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Nothing about the class action? The latter part of the page reads like an advertisement of Blockbuster services -- especially the comparisons to Netflix. Also, information regarding Blockbusters previous legal settlements and criticism has been removed.
Spluurfg 14:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Also: Why removal of the rewards programs information? Now that seems biased. Netflix's article has information on it's services, blockbuster total access, and rewards programs, are services. Do not edit the article in favor of netflix! Neuro√ Logic 13:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The article says Neflix has 70,000 titles in it's selection compared to Blockbusters 40,000 titles. Blockbuster's website now reports a selection of of more then 75,000 titles and Netflix now reports more then 80,000 titles. Just thought I would add the article should be updated.
~Trumania —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.153.91.229 ( talk) 20:23, August 21, 2007 (UTC)
I personly believe that there should a section or article that reveals all of the games at block buster and since some of the workers are a member of this site and Michael mad if you are reading this I am sorry can you ever forgive me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.28.194.189 ( talk) 02:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Such a list is impractical beyond reason. Not all stores stock the same thing, and you'd essentially be trying to create a list of every popular movie and game ever made on major formats. It's an absurd notion and would add no value to the article. If you want to know if your local Blockbuster has a particular movie or game, call them. 129.171.233.77 ( talk) 21:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Anyone remember anything about Blockbuster's Block Party stores that they opened? I don't think anyone on here has mentioned them and I don't see a separate article about them. So as soon as I can get enough information about it I will be updating this article shortly. I heard about Block Party from a co-worker of mine so I figured it was already posted on here. Venomscarnage ( talk) 02:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know what that is? I google it and get hundreds of pages but they all list slight variations of this article. Does anyone have the actual link that describes what Blockbuster incident #070819-005769 was? They refuse to comment what you call customer care and PR. Lostinlodos ( talk) 19:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
"Representing themselves as a family-friendly chain, Blockbuster has never rented or sold pornographic titles (except in the New Zealand market)" - I live in Melbourne, Australia and I have to say the Blockbuster nearest to me stocks porn. LamontCranston 18:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Whoever gave the quote, you got a reference? —Preceding
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I work and have worked for over 5 years in Blockbuster Denmark - even in various shops, and we have been renting pornographic titles a few years ago and we still sell them in most (if not all) danish Blockbuster shops. —Preceding
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On the advice of Luna Santin, I am bringing this issue to the talk page. Over the past week or two an edit war has been simmering between about a half-dozen IP addresses and accounts. In general the anonymous editors seem to oppose the inclusion of Blockbuster's alleged practice of "throttling", repeatedly replacing the section with a single quote from Blockbuster's public relations department. [1], [2], [3], [4]. I attempted to resolve the dispute by rewriting the section in question in a neutral manner, including both Blockbuster's response and the company's official terms of service. I also removed the accusations that Blockbuster was engaged in editing its own Wikipedia article, as I could not verify that any of these IP addresses actually belong to Blockbuster. However, these edits were reverted as well. [5], [6]. I do not wish to edit war over this topic, but the section as it currently stands, is completely inappropriate for Wikipedia. Feezo (Talk) 14:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Since the Munarriz article begins by acknowledging that Netflix practices throttling — and ends by stating his full disclosure policy, I don't think it's fair to try to undermine his credibility. As he does not conceal this potential conflict of interest, I think the reference is valid. If it is not, then we shouldn't include it at all. Feezo (Talk) 00:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
A great number of single use IP addresses have been making similar edits to this article over the last few weeks. These edits are almost always applications of the undo function, always with the default edit summary. None of these addresses have responded to any comments either on this talk page, their own talk pages, or in other edit summaries. The edits are not exactly vandalism, but show a definite pattern of whitewashing complaints about Blockbuster and qualifying criticism about it. One address even attempted to speak for the company, although I have been unable to verify that the address belongs to Blockbuster. I want to make it clear that I do not have a vendetta against Blockbuster; I myself removed accusations that the company was editing its own Wikipedia article, because I was unable to find a reliable source that reported this. Feezo (Talk) 19:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
How can the Blockbuster article have no mention of Wayne Huizenga, clearly the most notable and important person connected with the history of the company? Was his name edited out at some point? Huizenga bought the company in 1987 and took it public in 1989, and grew it from a small chain to the national market leader. I have not gone through the edit history carefully, but this just bizarre and counterfactual. -- MCB ( talk) 21:52, 28 March 2008 (UTC) And, what about JOHN MELK???? HE IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT TO HUIZENGA!!!
