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Bambie thugs real name is (Redacted). 193.120.213.0 ( talk) 19:38, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
In relation to the above edit request, how sure are we that Bambie Thug's non-stage name is Cuntry Ray Robinson? Currently the article cites a blog, which likely wouldn't pass WP:RS. I know there's sources published after this article was created that state this, for example the Irish Independent, but I can't seem to find any reliable sources published prior to 24 January 2024 that mention it.
Only reason I'm wary is because of citogenesis, where we've published something as a fact, and other reliable sources have therefore republished it as a fact. Is there a reliable source that I'm missing that states this, published prior to the creation of our article? Sideswipe9th ( talk) 20:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Restarting the "real name" discussion as The Southern Star cites Thug's real name as (Redacted). Perhaps this is not relevant evidence, but a number of songs found online credited to Thug also cite an (Redacted) in its songwriting credits ( Ex. 1, Ex. 2, Ex. 3) Leaving this up for discussion in regards to inclusion in the article. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 04:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
In the case of a living transgender or non-binary person, their birth name or former name (professional name, stage name, or pseudonym) should be included in the lead sentence of their main biographical article only if they were notable under that name.Bambie was not notable under that name (song credits under a name do not convey notability, see Sophie (musician) for a similar example) and it should not be included. ser! ( chat to me - see my edits) 09:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
I would be more sympathetic if Thug was not still credited as a songwriter under this name.- they're listed under this name on three old releases that you've highlighted. They're not credited as thus on their recent EP, or the EP before that, or the EP before that, nor to the best of my knowledge any of the other singles. ser! ( chat to me - see my edits) 18:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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I dont understand, how many those Bambies are? Or this is one person? If so why it is written "they"? That is plural form, not singular. We should obey the rules of english grammar, so the people for whom english is not a first language will understand.
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Bambi Thug hasn't won Eurovision 2024, that's false information. 78.17.115.224 ( talk) 10:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Should the article state "Thug" instead of "Robinson" throughout the article, such as this section:
Robinson was born in Macroom, County Cork, on 6 March 1993, to a Swedish father from Stockholm and a mother from Cork, and has three sisters. [...] They then moved to London to attend the Urdang Academy after Urdang gave Robinson a partial scholarship. However, Robinson broke their arm during their time in college, switching to study musical theatre.
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Thug was born in Macroom, County Cork, on 6 March 1993, to a Swedish father from Stockholm and a mother from Cork, and has three sisters. [...] They then moved to London to attend the Urdang Academy after Urdang gave Thug a partial scholarship. However, Thug broke their arm during their time in college, switching to study musical theatre.
This would be similar to how (e.g.)
Lady Gaga's page mentions her as "Gaga", not "Germanotta" throughout her article.
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Does anyone have a reliable source for the religion of his parents or if he identified with any other religion before practicing neopagan witchcraft? 49.180.86.47 ( talk) 02:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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Bambie thugs real name is (Redacted). 193.120.213.0 ( talk) 19:38, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
In relation to the above edit request, how sure are we that Bambie Thug's non-stage name is Cuntry Ray Robinson? Currently the article cites a blog, which likely wouldn't pass WP:RS. I know there's sources published after this article was created that state this, for example the Irish Independent, but I can't seem to find any reliable sources published prior to 24 January 2024 that mention it.
Only reason I'm wary is because of citogenesis, where we've published something as a fact, and other reliable sources have therefore republished it as a fact. Is there a reliable source that I'm missing that states this, published prior to the creation of our article? Sideswipe9th ( talk) 20:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Restarting the "real name" discussion as The Southern Star cites Thug's real name as (Redacted). Perhaps this is not relevant evidence, but a number of songs found online credited to Thug also cite an (Redacted) in its songwriting credits ( Ex. 1, Ex. 2, Ex. 3) Leaving this up for discussion in regards to inclusion in the article. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 04:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
In the case of a living transgender or non-binary person, their birth name or former name (professional name, stage name, or pseudonym) should be included in the lead sentence of their main biographical article only if they were notable under that name.Bambie was not notable under that name (song credits under a name do not convey notability, see Sophie (musician) for a similar example) and it should not be included. ser! ( chat to me - see my edits) 09:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
I would be more sympathetic if Thug was not still credited as a songwriter under this name.- they're listed under this name on three old releases that you've highlighted. They're not credited as thus on their recent EP, or the EP before that, or the EP before that, nor to the best of my knowledge any of the other singles. ser! ( chat to me - see my edits) 18:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
References
I dont understand, how many those Bambies are? Or this is one person? If so why it is written "they"? That is plural form, not singular. We should obey the rules of english grammar, so the people for whom english is not a first language will understand.
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Bambi Thug hasn't won Eurovision 2024, that's false information. 78.17.115.224 ( talk) 10:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Should the article state "Thug" instead of "Robinson" throughout the article, such as this section:
Robinson was born in Macroom, County Cork, on 6 March 1993, to a Swedish father from Stockholm and a mother from Cork, and has three sisters. [...] They then moved to London to attend the Urdang Academy after Urdang gave Robinson a partial scholarship. However, Robinson broke their arm during their time in college, switching to study musical theatre.
be changed to
Thug was born in Macroom, County Cork, on 6 March 1993, to a Swedish father from Stockholm and a mother from Cork, and has three sisters. [...] They then moved to London to attend the Urdang Academy after Urdang gave Thug a partial scholarship. However, Thug broke their arm during their time in college, switching to study musical theatre.
This would be similar to how (e.g.)
Lady Gaga's page mentions her as "Gaga", not "Germanotta" throughout her article.
--
TattooedLeprechaun|
🗣️💬 22:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Does anyone have a reliable source for the religion of his parents or if he identified with any other religion before practicing neopagan witchcraft? 49.180.86.47 ( talk) 02:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)