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He directed Turk 182 too... That's a popular one in Latin America... -- dalegrett 04:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Please do not add the POV tag to articles without adding a comment explaining why you feel this way. Sirkumsize 04:49, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
"If not for our open borders and lack of defending our homeland Bob Clark would still be alive today. He is only the latest American citizen to be killed by the scourge of illegal aliens that flood across our borders." at the end of this article doesn't belong for such obvious reasons they don't even need to be mentioned.
Death reports assert Mr. Clark died at the age of 67. This article claims he was 65. Is there a source for the birthdate we're using? --Do Not Talk About Feitclub ( contributions) 23:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
IMDB is basically a delayed Wiki, random people send them stuff and they add it to their database eventually. Stuff there is probably less reliable than stuff on Wikipedia actually, at least in terms of taking it as gospel truth. I'd trust a police report more than IMDB, basically. I think the footnote does an okay job of clearing this up for now. -- W.marsh 13:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Many sources agree he attended the U of Miami. Some other sources say he was at Hillsdale College and Catawba College, but these seem less credible. Neither is listed in his Canadian Film Encyclopedia bio. I'm leaving them out for now; they don't seem to fit chronologically. -- Dhartung | Talk 10:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
A number of editors have been adding unsourced and potentially libelous claims about the driver of the other vehicle in the crash that killed Clark. The most common claim is that the driver is an illegal immigrant, but there was at least one edit that said the vehicle was stolen. Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons before making such edits. Reliable sources state that the driver was under the influence of alcohol and driving without a license. I have found nothing about his immigration status, nor have I found evidence that the car was stolen. The driver is a living person, and thus is protected by WP:BLP. szyslak ( t, c) 20:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
This is insane. Of course it's relevant. It's probably the entire reason you heard of this story in the first place and why this news story still has legs. It touches on one major and one minor theme in our culture - drunk driving and illlegal immigration. The fact that a director who made a film beloved by millions of Americans was alllegedly killed by an individual who entered and was living in this country illegally is emininently pertinent and appropriate and worthy of inclusion. Too many editors out there seem to want to white-wash this issue under some tortured definition of Wikipedia's rules that it brings into question their politically correct biases and lack of objectivity. Ridiculous. Mister Jinxy 10:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
This aspect is treated appropriately (neither neglected nor given undue weight) in the article now. Some editors (usually anonymous) apparently feel it must be repeated and said several ways, but such edits can be reverted. — Athænara ✉ 20:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Nobody (i.e. ME) is trying to make a political issue of this. However, the fact that the driver was illegally in the U.S. is an aspect of this sad story that is deserving of inclusion. I am pleased with the changes Athænara has made. Too many of the editors frequenting this article have attempted to blot out these facts, for whatever their reasons.
P.S. Last time I checked, Asians, gays, and Scientologists were legally allowed to be in this country. Mexicans? Not without a visa. Mister Jinxy 21:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I would agree that this is an appropriate, completely non-inflammatory summary of the driver's criminal charges, given that the secondary sources are clear on his illegal immigrant status. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub ( contributions) 00:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
This article states that his earliest success is with Porky's and Porky's 2 wasn't Black Christmas a success? Aaron Bowen 00:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Several reviewers (and IMDB.com) refer to Deathdream as Bob Clark's first feature film. This article says that Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things came first. Which is correct? Incidentally the release dates given in the Filmography section of this article are not consistent with the dates mentioned in the earlier sections (1972/73/74). Muzilon ( talk) 15:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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He directed Turk 182 too... That's a popular one in Latin America... -- dalegrett 04:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Please do not add the POV tag to articles without adding a comment explaining why you feel this way. Sirkumsize 04:49, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
"If not for our open borders and lack of defending our homeland Bob Clark would still be alive today. He is only the latest American citizen to be killed by the scourge of illegal aliens that flood across our borders." at the end of this article doesn't belong for such obvious reasons they don't even need to be mentioned.
Death reports assert Mr. Clark died at the age of 67. This article claims he was 65. Is there a source for the birthdate we're using? --Do Not Talk About Feitclub ( contributions) 23:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
IMDB is basically a delayed Wiki, random people send them stuff and they add it to their database eventually. Stuff there is probably less reliable than stuff on Wikipedia actually, at least in terms of taking it as gospel truth. I'd trust a police report more than IMDB, basically. I think the footnote does an okay job of clearing this up for now. -- W.marsh 13:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Many sources agree he attended the U of Miami. Some other sources say he was at Hillsdale College and Catawba College, but these seem less credible. Neither is listed in his Canadian Film Encyclopedia bio. I'm leaving them out for now; they don't seem to fit chronologically. -- Dhartung | Talk 10:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
A number of editors have been adding unsourced and potentially libelous claims about the driver of the other vehicle in the crash that killed Clark. The most common claim is that the driver is an illegal immigrant, but there was at least one edit that said the vehicle was stolen. Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons before making such edits. Reliable sources state that the driver was under the influence of alcohol and driving without a license. I have found nothing about his immigration status, nor have I found evidence that the car was stolen. The driver is a living person, and thus is protected by WP:BLP. szyslak ( t, c) 20:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
This is insane. Of course it's relevant. It's probably the entire reason you heard of this story in the first place and why this news story still has legs. It touches on one major and one minor theme in our culture - drunk driving and illlegal immigration. The fact that a director who made a film beloved by millions of Americans was alllegedly killed by an individual who entered and was living in this country illegally is emininently pertinent and appropriate and worthy of inclusion. Too many editors out there seem to want to white-wash this issue under some tortured definition of Wikipedia's rules that it brings into question their politically correct biases and lack of objectivity. Ridiculous. Mister Jinxy 10:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
This aspect is treated appropriately (neither neglected nor given undue weight) in the article now. Some editors (usually anonymous) apparently feel it must be repeated and said several ways, but such edits can be reverted. — Athænara ✉ 20:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Nobody (i.e. ME) is trying to make a political issue of this. However, the fact that the driver was illegally in the U.S. is an aspect of this sad story that is deserving of inclusion. I am pleased with the changes Athænara has made. Too many of the editors frequenting this article have attempted to blot out these facts, for whatever their reasons.
P.S. Last time I checked, Asians, gays, and Scientologists were legally allowed to be in this country. Mexicans? Not without a visa. Mister Jinxy 21:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I would agree that this is an appropriate, completely non-inflammatory summary of the driver's criminal charges, given that the secondary sources are clear on his illegal immigrant status. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub ( contributions) 00:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
This article states that his earliest success is with Porky's and Porky's 2 wasn't Black Christmas a success? Aaron Bowen 00:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Several reviewers (and IMDB.com) refer to Deathdream as Bob Clark's first feature film. This article says that Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things came first. Which is correct? Incidentally the release dates given in the Filmography section of this article are not consistent with the dates mentioned in the earlier sections (1972/73/74). Muzilon ( talk) 15:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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