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Here are sources outlining lists of Asia-Pacific countries. Clearly South Asia and Russia are included:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/apac-countries 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 2600:1011:B07C:E3F4:F406:9F2B:25D9:7271 ( talk) 13:20, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
1) Why are these countries listed as "may also include"? The term Asia-Pacific refers to the Pacific region that is on the side of Asia/Aus/NZ, hence "Asia-Pacific".
These countries are not included:
* California * Chile * Colombia * Costa Rica * Ecuador * El Salvador * Guatemala * Hawaii * Honduras * Mexico * Nicaragua * Panama * Peru
Please approve so we can apply the changes to this article.
2) Asia-Pacific should be written with a dash, as it is a bi-word denoting the Asia-Pacific region. The "Asia Pacific" without a dash is not used and is actually avoided as it may confuse people as to the meaning. It is similar in writing "South-East" not "South East". Please approve so we can apply the change to this article.
- "Asia-Pacific" is a rather absurd geographical descriptor. It's like creating a "Europe-North Africa" region based on economic exchanges. In reality, the term "Asia-Pacific" does not enjoy wide usage. Rather, it is an artificial construct only used by academics and some politicians in Australia and New Zealand. ZwickauDeluxe 13:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello User!
I'm interested in your suggestions, but this article isn't about the countries that's not included.
Thank you, Kiera Wikipedia User
Ok 11KieraPublisher ( talk) 18:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
As per the generally accepted map, shown in the infobox, Afghanistan, Mongolia and parts of Russia may also be included in the Asia-Pacific (show in light green color on the map). However, these are not the core Asia-Pacific countries. Khestwol ( talk) 15:42, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I have removed the Iran note because Iran is never considered to be a part of South Asia apart from the UN definition. No organisation or people who live in South Asia consider Iran to be geographically, politically or culturally a part of South Asia and I think it's wise to stick to the traditional definition of the region. One definition from an organisation that is not based in South Asia proper should yield a note. Speaking of definitions, Afghanistan too is not considered to be a part of South Asia from a South Asian perspective (e.g. official definition of South Asia from SAARC).
About the Third Opinion request: The request made at Third Opinion has been removed (i.e. declined). The request as stated there was about user conduct and 3O does not issue opinions about user conduct. Moreover, like all other moderated content dispute resolution venues at Wikipedia, Third Opinion requires thorough talk page discussion before seeking assistance. So far what's been said here is mainly about conduct and procedure, with very little discussion about why the edit is good or bad and certainly no content discussion which is thorough. IP editor: If you want to avoid discussions about whether additions to talk pages under different IP addresses are the same or different people, register an account. Otherwise the question of whether sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry is occurring is often going to be relevant. Regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 19:53, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
@ 2001:8003:9008:1301:d966:b4c7:e4bc:8bc1: Firstly, your behaviour is completely atrocious and inappropriate. You do not harass and attack fellow editors. Secondly, do not judge my edits without understanding the context and claim that I鈥檓 spamming Wikipedia because that is not what I鈥檓 doing. My edit about Singapore is because Singapore is not part of the East Asian Cultural Sphere. To claim no Singaporean will not agree with my edit makes no sense because you鈥檙e most likely not Singaporean, you don鈥檛 have any connection to the country or have read enough about the country. Singaporeans are mostly of Chinese, Malay and Indian (Tamil) descent and this mix of groups has shaped Singaporean culture. Also, we follow what sources say. No source supports the claim that Singapore is an East Asian Cultural Sphere country. My other edit is perfectly valid because there is a source next to it that supports the inclusion of the term 鈥淢onsoon Asians鈥. So DO NOT ever attack another editor again and learn how to behave yourself when you鈥檙e on Wikipedia. Sapah3 ( talk) 13:36, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
With all due respect, I must disagree with the latest edits implying Myanmar and the Indian subcontinent are not generally included in Asia-Pacific. 207.255.243.110 ( talk) 00:53, 20 December 2022 (UTC) There are several sources suggesting they are. Here they are:
https://dkiapcss.edu/about/ap-countries/
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/apac-countries
And here is a link to a Wikipedia article about the Asia-Pacific Trade Agreement. Sri Lanka, India, and Bangladesh all signed it. Further evidence that the Indian subcontinent is part of Asia-Pacific
/info/en/?search=Asia-Pacific_Trade_Agreement 207.255.243.110 ( talk) 00:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 207.255.243.110 ( talk) 02:20, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
I suggest to keep Azerbaijan and Turkey in the article as part of Asia-Pacific, since eventhough they are transcontinental countries, part of those countries are in Asia. Further rationale to keep them are as follow:
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Here are sources outlining lists of Asia-Pacific countries. Clearly South Asia and Russia are included:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/apac-countries 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 2600:1011:B07C:E3F4:F406:9F2B:25D9:7271 ( talk) 13:20, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
1) Why are these countries listed as "may also include"? The term Asia-Pacific refers to the Pacific region that is on the side of Asia/Aus/NZ, hence "Asia-Pacific".
