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Army of the Dead is not a sequel to Dawn of the Dead (2004) and the script has been heavily rewritten since 2008.
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/dave-bautista-zack-snyder-army-of-the-dead-1203182227/
https://theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-netflix-zombie-film-20190130/
Dark knight 2149 17:41, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
If there was any further doubt that this was never a Dawn of the Dead sequel, here is an additional source:
The title of the movie obviously has “of the Dead” in it. Should the Romero or the zombie fans will see that, is that an homage?
Yeah. It has to be “of the Dead.” People have asked me, ”is that like, is this a sequel?” I'm like “no. It's a zombie movie.” And they're like “what what does that mean?” And I'm like, “it’s ‘of the dead.’ It’s ‘something of the dead.’ It just happens to be an army.”
Was it a sequel when it was first developed?
No, no. I Developed it right after Dawn, but not as a sequel. I wanted to do this other evolution in it of the zombies, so I need another trope, I needed another origin story in order to make this other thing work, so I was like, “okay, it can live in his own universe.” And now we're building this universe like nuts, so we'll see. It's kind of fun.
Dark knight 2149 19:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
yes indeed even though " the dead " is in the title doesn't show any real factual evidence stating that army of the dead is a sequel to Dawn of the dead Sarah afton ( talk) 21:08, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
yea I agree that sometimes the claims made by wikipedia are unbiased and verifiable by the end of the day but this still does not prove that army of the dead is a sequel in any way to Dawn of the dead Sarah afton ( talk) 20:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
so inconclusive to what I said there is still no evidence of army of the dead being a sequel to Dawn of the dead Sarah afton ( talk) 20:38, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Darkknight2149 Sarah afton ( talk) 22:34, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
My copy of Making of Army of the Dead came in the mail and literally one of the first pages says it's a different universe:
https://i.imgur.com/sOkGOGZ.jpg
Dark knight 2149 01:24, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Users: Darkknight2149, Sarah afton, and wallyfromdilbert -- My point in this discussion is that the film is a "spiritual sequel". That is confirmed and factual. The fact that there's a reference confirms this as well. This overt reference/"Easter egg" or whatever you want to call it, directly references the events of Dawn of the Dead. Whether you interpret "spiritual sequel" as meaning "the opposite of sequel" or not, having the article reference that fact is constructive. Furthermore, I don't know why you keep calling it the "2004 worldwide apocalypse" as that is not stated in either movie. Referencing the "2004 Milwaukee outbreak" is simply putting a name to the outbreak that happened before. Lastly, given your "making of" book states it is a different cinematic universe this seems to confirm that Dawn of the Dead is separate continuity. However, it still doesn't negate the fact that the Army of the Dead franchise as a whole is a "spiritual sequel to Dawn of the Dead. Cheers m8s!-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 22:25, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
This quote is useful for good measure:
Dark knight 2149 09:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
why did you want me I supported your claim that it wasn't a sequel to Dawn of the dead Sarah afton ( talk) 21:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Asking if we should add "(2021 film)" to the page title as there is another film with the same title. Iamnoahflores ( talk) 23:59, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
I don't think that is really necessary either since readers would already know that it was made this year Sarah afton ( talk) 21:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Somebody deleted a big section from the article because he said he objected to fan theories and speculation. The section didn't contain any fan theories or speculation. It included information from the movie's producers, with citations. Here's the information, FYI:
As the convoy starts their journey at the beginning of the film, there are two bright lights that hover in the sky, then move away quickly. The movie's producer has suggested the zombie leader might be part alien or genetically engineered. [1] The zombies that kill Guzman in the lobby include some robot zombies. [2] The producers plan to elaborate on these ideas in the sequels. 2603:9000:E408:4800:D8DF:FFAB:B03D:9926 ( talk) 22:23, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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yes you shouldn't add things that are just rumors unless proven real Sarah afton ( talk) 21:11, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
it was never truly confirmed by snyder so therefore it it a rumor so unless its proven right don't put it down Sarah afton ( talk) 20:19, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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The article is clearly written and covers an interesting topic. It is stable, 96.1% of authorship is one user, Some Dude From North Carolina. It is currently ranked a C class article, assessed on 25 March July 2021 by Some Dude From North Carolina. It was also nominated as a GA at the same time but that was withdrawn on 29 May due to "high levels of vandalism". There has been minor editing since then.
@ Some Dude From North Carolina: Great work. Please ping me when you would like me to complete the assessment. simongraham ( talk) 02:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
The six good article criteria:
Congratulations. This article meets the criteria to be a Good Article.
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Article was recently promoted to GA, is long enough and well sourced. Earwig picked up a lot of hits, but its all direct quotes or mirrors (like low quality Indian sites that copy wikipedia). No actual copyvio. All of the hooks are interesting, but I think ALT0 has the most potential. I edited it to make it even more interesting. The photo is also good (looks nice, free use and in the article).
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Army of the Dead is not a sequel to Dawn of the Dead (2004) and the script has been heavily rewritten since 2008.
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/dave-bautista-zack-snyder-army-of-the-dead-1203182227/
https://theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-netflix-zombie-film-20190130/
Dark knight 2149 17:41, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
If there was any further doubt that this was never a Dawn of the Dead sequel, here is an additional source:
The title of the movie obviously has “of the Dead” in it. Should the Romero or the zombie fans will see that, is that an homage?
Yeah. It has to be “of the Dead.” People have asked me, ”is that like, is this a sequel?” I'm like “no. It's a zombie movie.” And they're like “what what does that mean?” And I'm like, “it’s ‘of the dead.’ It’s ‘something of the dead.’ It just happens to be an army.”
Was it a sequel when it was first developed?
No, no. I Developed it right after Dawn, but not as a sequel. I wanted to do this other evolution in it of the zombies, so I need another trope, I needed another origin story in order to make this other thing work, so I was like, “okay, it can live in his own universe.” And now we're building this universe like nuts, so we'll see. It's kind of fun.
Dark knight 2149 19:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
yes indeed even though " the dead " is in the title doesn't show any real factual evidence stating that army of the dead is a sequel to Dawn of the dead Sarah afton ( talk) 21:08, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
yea I agree that sometimes the claims made by wikipedia are unbiased and verifiable by the end of the day but this still does not prove that army of the dead is a sequel in any way to Dawn of the dead Sarah afton ( talk) 20:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
so inconclusive to what I said there is still no evidence of army of the dead being a sequel to Dawn of the dead Sarah afton ( talk) 20:38, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Darkknight2149 Sarah afton ( talk) 22:34, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
My copy of Making of Army of the Dead came in the mail and literally one of the first pages says it's a different universe:
https://i.imgur.com/sOkGOGZ.jpg
Dark knight 2149 01:24, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Users: Darkknight2149, Sarah afton, and wallyfromdilbert -- My point in this discussion is that the film is a "spiritual sequel". That is confirmed and factual. The fact that there's a reference confirms this as well. This overt reference/"Easter egg" or whatever you want to call it, directly references the events of Dawn of the Dead. Whether you interpret "spiritual sequel" as meaning "the opposite of sequel" or not, having the article reference that fact is constructive. Furthermore, I don't know why you keep calling it the "2004 worldwide apocalypse" as that is not stated in either movie. Referencing the "2004 Milwaukee outbreak" is simply putting a name to the outbreak that happened before. Lastly, given your "making of" book states it is a different cinematic universe this seems to confirm that Dawn of the Dead is separate continuity. However, it still doesn't negate the fact that the Army of the Dead franchise as a whole is a "spiritual sequel to Dawn of the Dead. Cheers m8s!-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 22:25, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
This quote is useful for good measure:
Dark knight 2149 09:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
why did you want me I supported your claim that it wasn't a sequel to Dawn of the dead Sarah afton ( talk) 21:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Asking if we should add "(2021 film)" to the page title as there is another film with the same title. Iamnoahflores ( talk) 23:59, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
I don't think that is really necessary either since readers would already know that it was made this year Sarah afton ( talk) 21:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Somebody deleted a big section from the article because he said he objected to fan theories and speculation. The section didn't contain any fan theories or speculation. It included information from the movie's producers, with citations. Here's the information, FYI:
As the convoy starts their journey at the beginning of the film, there are two bright lights that hover in the sky, then move away quickly. The movie's producer has suggested the zombie leader might be part alien or genetically engineered. [1] The zombies that kill Guzman in the lobby include some robot zombies. [2] The producers plan to elaborate on these ideas in the sequels. 2603:9000:E408:4800:D8DF:FFAB:B03D:9926 ( talk) 22:23, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
References
yes you shouldn't add things that are just rumors unless proven real Sarah afton ( talk) 21:11, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
it was never truly confirmed by snyder so therefore it it a rumor so unless its proven right don't put it down Sarah afton ( talk) 20:19, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Simongraham ( talk · contribs) 22:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
This looks an interesting article and the nominator,
Some Dude From North Carolina, has both written some great
GAs and excellent GA reviews. I'll start my review shortly.
simongraham (
talk)
22:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
The article is clearly written and covers an interesting topic. It is stable, 96.1% of authorship is one user, Some Dude From North Carolina. It is currently ranked a C class article, assessed on 25 March July 2021 by Some Dude From North Carolina. It was also nominated as a GA at the same time but that was withdrawn on 29 May due to "high levels of vandalism". There has been minor editing since then.
@ Some Dude From North Carolina: Great work. Please ping me when you would like me to complete the assessment. simongraham ( talk) 02:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
The six good article criteria:
Congratulations. This article meets the criteria to be a Good Article.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
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08:14, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk). Self-nominated at 19:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall:
Article was recently promoted to GA, is long enough and well sourced. Earwig picked up a lot of hits, but its all direct quotes or mirrors (like low quality Indian sites that copy wikipedia). No actual copyvio. All of the hooks are interesting, but I think ALT0 has the most potential. I edited it to make it even more interesting. The photo is also good (looks nice, free use and in the article).
BuySomeApples (
talk)
09:38, 30 July 2021 (UTC)