WHO THE HECK IS THIS JOE GUY? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 500southpalm ( talk • contribs) 18:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
"Blockbuster Inc. (NYSE: BBI) is the largest chain of DVD and video game rental stores in the world.[citation needed]"
Oh, really? Can we have a citation, and maybe a lock, it seems like this article has gone through a lot of bollock edits. CylonSix ( talk) 14:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Is it me or has the amount of blockbuster stores decreased in the UK I haven't seen anything of it for a few years now. RoflOhLol ( talk) 22:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
There is no mention of the Blockbuster, Inc. music chain from (I believe) the early 90's until it was sold to Wherehouse Entertainment in late 1998 to early 1999. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.66.245 ( talk) 17:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
There's no mention of the "No more late fees!" debacle, which I recall being something of an upset to a great many people. As well there's nothing about the current state of affairs over late fees with blockbuster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.210.217.203 ( talk) 21:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I've added information about both the 2005 late fee issue and the 2002 settlement to the article, including a number of news references. Avruch T 16:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
As an employee, let me just suggest a wording change. In the article, there is a reference to "extended viewing fees" and "additional daily rentals". We do not use the former term any longer (for legal reasons, related to the lawsuit), and simply refer to any charges on the account for rentals kept beyond the due date "additional daily rentals" (ADRs). The EVF term is outdated and the wording should be changed accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.164.160.153 ( talk) 23:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't know how this thing works but I just wanted to point out that reference 88 is used in regards to the 2005 issue with regards to the unclearness of the no late fees policy, but links to an article written in 2001 about a separate lawsuit that was filed against blockbuster in 2001. This whole section needs to be gone through as I believe there is a fair bit of confusion of facts. — Preceding
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-is wiki just free advertising for big companieswith rules that stop unhappy customers beign heard? Don't talk to me about the Neutral POV! It is nonsense. Crucible1999 ( talk) 22:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I've been looking over the edits done to this page, and it seems pretty biased, in support of the "Netflix vs. Blockbuster War" and "Netflix is winning!"...Now this is pretty silly, Netflix has sections discussing it's services provided, and the section discussing Blockbuster Rewards program and total access pass system is removed, because it sounds like an advertisement, seriously? I'm all for a criticism section, but this is getting out of hand, as an employee for blockbuster, I've got a WP:COI issue, so I will not edit the article about this subject, however: I sincerely believe in comparison of the articles, Netflix is in much better quality, simply because this article is subject to Point of View related edits in favor of Netflix. Neuro√ Logic 13:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The Blockbuster I go to has a back room with pornographic movies. 68.82.44.212 ( talk) 04:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
good for you, its a franchise store, not corporate. 98.169.85.28 ( talk) 07:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
WhisperToMe ( talk) 13:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I think, online, Blockbuster lets a member now rent videogames, download rentals, can play on certain devices. Maybe I misread the articles or something and didn't see these things acknowledged. 24.48.160.108 ( talk) 14:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/23/the-rise-and-fall-of-blockbuster.html
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
According to this, Blockbuster had a regional office in Houston:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 16:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I didn't feel this needed a new category, and is probably easily fixed: Which David Cook is the founder? Link is a disambiguation. TheoThoughts ( talk) 01:07, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
The name of this article violates WP:MOSNAME by including the "Inc." designation (which, by the way, is the wrong designation since Blockbuster presently does business as an LLC). I propose moving the article to Blockbuster (video rental store). Thoughts? WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 19:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Have I missed something, or is there a reason there isn't any information on Blockbuster Express on wikipedia? -- danhash ( talk) 16:21, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
All remaining Blockbuster stores in Canada are being shut down now, as of August 31st, 2011. http://www.am980.ca/channels/news/local/Story.aspx?ID=1531108 Article should be amended to note this. 99.247.11.10 ( talk) 23:55, 31 August 2011 (UTC) Brian from Canada
Area served seems very misleading. It doesn't serve the entire area of each place it lists, for example: Blockbuster no longer serves Canada yet the article lists the area served as "North America." Wouldn't it be more accurate to lists the countries in which it operates instead? I've brought this question up before but it's gone unanswered for several months. Celynn ( talk) 15:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Most of this article is rendered in barely-English. Why is it so poorly written? I'd try to rewrite it, but if I did only 1/10 of it would remain. Huw Powell ( talk) 09:56, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
This article completely glosses over what actually happened in the UK when Ritz video was acquired. Most of the UK indeed got the Blockbuster name change, but not on the South Coast. The in the Portsmouth Area (possibly further afield) all Ritz stayed Ritz for a very long time (3+ years) because there was already a UK video rental business operating in that area called "Blockbusters" (plural). I remember being confused by this as a kid, and I remember belonging to one of the local variety too, as well as a Ritz. There was a legal case where US backed Blockbuster sued UK Blockbusters for the name, and I believe the US won in court and the Blockbusters were forced to rebrand (as I seem to recall "Movies Movies Movies", but I might be wrong.)