These countries are not included:
* California * Chile * Colombia * Costa Rica * Ecuador * El Salvador * Guatemala * Hawaii * Honduras * Mexico * Nicaragua * Panama * Peru
Please approve so we can apply the changes to this article.
2) Asia-Pacific should be written with a dash, as it is a bi-word denoting the Asia-Pacific region. The "Asia Pacific" without a dash is not used and is actually avoided as it may confuse people as to the meaning. It is similar in writing "South-East" not "South East". Please approve so we can apply the change to this article.
- "Asia-Pacific" is a rather absurd geographical descriptor. It's like creating a "Europe-North Africa" region based on economic exchanges. In reality, the term "Asia-Pacific" does not enjoy wide usage. Rather, it is an artificial construct only used by academics and some politicians in Australia and New Zealand. ZwickauDeluxe 13:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello User!
I'm interested in your suggestions, but this article isn't about the countries that's not included.
Thank you, Kiera Wikipedia User
Ok 11KieraPublisher ( talk) 18:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
As per the generally accepted map, shown in the infobox, Afghanistan, Mongolia and parts of Russia may also be included in the Asia-Pacific (show in light green color on the map). However, these are not the core Asia-Pacific countries. Khestwol ( talk) 15:42, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I have removed the Iran note because Iran is never considered to be a part of South Asia apart from the UN definition. No organisation or people who live in South Asia consider Iran to be geographically, politically or culturally a part of South Asia and I think it's wise to stick to the traditional definition of the region. One definition from an organisation that is not based in South Asia proper should yield a note. Speaking of definitions, Afghanistan too is not considered to be a part of South Asia from a South Asian perspective (e.g. official definition of South Asia from SAARC).
About the Third Opinion request: The request made at Third Opinion has been removed (i.e. declined). The request as stated there was about user conduct and 3O does not issue opinions about user conduct. Moreover, like all other moderated content dispute resolution venues at Wikipedia, Third Opinion requires thorough talk page discussion before seeking assistance. So far what's been said here is mainly about conduct and procedure, with very little discussion about why the edit is good or bad and certainly no content discussion which is thorough. IP editor: If you want to avoid discussions about whether additions to talk pages under different IP addresses are the same or different people, register an account. Otherwise the question of whether sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry is occurring is often going to be relevant. Regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 19:53, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
@ 2001:8003:9008:1301:d966:b4c7:e4bc:8bc1: Firstly, your behaviour is completely atrocious and inappropriate. You do not harass and attack fellow editors. Secondly, do not judge my edits without understanding the context and claim that I鈥檓 spamming Wikipedia because that is not what I鈥檓 doing. My edit about Singapore is because Singapore is not part of the East Asian Cultural Sphere. To claim no Singaporean will not agree with my edit makes no sense because you鈥檙e most likely not Singaporean, you don鈥檛 have any connection to the country or have read enough about the country. Singaporeans are mostly of Chinese, Malay and Indian (Tamil) descent and this mix of groups has shaped Singaporean culture. Also, we follow what sources say. No source supports the claim that Singapore is an East Asian Cultural Sphere country. My other edit is perfectly valid because there is a source next to it that supports the inclusion of the term 鈥淢onsoon Asians鈥. So DO NOT ever attack another editor again and learn how to behave yourself when you鈥檙e on Wikipedia. Sapah3 ( talk) 13:36, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
With all due respect, I must disagree with the latest edits implying Myanmar and the Indian subcontinent are not generally included in Asia-Pacific. 207.255.243.110 ( talk) 00:53, 20 December 2022 (UTC) There are several sources suggesting they are. Here they are:
https://dkiapcss.edu/about/ap-countries/
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/apac-countries
And here is a link to a Wikipedia article about the Asia-Pacific Trade Agreement. Sri Lanka, India, and Bangladesh all signed it. Further evidence that the Indian subcontinent is part of Asia-Pacific
/info/en/?search=Asia-Pacific_Trade_Agreement 207.255.243.110 ( talk) 00:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 207.255.243.110 ( talk) 02:20, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
I suggest to keep Azerbaijan and Turkey in the article as part of Asia-Pacific, since eventhough they are transcontinental countries, part of those countries are in Asia. Further rationale to keep them are as follow: