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@ Huldra: Yours editing :"totally one-sided arguments, cherry-picking every bellicose statement you can find is no way to write an article. Bring it to talk". What is one sided? Where is the cherry-picking? Ykantor ( talk) 02:47, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
The pattern of the events is typically an Egyptian attack, followed by an Israeli response.
Oncenawhile: Yes, I agree with you that some influential elements in Israel wanted (and wanting) to initiate an Israeli aggression e.g. Ariel Sharon. However, during those times, they didn't have to be the first one to shoot at the other side. They just waited for the next Egyptian shooting/ Ambush/ bombardment and over reacted. Later I'll quote Arab sources concerning Nasser behavior. Ykantor ( talk) 05:04, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- there were 3 reasons that no one here opposed them: the Egyptian blocking of the Suez Canal and Tiran straits, the concentration of Egyptian forces in Sinai, the bellicose statements .
-reason: The Fedayeen terror. Zero's claim that "The fedayeen attacks were mostly launched in direct response to Israeli attacks on Gaza" is not correct. He probably meant that Nasser formalized the Fedayeen raids in response to a big scale Israeli retaliation attack. But the Egyptian side raids were there for years up to this step of Nasser. Zero said: " fidayeen attacks from Gaza had ceased by the summer of 1956, months before the 1956 war.". At April 1956 Egypt and Israel agreed to a truce. A couple of weeks later, Fedayeen shot dead a Jewish settler but Ben Gurion decided not to retaliate and to continue with the truce. Beginning at July there were more Fedayeen raids, that subsequently subsided. Moreover, at the same period there were a lot of Fedayeen raids originating in Jordan, and some historians claim that it was an Egyptian initiative.
-Reason: The huge eastern block modern arms deal. It is true that France supplied arms to Israel, but the scale of the Egyptian arms supply was much bigger.
- Zero's claim: "the most appalling distortion is the failure to credit the Sèvres protocol with contributing to the decision,". the Sèvres protocol was indeed important. However it was relevant for the war timing and was not a reason for the war. Besides, my edit mentioned a prior agreement .
- It seems that my initial edit was correct, but there are claims that the background was not explained properly in 2 of the 5 reasons plus the Sèvres protocol. (Should the context include al-Azim Ramadan and Amer notes also?.) I accept it, but since the 1956 war is just a small part of the article, there is a question mark about the size of the added background text.
A Reasons have already been told by three editors and I just told mine. The wording was better before your addition. You added that "the bellicosity of recent Arab statements prompted Israel to remove the threat". It even looks like only one of the sources you added say so (Beyond Guns and Steel: A War Termination Strategy by Dominic Joseph Caraccilo) but it gives the look that all agrees. But what is most significant is that there are several others of authors who classify this is a "war of choice" but this of course is not mentioned by you. You just add sources that support the Israeli view and as others have said, you can find sources that say the total opposite.
B The part "it was impossible, whatever boundaries we might recommend, to set up an Arab State which should be self-supporting" was rejected and still stands in 10 articles. You didn't explain why you are adding similiar statements to many articles. Can't you see that this is unusual compared to other editors? I mean, you seem to copy sentences to every article about the topic.
C Your problem is that you fail to note that Israel was not ready to return all of occupied Egyptian territory, which Egypt could not accept, and that Israel was seen as the one who made the Jarring Mission fail. The article was and still a mess because it is mainly based on what the Israeli foreign ministry and their embassy in Washington write but then you added this part, which made it more one-sided, and you presented it as a fact when it was taken from Yitzhak Rabin's memoirs. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 06:56, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
With this confronting behavior , should other editors wp:Assume good faith of yours ? Ykantor ( talk) 12:18, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Zero0000: Yours:"On the contrary, it was a grotesque distortion." If it is distorted you should blame the 5 sources that my edit reflected faithfully: ShemeshTroen2005p5, Alteras1993p192, Caraccilo2011p113, Dowty2005p102, Bickerton2009p101. Your notes added important background, which should be added too. (although some are not accurate or missing relevant information). Ykantor ( talk) 14:50, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
A proposed edit: (should be expanded)
During the years before the 1956 Suez crisis, Egyptian leaders talked openly about destruction of Israel. The Egyptian Foreign Minister, said early in 1954: "The Arab people will not be embarrassed to declare: We shall not be satisfied except by the final obliteration of Israel from the map of the Middle East" [6]. Nasser said at 31.8.1955 that "There will be no peace on Israel's border because we demand vengeance, and vengeance is Israel's death." On October 14, Nasser said: "I am not solely fighting against Israel itself. My task is to deliver the Arab world from destruction through Israel's intrigue, which has its roots abroad. Our hatred is very strong. There is no sense in talking about peace with Israel. There is not even the smallest place for negotiations."
Egypt blocked the Suez canal for shipping and refused to comply with the 1951 Security Council order that Egypt should open the Canal to Israeli shipping. On 12 Sept 1955 Egypt tightened the Tiran straits block for an Israeli shipping, and closed the airspace for Israeli flights over the Gulf of Acaba.
During the early 50's , the infiltration from Gaza strip to Israel was mainly for economic reasons. Gradually, they developed into violent robbery and deliberate killing attacks. During those years, Israel responded by retaliation operations. On Apr 1954 The Egyptian military send an "official" Fedayeen across the borders. (morris,victims, p. 291). this infiltration posed a very serious problem for Israel in general and the border settlements in particular. Many of the inhabitants of the border settlements were new immigrants from Muslim countries. Infiltration from across the border placed their lives at risk, exacted a heavy economic price, and undermined their morale to the point where wholesale desertion became a real possibility. (shlaim, morris, http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005/Israels%20Dirty%20War.html) . The Egyptians tried to stop the infiltration, but it continued. The Egyptian succeeded to clamp down on civilian infiltration during Dec 1955 up to Febr 1956.
On February 28, 1955 Israeli military raid of an Egyptian Army outpost in Gaza, in retaliation for recent fedayeen attacks on Israel. The Gaza Raid resulted in the deaths of 39 Egyptian. Nasser responded by ordering the formation of Palestinian fedayeen units and employed them as an official instrument of warfare against Israel. The amount of the Fedayeen raids increased. Egyptian troops use to fire at the Israeli soldiers almost daily, there were repeated mining attacks and ambushes to the IDF patrols. Egyptian agents recruited and armed Fedayeen in Jordan and Lebanon too. (morris,victims, p. 283). The Fedayeen attacks stopped after the Israeli destroyed Khan Yunis police fort on 31.8.1955 .
In 4 Apr 1956 the Egyptians shot dead 3 Israeli soldiers, and Egyptian troops use to fire at the Israeli soldiers almost daily, there were repeated mining attacks and ambushes to the IDF patrols. At 5 April both armies were shooting each other, and Egyptians bombarded Israeli settlements. The Israeli army responded by a mortar barrage on the Gaza market: sixty-six Egyptians were killed. The incident touched off a second wave of raids by the fedayeen..." (Michael Oren, Escalation to Suez: The Egypt-Israel Border War, 1949-56, Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 24, No. 2, Studies on War. (Apr., 1989), pp. 347-373.
By late April (1956), Hammarskjold was able to bring about a cease-fire. An Egyptian ambush shot dead an Israel civilian at 29 April but Ben Gurion decided not to retaliate. The resulting calm along the demarcation lines proved only temporary. The situation deteriorated again for a few weeks in July and then improved for several months, ( Khouri 1985p204). During these months, Fedayeen continued to infiltrate and kill Israeli civilians, but they came from other Arab countries, mainly Jordan. Some sources claim that the Egyptians were behind those infiltration.
In September 1955 Nasser obtained the massive Soviet arms deal. This deal threatened to tip the military balance against Israel.
Israel received massive shipments of arms from France, although not in the scale of the Egyptian arms deal. E.g. The Egyptian-Czech arms deal included 150 Jet fighters (Mig15) Vs Israel's 16 French made Mystere and 22 Oragan fighters. On 18 March 1956, the Israeli Prime Minister had warned that 'war within a few months could not be avoided unless Israel obtained the arms needed to counter Egypt's weapons'. [7]
According to Hasan Afif El-Hasan : "Israel was looking for war to pre-empt the potential threat of Egypt's arms purchase and to thwart Nasser's support for the Palestinian guerrillas. It found one by aligning himself with the french and the British"
French promise of air support , Britain's promise to renege on its defence treaty with Jordan
In late 1956, the bellicosity of recent Arab statements prompted Israel to remove the threat of the concentrated Egyptian forces in the Sinai, and Israel invaded the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula on October 29, 1956. Other Israeli aims were elimination of the Fedayeen incursions into Israel that made life unbearable for its southern population, and opening the blockaded Straits of Tiran for Israeli ships. [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]
According to Hazem Kandil, Israel was alarmed by the Czech arms deal, and believed it had only a narrow window of opportunity to hit Egypt's army. [14]
Israel occupied much of the peninsula within a few days. As agreed, within a couple of days, Britain and France invaded too, aiming at regaining Western control of the Suez Canal and removing the Egyptian president Nasser.
--The United States and the United Nations soon pressured it into a ceasefire
Several months later Israel withdrew its forces from Sinai, following strong pressure from the United States and the Soviet Union. In return, Egypt agreed to the demilitarization of Sinai and the United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) was stationed in Sinai to prevent any further conflict in the Sinai.the Fedayeen murderous incursions into Israel were stopped.
meeting on November 15 (1956) ... Amer also lashed out at Nasser, accusing him of provoking an unnecessary war and then blaming the military for the result.â
The prominent historian and commentator Abd al-Azim Ramadan, In a series of articles published in AlWafd, subsequently compiled in a hook published in 2000, Ramadan criticized the Nasser cult, âŚ. The events leading up to the nationalization of the Suez Canal Company, as other events during Nasserâs rule, Ramadan wrote, showed Nasser to be far from a rational, responsible leader. ⌠His decision to nationalize the Suez Canal was his alone, made without political or military consultation. ⌠The source of all this evil. Ramadan noted, was Nasserâs inclination to solitary decision making⌠the revolutionary regime led by the same individualâNasserâ repeated its mistakes when it decided to expel the international peacekeeping force from the Sinai Peninsula and close the Straits of Tiran in 1967. Both decisions led to a state of war with Israel, despite the lack of military preparedness
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"On the eve of 1956 Sinai campaign...16 Mystere...22 Ouragan fighters
"meeting on November 15 (1956) ... Amer also lashed out at Nasser, accusing him of provoking an unnecessary war and then blaming the military for the result."
the prominent historian and commentator Abd al-Azim Ramadan, In a series of articles published in AlWafd, subsequently compiled in a hook published in 2000, Ramadan criticized the Nasser cult, âŚ. The events leading up to the nationalization of the Suez Canal Company, as other events during Nasser's rule, Ramadan wrote, showed Nasser to be far from a rational, responsible leader. ⌠His decision to nationalize the Suez Canal was his alone, made without political or military consultation. ⌠The source of all this evil. Ramadan noted, was Nasser's inclination to solitary decision making⌠the revolutionary regime led by the same individualâNasserâ repeated its mistakes when it decided to expel the international peacekeeping force from the Sinai Peninsula and close the Straits of Tiran in 1967. Both decisions led to a state of war with Israel, despite the lack of military preparedness
by late April (1956), Hammarskjold was able to bring about a cease-fire...The resulting calm along the demarcation lines proved only temporary. The situation deteriorated again for a few weeks in July and then improved for several months
Israel was looking for war to pre-empt the potential threat of Egypt's arms purchase and to thwart Nasser's support for the Palestinian guerrillas. It found one by aligning himself with the french and the British
In early 1954 the Egyptian Foreign Minister declared that the Arab people will not be embarrassed to declare: We shall not be satisfied except by the final obliteration of Israel from the map of the Middle East
On 18 March 1956, the Israeli Prime Minister had warned that 'war within a few months could not be avoided unless Israel obtained the arms needed to counter Egypt's weapons'
The aims were to be threefold: to remove the threat, wholly or partially, of the Egyptian rmy in the Sinai, to destroy the framework of the fedaiyyun, and to secure the freedom of navigation through the straits of Tiran.
the removal of the Egyptian blockade of the Straits of Tiran at the entrance of the Gulf of Aqaba. The blockade closed Israel's sea lane to East Africa and the Far East, hindering the development of Israel's southern port of Eilat and its hinterland, the Nege. Another important objective of the Israeli war plan was the elimination of the terrorist bases in the Gaza Strip, from which daily fedayeen incursions into Israel made life unbearable for its southern population. And last but not least, the concentration of the Egyptian forces in the Sinai Peninsula, armed with the newly acquired weapons from the Soviet bloc, prepared for an attack on Israel. Here, Ben-Gurion believed, was a time bomb that had to be defused before it was too late. Reaching the Suez Canal did not figure at all in Israel's war objectives.
The escalation continued with the Egyptian blockade of the Straits of Tiran, and Nasser's nationalization of the Suez Canal in July 1956. On October 14, Nasser made clear his intent:"I am not solely fighting against Israel itself. My task is to deliver the Arab world from destruction through Israel's intrigue, which has its roots abroad. Our hatred is very strong. There is no sense in talking about peace with Israel. There is not even the smallest place for negotiations." Less than two weeks later, on October 25, