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Most of Auditory_system#Structure is word-for-word identical to Chapter 4 of The 4S Handbook. Selective Sound Sensitivity Syndrome.. There's also sections which are very similar to Page 95 in Human Physiology. It's clear that somebody has been copying from somebody else, but I can't tell if we're the violators, or the source for those books. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:38, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
The content here is very useful, but I think it would be helpful to split out some of the details onto the pages for the specific anatomical structures. Would anybody object if I did that? -- Arcadian 15:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
yes it would be useful for persons who need a general information about the structure of ear — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.230.103.239 ( talk) 09:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
This page has sections which are ungrammatical, innacurate and contain references to figures that don't seem to exist... what's going on?!
The just-changed statement about the ear canal amplifying a range of frequencies needs a reference. I'm going to revert the change pending a citation. Also, it should be rephrased to indicate what is meant by "amplifies" here; probaby it's a pressure increase, not a power increase; a reference should clarify. Dicklyon 04:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Auditory brain center is a nearly-linkless article, which may have some contents worth merging in here. Seems like a no-brainer, but please comment if you support or oppose merging it. Dicklyon 07:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC) ĻĻĹĹÓÓ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.8.131.130 ( talk) 15:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
to Dicklyon: yep, will do. Will clean up the other sensory systems first.
Name | Function | ||
---|---|---|---|
Ear canal | Is a tube running from the outer ear(pinna) to the middle ear(ear drum) and in humans is about 35 mm in length and 5 to 10 mm in diameter. | ||
Tympanic_membrane | Commonly known as the eardrum, is a membrane made of skin and collagen fibres. Located between the external ear and middle ear, its function is to transmit sound from the air to the ossicles. | ||
Ossicles | Malleus | Is the hammer shaped bone that transmits sound vibrations to the incus. | |
Incus | Is the anvil shaped bone that transmits sound vibrations from the malleus to the stapes. | ||
Stapes | Is a stirrup shaped bone that is the smallest and lightest bone in the human body. It is attached between the incus and the Fenestra ovalis. | ||
Fenestra_ovalis | Also known as the oval-window. It is a membrane that is directly connected to the staples and it separates the middle ear from the inner ear. | ||
Labyrinth_(inner_ear) | Cochlea | Auditory portion of the inner ear. It is filled with a watery fluid and tiny hairs. It is via these hairs that sound is transformed into electrical impulses that go to the brain. | |
Vestibular_system | Main component in regards to balance and movement. | ||
Vestibulocochlear_Nerve | Cochlear_nerve | Is the nerve that carries signals from the cochlea, in the inner ear, to the brain. | |
Vestibular_nerve | Carries information about balance from the Vestibular_ganglion to the Pons and Medulla in the Brain. | ||
Primary_auditory_cortex | Located in the temporal lobe. Processes hearing, pitch and volume. |
Regarding these proposed tables, editors might like to follow the discussion here Famousdog ( talk) 10:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
I deleted the recent additions to the lead for a few reasons.
But I do think the lead should be expanded, and maybe a better and more complete diagram would be in order. Does anyone have any ideas?
Eflatmajor7th ( talk) 01:04, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Eflatmajor 7th and I may have many differences of opinion concerning detailed anatomy, depending on our previous investigations and the terminology of the groups we come from. Some of the tissue involved is very near the junction of the temporal lobe and the MGN. As far as peer-review, the material I loaded was presented at an International Conference at Keele, Great Britain a few years ago and published in the record of that conference, "Concepts and Challenges in The Biophysics of Hearing" by Cooper & Kemp, 2009. I had added several citations to the work after your first deletion and they were the only citations to the whole Wiki except for a figure from Meddean (which was from an "unpublished" web site) and a 12 year old, but otherwise good, fourth edition of an introductory textbook by Kandel designed for undergraduates and medical students.
