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Tite Kubo was interviewed by the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-book28-2008aug28,0,7578031.story and talks about Bleach some. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 04:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Good find, good find.
Actually, there has been a mass influx of Bleach source info recently since Kubo's stateside visit. We should probably do a push to get this page back up to GA in the next week or two. I'm especially cheered to see that the article comments on the character designs a bit, since that's always been one of Bleach's best points, but missed in most early reviews since they were based on only the first few volumes. -- erachima talk 05:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
The first article is pretty good, but it does have a few errors: for instance, "zanpakuto" is misspelled, and the description of Ichigo's zanpakuto states that it is "inhabited" by a powerful spirit - when, in fact, Zangetsu *is* Ichigo's zanpakuto. Of course, these types of errors are to be expected and therefore somewhat forgivable. I didn't read the second one, but they should both definitely be useful as sources, errors or not. — Dino guy 1000 19:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I've put in a request for a B-class checklist assessment - it'd be easier to go from a B to a GA than it would be from a C. - Malkinann ( talk) 05:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
(Version reviewed) I have completed the B checklist per request, find my reasoning below. Good luck in getting the article back to GA status! I will be watching this page, please ask if you require further detail or a re-review. Regards, G.A.S 05:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Per the MOS we should label names according to the dubs and translated manga. Therefore we should refer to Shinigami in Bleach as "Soul Reapers" WhisperToMe ( talk) 20:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
A bit after the fact now, but what I meant by partially translated is that the series is further in Japan than Viz is. This probably won't cause any problems in the case of replacing shinigami, but if you were to, say, start renaming all the kido techniques from Japanese to English, it would get messy, since Viz names only exist for the ones that they've published. -- erachima talk 05:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't it just be used as Tite kubo intended it, not Viz? I know the whole debate about common usage but still, using Soul Reaper isn't correct according to the manga, which was decided to be this pages name instead of Bleach(anime). a subnote can always be left showing that both usages are correct if needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diablo11d ( talk • contribs) 17:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Shinigami is the much more prevalent usage. 2 million vs. 135,000. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) 02:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
We'd call a tanuki a tanuki no matter how vehemently a dubbing company called it a raccoon. On the same sort of logic, I'd support calling a shinigami a shinigami. Note that the term has its own English Wikipedia entry. The term is used across many different types of Japanese media and not using it would weaken these encyclopedic connections. – Gunslinger47 16:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
May someone please mention exactly which guidelines favor "Soul Reaper" over "Shinigami"? I happen to think that Shinigami is obviously a much better choice, among other reasons because it is very much a series-specific concept ("Bleach" Shinigami have barely any resemblance at all to Shinigami/Reapers of other works of fiction). Yes, Kubo translated it into "Soul Reaper", but I don't think that changes much; just because he used an approximate translation at one point it does not mean that the translation is better than the real thing. I have a hard time even guessing a reason to use "Soul Reaper" over "Shinigami". More so in a series that makes liberal use of intentional barbarisms such as "Hueco Mundo". Unneeded translations are just dead weight. Luis Dantas ( talk) 09:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Shinigami should be used as the mangaka intended, not Viz Media. Tite Kubo did use Soul Reaper in the artbook All Colour But The Black, aside from that there are no other references provided. One use of the term "Soul Reaper" is insufficient reasoning. The point that Viz Media uses "Soul Reaper" in Bleach, and "Shinigami" in Full Moon o Sagashite, could be due to the fact that it started releasing Bleach over 13 months prior to Full Moon o Sagashite. "Soul Reaper" as opposed to "Shinigami" might have seemed to be the better alternative at first, then in time preferring the latter of terms, Viz Media chose to keep "Shinigami" as it was intended in Full Moon o Sagashite. For that possibility, comparing the translation of the terms in two different mangas released in North America from the same company simply because it is their "choice" is irrelevant. From the reiterated guidelines above, i have highlighted from quotes: WP:MOS-AM#Article names and disambiguation - "Use official English titles for article names, and place the transliteration of the Japanese on the first line of the article, unless the native form is more commonly recognized by readers than the English form." WP:NAME - "The names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors, and for a general audience over specialists." - "Generally, article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." I also quote Luis Dantas for presenting a very good point. "I happen to think that Shinigami is obviously a much better choice, among other reasons because it is very much a series-specific concept ("Bleach" Shinigami have barely any resemblance at all to Shinigami/Reapers of other works of fiction)." -- ShadowCrew ( talk) 07:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Again, per the guidelines, I reiterate "article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize" and "the names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors." -- ShadowCrew ( talk) 08:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
The thing is, a whole lot of the WP information on Bleach relates to stuff that is after Volume 24, the latest Viz translation. If we hold to the premise that only the Viz translations are official or canonical, then shouldn't all information gleaning from fan scanlations or translations (which it all really has to be, unless we have a huge number of Japanese-English speaking contributors) be removed? Corbmobile ( talk) 06:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Did it ever occur to you that Soul Reaper, even though that Viz organization used the term without thought, is a VERY different concept and has a different meaning from shinigami to the point that i, as a fan of the tv adaption of the series, do not recognize it anymore and feel very unfamiliar with it? the name, the meaning, all the things that come with the original name of shinigami are lost when using that poorly translitered english term of 'soul reaper'. it is with horror that i noticed the degeneration of the original shinigami (bleach) article. shinigami is a proper name. you can compare it to similar appearances in other series. proper names are no subject to translation. no one would ever try to "translate" words like 'klingons' for example. this makes no sense. and just because the term used by the only official english adaption is soul reaper, it does not make it the most widely recognized and used term for english speaking fans. Watchingthewave ( talk) 21:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Three Bleach-related pages have been selected for inclusion in Wikipedia:0.7, an official test release of Wikipedia on DVD. These pages are Bleach (manga), Ichigo Kurosaki, and Rukia Kuchiki. I think it would be great if we could get all three of these pages to be GA standard when the release date rolls around October 20th, and will be working on them with this intent over the next week or two. Towards that end, I'm making a to-do list below. Feel free to add to it or work on the stuff listed. -- erachima talk 10:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Things to do for each page:
The original story concept was submitted to Weekly Shōnen Jump shortly after the cancellation of Tite Kubo's previous manga Zombie Powder, but was rejected. Akira Toriyama, the mangaka of Dragon Ball, saw the story and wrote a letter of encouragement to Kubo.
I have a strong feeling that the author of LA Times article took this infromation (which was considered a rumour) from TV.com or other unreliable source, instead of asking Kubo Tite directly. -- DEERSTOP ( talk). 18:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
A "new SJ interview" with Kubo has just popped up on the web (thank you 4chan), and would be six types of useful if we could confirm its authenticity. It discusses, among other things, why the series is called "Bleach". Text of the interview can be found here, and it meshes well enough with the other interviews and articles I've been searching out recently that I doubt it's a hoax, but before it can be used, we need to know the actual magazine issue it's from. Any SJ subscribers willing to confirm this one and give a proper citation for it? -- erachima talk 19:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Just a minor edit regarding the neutrality of the article. Hollows are not "a race of evil spirits who feed on the souls of humans, both living and dead". Hollows are not "evil" in that they are more animalistic than anything else. They have simply been consumed by thier grief or rage and as such cant move on to the next life. Also no Hollow "feeds" on living souls; however close contact with a recently passed soul can increase the speed it turns to a Hollow.
The rest of the section refers specifically to a subgroup of the Hollows; those who remove their masks and become Arrancar. Most are designed with a Spanish motif but not all. ---- kav2001c 22:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This will be a VERY VERY unpopular subject (I hate the idea but it must be brought up)... It appears that since there is now a BLEACH wiki for the manga, there may not be a need for any articles that are/is just about one character. If that's the case then maybe we should start fazing them all out. They should just have sections in the list of characters article (Renji, Byakuya, Hitsugaya, Kenpachi, etc. should just have sections in the "List of Soul Reapers in Bleach" article with links to characters section; vice versa with Ichigo and Rukia). If (and a very big IF!!!) this should happen than we should start with all the Soul Reapers characters (except Rukia).
Please discuss.-- Halls452 ( talk) 20:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The direct link has been placed to bleach the chemical, please do not revert: between a chemical and a comic strip there's not much debate over which gets 'priority'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.162.99.47 ( talk) 02:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
In the media section of this article I added a small and brief section on the Bleach Trading Card Game. I'd like to create a seperate article on the Bleach Trading Card Game, (the Trading Card Game based on the Bleach Anime), where I would add more info on it, but I'm having trouble doing so. When you search "Bleach Trading Card Game" it's redirected to the "Bleach(Manga)" article, (which was incorrect until I added a section on it). I tried to make it so that searching "Bleach Trading Card Game" would lead to a seperate article on it and not "Bleach(Manga)", but I'm having trouble doing so and got confused about it, can someone help me please?-- Dragon3025 ( talk) 22:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
The article talks about what happens to souls that die in the soul society, but it doesn't talk about what happens when they are killed by a Hollow, when they die on earth, killed while still living (An arrancar swallows the souls a crowd of living humans, where he says they tasted bad), or when they are hollows, and they're killed by quincies. It doesn't say if they are still reborn, if they go to hell (do those souls ever come back?), or if they are just...Gone. The article doesn't talk about those. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.246.16 ( talk) 03:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
hollows that have done mortal sins while living are sent to hell after being slayed by shinigami's, explained in ep. 5 i believe. shyhaida( 71.231.253.164 ( talk) 09:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC))
What happened to the article on the 3rd Bleach movie that's coming out? All references to it point to the main bleach (manga) page. The page doesn't seem to exist anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabishii Kouen ( talk • contribs) 09:09, December 3, 2008
For reference later whenever the page meets sufficient notability guidelines. Sorry, had some trouble keeping it readable.
The movie opened #3 at box office with $1,679,634 US. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/?yr=2008&wk=50&p=.htm
It dropped to #10 the next week http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/?yr=2008&wk=51&p=.htm and is still #10 last weekend.
Episodes 197-200 were the ones that had opening sequences replaced with movie footage.
The movie's theme song by Porno Graffiti opened at #2 on the Oricon singles chart. http://www.jpopasia.com/play/13781/porno-graffitti/koyoi-tsuki-ga-miezutomo.html
December 17th, 2008, they released a new Bleach Beat Collection, 4th Session 04, with Ichigo and Rukia singing a duet together. http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9x-49-en-70-31m2.html The release was timed to come out with the movie.
Ridiculously popular Hirano Aya voices the female villain of the movie.
Weekly Shounen Jump issue 04/05 has a fold-out Fade to Black poster that Kubo drew as promotion. He also drew unique art for it in the movie pamphlet (the thing you get when you go to the movies).
