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I forgot to log in, but the translation was definitely mine... sorry-- VeronikaMM ( talk) 13:57, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I’ve added a reference to Keynsian economics. What the British economist Keynes wrote is relevant here. Barbara Shack ( talk) 11:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I’ve added material from the German Wikipedia article, Juliputsch. The German text refers to that article. Barbara Shack ( talk) 13:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Anhaltelager explains imprisonnment without trial. Barbara Shack ( talk) 15:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I’ve added a small amount from the German Wikipedia articles, Staatsrat (Österreich) & Juliabkommen. This shows that the Staatsrat was a Legislative Council. Barbara Shack ( talk) 10:16, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I find it somehow hard to understand what this article might have to do with Vergangenheitsbewältigung. Isn't Vergangenheitsbewältigung about Germany and some other countries coming to terms with their Nazi past? I've also taken a look at the German article which seems to be quite long and, correct me if I'm wrong, unfortunately rather unreferenced. I mean there are only like 17 footnotes... How are you translators going to handle this? It could be become a problem leading to someone inserting this: citation needed In the introduction to the article we learn that the Nazi reign reign in Austria lasted from 1938 to spring 1945. Yet the first chapters extensively describe the prewar or rather post-war situation after Austria-Hungary had ended and Austria had become an independent republic in 1918. Again I may be wrong, but shouldn't the article rather focus on its actual topic? My impression is that the article wanders from the subject. Maybe some parts could be included elsewhere. There are the following articles: First Austrian Republic, Austrofascism, Anschluss. I must say I wouldn't like the idea of having the exact same or similar content partially repeated with slight differences in ultimately four articles. This would be sort of ridiculous, especially given the fact that up to now there is not a single article extensively depicting Austrian history after WWII. Sorry for bothering you, maybe you're planning to do the translation first, deciding about how to proceed later on. I just thought it would be fair to voice my concerns in a timely manner so that you may consider them. -- Catgut ( talk) 20:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I know this might not be the perfect place to add this, but whoever wants to join in translating this article, I think it only makes sense if one person is working on one section at a time, otherwise it gets really confusing. It is a very long article and there is plenty to be translated, so please always start out with a new (sub-)section once you are done with one, not with one, that someone has already started with. I think it also gives a much better flow in reading a section at a time. I know things are going to edited again and again, but several people working on the same part usually doesn't work out too well... Thanks-- VeronikaMM ( talk) 22:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
This is the title of a series of over 200 photographs produced in 1938, distributed in Austria as a premium with packs of cigarettes shortly after the Anschluss. A commemorative album with companion texts was available for purchase at tobacconists for the token sum of one Reichmark. Subjects of the photos and their brief captions: Nazi party history and major events, its conflicts with the Left in the early decades of the 20th C., and popular support for Adolf Hitler as a leader. My question:
Thank you -- Deborahjay ( talk) 13:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Further difficulty, in light of the above offerings: * Is Großdeutschland to be understood as a proto-geopolitical entity, ideological concept, or what? This pertains to capitalization, indefinite article, and "scare quotes":
This is the translation of an archival document, so I'm trying to capture the author/publisher's intent. -- Deborahjay ( talk) 20:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
this reddit entry cites quite a number references and seems to paint a much more differentiated picture than this article, besides stating the "austrian X% of" numbers are wrong. -- ThurnerRupert ( talk) 02:50, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't have the reference, but I'm concerned about the sentence "Overall 200,000 people died at the camp, roughly half of whom were killed. [1]" What are we counting as "killed"? If someone is held captive and dies from malnutrition or is forced to labor in extreme conditions and dies as a result, that person has no less been "killed" than if they were put in a gas chamber. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 13:34, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
High time time to bring this article closer to the GA status German-language version https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96sterreich_in_der_Zeit_des_Nationalsozialismus
The title there is Österreich in der Zeit des Nationalsozialismus, which has a different meaning and is more accurate than Austria under National Socialism. In English, Austria in the time of National Socialism is clunky and Nazi Austria would be my preference. Thoughts? - Applefall ( talk) 05:51, 19 March 2020 (UTC) 05:49, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Nazism is an ideology, not a country.
I think the title should be changed to, "Austria under Nazi Germany". That makes it less ambigous. Nowy Prywaciarz ( talk) 21:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
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I forgot to log in, but the translation was definitely mine... sorry-- VeronikaMM ( talk) 13:57, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I’ve added a reference to Keynsian economics. What the British economist Keynes wrote is relevant here. Barbara Shack ( talk) 11:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I’ve added material from the German Wikipedia article, Juliputsch. The German text refers to that article. Barbara Shack ( talk) 13:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Anhaltelager explains imprisonnment without trial. Barbara Shack ( talk) 15:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I’ve added a small amount from the German Wikipedia articles, Staatsrat (Österreich) & Juliabkommen. This shows that the Staatsrat was a Legislative Council. Barbara Shack ( talk) 10:16, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I find it somehow hard to understand what this article might have to do with Vergangenheitsbewältigung. Isn't Vergangenheitsbewältigung about Germany and some other countries coming to terms with their Nazi past? I've also taken a look at the German article which seems to be quite long and, correct me if I'm wrong, unfortunately rather unreferenced. I mean there are only like 17 footnotes... How are you translators going to handle this? It could be become a problem leading to someone inserting this: citation needed In the introduction to the article we learn that the Nazi reign reign in Austria lasted from 1938 to spring 1945. Yet the first chapters extensively describe the prewar or rather post-war situation after Austria-Hungary had ended and Austria had become an independent republic in 1918. Again I may be wrong, but shouldn't the article rather focus on its actual topic? My impression is that the article wanders from the subject. Maybe some parts could be included elsewhere. There are the following articles: First Austrian Republic, Austrofascism, Anschluss. I must say I wouldn't like the idea of having the exact same or similar content partially repeated with slight differences in ultimately four articles. This would be sort of ridiculous, especially given the fact that up to now there is not a single article extensively depicting Austrian history after WWII. Sorry for bothering you, maybe you're planning to do the translation first, deciding about how to proceed later on. I just thought it would be fair to voice my concerns in a timely manner so that you may consider them. -- Catgut ( talk) 20:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I know this might not be the perfect place to add this, but whoever wants to join in translating this article, I think it only makes sense if one person is working on one section at a time, otherwise it gets really confusing. It is a very long article and there is plenty to be translated, so please always start out with a new (sub-)section once you are done with one, not with one, that someone has already started with. I think it also gives a much better flow in reading a section at a time. I know things are going to edited again and again, but several people working on the same part usually doesn't work out too well... Thanks-- VeronikaMM ( talk) 22:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
This is the title of a series of over 200 photographs produced in 1938, distributed in Austria as a premium with packs of cigarettes shortly after the Anschluss. A commemorative album with companion texts was available for purchase at tobacconists for the token sum of one Reichmark. Subjects of the photos and their brief captions: Nazi party history and major events, its conflicts with the Left in the early decades of the 20th C., and popular support for Adolf Hitler as a leader. My question:
Thank you -- Deborahjay ( talk) 13:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Further difficulty, in light of the above offerings: * Is Großdeutschland to be understood as a proto-geopolitical entity, ideological concept, or what? This pertains to capitalization, indefinite article, and "scare quotes":
This is the translation of an archival document, so I'm trying to capture the author/publisher's intent. -- Deborahjay ( talk) 20:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
this reddit entry cites quite a number references and seems to paint a much more differentiated picture than this article, besides stating the "austrian X% of" numbers are wrong. -- ThurnerRupert ( talk) 02:50, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't have the reference, but I'm concerned about the sentence "Overall 200,000 people died at the camp, roughly half of whom were killed. [1]" What are we counting as "killed"? If someone is held captive and dies from malnutrition or is forced to labor in extreme conditions and dies as a result, that person has no less been "killed" than if they were put in a gas chamber. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 13:34, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
High time time to bring this article closer to the GA status German-language version https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96sterreich_in_der_Zeit_des_Nationalsozialismus
The title there is Österreich in der Zeit des Nationalsozialismus, which has a different meaning and is more accurate than Austria under National Socialism. In English, Austria in the time of National Socialism is clunky and Nazi Austria would be my preference. Thoughts? - Applefall ( talk) 05:51, 19 March 2020 (UTC) 05:49, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Nazism is an ideology, not a country.
I think the title should be changed to, "Austria under Nazi Germany". That makes it less ambigous. Nowy Prywaciarz ( talk) 21:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)