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Hey, I've put a little note on the October 21 page to recognise Marty's arrival in the future. Anyone have some notes on the notability of the arrival/day/etc? Just thought it'd be amusing, and something good to note. Thanks! LHefferman ( talk) 16:56, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
My photo BackToTheFutureDayBoiseCosPlay.jpg was deleted as being not special, despite depicting cosplay on the day. Further photographs and citations are welcome for a gallery. kencf0618 ( talk) 07:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
everyone is going to celebrate a day that was clearly chosen purely randomly, and just illustrates a giant blunder?this is very clear due to the lack of one single bit of halloween flavor or acknowledgment in the film. The creators of the film clearly chose this date randomly. and this shines a spotlight on how they made a big mistake choosing oct 21st as the day the character went. they clearly were not mindful of the fact that during that season in time, there would be halloween decorations everywhere. even in 1955 im certain that halloween was still a widely celebrated holiday. this would be like them choosing randomly, december 21st 1955 for the character to go back, and then failing to remember to include any christmas decorations anywhere! clearly this just highlights what a giant blunder this was by randomly choosing oct21st. this just illistrates that 80's movies often did not pay much attention to details!
I think I may have found the source of the idea for bringing back an almanac from the future: Conflict (TV series) had an episode called " Man From 1997" (broadcast 1956 November 27). The protagonist, a poor immigrant janitor, is in love with a woman who does not want to marry a poor man. He buys the almanac and, after realizing it is from the future, decides to start betting on the horses and from there move on to other things so he can marry his love.
You can watch it on Youtube at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlxHUmzecE
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@ Tajotep: Why the undo on the paragraph->table of the Accolades section? I personally find it so much easier to read in a table than messy paragraphs. -- Lyverbe ( talk) 01:33, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
In Back to the future III they explain that the fusion machine powers the flux condenser. It isn't to make the car run. The text should be changed "to extract electric energy from food waste." 190.234.181.123 ( talk) 03:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Can someone confirm the bolded part? I watched the movie less than an hour ago, but don't remember that being stated explicitly. My suggested replacement (if "in America" is found to be speculation) is "Biff has [...] become extremely wealthy and corrupt". Glades12 ( talk) 18:50, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
I made several edits yesterday (mostly via hidden notes to minimize impact) to point out, using the history & structure of Major League Baseball as well as a name conflict with the Florida Gators, why anything resembling this movie's predicted 2015 World Series between the Chicago Cubs and the "Miami Gators" was all but impossible, whether in 1989 when there were no MLB teams in Florida, or in real-life 2015 when there were two such teams but the Miami Marlins (not "Gators") were in the National League together with the Cubs while only the Tampa Bay Rays (neither "Miami" nor "Gators") were in the American League as the World Series' own structure requires in order to face the Cubs -- or ever as it's extremely unlikely that either the Cubs or Marlins will ever move to the AL (or that the World Series itself will be restructured to permit a single-league match-up like NL Cubs vs. NL Marlins).
Instead of accepting my points it seems a revert war has been started against my edits (as well as some edits before mine), even though my edits were acknowledged as "good faith" by one of my opponents, because they’re seen by some as "trivial" (though they disprove the very premise behind its seemingly eerie prediction as to when the Cubs would finally win the World Series) and now "unsourced" (even though they are self-referenced by the facts I cited in my edits). First, User:Doniago claimed they were "(a) whole lot of trivia about one minor point"; I reverted that (with a minor fix to my earlier Texas Rangers link which was flagged by a bot as pointing to a disambig page instead of the baseball team) using basic undo, stating his explanation was even more trivial. Right after that, User:Masem started their multiple attacks on BOTH my edit AND earlier edits I had nothing to do with that, expanding on the earlier "trivia" claim by demanding "sources" that are "'specific' to BTTF Part II" even though that is absurd in ACTUAL context. (The only reason I didn't revert the last one was WP:3RR; I technically may have exceeded that as my attempt to rollback Masem's first revert was redirected to the intervening second one by RedWarn.)
My edits, in whole, are NOT trivial and do NOT require references (specific to BTTF II or otherwise) as they are backed by COLD, HARD FACTS about both MLB and sports in general. I won't argue if others agree that the other edits (some of which probably ARE trivial, such as the movie not catching more recent changes in the AT&T logo) should be removed, but I insist on MY edits. I need to back off anyway for unrelated reasons, but after any 24-hour period expires (due to 3RR or any 24-hour ban that might result from my technically exceeding it), I intend to restore my edits unless you can provide MORE SPECIFIC reasons WHY they're inappropriate that do NOT require unnecessary BTTF II-specific references. -- RBBrittain ( talk) 16:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Just for the record, I didn't restore it because I gave up on it shortly thereafter; I only mentioned any of that in case you used that technicality to drop a 24-hour ban hammer on me. I still consider your "trivia" claims inappropriate in the broader context, especially since (a) the Cubs' real-life World Series win was within a year of BTTF II's prediction, yet (b) BTTF II's predicted 2015 World Series match-up was never possible due to both team name (the University of Florida owns the trademark on "Gators") and league alignment (the Marlins were & still are in the National League like the Cubs, not the American League like ANY World Series opponent of either team under the format used for well over a century), much less the Marlins' poor record at that time. Nonetheless, I have much more important fish to fry than your petty revert war. -- RBBrittain ( talk) 17:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Someone keeps repeatedly, according to the history, changing dates in the article from 2015 to 2021. Perhaps it should be locked down to keep further vandalism from occurring? -- 2600:6C67:897F:EC43:A559:1B27:F76E:C7EE ( talk) 21:48, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Is this worth adding to the article? After rewatching, one of the most striking ‘predictions’ for me in Back to the Future Part 2 was the movie’s villain. Biff Tannen is directly inspired by Donald Trump, as outlined by the movie’s writer:
> Asked if Trump was on his mind during the writing process, he replied: “We thought about it when we made the movie! Are you kidding?”
> “You watch Part II again and there’s a scene where Marty confronts Biff in his office and there’s a huge portrait of Biff on the wall behind Biff, and there’s one moment where Biff kind of stands up and he takes exactly the same pose as the portrait? Yeah.”
The movie effectively predicted the rise of a corrupt gambling magnate to become the most powerful man in America - in the same year when it happened, considering President Trump launched his campaign for president in 2015. For me, this is one of the movie’s most impressive predictions, and well worth mentioning in the article. 109.38.132.213 ( talk) 18:46, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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So, about the recent expansion to the plot summary, I have a few questions.
Since Marty being easily goaded is a major theme in this film and Part III, is it relevant to mention Marty being called "chicken" in the summary? Also, what should we do regarding the climax (in this case, it's Marty retrieving the almanac from Biff)? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 16:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hey, I've put a little note on the October 21 page to recognise Marty's arrival in the future. Anyone have some notes on the notability of the arrival/day/etc? Just thought it'd be amusing, and something good to note. Thanks! LHefferman ( talk) 16:56, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
My photo BackToTheFutureDayBoiseCosPlay.jpg was deleted as being not special, despite depicting cosplay on the day. Further photographs and citations are welcome for a gallery. kencf0618 ( talk) 07:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
everyone is going to celebrate a day that was clearly chosen purely randomly, and just illustrates a giant blunder?this is very clear due to the lack of one single bit of halloween flavor or acknowledgment in the film. The creators of the film clearly chose this date randomly. and this shines a spotlight on how they made a big mistake choosing oct 21st as the day the character went. they clearly were not mindful of the fact that during that season in time, there would be halloween decorations everywhere. even in 1955 im certain that halloween was still a widely celebrated holiday. this would be like them choosing randomly, december 21st 1955 for the character to go back, and then failing to remember to include any christmas decorations anywhere! clearly this just highlights what a giant blunder this was by randomly choosing oct21st. this just illistrates that 80's movies often did not pay much attention to details!
I think I may have found the source of the idea for bringing back an almanac from the future: Conflict (TV series) had an episode called " Man From 1997" (broadcast 1956 November 27). The protagonist, a poor immigrant janitor, is in love with a woman who does not want to marry a poor man. He buys the almanac and, after realizing it is from the future, decides to start betting on the horses and from there move on to other things so he can marry his love.
You can watch it on Youtube at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlxHUmzecE
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@ Tajotep: Why the undo on the paragraph->table of the Accolades section? I personally find it so much easier to read in a table than messy paragraphs. -- Lyverbe ( talk) 01:33, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
In Back to the future III they explain that the fusion machine powers the flux condenser. It isn't to make the car run. The text should be changed "to extract electric energy from food waste." 190.234.181.123 ( talk) 03:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Can someone confirm the bolded part? I watched the movie less than an hour ago, but don't remember that being stated explicitly. My suggested replacement (if "in America" is found to be speculation) is "Biff has [...] become extremely wealthy and corrupt". Glades12 ( talk) 18:50, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
I made several edits yesterday (mostly via hidden notes to minimize impact) to point out, using the history & structure of Major League Baseball as well as a name conflict with the Florida Gators, why anything resembling this movie's predicted 2015 World Series between the Chicago Cubs and the "Miami Gators" was all but impossible, whether in 1989 when there were no MLB teams in Florida, or in real-life 2015 when there were two such teams but the Miami Marlins (not "Gators") were in the National League together with the Cubs while only the Tampa Bay Rays (neither "Miami" nor "Gators") were in the American League as the World Series' own structure requires in order to face the Cubs -- or ever as it's extremely unlikely that either the Cubs or Marlins will ever move to the AL (or that the World Series itself will be restructured to permit a single-league match-up like NL Cubs vs. NL Marlins).
Instead of accepting my points it seems a revert war has been started against my edits (as well as some edits before mine), even though my edits were acknowledged as "good faith" by one of my opponents, because they’re seen by some as "trivial" (though they disprove the very premise behind its seemingly eerie prediction as to when the Cubs would finally win the World Series) and now "unsourced" (even though they are self-referenced by the facts I cited in my edits). First, User:Doniago claimed they were "(a) whole lot of trivia about one minor point"; I reverted that (with a minor fix to my earlier Texas Rangers link which was flagged by a bot as pointing to a disambig page instead of the baseball team) using basic undo, stating his explanation was even more trivial. Right after that, User:Masem started their multiple attacks on BOTH my edit AND earlier edits I had nothing to do with that, expanding on the earlier "trivia" claim by demanding "sources" that are "'specific' to BTTF Part II" even though that is absurd in ACTUAL context. (The only reason I didn't revert the last one was WP:3RR; I technically may have exceeded that as my attempt to rollback Masem's first revert was redirected to the intervening second one by RedWarn.)
My edits, in whole, are NOT trivial and do NOT require references (specific to BTTF II or otherwise) as they are backed by COLD, HARD FACTS about both MLB and sports in general. I won't argue if others agree that the other edits (some of which probably ARE trivial, such as the movie not catching more recent changes in the AT&T logo) should be removed, but I insist on MY edits. I need to back off anyway for unrelated reasons, but after any 24-hour period expires (due to 3RR or any 24-hour ban that might result from my technically exceeding it), I intend to restore my edits unless you can provide MORE SPECIFIC reasons WHY they're inappropriate that do NOT require unnecessary BTTF II-specific references. -- RBBrittain ( talk) 16:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Just for the record, I didn't restore it because I gave up on it shortly thereafter; I only mentioned any of that in case you used that technicality to drop a 24-hour ban hammer on me. I still consider your "trivia" claims inappropriate in the broader context, especially since (a) the Cubs' real-life World Series win was within a year of BTTF II's prediction, yet (b) BTTF II's predicted 2015 World Series match-up was never possible due to both team name (the University of Florida owns the trademark on "Gators") and league alignment (the Marlins were & still are in the National League like the Cubs, not the American League like ANY World Series opponent of either team under the format used for well over a century), much less the Marlins' poor record at that time. Nonetheless, I have much more important fish to fry than your petty revert war. -- RBBrittain ( talk) 17:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Someone keeps repeatedly, according to the history, changing dates in the article from 2015 to 2021. Perhaps it should be locked down to keep further vandalism from occurring? -- 2600:6C67:897F:EC43:A559:1B27:F76E:C7EE ( talk) 21:48, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Is this worth adding to the article? After rewatching, one of the most striking ‘predictions’ for me in Back to the Future Part 2 was the movie’s villain. Biff Tannen is directly inspired by Donald Trump, as outlined by the movie’s writer:
> Asked if Trump was on his mind during the writing process, he replied: “We thought about it when we made the movie! Are you kidding?”
> “You watch Part II again and there’s a scene where Marty confronts Biff in his office and there’s a huge portrait of Biff on the wall behind Biff, and there’s one moment where Biff kind of stands up and he takes exactly the same pose as the portrait? Yeah.”
The movie effectively predicted the rise of a corrupt gambling magnate to become the most powerful man in America - in the same year when it happened, considering President Trump launched his campaign for president in 2015. For me, this is one of the movie’s most impressive predictions, and well worth mentioning in the article. 109.38.132.213 ( talk) 18:46, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Let it go.
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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 13:37, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
So, about the recent expansion to the plot summary, I have a few questions.
Since Marty being easily goaded is a major theme in this film and Part III, is it relevant to mention Marty being called "chicken" in the summary? Also, what should we do regarding the climax (in this case, it's Marty retrieving the almanac from Biff)? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 16:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)