Unfortunately, with all the legal stuff going on with the UK administration and the fact that people repeatedly miss name "Blockbuster" as "Blockbusters" it's really hard to find sources. Memsom ( talk) 09:14, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello. I saw that it said Blockbuster was defunct although it isnt,so I removed that for now. Thanks. P.S I cant sign my name bc im on PS3 and it wont let me sign my name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.214.219 ( talk) 21:11, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Blockbuster Entertainment Award redirects here, but there is no mention of it in the article... Freikorp ( talk) 05:59, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
I think we need some discussion on the lede here -- should it be "is" or "was"? Since the announcement to close all remaining company-owned stores and wind down its Netflix-like internet/mail rental system, the only "service" this entity will provide will be streaming video under the "Blockbuster" imprint, a business hard to distinguish from what the Dish Network does already under other names. Blockbuster, as what it was for 90% of its existence-- a retail outlet or an entity which "rents" videos -- is clearly very soon going to be in the past -- shouldn't we say so? The fact that the Dish Network is still going to brand some of its products with the Blockbuster name and logo doesn't seem to me to constitute continued existence. Clevelander96 ( talk) 20:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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Please remove Area Served Canada Blockbuster exited Canada in 2011. 76.64.107.233 ( talk) 02:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
I would argue that Cook has no apparent notability beyond Blockbuster, and almost all the content in this new article would be covered in the parent, as it is all about the company. Happy to be overruled if not. S.G.(GH) ping! 20:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
i was not really trying to merge with the two please let me edit it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penalphil123 ( talk • contribs) 20:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Today, what's left of Blockbuster changed their logo and site. Online services are now at "blockbusternow.com", with a new grey "Blockbuster on demand" logo. [7]. The old "blockbuster.com" site has been stripped down to matters concerning the liquidation of the brick-and-mortar business: "Beginning on February 3, 2014, we expect to start the process of charging former subscribers for non-returned product..." [8] This is getting closer to a "was" rather than an "is". -- John Nagle ( talk) 01:39, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
This is The End was the last video rented at A Blockbuster and not Blockbuster entirely; also, cited source redirects to a dead link — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.5.223 ( talk) 20:09, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Why is the Great Recession article template at the bottom? There is no reference in the article connecting to it, and the collapse of Blockbuster is attributed to competition and changing customer needs, not the recession. Unless there's a solid reason for keeping it, I might be bold and just delete it, but I'll wait in case it was placed there as part of an edit in progress. 68.146.70.124 ( talk) 15:40, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Undid a batch of edits by 45.46.134.255 ( talk · contribs). No edit comments, no cites, somewhat confused. Not blatant vandalism, but not meaningful improvement, either. Also undid some blatant vandalism by another anon. -- John Nagle ( talk) 20:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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According to this, there are 38-39 locations still open. I don't know how up-to-date that is. But I seen an episode of the YouTube series "Abandoned" which featured Blockbuster and it said 14 are still open. Is there a up-to-date franchise list somewhere to see where the remaining locations are? Mr. C.C. Hey yo! I didn't do it! 18:44, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
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my reveted edit about The Blockbuster Block Party was revent beacuse of copyright issue (i did not mean for it to look the way it did) is there a way we could put in that section without effect the copyright iusse? Fanoflionking
i created a section in my notes page do you or someone mind help rewirte it in an approte way Fanoflionking
There is only 1 left according to this reference. https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/theres-only-one-blockbuster-left-on-the-planet/ar-BBUsytk?OCID=ansmsnnews11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dw122339 ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
The last sentence of the third paragraph in the Blockbuster LLC article reads:
Eventually just two stores remained open by 2019: one in Bend, Oregon, United States, and another in Morley, Western Australia, which is set to close at the end of March 2019.
If United States has been added to the lead section to be read as Bend, Oregon, United States (where a Blockbuster store is the only one currently in the United States), why do we not include Australia in the lead section? Both terms in italic are countries. Without adding Australia to the lead section, not everybody knows what Western Australia is (without linking it in the article or going to the Morley, Western Australia article). Western Australia is one of the six states of Australia, and we should perceive the meaning of that term. Morley, on the other hand, is a suburb of Perth, Western Australia; however, the Morley article does not mention the name of Australia in it. To be precise where the location of the Morley Blockbuster store (the last video retail store of Blockbuster in Australia) is, it makes sense to include Morley, Western Australia, Australia in the article. -- AnhDucYang ( talk) 22:57, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I recently made an edit to Blockbuster LLC which added The Blockbuster Fan Page as an external link, but it was removed on the basis of WP:SPAM and WP:NOTLINK. I believe that it should be there and that these policies don't disallow it's inclusion, looking at WP:RS, as well as WP:ADV, The Blockbuster Fan Page seems to match the description of a reliable source. Their count of open franchise-owned Blockbuster stores is supported by local news articles and they seem to be the most-up-to-date source on that count. It doesn't look like most fan pages, so that's why I take to the talk page to ask why it's a contested addition. - KevinTheGuy ( talk) 22:19, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
...because of the preconceived notion that all fan pages are unreliable, period"
You should read WP:EL, specifically WP:ELNO (points 1 and 11) and WP:ADV. The external link fails several qualifications, and there is also no added benefit to the article with its inclusion. The official website, which exists as both an incline citation and an external link, supports the estimated 10 stores remaining. Perhaps you haven't visited in a while, but it has been updated. And not that this part really matters, but 2 of the 3 sources you linked above say nothing about 10 stores remaining. In fact, one of them says 12. This is all the more reason not to worry so much about the exact number. The handful of sources we can find out there are emphasizing that some stores still exist and explore them because there is still some interest in seeing what they look like (when you haven't seen one in years). The number isn't all that important to the big picture here.
By the way, I find it peculiar that you have exactly one article edit on Wikipedia, which was an attempt to add the disputed link. You made a comment at User talk:Justlettersandnumbers#Edit on Blockbuster LLC when that editor reverted you, and several months later decided to start a discussion about the link on this talk page. I'm not sure if you're affiliated with Patrick Boots CEC, but please be aware of the policies surrounding sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry if you weren't already. Both of you have gone weeks at a time without editing, and yet here you both are in the same discussion barely days apart championing the same cause. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 04:20, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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In my opinion it need not be added. G ( talk) 05:03, 15 November 2017 (UTC) |
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Hello, I am responding to this archive talk in response to accusations by @ GoneIn60: that my edits are unconstructive and disruptive. The edit mainly in question regards the third paragraph of the lead of Blockbuster LLC. The former edit read "...2018. As of June 2020, the only remaining physical Blockbuster (a privately owned franchise) store in the entire world remains open in Bend, Oregon..." which is factually inaccurate. The edit that I made is constructive since it reverted errata seen in 961808669, 954580259, 945947701, 934441685, 930767896, 926243566, 916484176, 910135521, debatably 909683511, and 909191975. It also isn't disruptive since it provides the source that information was originally reported by and supported within the article. Whether or not additional sources report on the same information it is customary to include the first source. See List of African-American fraternities, Hypophysitis, Dance Dance Revelation, Llaqtapata, and others. The Blockbuster Fan Page was the first source to publish the status of Blockbuster in Bend, Oregon following the announcement and official closure of Blockbuster in Morely, Western Australia. KevinTheGuy ( talk) 20:51, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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Nothing about the class action? The latter part of the page reads like an advertisement of Blockbuster services -- especially the comparisons to Netflix. Also, information regarding Blockbusters previous legal settlements and criticism has been removed.
Spluurfg 14:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Also: Why removal of the rewards programs information? Now that seems biased. Netflix's article has information on it's services, blockbuster total access, and rewards programs, are services. Do not edit the article in favor of netflix! Neuro√ Logic 13:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The article says Neflix has 70,000 titles in it's selection compared to Blockbusters 40,000 titles. Blockbuster's website now reports a selection of of more then 75,000 titles and Netflix now reports more then 80,000 titles. Just thought I would add the article should be updated.
~Trumania —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.153.91.229 ( talk) 20:23, August 21, 2007 (UTC)
I personly believe that there should a section or article that reveals all of the games at block buster and since some of the workers are a member of this site and Michael mad if you are reading this I am sorry can you ever forgive me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.28.194.189 ( talk) 02:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Such a list is impractical beyond reason. Not all stores stock the same thing, and you'd essentially be trying to create a list of every popular movie and game ever made on major formats. It's an absurd notion and would add no value to the article. If you want to know if your local Blockbuster has a particular movie or game, call them. 129.171.233.77 ( talk) 21:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Anyone remember anything about Blockbuster's Block Party stores that they opened? I don't think anyone on here has mentioned them and I don't see a separate article about them. So as soon as I can get enough information about it I will be updating this article shortly. I heard about Block Party from a co-worker of mine so I figured it was already posted on here. Venomscarnage ( talk) 02:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know what that is? I google it and get hundreds of pages but they all list slight variations of this article. Does anyone have the actual link that describes what Blockbuster incident #070819-005769 was? They refuse to comment what you call customer care and PR. Lostinlodos ( talk) 19:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
"Representing themselves as a family-friendly chain, Blockbuster has never rented or sold pornographic titles (except in the New Zealand market)" - I live in Melbourne, Australia and I have to say the Blockbuster nearest to me stocks porn. LamontCranston 18:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Whoever gave the quote, you got a reference? —Preceding
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I work and have worked for over 5 years in Blockbuster Denmark - even in various shops, and we have been renting pornographic titles a few years ago and we still sell them in most (if not all) danish Blockbuster shops. —Preceding
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On the advice of Luna Santin, I am bringing this issue to the talk page. Over the past week or two an edit war has been simmering between about a half-dozen IP addresses and accounts. In general the anonymous editors seem to oppose the inclusion of Blockbuster's alleged practice of "throttling", repeatedly replacing the section with a single quote from Blockbuster's public relations department. [1], [2], [3], [4]. I attempted to resolve the dispute by rewriting the section in question in a neutral manner, including both Blockbuster's response and the company's official terms of service. I also removed the accusations that Blockbuster was engaged in editing its own Wikipedia article, as I could not verify that any of these IP addresses actually belong to Blockbuster. However, these edits were reverted as well. [5], [6]. I do not wish to edit war over this topic, but the section as it currently stands, is completely inappropriate for Wikipedia. Feezo (Talk) 14:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Since the Munarriz article begins by acknowledging that Netflix practices throttling — and ends by stating his full disclosure policy, I don't think it's fair to try to undermine his credibility. As he does not conceal this potential conflict of interest, I think the reference is valid. If it is not, then we shouldn't include it at all. Feezo (Talk) 00:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
A great number of single use IP addresses have been making similar edits to this article over the last few weeks. These edits are almost always applications of the undo function, always with the default edit summary. None of these addresses have responded to any comments either on this talk page, their own talk pages, or in other edit summaries. The edits are not exactly vandalism, but show a definite pattern of whitewashing complaints about Blockbuster and qualifying criticism about it. One address even attempted to speak for the company, although I have been unable to verify that the address belongs to Blockbuster. I want to make it clear that I do not have a vendetta against Blockbuster; I myself removed accusations that the company was editing its own Wikipedia article, because I was unable to find a reliable source that reported this. Feezo (Talk) 19:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
How can the Blockbuster article have no mention of Wayne Huizenga, clearly the most notable and important person connected with the history of the company? Was his name edited out at some point? Huizenga bought the company in 1987 and took it public in 1989, and grew it from a small chain to the national market leader. I have not gone through the edit history carefully, but this just bizarre and counterfactual. -- MCB ( talk) 21:52, 28 March 2008 (UTC) And, what about JOHN MELK???? HE IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT TO HUIZENGA!!!
WHO THE HECK IS THIS JOE GUY? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 500southpalm ( talk • contribs) 18:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
"Blockbuster Inc. (NYSE: BBI) is the largest chain of DVD and video game rental stores in the world.[citation needed]"
Oh, really? Can we have a citation, and maybe a lock, it seems like this article has gone through a lot of bollock edits. CylonSix ( talk) 14:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Is it me or has the amount of blockbuster stores decreased in the UK I haven't seen anything of it for a few years now. RoflOhLol ( talk) 22:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
There is no mention of the Blockbuster, Inc. music chain from (I believe) the early 90's until it was sold to Wherehouse Entertainment in late 1998 to early 1999. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.66.245 ( talk) 17:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
There's no mention of the "No more late fees!" debacle, which I recall being something of an upset to a great many people. As well there's nothing about the current state of affairs over late fees with blockbuster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.210.217.203 ( talk) 21:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I've added information about both the 2005 late fee issue and the 2002 settlement to the article, including a number of news references. Avruch T 16:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
As an employee, let me just suggest a wording change. In the article, there is a reference to "extended viewing fees" and "additional daily rentals". We do not use the former term any longer (for legal reasons, related to the lawsuit), and simply refer to any charges on the account for rentals kept beyond the due date "additional daily rentals" (ADRs). The EVF term is outdated and the wording should be changed accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.164.160.153 ( talk) 23:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't know how this thing works but I just wanted to point out that reference 88 is used in regards to the 2005 issue with regards to the unclearness of the no late fees policy, but links to an article written in 2001 about a separate lawsuit that was filed against blockbuster in 2001. This whole section needs to be gone through as I believe there is a fair bit of confusion of facts. — Preceding
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-is wiki just free advertising for big companieswith rules that stop unhappy customers beign heard? Don't talk to me about the Neutral POV! It is nonsense. Crucible1999 ( talk) 22:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I've been looking over the edits done to this page, and it seems pretty biased, in support of the "Netflix vs. Blockbuster War" and "Netflix is winning!"...Now this is pretty silly, Netflix has sections discussing it's services provided, and the section discussing Blockbuster Rewards program and total access pass system is removed, because it sounds like an advertisement, seriously? I'm all for a criticism section, but this is getting out of hand, as an employee for blockbuster, I've got a WP:COI issue, so I will not edit the article about this subject, however: I sincerely believe in comparison of the articles, Netflix is in much better quality, simply because this article is subject to Point of View related edits in favor of Netflix. Neuro√ Logic 13:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The Blockbuster I go to has a back room with pornographic movies. 68.82.44.212 ( talk) 04:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
good for you, its a franchise store, not corporate. 98.169.85.28 ( talk) 07:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
WhisperToMe ( talk) 13:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I think, online, Blockbuster lets a member now rent videogames, download rentals, can play on certain devices. Maybe I misread the articles or something and didn't see these things acknowledged. 24.48.160.108 ( talk) 14:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/23/the-rise-and-fall-of-blockbuster.html
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
According to this, Blockbuster had a regional office in Houston:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 16:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I didn't feel this needed a new category, and is probably easily fixed: Which David Cook is the founder? Link is a disambiguation. TheoThoughts ( talk) 01:07, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
The name of this article violates WP:MOSNAME by including the "Inc." designation (which, by the way, is the wrong designation since Blockbuster presently does business as an LLC). I propose moving the article to Blockbuster (video rental store). Thoughts? WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 19:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Have I missed something, or is there a reason there isn't any information on Blockbuster Express on wikipedia? -- danhash ( talk) 16:21, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
All remaining Blockbuster stores in Canada are being shut down now, as of August 31st, 2011. http://www.am980.ca/channels/news/local/Story.aspx?ID=1531108 Article should be amended to note this. 99.247.11.10 ( talk) 23:55, 31 August 2011 (UTC) Brian from Canada
Area served seems very misleading. It doesn't serve the entire area of each place it lists, for example: Blockbuster no longer serves Canada yet the article lists the area served as "North America." Wouldn't it be more accurate to lists the countries in which it operates instead? I've brought this question up before but it's gone unanswered for several months. Celynn ( talk) 15:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Most of this article is rendered in barely-English. Why is it so poorly written? I'd try to rewrite it, but if I did only 1/10 of it would remain. Huw Powell ( talk) 09:56, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
This article completely glosses over what actually happened in the UK when Ritz video was acquired. Most of the UK indeed got the Blockbuster name change, but not on the South Coast. The in the Portsmouth Area (possibly further afield) all Ritz stayed Ritz for a very long time (3+ years) because there was already a UK video rental business operating in that area called "Blockbusters" (plural). I remember being confused by this as a kid, and I remember belonging to one of the local variety too, as well as a Ritz. There was a legal case where US backed Blockbuster sued UK Blockbusters for the name, and I believe the US won in court and the Blockbusters were forced to rebrand (as I seem to recall "Movies Movies Movies", but I might be wrong.)
Unfortunately, with all the legal stuff going on with the UK administration and the fact that people repeatedly miss name "Blockbuster" as "Blockbusters" it's really hard to find sources. Memsom ( talk) 09:14, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello. I saw that it said Blockbuster was defunct although it isnt,so I removed that for now. Thanks. P.S I cant sign my name bc im on PS3 and it wont let me sign my name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.214.219 ( talk) 21:11, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Blockbuster Entertainment Award redirects here, but there is no mention of it in the article... Freikorp ( talk) 05:59, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
I think we need some discussion on the lede here -- should it be "is" or "was"? Since the announcement to close all remaining company-owned stores and wind down its Netflix-like internet/mail rental system, the only "service" this entity will provide will be streaming video under the "Blockbuster" imprint, a business hard to distinguish from what the Dish Network does already under other names. Blockbuster, as what it was for 90% of its existence-- a retail outlet or an entity which "rents" videos -- is clearly very soon going to be in the past -- shouldn't we say so? The fact that the Dish Network is still going to brand some of its products with the Blockbuster name and logo doesn't seem to me to constitute continued existence. Clevelander96 ( talk) 20:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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Please remove Area Served Canada Blockbuster exited Canada in 2011. 76.64.107.233 ( talk) 02:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
I would argue that Cook has no apparent notability beyond Blockbuster, and almost all the content in this new article would be covered in the parent, as it is all about the company. Happy to be overruled if not. S.G.(GH) ping! 20:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
i was not really trying to merge with the two please let me edit it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penalphil123 ( talk • contribs) 20:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Today, what's left of Blockbuster changed their logo and site. Online services are now at "blockbusternow.com", with a new grey "Blockbuster on demand" logo. [7]. The old "blockbuster.com" site has been stripped down to matters concerning the liquidation of the brick-and-mortar business: "Beginning on February 3, 2014, we expect to start the process of charging former subscribers for non-returned product..." [8] This is getting closer to a "was" rather than an "is". -- John Nagle ( talk) 01:39, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
This is The End was the last video rented at A Blockbuster and not Blockbuster entirely; also, cited source redirects to a dead link — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.5.223 ( talk) 20:09, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Why is the Great Recession article template at the bottom? There is no reference in the article connecting to it, and the collapse of Blockbuster is attributed to competition and changing customer needs, not the recession. Unless there's a solid reason for keeping it, I might be bold and just delete it, but I'll wait in case it was placed there as part of an edit in progress. 68.146.70.124 ( talk) 15:40, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Undid a batch of edits by 45.46.134.255 ( talk · contribs). No edit comments, no cites, somewhat confused. Not blatant vandalism, but not meaningful improvement, either. Also undid some blatant vandalism by another anon. -- John Nagle ( talk) 20:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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According to this, there are 38-39 locations still open. I don't know how up-to-date that is. But I seen an episode of the YouTube series "Abandoned" which featured Blockbuster and it said 14 are still open. Is there a up-to-date franchise list somewhere to see where the remaining locations are? Mr. C.C. Hey yo! I didn't do it! 18:44, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
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my reveted edit about The Blockbuster Block Party was revent beacuse of copyright issue (i did not mean for it to look the way it did) is there a way we could put in that section without effect the copyright iusse? Fanoflionking
i created a section in my notes page do you or someone mind help rewirte it in an approte way Fanoflionking
There is only 1 left according to this reference. https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/theres-only-one-blockbuster-left-on-the-planet/ar-BBUsytk?OCID=ansmsnnews11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dw122339 ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
The last sentence of the third paragraph in the Blockbuster LLC article reads:
Eventually just two stores remained open by 2019: one in Bend, Oregon, United States, and another in Morley, Western Australia, which is set to close at the end of March 2019.
If United States has been added to the lead section to be read as Bend, Oregon, United States (where a Blockbuster store is the only one currently in the United States), why do we not include Australia in the lead section? Both terms in italic are countries. Without adding Australia to the lead section, not everybody knows what Western Australia is (without linking it in the article or going to the Morley, Western Australia article). Western Australia is one of the six states of Australia, and we should perceive the meaning of that term. Morley, on the other hand, is a suburb of Perth, Western Australia; however, the Morley article does not mention the name of Australia in it. To be precise where the location of the Morley Blockbuster store (the last video retail store of Blockbuster in Australia) is, it makes sense to include Morley, Western Australia, Australia in the article. -- AnhDucYang ( talk) 22:57, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I recently made an edit to Blockbuster LLC which added The Blockbuster Fan Page as an external link, but it was removed on the basis of WP:SPAM and WP:NOTLINK. I believe that it should be there and that these policies don't disallow it's inclusion, looking at WP:RS, as well as WP:ADV, The Blockbuster Fan Page seems to match the description of a reliable source. Their count of open franchise-owned Blockbuster stores is supported by local news articles and they seem to be the most-up-to-date source on that count. It doesn't look like most fan pages, so that's why I take to the talk page to ask why it's a contested addition. - KevinTheGuy ( talk) 22:19, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
...because of the preconceived notion that all fan pages are unreliable, period"
You should read WP:EL, specifically WP:ELNO (points 1 and 11) and WP:ADV. The external link fails several qualifications, and there is also no added benefit to the article with its inclusion. The official website, which exists as both an incline citation and an external link, supports the estimated 10 stores remaining. Perhaps you haven't visited in a while, but it has been updated. And not that this part really matters, but 2 of the 3 sources you linked above say nothing about 10 stores remaining. In fact, one of them says 12. This is all the more reason not to worry so much about the exact number. The handful of sources we can find out there are emphasizing that some stores still exist and explore them because there is still some interest in seeing what they look like (when you haven't seen one in years). The number isn't all that important to the big picture here.
By the way, I find it peculiar that you have exactly one article edit on Wikipedia, which was an attempt to add the disputed link. You made a comment at User talk:Justlettersandnumbers#Edit on Blockbuster LLC when that editor reverted you, and several months later decided to start a discussion about the link on this talk page. I'm not sure if you're affiliated with Patrick Boots CEC, but please be aware of the policies surrounding sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry if you weren't already. Both of you have gone weeks at a time without editing, and yet here you both are in the same discussion barely days apart championing the same cause. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 04:20, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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In my opinion it need not be added. G ( talk) 05:03, 15 November 2017 (UTC) |
...you've prejudged The Blockbuster Fan Page as an unreliable source"
...in regards to being written by a recognized authority on that subject..."
Hello, I am responding to this archive talk in response to accusations by @ GoneIn60: that my edits are unconstructive and disruptive. The edit mainly in question regards the third paragraph of the lead of Blockbuster LLC. The former edit read "...2018. As of June 2020, the only remaining physical Blockbuster (a privately owned franchise) store in the entire world remains open in Bend, Oregon..." which is factually inaccurate. The edit that I made is constructive since it reverted errata seen in 961808669, 954580259, 945947701, 934441685, 930767896, 926243566, 916484176, 910135521, debatably 909683511, and 909191975. It also isn't disruptive since it provides the source that information was originally reported by and supported within the article. Whether or not additional sources report on the same information it is customary to include the first source. See List of African-American fraternities, Hypophysitis, Dance Dance Revelation, Llaqtapata, and others. The Blockbuster Fan Page was the first source to publish the status of Blockbuster in Bend, Oregon following the announcement and official closure of Blockbuster in Morely, Western Australia. KevinTheGuy ( talk) 20:51, 13 June 2020 (UTC)