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I have never heard this before, is this an American thing? I like BLT and I am not allergic to red meat. Google can find no other references to this. Edward
Just a quick comment to say that BLT sandwiches in Britain are quite often served on wholemeal bread rather than white. Loganberry ( Talk) 00:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to say that I can't believe this wasn't an article before and how glad I am that someone created it :) Isopropyl 04:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
At least in Britain, I've never heard of a BLT with cheese in it... Is this something special in the US (or elsewhere)? EAi 15:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I've never heard of putting cheese on a BLT, seems like its a personal preference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.238.174 ( talk) 23:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
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This should be on Alton Brown's page, or on the Good Eats page.
-- Phant 04:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not convinced. Is there something you could cite to support this claim? Bigpeteb 04:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay, my vote is to keep this section. It is interesting and adds to the article. It's not just a random "Trivia" section in my oppinion, and lots of articles have "In Popular Culture" sections. Captain Phoebus 17:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
This could be included as a variant, it's essentially the same sandwich, just without the bacon. I will add it if there are no objections.-- RLent ( talk) 17:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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The article mentions the BLT’s ordinal rank of popular sandwiches. If the BLT is second most popular, it would be helpful to say which sandwich beats it. For example, if someone were doing some research on what to put on a menu. Synetech ( talk) 12:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Per WP:LEAD: "Abbreviations and acronyms are generally avoided unless the subject is almost exclusively known by its abbreviation (e.g. NATO and Laser)."
I know that the sandwich is most often referred to as a BLT, but that doesn't mean it's exclusively known as this. This article should, in my opinion, be called "Bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich". Anyone else have an opinion about this? DKqwerty ( talk) 17:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
BLTs are the second most popular sandwich in the US after ham and cheese? Whoever wrote that is full of horse poop. Burgers are clearly also sandwiches (hence the original term, "Hamburger sandwich"), and anyone with common sense can tell that burgers are WAY more commonly eaten here than BLTs. Succubus MacAstaroth ( talk) 20:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I propose the article Bacon, Lettuce, and_Avocado be merged with this one. That article is short, the differences are insignificant. and I believe there is little room for development. Despite living in Philly, I've never even heard of the baseball playoff reference.
Further, a surprising number of people probably stumble onto that page because it is the first disambiguation listing for the search query, "bla".
If we want to move this to the 'BLA'page, there needs to be a lot more done with that page to make it more informative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DTBH ( talk • contribs) 07:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
I would prefer it be merged with bacon sandwich as it is a type of bacon sandwich not a variant of the BLT. Weetoddid ( talk) 00:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
The article does not say what the outcome was. Michael Hardy ( talk) 21:26, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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Regarding "Summer is traditionally a time when US consumers eat a lot of BLT" - now that we've went through the BRRD phase ;-) I'd posit that the statement isn't relevant as used anyway. The full quote is "There are several underlying reasons why pork prices might be high at the moment. (one such reason) Summer is traditionally a time when US consumers eat a lot of BLT – or bacon, lettuce and tomato – sandwiches, causing stockpiles of pork to fall." (emphasis and portion in parens are mine). Without more detail, it's simply a vague example of a possible cause with no indication given to the importance of that cause. So, quality of the cite aside, I don't see how/why such should be included in the article using that cite. It's (per its own wording) rather non-definitive and vague. Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/ CN 19:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Just a quick look through some online sources do confirm the idea of seasonal bacon prices
Perhaps a rewrite of the sentence to say - The popularity of BLT sandwiches is shown by the seasonal high demand and consequential rise in price of bacon during the summer, a period which coincides with tomato season. - I'd appreciate any thoughts. WormTT · ( talk) 21:15, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Well this has been an interesting night on the talk page. I feel the sentence is necessary as it clearly demonstrates the popularity of the sandwich - to the extent that it directly affects the price of the commodity, bacon. I've found 4 reliable sources which demonstrate that, which I'm happy to weave into the "green" sentence. The other sources were more for the interest of the talk page readers, to show further that BLTs are considered in future trading and the theory has been arond for a while. I'm open to rewording the sentence further and would be interested in any other opinions on how it should fit neutrally into the article. I should point out that KW does not think very highly of me due to a recent RfC I had to start regarding his behaviour and that I personally doubt his good faith in this matter, so I would like to see more comments from other editors. WormTT · ( talk) 08:53, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
I've written up my suggested addition to the popularity section.
