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Please do not add every time the hall gets a mention on tv or in the press, it is supposed to be about the hall. Wentworth Castle which appeared in the programmes has a much more balanced approach, ie a single mention. Readers wishing to learn about the hall will get not want to see the constant highlighting of trivia. -- J3Mrs ( talk) 09:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
I thought i best bring this from Talk: Bank Hall to your page. If stating the facts and adding factual information is classed as promoting a topic then I guess half of wikipedia needs to be removed then... I and past editiors you mention have tried to add information that we know well and even provided references for, but cause it mentions two certain words in it and you dont know anything about it, then you think it is trying to promote it... so you remove it... i just wish someone would do this to you! you obviously have a big hang up about something. JMRH6 (talk) 21:44, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
The centre's own website didn't highlight the connection. The ref you gave said there were exhibitions in 2003 and 2006 so obviously out of date. This article doesn't need a spurious Bank Hall connection.-- J3Mrs ( talk) 12:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
The estate remains part of the Lilford Estates and is managed by a land agent, Acland Bracewell in Tarleton. Is this the case, or is there a separate Lilford Estate office? Very confusing. J3Mrs ( talk) 13:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
This may interest you on the subject, the Lions were from Atherton Hall and are now by the estate offices at Tarleton. http://www.leigh life.com/index.php?page=wiki&id=leighlife:lions_bridge wikipedia doesnt like the full link for some reason so i have had to add a space in the link I know its only a forum talk page but somebody has done their research! :) JMRH6 ( talk) 13:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
So the estate is managed by two different agents? The website you mention is not reliable. I am well aware the lions are from the Lion's Bridge at Atherton Hall but am not aware of how you know my interests unless you are a previous "conflict of interest" editor. J3Mrs ( talk) 15:04, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Once more trivia is being added. Pity. J3Mrs ( talk) 13:39, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I had assumed that the main image shows the front of the house. This is described throughout the text as the "south front", has the clock tower and faces the lawn. Two of the other images, however, are captioned "Legh Keck coat of arms above the front porch at Bank Hall" and "Diaper flushwork on a 1608 front elevation". But as far as I cab see, both of these features are situated on the opposite side of the house, facing the woodland, which appears to be the rear. Could anyone clarify? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 11:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Tarleton lies approximately one kilometre to the south of Bank Hall, just across the River Douglas. It is currently included in the article be means of fifteen words in the single sentence “In 1719 Henrietta Maria Legh donated land on which to build St Mary's Church, Tarleton.” The citation source [2] tells us that “She and her heirs were to have the nomination of the curate, with the approbation of the rector of Croston.” This detail is included at the article for the church. But do other editors feel it is also relevant here? I tried to add it, but another editor swiftly removed it with the edit summary: “Please keep this article focussed on the hall, the information is in the blue linked article.” I then tried to add a note giving the location of the church in relation to the Hall, but this was removed with the edit summary “pointless addition”. As there was never any chapel at the Hall, it seems very likely that the Legh family intended to use St Mary’s as their own “private church” as it was within very easy walking distance from the Hall. Some of the architectural detail at the church seems to support a close connection with the Legh family. I’m sure we don’t wish to duplicate large amounts of material that can be easily accessed by mean of a blue link to the church. But perhaps the connection between the Hall and the church is relevant and should be made clearer, especially in the absense of a separate article for the Legh family. What do other editors think? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 10:22, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Well perhaps I relinked it after you removed it Pointy or what?:-) J3Mrs ( talk) 13:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
The article says: "The Fleetwood's daughter, Henrietta Maria, married Thomas Legh of Lyme Park and the estate passed to the Leghs." But what is this source for this claim?
This source [4] tells us that Thomas Legh (b. 1650, son of Richard Legh) married Elizabeth Fleetwood (b. about 1670, only daughter of Thomas Fleetwood of Bank) and had 15 children with her (none of whom were known to have been called Henrietta Maria). One of their children, Peter Legh (1706 - 1792), married Martha Benet 1708-1776) in about 1737, and this source [5] tells us that a Henrietta Maria (d. 1793) was in fact the daughter of Peter and Martha. Henrietta Maria Legh married Robert Vernon Atherton (see Atherton Hall).
So who was the Henrietta Maria who is said to have donated land, in 1719, for the building of St Mary's Church? Martinevans123 ( talk) 22:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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Please do not add every time the hall gets a mention on tv or in the press, it is supposed to be about the hall. Wentworth Castle which appeared in the programmes has a much more balanced approach, ie a single mention. Readers wishing to learn about the hall will get not want to see the constant highlighting of trivia. -- J3Mrs ( talk) 09:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
I thought i best bring this from Talk: Bank Hall to your page. If stating the facts and adding factual information is classed as promoting a topic then I guess half of wikipedia needs to be removed then... I and past editiors you mention have tried to add information that we know well and even provided references for, but cause it mentions two certain words in it and you dont know anything about it, then you think it is trying to promote it... so you remove it... i just wish someone would do this to you! you obviously have a big hang up about something. JMRH6 (talk) 21:44, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
The centre's own website didn't highlight the connection. The ref you gave said there were exhibitions in 2003 and 2006 so obviously out of date. This article doesn't need a spurious Bank Hall connection.-- J3Mrs ( talk) 12:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
The estate remains part of the Lilford Estates and is managed by a land agent, Acland Bracewell in Tarleton. Is this the case, or is there a separate Lilford Estate office? Very confusing. J3Mrs ( talk) 13:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
This may interest you on the subject, the Lions were from Atherton Hall and are now by the estate offices at Tarleton. http://www.leigh life.com/index.php?page=wiki&id=leighlife:lions_bridge wikipedia doesnt like the full link for some reason so i have had to add a space in the link I know its only a forum talk page but somebody has done their research! :) JMRH6 ( talk) 13:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
So the estate is managed by two different agents? The website you mention is not reliable. I am well aware the lions are from the Lion's Bridge at Atherton Hall but am not aware of how you know my interests unless you are a previous "conflict of interest" editor. J3Mrs ( talk) 15:04, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Once more trivia is being added. Pity. J3Mrs ( talk) 13:39, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I had assumed that the main image shows the front of the house. This is described throughout the text as the "south front", has the clock tower and faces the lawn. Two of the other images, however, are captioned "Legh Keck coat of arms above the front porch at Bank Hall" and "Diaper flushwork on a 1608 front elevation". But as far as I cab see, both of these features are situated on the opposite side of the house, facing the woodland, which appears to be the rear. Could anyone clarify? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 11:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Tarleton lies approximately one kilometre to the south of Bank Hall, just across the River Douglas. It is currently included in the article be means of fifteen words in the single sentence “In 1719 Henrietta Maria Legh donated land on which to build St Mary's Church, Tarleton.” The citation source [2] tells us that “She and her heirs were to have the nomination of the curate, with the approbation of the rector of Croston.” This detail is included at the article for the church. But do other editors feel it is also relevant here? I tried to add it, but another editor swiftly removed it with the edit summary: “Please keep this article focussed on the hall, the information is in the blue linked article.” I then tried to add a note giving the location of the church in relation to the Hall, but this was removed with the edit summary “pointless addition”. As there was never any chapel at the Hall, it seems very likely that the Legh family intended to use St Mary’s as their own “private church” as it was within very easy walking distance from the Hall. Some of the architectural detail at the church seems to support a close connection with the Legh family. I’m sure we don’t wish to duplicate large amounts of material that can be easily accessed by mean of a blue link to the church. But perhaps the connection between the Hall and the church is relevant and should be made clearer, especially in the absense of a separate article for the Legh family. What do other editors think? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 10:22, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Well perhaps I relinked it after you removed it Pointy or what?:-) J3Mrs ( talk) 13:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
The article says: "The Fleetwood's daughter, Henrietta Maria, married Thomas Legh of Lyme Park and the estate passed to the Leghs." But what is this source for this claim?
This source [4] tells us that Thomas Legh (b. 1650, son of Richard Legh) married Elizabeth Fleetwood (b. about 1670, only daughter of Thomas Fleetwood of Bank) and had 15 children with her (none of whom were known to have been called Henrietta Maria). One of their children, Peter Legh (1706 - 1792), married Martha Benet 1708-1776) in about 1737, and this source [5] tells us that a Henrietta Maria (d. 1793) was in fact the daughter of Peter and Martha. Henrietta Maria Legh married Robert Vernon Atherton (see Atherton Hall).
So who was the Henrietta Maria who is said to have donated land, in 1719, for the building of St Mary's Church? Martinevans123 ( talk) 22:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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