I have a question. There have been a lot (and I MEAN A LOT) of promos and interviews with the seiyuu of Ichigo and Rukia, a TV special with Hirano Aya, and of course, Kubo Tite. They've been scanned and/or translated by fans onto forums, which is how I know. Do these count as legitimate sources to be cited? Some of these are magazines and some are from the official movie guide. A lot of the information would be relevant in the article; stuff about the 80k presold tickets, movie merchandise (.. including guitars), etc. Voice actors aside (though they've got interesting points), in particular I mean Kubo's involvement with the movie and major themes that he emphasizes, since he's basically Word of God. My hesitation is because we'd have to lead the citations back to forums, since that's where the translations were posted. My personal view is that the translations are legit, plus we could only cite the ones that have original Japanese scans so anyone who's capable could easily take a first-hand look. Kylara21 ( talk) 18:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Is the list of kido spells that minor? At least, IMO, there need to be a general abilities page instead of listing generaly on every race's page. all type of shinigami combat should go to the page. Icel21m ( talk) 09:08, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting if a new section would be included to discuss why the author came up with all this fictional jargon terms derived from Spanish, as well as, how he manages to give these terms a meaning in Japanese while giving a pronunciation that resembles words from Spanish. 88.217.43.209 ( talk) 21:53, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, this is a reply to Hanaichi's bid to talk on Nov 2 2008. I corrected the rōmaji for ウェコムンド to Weko Mundo instead of Ueko Mundo because the former is the correct transcription of ウェコムンド: the vowel u (ウ) + a small form of another vowel (here, ェ, small form of エ e) causes u to be pronounced like w. Check the "Table of" section of the Katakana page to confirm this. In summation, the reading Ueko of ウェコ is wrong, and Weko is correct. Adam Restling ( talk) 13:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
In spanish terms, it would sound like "weko". not "ueko". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.176.77 ( talk) 17:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
the setting only shows soul society and Las noches. but what about the one place where the blanks are? even though it was in the movie only, and not really part of the series, it should be mentioned. DeathBerry talk 17:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Notability of the 3rd movie is under debate. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone ever gotten a story on the origin of the name of the series? 32.154.110.248 ( talk) 06:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to know what people think about translating "shinigami" to "soul reaper". In Japanese culture, does shinigami really refer to what we would call soul reaper ? I mean, when you look at the word, "shini" and "gami", it pretty much says "god of death". So what do you think of the current translation ? Noirdesirs ( talk) 19:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I understand that but it doesn't seem so clear to me. Forgive the following but, if Viz Media said Sinigami means Ice Cream, we would probably not use that in the English wikipedia as a definition, would we ? Do we always have to admit that what the US editor says about a manga/anime is the official and right way ? After all, is the article about Bleach or Viz Media's edition of Bleach ? Noirdesirs ( talk) 18:30, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
So the names used here are supposed to be those used by most people. All right then. Noirdesirs ( talk) 19:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I have left a message for the IP who has been changing the terms in the last few days. If it keeps happening, it may be necessary to request page protection for a few days. Dandy Sephy ( talk) 01:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to point out that now it says literally this : "Soul Reapers (死神, Shinigami?, lit. "the death")" if we're going to put in that the Japanese kanji translates to the romaji "shinigami" why not put the proper english translation of "shinigami" which is not "the death" but "death god". Maybe no one's been looking at this recently; I see everyones had a substantial argument about it and liscensing won out, but it seems to be up there now as a matter of translation, however the translation is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.160.37.254 ( talk) 16:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Just dropping refs here about the Alleged Bleach Plagiarism:
-- KrebMarkt 10:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Hot on the heels of accusations that Gene Simmons' kid ripped off Bleach for his own comic Incarnate, Warner Bros. purchased the Bleach movie rights.
Bleach, Death Note, and Descendants of Darkness all call their people Shinigami. I thought it would be a good idea for there to be a Category:Shinigami for those and any other titles that use the term "Shinigami" Oddly enough Descendants of Darkness wasn't reversed by Tintor2 Hackwrench ( talk) 21:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
On the "Bleach (manga)" page, I request that the plot should be expanded between the parts of Rukia's Execution and Orihime's Abduction. I request this because there is 15 Volumes and between 75 to 81 Chapters in between the two events. —Preceding unsigned comment added by U2dead ( talk • contribs) 04:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
DVD box set 5 Mania.com -- KrebMarkt 12:53, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I think there should be a link to the cleanser bleach, because this is the first thing to come up when you google "bleach" (believe it or not) 202.89.189.114 ( talk) 07:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
So Bleach appears to be nearing a conclusion very quickly (it could possibly be complete within a few weeks). Should this be noted in the weeks to come? For one the interview with Tite Kupo where he said he had yet to write an ending, is from 2008, and a lot can happen in 2 years (just look at One Piece). Just an FYI, if in anything, keep your eyes peeled in the coming weeks. 70.148.217.99 ( talk) 00:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't have a source, but I've heard it mentioned a lot on the Bleach Wiki that Kubo stated that after the Arrancar arc, he would do a short arc, and then continue on to a much longer arc. A lot of speculators are pointing to the Decide chapters as the mini-arc, but either way there's supposedly a large arc still to come. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.209.43.82 ( talk) 04:16, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
In an interview with Tite Kubo in MASKED, he said that following the arrancar arc, there will be a short arc followed by a much longer one, the arrancar arc ended with chapter 421, see http://www.shonenjump.com/e/news/index.html.-- 150.212.38.96 ( talk) 20:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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DragonZero ( Talk · Contribs) 04:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC) about the dead references, 10 min on waybackmachine would fix it right? 88.91.182.227 ( talk) 17:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
How is episode 304 of the anime the 10th anniversary? Frank0051 ( talk) 23:28, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
"Bleach (Manga)" is rather limiting. Maybe it should be "Bleach (franchise)" instead. -- jfry3 ( talk) 21:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
dont u think the genre of this anime can also be labelled as comedy? The anime does feature a lot of comedy in most of the scenes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.254.5.200 ( talk) 06:37, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Seeing how some people seem to disagree about listing the anime as ending on March 27, here is what I have to say to the people who keep removing the end date: Reliable sources report it ends on March 27th. They do not say anything at all about it moving to a new timeslot. So far, all this "it's been moved" stuff is nothing more than rumor and speculation on forums, unsupported by legitimate sources.
We can only go by what legitimate sources say. Until a source like ANN confirms that it was moved instead of canceled, we have to say what we currently know: that it will end on March 27. That's my two cents on this issue. 67.248.15.175 ( talk) 03:26, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I put in a citation tag on this even though I know is is difficult to cite something clearly stated as speculation. However, a link to some more information about the cancellation and speculation would be helpful I believe. Autumn Wind ( talk) 15:02, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Why was my edit undone? All I did was make a link to the Bleach Wikiquote page and to the Bleach wiki. 91.177.199.137 ( talk) 13:52, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Over the past couple of weeks I have noticed that one particular area in the plot section keeps getting removed and re-added all the time. That section is this - Despite using his bankai to attempt to kill him, Juha surprises Yamamoto by stealing his bankai, then instantly kills him using his abilities. As the Vandenreich overrun the soul society, Ichigo arrives to take on Juha Bach. So I just wanted to talk about it and see what people think, is the general consensus that section isn't necessarily needed or do we wanna keep it in? As the constant edits over it are getting really annoying and unnecessary. – Blue☆Stars 83 13:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Should we add that Bleach is coming to it's final arc? Like "Tite Kubo has announced that he is going to start his final arc on February 8th." -- KiumaruHamachi ( talk) 23:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
The anime reception is most definitely not applicable or necessary on a page about the manga. It should rightfully be at the Bleach (anime) page. There is no point in having two long paragraphs on something that isn't even examined in detail here. Might as well say that the movies need their own reception as well. Basically, if there is stand alone article, the reception of that topic should not be mirrored to another page when it is only specific and dealing with another adaptation including its original stories. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 16:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
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Under the Characters section, there is the following sentence:
The character Orihime is a complex character who has been both praised and criticized for her appearances. Her role has developed from a "big-breasted bimbo" throughout the story, but the way in which she uses her power has been deemed as stereotypical.[13][14]
Having looked at the citations, nothing in either citation supports any part of the sentence. The closest is the second review (listed as citation [14]) which says the following:
Imagine the usual stereotypes, but skew them with odd traits, and give their personalities an extra edge of attitude: that's what makes these characters special. Ichigo isn't just an excitable, sword-swinging hero—he's a hero with a smart mouth and a chip on his shoulder. Rukia's equally strong personality is the perfect complement to that; together the two of them exchange some of the snappiest dialogue in the show. Ichigo's allies are just as interesting: pretty boy Ishida is cool in every way, from his attacks to his demeanor; girly-girl Orihime discovers her power through fashion accessories; strong and silent Chad proves that the only thing bigger than his frame is his compassion. Call them two-dimensional if you must, but these are some very unique dimensions.
I'm too new to the Wikipedia format to want to mess with the main article, especially when it involves citations, but can someone confirm whether these two citations are being correctly used? Giantgreenstalk ( talk) 19:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
As the RFC has apparently been ended, I am now beginning a proper merge discussion here. As previously decided earlier in the year, this split was unfounded and actively argued against. The AFD also leant towards this conclusion. Despite the fact that this series was on the air for 8 years, the issue stands that it is not unique enough from the manga to warrant a split. It may feature more than 100 episodes of original story, but this can be covered in the episode lists or as part of discussion of the anime within the article on the manga, as presently it only comprises a single paragraph on Bleach (anime). The reception section in the anime version of the article is not really specific to praise or criticism of the anime itself, but rather the shared story between the manga and anime. There is very little if any discussion of the filler arcs. The extensive coverage of the English language release is really undue weight. The production of the anime is best suited to a write up in a shared article, as there is no discussion of production in the manga page. The music stuff is best suited for its own separate article, or its current coverage within the episode lists. And the "related media" is still related to the manga as well. While I agree that there are times where separate coverage does benefit the project, it does not seem to be the case with Bleach due to how closely related the anime and manga are. — Ryulong ( 琉竜) 22:43, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
According to the article on Bangsian fantasy, it involves a story where the characters meet dead historical figures, something that never happens in Bleach. Why is it listed as one? 96.229.219.202 ( talk) 19:13, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Why aren't we linking to the useful resource that is Bleach Wikia [3]? Please note that the argument that fansites like this violate WP:EL is not valid, I asked about this at Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#Honorverse_wikia recently. So if there are no other objections, I'll add a link to it to our elink section. As for number 12 at WP:ELNO, it is slightly bigger than the Young Justice wikia ( [4]) which was approved at [5]), seems stable and is actively maintained. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:12, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Bleach does not make the 2011 best selling manga published by the New York Times, link - List of The New York Times Manga Best Sellers. I'm not sure about 2012 data though. Should we keep the part in the article about it being one of the best selling manga in the US?
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howdo you start a book?'Bold text' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ag rosebud ( talk • contribs) 16:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
There's this semi-offhand line in the Production section: "Kubo has also stated that he wishes to make Bleach an experience that can only be found by reading manga, and dismissed ideas of creating any live-action film adaptations of the series". With a live action adaptation coming in 2018, should this line be deleted, replaced etc.? I can't see any way to rewrite this bit to mention the new film without wrecking the flow of the section and in context it seems relevant enough to avoid deletion. CaveDragon ( talk) 16:18, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
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Tite Kubo was interviewed by the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-book28-2008aug28,0,7578031.story and talks about Bleach some. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 04:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Good find, good find.
Actually, there has been a mass influx of Bleach source info recently since Kubo's stateside visit. We should probably do a push to get this page back up to GA in the next week or two. I'm especially cheered to see that the article comments on the character designs a bit, since that's always been one of Bleach's best points, but missed in most early reviews since they were based on only the first few volumes. -- erachima talk 05:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
The first article is pretty good, but it does have a few errors: for instance, "zanpakuto" is misspelled, and the description of Ichigo's zanpakuto states that it is "inhabited" by a powerful spirit - when, in fact, Zangetsu *is* Ichigo's zanpakuto. Of course, these types of errors are to be expected and therefore somewhat forgivable. I didn't read the second one, but they should both definitely be useful as sources, errors or not. — Dino guy 1000 19:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I've put in a request for a B-class checklist assessment - it'd be easier to go from a B to a GA than it would be from a C. - Malkinann ( talk) 05:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
(Version reviewed) I have completed the B checklist per request, find my reasoning below. Good luck in getting the article back to GA status! I will be watching this page, please ask if you require further detail or a re-review. Regards, G.A.S 05:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Per the MOS we should label names according to the dubs and translated manga. Therefore we should refer to Shinigami in Bleach as "Soul Reapers" WhisperToMe ( talk) 20:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
A bit after the fact now, but what I meant by partially translated is that the series is further in Japan than Viz is. This probably won't cause any problems in the case of replacing shinigami, but if you were to, say, start renaming all the kido techniques from Japanese to English, it would get messy, since Viz names only exist for the ones that they've published. -- erachima talk 05:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't it just be used as Tite kubo intended it, not Viz? I know the whole debate about common usage but still, using Soul Reaper isn't correct according to the manga, which was decided to be this pages name instead of Bleach(anime). a subnote can always be left showing that both usages are correct if needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diablo11d ( talk • contribs) 17:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Shinigami is the much more prevalent usage. 2 million vs. 135,000. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) 02:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
We'd call a tanuki a tanuki no matter how vehemently a dubbing company called it a raccoon. On the same sort of logic, I'd support calling a shinigami a shinigami. Note that the term has its own English Wikipedia entry. The term is used across many different types of Japanese media and not using it would weaken these encyclopedic connections. – Gunslinger47 16:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
May someone please mention exactly which guidelines favor "Soul Reaper" over "Shinigami"? I happen to think that Shinigami is obviously a much better choice, among other reasons because it is very much a series-specific concept ("Bleach" Shinigami have barely any resemblance at all to Shinigami/Reapers of other works of fiction). Yes, Kubo translated it into "Soul Reaper", but I don't think that changes much; just because he used an approximate translation at one point it does not mean that the translation is better than the real thing. I have a hard time even guessing a reason to use "Soul Reaper" over "Shinigami". More so in a series that makes liberal use of intentional barbarisms such as "Hueco Mundo". Unneeded translations are just dead weight. Luis Dantas ( talk) 09:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Shinigami should be used as the mangaka intended, not Viz Media. Tite Kubo did use Soul Reaper in the artbook All Colour But The Black, aside from that there are no other references provided. One use of the term "Soul Reaper" is insufficient reasoning. The point that Viz Media uses "Soul Reaper" in Bleach, and "Shinigami" in Full Moon o Sagashite, could be due to the fact that it started releasing Bleach over 13 months prior to Full Moon o Sagashite. "Soul Reaper" as opposed to "Shinigami" might have seemed to be the better alternative at first, then in time preferring the latter of terms, Viz Media chose to keep "Shinigami" as it was intended in Full Moon o Sagashite. For that possibility, comparing the translation of the terms in two different mangas released in North America from the same company simply because it is their "choice" is irrelevant. From the reiterated guidelines above, i have highlighted from quotes: WP:MOS-AM#Article names and disambiguation - "Use official English titles for article names, and place the transliteration of the Japanese on the first line of the article, unless the native form is more commonly recognized by readers than the English form." WP:NAME - "The names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors, and for a general audience over specialists." - "Generally, article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." I also quote Luis Dantas for presenting a very good point. "I happen to think that Shinigami is obviously a much better choice, among other reasons because it is very much a series-specific concept ("Bleach" Shinigami have barely any resemblance at all to Shinigami/Reapers of other works of fiction)." -- ShadowCrew ( talk) 07:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Again, per the guidelines, I reiterate "article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize" and "the names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors." -- ShadowCrew ( talk) 08:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
The thing is, a whole lot of the WP information on Bleach relates to stuff that is after Volume 24, the latest Viz translation. If we hold to the premise that only the Viz translations are official or canonical, then shouldn't all information gleaning from fan scanlations or translations (which it all really has to be, unless we have a huge number of Japanese-English speaking contributors) be removed? Corbmobile ( talk) 06:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Did it ever occur to you that Soul Reaper, even though that Viz organization used the term without thought, is a VERY different concept and has a different meaning from shinigami to the point that i, as a fan of the tv adaption of the series, do not recognize it anymore and feel very unfamiliar with it? the name, the meaning, all the things that come with the original name of shinigami are lost when using that poorly translitered english term of 'soul reaper'. it is with horror that i noticed the degeneration of the original shinigami (bleach) article. shinigami is a proper name. you can compare it to similar appearances in other series. proper names are no subject to translation. no one would ever try to "translate" words like 'klingons' for example. this makes no sense. and just because the term used by the only official english adaption is soul reaper, it does not make it the most widely recognized and used term for english speaking fans. Watchingthewave ( talk) 21:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Three Bleach-related pages have been selected for inclusion in Wikipedia:0.7, an official test release of Wikipedia on DVD. These pages are Bleach (manga), Ichigo Kurosaki, and Rukia Kuchiki. I think it would be great if we could get all three of these pages to be GA standard when the release date rolls around October 20th, and will be working on them with this intent over the next week or two. Towards that end, I'm making a to-do list below. Feel free to add to it or work on the stuff listed. -- erachima talk 10:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Things to do for each page:
The original story concept was submitted to Weekly Shōnen Jump shortly after the cancellation of Tite Kubo's previous manga Zombie Powder, but was rejected. Akira Toriyama, the mangaka of Dragon Ball, saw the story and wrote a letter of encouragement to Kubo.
I have a strong feeling that the author of LA Times article took this infromation (which was considered a rumour) from TV.com or other unreliable source, instead of asking Kubo Tite directly. -- DEERSTOP ( talk). 18:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
A "new SJ interview" with Kubo has just popped up on the web (thank you 4chan), and would be six types of useful if we could confirm its authenticity. It discusses, among other things, why the series is called "Bleach". Text of the interview can be found here, and it meshes well enough with the other interviews and articles I've been searching out recently that I doubt it's a hoax, but before it can be used, we need to know the actual magazine issue it's from. Any SJ subscribers willing to confirm this one and give a proper citation for it? -- erachima talk 19:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Just a minor edit regarding the neutrality of the article. Hollows are not "a race of evil spirits who feed on the souls of humans, both living and dead". Hollows are not "evil" in that they are more animalistic than anything else. They have simply been consumed by thier grief or rage and as such cant move on to the next life. Also no Hollow "feeds" on living souls; however close contact with a recently passed soul can increase the speed it turns to a Hollow.
The rest of the section refers specifically to a subgroup of the Hollows; those who remove their masks and become Arrancar. Most are designed with a Spanish motif but not all. ---- kav2001c 22:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This will be a VERY VERY unpopular subject (I hate the idea but it must be brought up)... It appears that since there is now a BLEACH wiki for the manga, there may not be a need for any articles that are/is just about one character. If that's the case then maybe we should start fazing them all out. They should just have sections in the list of characters article (Renji, Byakuya, Hitsugaya, Kenpachi, etc. should just have sections in the "List of Soul Reapers in Bleach" article with links to characters section; vice versa with Ichigo and Rukia). If (and a very big IF!!!) this should happen than we should start with all the Soul Reapers characters (except Rukia).
Please discuss.-- Halls452 ( talk) 20:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The direct link has been placed to bleach the chemical, please do not revert: between a chemical and a comic strip there's not much debate over which gets 'priority'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.162.99.47 ( talk) 02:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
In the media section of this article I added a small and brief section on the Bleach Trading Card Game. I'd like to create a seperate article on the Bleach Trading Card Game, (the Trading Card Game based on the Bleach Anime), where I would add more info on it, but I'm having trouble doing so. When you search "Bleach Trading Card Game" it's redirected to the "Bleach(Manga)" article, (which was incorrect until I added a section on it). I tried to make it so that searching "Bleach Trading Card Game" would lead to a seperate article on it and not "Bleach(Manga)", but I'm having trouble doing so and got confused about it, can someone help me please?-- Dragon3025 ( talk) 22:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
The article talks about what happens to souls that die in the soul society, but it doesn't talk about what happens when they are killed by a Hollow, when they die on earth, killed while still living (An arrancar swallows the souls a crowd of living humans, where he says they tasted bad), or when they are hollows, and they're killed by quincies. It doesn't say if they are still reborn, if they go to hell (do those souls ever come back?), or if they are just...Gone. The article doesn't talk about those. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.246.16 ( talk) 03:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
hollows that have done mortal sins while living are sent to hell after being slayed by shinigami's, explained in ep. 5 i believe. shyhaida( 71.231.253.164 ( talk) 09:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC))
What happened to the article on the 3rd Bleach movie that's coming out? All references to it point to the main bleach (manga) page. The page doesn't seem to exist anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabishii Kouen ( talk • contribs) 09:09, December 3, 2008
For reference later whenever the page meets sufficient notability guidelines. Sorry, had some trouble keeping it readable.
The movie opened #3 at box office with $1,679,634 US. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/?yr=2008&wk=50&p=.htm
It dropped to #10 the next week http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/?yr=2008&wk=51&p=.htm and is still #10 last weekend.
Episodes 197-200 were the ones that had opening sequences replaced with movie footage.
The movie's theme song by Porno Graffiti opened at #2 on the Oricon singles chart. http://www.jpopasia.com/play/13781/porno-graffitti/koyoi-tsuki-ga-miezutomo.html
December 17th, 2008, they released a new Bleach Beat Collection, 4th Session 04, with Ichigo and Rukia singing a duet together. http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9x-49-en-70-31m2.html The release was timed to come out with the movie.
Ridiculously popular Hirano Aya voices the female villain of the movie.
Weekly Shounen Jump issue 04/05 has a fold-out Fade to Black poster that Kubo drew as promotion. He also drew unique art for it in the movie pamphlet (the thing you get when you go to the movies).
I have a question. There have been a lot (and I MEAN A LOT) of promos and interviews with the seiyuu of Ichigo and Rukia, a TV special with Hirano Aya, and of course, Kubo Tite. They've been scanned and/or translated by fans onto forums, which is how I know. Do these count as legitimate sources to be cited? Some of these are magazines and some are from the official movie guide. A lot of the information would be relevant in the article; stuff about the 80k presold tickets, movie merchandise (.. including guitars), etc. Voice actors aside (though they've got interesting points), in particular I mean Kubo's involvement with the movie and major themes that he emphasizes, since he's basically Word of God. My hesitation is because we'd have to lead the citations back to forums, since that's where the translations were posted. My personal view is that the translations are legit, plus we could only cite the ones that have original Japanese scans so anyone who's capable could easily take a first-hand look. Kylara21 ( talk) 18:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Is the list of kido spells that minor? At least, IMO, there need to be a general abilities page instead of listing generaly on every race's page. all type of shinigami combat should go to the page. Icel21m ( talk) 09:08, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting if a new section would be included to discuss why the author came up with all this fictional jargon terms derived from Spanish, as well as, how he manages to give these terms a meaning in Japanese while giving a pronunciation that resembles words from Spanish. 88.217.43.209 ( talk) 21:53, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, this is a reply to Hanaichi's bid to talk on Nov 2 2008. I corrected the rōmaji for ウェコムンド to Weko Mundo instead of Ueko Mundo because the former is the correct transcription of ウェコムンド: the vowel u (ウ) + a small form of another vowel (here, ェ, small form of エ e) causes u to be pronounced like w. Check the "Table of" section of the Katakana page to confirm this. In summation, the reading Ueko of ウェコ is wrong, and Weko is correct. Adam Restling ( talk) 13:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
In spanish terms, it would sound like "weko". not "ueko". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.176.77 ( talk) 17:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
the setting only shows soul society and Las noches. but what about the one place where the blanks are? even though it was in the movie only, and not really part of the series, it should be mentioned. DeathBerry talk 17:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Notability of the 3rd movie is under debate. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone ever gotten a story on the origin of the name of the series? 32.154.110.248 ( talk) 06:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to know what people think about translating "shinigami" to "soul reaper". In Japanese culture, does shinigami really refer to what we would call soul reaper ? I mean, when you look at the word, "shini" and "gami", it pretty much says "god of death". So what do you think of the current translation ? Noirdesirs ( talk) 19:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I understand that but it doesn't seem so clear to me. Forgive the following but, if Viz Media said Sinigami means Ice Cream, we would probably not use that in the English wikipedia as a definition, would we ? Do we always have to admit that what the US editor says about a manga/anime is the official and right way ? After all, is the article about Bleach or Viz Media's edition of Bleach ? Noirdesirs ( talk) 18:30, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
So the names used here are supposed to be those used by most people. All right then. Noirdesirs ( talk) 19:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I have left a message for the IP who has been changing the terms in the last few days. If it keeps happening, it may be necessary to request page protection for a few days. Dandy Sephy ( talk) 01:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to point out that now it says literally this : "Soul Reapers (死神, Shinigami?, lit. "the death")" if we're going to put in that the Japanese kanji translates to the romaji "shinigami" why not put the proper english translation of "shinigami" which is not "the death" but "death god". Maybe no one's been looking at this recently; I see everyones had a substantial argument about it and liscensing won out, but it seems to be up there now as a matter of translation, however the translation is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.160.37.254 ( talk) 16:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Just dropping refs here about the Alleged Bleach Plagiarism:
-- KrebMarkt 10:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Hot on the heels of accusations that Gene Simmons' kid ripped off Bleach for his own comic Incarnate, Warner Bros. purchased the Bleach movie rights.
Bleach, Death Note, and Descendants of Darkness all call their people Shinigami. I thought it would be a good idea for there to be a Category:Shinigami for those and any other titles that use the term "Shinigami" Oddly enough Descendants of Darkness wasn't reversed by Tintor2 Hackwrench ( talk) 21:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
On the "Bleach (manga)" page, I request that the plot should be expanded between the parts of Rukia's Execution and Orihime's Abduction. I request this because there is 15 Volumes and between 75 to 81 Chapters in between the two events. —Preceding unsigned comment added by U2dead ( talk • contribs) 04:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
DVD box set 5 Mania.com -- KrebMarkt 12:53, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I think there should be a link to the cleanser bleach, because this is the first thing to come up when you google "bleach" (believe it or not) 202.89.189.114 ( talk) 07:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
So Bleach appears to be nearing a conclusion very quickly (it could possibly be complete within a few weeks). Should this be noted in the weeks to come? For one the interview with Tite Kupo where he said he had yet to write an ending, is from 2008, and a lot can happen in 2 years (just look at One Piece). Just an FYI, if in anything, keep your eyes peeled in the coming weeks. 70.148.217.99 ( talk) 00:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't have a source, but I've heard it mentioned a lot on the Bleach Wiki that Kubo stated that after the Arrancar arc, he would do a short arc, and then continue on to a much longer arc. A lot of speculators are pointing to the Decide chapters as the mini-arc, but either way there's supposedly a large arc still to come. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.209.43.82 ( talk) 04:16, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
In an interview with Tite Kubo in MASKED, he said that following the arrancar arc, there will be a short arc followed by a much longer one, the arrancar arc ended with chapter 421, see http://www.shonenjump.com/e/news/index.html.-- 150.212.38.96 ( talk) 20:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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DragonZero ( Talk · Contribs) 04:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC) about the dead references, 10 min on waybackmachine would fix it right? 88.91.182.227 ( talk) 17:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
How is episode 304 of the anime the 10th anniversary? Frank0051 ( talk) 23:28, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
"Bleach (Manga)" is rather limiting. Maybe it should be "Bleach (franchise)" instead. -- jfry3 ( talk) 21:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
dont u think the genre of this anime can also be labelled as comedy? The anime does feature a lot of comedy in most of the scenes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.254.5.200 ( talk) 06:37, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Seeing how some people seem to disagree about listing the anime as ending on March 27, here is what I have to say to the people who keep removing the end date: Reliable sources report it ends on March 27th. They do not say anything at all about it moving to a new timeslot. So far, all this "it's been moved" stuff is nothing more than rumor and speculation on forums, unsupported by legitimate sources.
We can only go by what legitimate sources say. Until a source like ANN confirms that it was moved instead of canceled, we have to say what we currently know: that it will end on March 27. That's my two cents on this issue. 67.248.15.175 ( talk) 03:26, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I put in a citation tag on this even though I know is is difficult to cite something clearly stated as speculation. However, a link to some more information about the cancellation and speculation would be helpful I believe. Autumn Wind ( talk) 15:02, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Why was my edit undone? All I did was make a link to the Bleach Wikiquote page and to the Bleach wiki. 91.177.199.137 ( talk) 13:52, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Over the past couple of weeks I have noticed that one particular area in the plot section keeps getting removed and re-added all the time. That section is this - Despite using his bankai to attempt to kill him, Juha surprises Yamamoto by stealing his bankai, then instantly kills him using his abilities. As the Vandenreich overrun the soul society, Ichigo arrives to take on Juha Bach. So I just wanted to talk about it and see what people think, is the general consensus that section isn't necessarily needed or do we wanna keep it in? As the constant edits over it are getting really annoying and unnecessary. – Blue☆Stars 83 13:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Should we add that Bleach is coming to it's final arc? Like "Tite Kubo has announced that he is going to start his final arc on February 8th." -- KiumaruHamachi ( talk) 23:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
The anime reception is most definitely not applicable or necessary on a page about the manga. It should rightfully be at the Bleach (anime) page. There is no point in having two long paragraphs on something that isn't even examined in detail here. Might as well say that the movies need their own reception as well. Basically, if there is stand alone article, the reception of that topic should not be mirrored to another page when it is only specific and dealing with another adaptation including its original stories. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 16:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
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Under the Characters section, there is the following sentence:
The character Orihime is a complex character who has been both praised and criticized for her appearances. Her role has developed from a "big-breasted bimbo" throughout the story, but the way in which she uses her power has been deemed as stereotypical.[13][14]
Having looked at the citations, nothing in either citation supports any part of the sentence. The closest is the second review (listed as citation [14]) which says the following:
Imagine the usual stereotypes, but skew them with odd traits, and give their personalities an extra edge of attitude: that's what makes these characters special. Ichigo isn't just an excitable, sword-swinging hero—he's a hero with a smart mouth and a chip on his shoulder. Rukia's equally strong personality is the perfect complement to that; together the two of them exchange some of the snappiest dialogue in the show. Ichigo's allies are just as interesting: pretty boy Ishida is cool in every way, from his attacks to his demeanor; girly-girl Orihime discovers her power through fashion accessories; strong and silent Chad proves that the only thing bigger than his frame is his compassion. Call them two-dimensional if you must, but these are some very unique dimensions.
I'm too new to the Wikipedia format to want to mess with the main article, especially when it involves citations, but can someone confirm whether these two citations are being correctly used? Giantgreenstalk ( talk) 19:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
As the RFC has apparently been ended, I am now beginning a proper merge discussion here. As previously decided earlier in the year, this split was unfounded and actively argued against. The AFD also leant towards this conclusion. Despite the fact that this series was on the air for 8 years, the issue stands that it is not unique enough from the manga to warrant a split. It may feature more than 100 episodes of original story, but this can be covered in the episode lists or as part of discussion of the anime within the article on the manga, as presently it only comprises a single paragraph on Bleach (anime). The reception section in the anime version of the article is not really specific to praise or criticism of the anime itself, but rather the shared story between the manga and anime. There is very little if any discussion of the filler arcs. The extensive coverage of the English language release is really undue weight. The production of the anime is best suited to a write up in a shared article, as there is no discussion of production in the manga page. The music stuff is best suited for its own separate article, or its current coverage within the episode lists. And the "related media" is still related to the manga as well. While I agree that there are times where separate coverage does benefit the project, it does not seem to be the case with Bleach due to how closely related the anime and manga are. — Ryulong ( 琉竜) 22:43, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
According to the article on Bangsian fantasy, it involves a story where the characters meet dead historical figures, something that never happens in Bleach. Why is it listed as one? 96.229.219.202 ( talk) 19:13, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Why aren't we linking to the useful resource that is Bleach Wikia [3]? Please note that the argument that fansites like this violate WP:EL is not valid, I asked about this at Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#Honorverse_wikia recently. So if there are no other objections, I'll add a link to it to our elink section. As for number 12 at WP:ELNO, it is slightly bigger than the Young Justice wikia ( [4]) which was approved at [5]), seems stable and is actively maintained. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:12, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Bleach does not make the 2011 best selling manga published by the New York Times, link - List of The New York Times Manga Best Sellers. I'm not sure about 2012 data though. Should we keep the part in the article about it being one of the best selling manga in the US?
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howdo you start a book?'Bold text' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ag rosebud ( talk • contribs) 16:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
There's this semi-offhand line in the Production section: "Kubo has also stated that he wishes to make Bleach an experience that can only be found by reading manga, and dismissed ideas of creating any live-action film adaptations of the series". With a live action adaptation coming in 2018, should this line be deleted, replaced etc.? I can't see any way to rewrite this bit to mention the new film without wrecking the flow of the section and in context it seems relevant enough to avoid deletion. CaveDragon ( talk) 16:18, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
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