The popularity of BLT sandwiches in the USA is shown by the seasonal high demand [1] and consequential rise in the price of bacon every summer, [2] a period which coincides with tomato season. [3]
- ^ Tuttle, Brad (5 July 2011). "Is It Time to Start Stockpiling Bacon". Time Magazine. Retrieved 28 November 2011.
- ^ Mason, Rowenna (15 August 2010). "Meat prices set to jump after wheat crop failures". The Telegraph. Retrieved 3 February 2011.
- ^ McFerron, Whitney (4 August 2010). "Bacon Price Surge May Last Through August as Herd Cutbacks Tighten Supply". Bloomberg.com. Retrieved 28 November 2011.
reading the discussion above, there does appear to be local consensus (with one editor objecting). I'd appreciate it if someone could add this sentance into the article, but if there's no objections in the next 24 hours, I'll do it myself. KW, if you still find this text significantly objectionable, let me know and I'll start up an RfC to get more eyes on the situation. WormTT · ( talk) 11:16, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
BLT sandwiches are popular especially in the summer, [1] following the tomato harvest. [2] The BLT-season is associated with an increase in the price of pork-bellies, which are processed into bacon. [3]
- ^ Tuttle, Brad (5 July 2011). "Is It Time to Start Stockpiling Bacon". Time Magazine. Retrieved 28 November 2011.
- ^ McFerron, Whitney (4 August 2010). "Bacon Price Surge May Last Through August as Herd Cutbacks Tighten Supply". Bloomberg.com. Retrieved 28 November 2011.
- ^ Mason, Rowenna (15 August 2010). "Meat prices set to jump after wheat crop failures". The Telegraph. Retrieved 3 February 2011.
Kiefer. Wolfowitz 17:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
The DYK and GA issues can be discussed in other fora.Here, we should focus on fixing the article.
This is the keypoint:
BLTs have negligible impact on pork prices, and nobody seriously blames increased pork prices on BLTs. There may well be seasonalities in the bacon market; that is a separate issue than the DYK claim. The impact of hydroponics and international tomato production probably have reduced the (?) yearly tomato-driven jiggle in bacon prices. Kiefer. Wolfowitz 05:08, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Here's why. Lengthy article, but I'm thinking BLT is an acronym for 'bacon lettuce tomato' and only appears where sandwiches containing predominately those ingredients are advertised for sale, for example on a menu, on the label of a sandwich wrapper, or in a newspaper advertisement. Other than that, so far as I can tell, there is no canonical BLT, neither are there BLTs. BLT is an acronym in a commercial context and relates to sandwiches. A lot of the article seems to concern itself with different ways to make sandwiches containing bacon, lettuce and tomato. All very yummy. However, I think people were sticking bacon, lettuce and tomato between slices of bread long before someone in a hurry wrote BLT on a menu. Hakluyt bean ( talk) 03:52, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
The reference link for the line about eggs goes to a one-sentence personal blog post. With no comments. It seems vastly insufficient to warrant being included in the article at all, let alone being portrayed as a matter of controversy. Gonna cut it. Spark240 ( talk) 20:27, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
there is much mention of mayonnaise. the first mention is that UK substituted a low fat mayo. so it is inferred that indeed, a BLT has 5 ingredients, not just 4.
jmarcv — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.92.157.252 ( talk) 01:51, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Is the "streaky" or "American style" bacon the standard, or is it subject to regional bacon variation such as "back" or "peameal" bacon? Someone should probably add something on that if there is. -- 24.212.139.102 ( talk) 22:27, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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I was surprised to see the suggestion here that BLTs may be toasted sandwiches. I have always known them as being on a fresh role, or even an un-toasted sandwich. Who the hell wants toasted lettuce, anyway. In Ireland, I have several times been given a "toasted BLT" that appears to have some horrid green slime inside that was probably once lettuce. TonyP ( talk) 13:37, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Have any other sources ever reported that Tony Blair's choice of BLT as his favorite sandwich "is loaded with political symbolism" Is the source enough for content about a living politician? I'm leaning towards removing this as non-encyclopedic gossipy trivia. Spudlace ( talk) 04:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
What's the abbreviation to that? Alexkrzywicki1 ( talk) 17:54, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
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I have never heard this before, is this an American thing? I like BLT and I am not allergic to red meat. Google can find no other references to this. Edward
Just a quick comment to say that BLT sandwiches in Britain are quite often served on wholemeal bread rather than white. Loganberry ( Talk) 00:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to say that I can't believe this wasn't an article before and how glad I am that someone created it :) Isopropyl 04:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
At least in Britain, I've never heard of a BLT with cheese in it... Is this something special in the US (or elsewhere)? EAi 15:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I've never heard of putting cheese on a BLT, seems like its a personal preference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.238.174 ( talk) 23:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, --- J.S ( t| c) 03:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
This should be on Alton Brown's page, or on the Good Eats page.
-- Phant 04:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not convinced. Is there something you could cite to support this claim? Bigpeteb 04:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay, my vote is to keep this section. It is interesting and adds to the article. It's not just a random "Trivia" section in my oppinion, and lots of articles have "In Popular Culture" sections. Captain Phoebus 17:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
This could be included as a variant, it's essentially the same sandwich, just without the bacon. I will add it if there are no objections.-- RLent ( talk) 17:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Entire article was deleted and Pornographic links were put instead, by an anonymous user. Any admins please make note of this, and carry out ip-banning measures. The ip is 85.92.73.245 ( talk) 18:46, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
The article mentions the BLT’s ordinal rank of popular sandwiches. If the BLT is second most popular, it would be helpful to say which sandwich beats it. For example, if someone were doing some research on what to put on a menu. Synetech ( talk) 12:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Per WP:LEAD: "Abbreviations and acronyms are generally avoided unless the subject is almost exclusively known by its abbreviation (e.g. NATO and Laser)."
I know that the sandwich is most often referred to as a BLT, but that doesn't mean it's exclusively known as this. This article should, in my opinion, be called "Bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich". Anyone else have an opinion about this? DKqwerty ( talk) 17:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
BLTs are the second most popular sandwich in the US after ham and cheese? Whoever wrote that is full of horse poop. Burgers are clearly also sandwiches (hence the original term, "Hamburger sandwich"), and anyone with common sense can tell that burgers are WAY more commonly eaten here than BLTs. Succubus MacAstaroth ( talk) 20:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I propose the article Bacon, Lettuce, and_Avocado be merged with this one. That article is short, the differences are insignificant. and I believe there is little room for development. Despite living in Philly, I've never even heard of the baseball playoff reference.
Further, a surprising number of people probably stumble onto that page because it is the first disambiguation listing for the search query, "bla".
If we want to move this to the 'BLA'page, there needs to be a lot more done with that page to make it more informative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DTBH ( talk • contribs) 07:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
I would prefer it be merged with bacon sandwich as it is a type of bacon sandwich not a variant of the BLT. Weetoddid ( talk) 00:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
The article does not say what the outcome was. Michael Hardy ( talk) 21:26, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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Regarding "Summer is traditionally a time when US consumers eat a lot of BLT" - now that we've went through the BRRD phase ;-) I'd posit that the statement isn't relevant as used anyway. The full quote is "There are several underlying reasons why pork prices might be high at the moment. (one such reason) Summer is traditionally a time when US consumers eat a lot of BLT – or bacon, lettuce and tomato – sandwiches, causing stockpiles of pork to fall." (emphasis and portion in parens are mine). Without more detail, it's simply a vague example of a possible cause with no indication given to the importance of that cause. So, quality of the cite aside, I don't see how/why such should be included in the article using that cite. It's (per its own wording) rather non-definitive and vague. Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/ CN 19:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Just a quick look through some online sources do confirm the idea of seasonal bacon prices
Perhaps a rewrite of the sentence to say - The popularity of BLT sandwiches is shown by the seasonal high demand and consequential rise in price of bacon during the summer, a period which coincides with tomato season. - I'd appreciate any thoughts. WormTT · ( talk) 21:15, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Well this has been an interesting night on the talk page. I feel the sentence is necessary as it clearly demonstrates the popularity of the sandwich - to the extent that it directly affects the price of the commodity, bacon. I've found 4 reliable sources which demonstrate that, which I'm happy to weave into the "green" sentence. The other sources were more for the interest of the talk page readers, to show further that BLTs are considered in future trading and the theory has been arond for a while. I'm open to rewording the sentence further and would be interested in any other opinions on how it should fit neutrally into the article. I should point out that KW does not think very highly of me due to a recent RfC I had to start regarding his behaviour and that I personally doubt his good faith in this matter, so I would like to see more comments from other editors. WormTT · ( talk) 08:53, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
I've written up my suggested addition to the popularity section.
The popularity of BLT sandwiches in the USA is shown by the seasonal high demand [1] and consequential rise in the price of bacon every summer, [2] a period which coincides with tomato season. [3]
- ^ Tuttle, Brad (5 July 2011). "Is It Time to Start Stockpiling Bacon". Time Magazine. Retrieved 28 November 2011.
- ^ Mason, Rowenna (15 August 2010). "Meat prices set to jump after wheat crop failures". The Telegraph. Retrieved 3 February 2011.
- ^ McFerron, Whitney (4 August 2010). "Bacon Price Surge May Last Through August as Herd Cutbacks Tighten Supply". Bloomberg.com. Retrieved 28 November 2011.
reading the discussion above, there does appear to be local consensus (with one editor objecting). I'd appreciate it if someone could add this sentance into the article, but if there's no objections in the next 24 hours, I'll do it myself. KW, if you still find this text significantly objectionable, let me know and I'll start up an RfC to get more eyes on the situation. WormTT · ( talk) 11:16, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
BLT sandwiches are popular especially in the summer, [1] following the tomato harvest. [2] The BLT-season is associated with an increase in the price of pork-bellies, which are processed into bacon. [3]
- ^ Tuttle, Brad (5 July 2011). "Is It Time to Start Stockpiling Bacon". Time Magazine. Retrieved 28 November 2011.
- ^ McFerron, Whitney (4 August 2010). "Bacon Price Surge May Last Through August as Herd Cutbacks Tighten Supply". Bloomberg.com. Retrieved 28 November 2011.
- ^ Mason, Rowenna (15 August 2010). "Meat prices set to jump after wheat crop failures". The Telegraph. Retrieved 3 February 2011.
Kiefer. Wolfowitz 17:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
The DYK and GA issues can be discussed in other fora.Here, we should focus on fixing the article.
This is the keypoint:
BLTs have negligible impact on pork prices, and nobody seriously blames increased pork prices on BLTs. There may well be seasonalities in the bacon market; that is a separate issue than the DYK claim. The impact of hydroponics and international tomato production probably have reduced the (?) yearly tomato-driven jiggle in bacon prices. Kiefer. Wolfowitz 05:08, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Here's why. Lengthy article, but I'm thinking BLT is an acronym for 'bacon lettuce tomato' and only appears where sandwiches containing predominately those ingredients are advertised for sale, for example on a menu, on the label of a sandwich wrapper, or in a newspaper advertisement. Other than that, so far as I can tell, there is no canonical BLT, neither are there BLTs. BLT is an acronym in a commercial context and relates to sandwiches. A lot of the article seems to concern itself with different ways to make sandwiches containing bacon, lettuce and tomato. All very yummy. However, I think people were sticking bacon, lettuce and tomato between slices of bread long before someone in a hurry wrote BLT on a menu. Hakluyt bean ( talk) 03:52, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
The reference link for the line about eggs goes to a one-sentence personal blog post. With no comments. It seems vastly insufficient to warrant being included in the article at all, let alone being portrayed as a matter of controversy. Gonna cut it. Spark240 ( talk) 20:27, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
there is much mention of mayonnaise. the first mention is that UK substituted a low fat mayo. so it is inferred that indeed, a BLT has 5 ingredients, not just 4.
jmarcv — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.92.157.252 ( talk) 01:51, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Is the "streaky" or "American style" bacon the standard, or is it subject to regional bacon variation such as "back" or "peameal" bacon? Someone should probably add something on that if there is. -- 24.212.139.102 ( talk) 22:27, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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I was surprised to see the suggestion here that BLTs may be toasted sandwiches. I have always known them as being on a fresh role, or even an un-toasted sandwich. Who the hell wants toasted lettuce, anyway. In Ireland, I have several times been given a "toasted BLT" that appears to have some horrid green slime inside that was probably once lettuce. TonyP ( talk) 13:37, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Have any other sources ever reported that Tony Blair's choice of BLT as his favorite sandwich "is loaded with political symbolism" Is the source enough for content about a living politician? I'm leaning towards removing this as non-encyclopedic gossipy trivia. Spudlace ( talk) 04:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
What's the abbreviation to that? Alexkrzywicki1 ( talk) 17:54, 20 August 2022 (UTC)