The citations I introduced were from my published book, Hearing: A 21st Century Paradigm, 2008, Bloomington, IN: Trafford
There is so much more information available in the published literature related to the system aspects of the Auditory system than the rather elementary material in this Wiki, it is a shame if must remain so elementary. I do not have the time to play at that level. Steamboat Jim ( talk) 03:53, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I think the present lead image would serve much better as an image for the auditory periphery section. A more comprehensive image is more desirable for the lead. Does anyone have anything that would be a good comprehensive image of the auditory system? I found this image which I thought was pretty good:
http://emcap.iua.upf.edu/BasicsAuditorySystem.jpg
But I think it is under copyright, Netter Images. Are we able to use this image at all, or do we need to make one ourselves, or find one in the public domain? Eflatmajor7th ( talk) 07:47, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I have proposed to merge Neuronal encoding of sound here. Rationale: Both articles cover the same subject. Neuronal encoding of sound has some problems. It reads like a seminar paper and contains information that should not go into an encyclopedic article (e.g. preliminary remarks on acoustics). The content is somewhat problematic, too. Instead of a rewrite it would make much sense to integrate the useful parts that are not redundant into Auditory system (which can easily be seen as the more general term that also covers more obviously the non-neural encoding aspects like outer, middle, inner ear mechanics etc.). Kind regards, 㓟 ( talk) 20:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
The page is called "auditory system" but it is only about the human auditory system, not any others. I propose it be renamed "human auditory system" and "auditory system" be for animal auditory systems generally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.118.94.167 ( talk) 23:55, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
it would be useful if a seperate article for simple outlook of the general structure of ear is available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.230.103.239 ( talk) 09:14, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Have placed this at the end of the page before Clinical significance. This section was recently added by a new editor who clearly hadn't looked into the Wiki guidelines. The references provided are not entered up correctly and some may not even be suitable; there is a repetition of certain bits of information; there is a lot of content completely uncited. Have placed this section further down, still keeping the heading but treating it more as a summary. The section is in real need of attention. No links at all are provided and it is quite badly written up. But there may be useful content to retrieve. Let's see if it can be made good. Or it may be felt that it should be removed for improvement first.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 20:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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Most of Auditory_system#Structure is word-for-word identical to Chapter 4 of The 4S Handbook. Selective Sound Sensitivity Syndrome.. There's also sections which are very similar to Page 95 in Human Physiology. It's clear that somebody has been copying from somebody else, but I can't tell if we're the violators, or the source for those books. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:38, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
The content here is very useful, but I think it would be helpful to split out some of the details onto the pages for the specific anatomical structures. Would anybody object if I did that? -- Arcadian 15:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
yes it would be useful for persons who need a general information about the structure of ear — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.230.103.239 ( talk) 09:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
This page has sections which are ungrammatical, innacurate and contain references to figures that don't seem to exist... what's going on?!
The just-changed statement about the ear canal amplifying a range of frequencies needs a reference. I'm going to revert the change pending a citation. Also, it should be rephrased to indicate what is meant by "amplifies" here; probaby it's a pressure increase, not a power increase; a reference should clarify. Dicklyon 04:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Auditory brain center is a nearly-linkless article, which may have some contents worth merging in here. Seems like a no-brainer, but please comment if you support or oppose merging it. Dicklyon 07:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC) ĻĻĹĹÓÓ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.8.131.130 ( talk) 15:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
to Dicklyon: yep, will do. Will clean up the other sensory systems first.
Name | Function | ||
---|---|---|---|
Ear canal | Is a tube running from the outer ear(pinna) to the middle ear(ear drum) and in humans is about 35 mm in length and 5 to 10 mm in diameter. | ||
Tympanic_membrane | Commonly known as the eardrum, is a membrane made of skin and collagen fibres. Located between the external ear and middle ear, its function is to transmit sound from the air to the ossicles. | ||
Ossicles | Malleus | Is the hammer shaped bone that transmits sound vibrations to the incus. | |
Incus | Is the anvil shaped bone that transmits sound vibrations from the malleus to the stapes. | ||
Stapes | Is a stirrup shaped bone that is the smallest and lightest bone in the human body. It is attached between the incus and the Fenestra ovalis. | ||
Fenestra_ovalis | Also known as the oval-window. It is a membrane that is directly connected to the staples and it separates the middle ear from the inner ear. | ||
Labyrinth_(inner_ear) | Cochlea | Auditory portion of the inner ear. It is filled with a watery fluid and tiny hairs. It is via these hairs that sound is transformed into electrical impulses that go to the brain. | |
Vestibular_system | Main component in regards to balance and movement. | ||
Vestibulocochlear_Nerve | Cochlear_nerve | Is the nerve that carries signals from the cochlea, in the inner ear, to the brain. | |
Vestibular_nerve | Carries information about balance from the Vestibular_ganglion to the Pons and Medulla in the Brain. | ||
Primary_auditory_cortex | Located in the temporal lobe. Processes hearing, pitch and volume. |
Regarding these proposed tables, editors might like to follow the discussion here Famousdog ( talk) 10:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
I deleted the recent additions to the lead for a few reasons.
But I do think the lead should be expanded, and maybe a better and more complete diagram would be in order. Does anyone have any ideas?
Eflatmajor7th ( talk) 01:04, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Eflatmajor 7th and I may have many differences of opinion concerning detailed anatomy, depending on our previous investigations and the terminology of the groups we come from. Some of the tissue involved is very near the junction of the temporal lobe and the MGN. As far as peer-review, the material I loaded was presented at an International Conference at Keele, Great Britain a few years ago and published in the record of that conference, "Concepts and Challenges in The Biophysics of Hearing" by Cooper & Kemp, 2009. I had added several citations to the work after your first deletion and they were the only citations to the whole Wiki except for a figure from Meddean (which was from an "unpublished" web site) and a 12 year old, but otherwise good, fourth edition of an introductory textbook by Kandel designed for undergraduates and medical students.
The citations I introduced were from my published book, Hearing: A 21st Century Paradigm, 2008, Bloomington, IN: Trafford
There is so much more information available in the published literature related to the system aspects of the Auditory system than the rather elementary material in this Wiki, it is a shame if must remain so elementary. I do not have the time to play at that level. Steamboat Jim ( talk) 03:53, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I think the present lead image would serve much better as an image for the auditory periphery section. A more comprehensive image is more desirable for the lead. Does anyone have anything that would be a good comprehensive image of the auditory system? I found this image which I thought was pretty good:
http://emcap.iua.upf.edu/BasicsAuditorySystem.jpg
But I think it is under copyright, Netter Images. Are we able to use this image at all, or do we need to make one ourselves, or find one in the public domain? Eflatmajor7th ( talk) 07:47, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I have proposed to merge Neuronal encoding of sound here. Rationale: Both articles cover the same subject. Neuronal encoding of sound has some problems. It reads like a seminar paper and contains information that should not go into an encyclopedic article (e.g. preliminary remarks on acoustics). The content is somewhat problematic, too. Instead of a rewrite it would make much sense to integrate the useful parts that are not redundant into Auditory system (which can easily be seen as the more general term that also covers more obviously the non-neural encoding aspects like outer, middle, inner ear mechanics etc.). Kind regards, 㓟 ( talk) 20:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
The page is called "auditory system" but it is only about the human auditory system, not any others. I propose it be renamed "human auditory system" and "auditory system" be for animal auditory systems generally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.118.94.167 ( talk) 23:55, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
it would be useful if a seperate article for simple outlook of the general structure of ear is available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.230.103.239 ( talk) 09:14, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Have placed this at the end of the page before Clinical significance. This section was recently added by a new editor who clearly hadn't looked into the Wiki guidelines. The references provided are not entered up correctly and some may not even be suitable; there is a repetition of certain bits of information; there is a lot of content completely uncited. Have placed this section further down, still keeping the heading but treating it more as a summary. The section is in real need of attention. No links at all are provided and it is quite badly written up. But there may be useful content to retrieve. Let's see if it can be made good. Or it may be felt that it should be removed for improvement first.-- Iztwoz ( talk) 20:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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