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Leaflet Campaign
(new user) The comment regarding the UN firing 2.5 billion leaflets - enough to cover the Korean peninsula to a depth of 35 leaflets seems wrong. Even assuming a leaflet size of a sq ft, the 2.5 billion would fall quite short of one layer thick. James Colter — Preceding
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This is what the sources say. It's cited in Jung, Jin-Heon (2014).
"Ballooning Evangelism: Psychological Warfare and Christianity in the Divided Korea"(PDF). Max Planck Institute. MMG Working Paper. p. 16.
ISSN2192-2357. Jung attributes it to Yi [Lee], Im-hwa (2012). Chŏkŭl ppiraro mutŏra: hankuk chŏnjaeki mikukŭi simrijŏn [Bury the Enemy in the Leaflets: The Psychological Warfare of the United States in the Korean War] (in Korean). Seoul: Ch’ŏlsuwa Yŏngh. I find no reason to doubt this source and have not found any contradicting information. –
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The structure is quite confusing, though it might have made more sense in the original draft. There seems to be an overlap between "History" and later sections. North Korean campaigns seem to be an afterthought, but they are still interwoven at times: for example, in "Balloon contents". However, "Launch sites" does not mention balloons from North Korea at all. There certainly are balloons from the North, because they are mentioned in the sources I have just added in. Perhaps it would be better to separate the North from the South. Also, it doesn't make sense to class balloons from the North together with counter-measures against SK balloons as "counter-campaigns".--
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Poisoned socks etc
The article states that the North Korean regime is telling its citizens that the leaflets, socks etc are poisoned, and is intercepting the balloons and poisoning them. I don't think this is well-sourced. The Matador article by Sarah Shaw, an amateur journalist, doesn't seem a very good source. For example, she claims, "Socks are a precious commodity in the North, where the economy has completely collapsed and approximately 100,000 children are said to starve each year." This was written in 2012. No credible source says that. We go on to say that a pair of socks can be sold on the black market and feed a child for two months. I don't doubt that anti-NK groups say this, but I think we need better sources to make these kind of claims.--
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Leaflet Campaign
(new user) The comment regarding the UN firing 2.5 billion leaflets - enough to cover the Korean peninsula to a depth of 35 leaflets seems wrong. Even assuming a leaflet size of a sq ft, the 2.5 billion would fall quite short of one layer thick. James Colter — Preceding
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JimColter (
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12:43, 4 February 2016 (UTC)reply
This is what the sources say. It's cited in Jung, Jin-Heon (2014).
"Ballooning Evangelism: Psychological Warfare and Christianity in the Divided Korea"(PDF). Max Planck Institute. MMG Working Paper. p. 16.
ISSN2192-2357. Jung attributes it to Yi [Lee], Im-hwa (2012). Chŏkŭl ppiraro mutŏra: hankuk chŏnjaeki mikukŭi simrijŏn [Bury the Enemy in the Leaflets: The Psychological Warfare of the United States in the Korean War] (in Korean). Seoul: Ch’ŏlsuwa Yŏngh. I find no reason to doubt this source and have not found any contradicting information. –
Finnusertop (
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13:47, 4 February 2016 (UTC)reply
The structure is quite confusing, though it might have made more sense in the original draft. There seems to be an overlap between "History" and later sections. North Korean campaigns seem to be an afterthought, but they are still interwoven at times: for example, in "Balloon contents". However, "Launch sites" does not mention balloons from North Korea at all. There certainly are balloons from the North, because they are mentioned in the sources I have just added in. Perhaps it would be better to separate the North from the South. Also, it doesn't make sense to class balloons from the North together with counter-measures against SK balloons as "counter-campaigns".--
Jack Upland (
talk)
07:45, 19 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Poisoned socks etc
The article states that the North Korean regime is telling its citizens that the leaflets, socks etc are poisoned, and is intercepting the balloons and poisoning them. I don't think this is well-sourced. The Matador article by Sarah Shaw, an amateur journalist, doesn't seem a very good source. For example, she claims, "Socks are a precious commodity in the North, where the economy has completely collapsed and approximately 100,000 children are said to starve each year." This was written in 2012. No credible source says that. We go on to say that a pair of socks can be sold on the black market and feed a child for two months. I don't doubt that anti-NK groups say this, but I think we need better sources to make these kind of claims.--
Jack Upland (
talk)
08:07, 19 February 2017 (UTC)reply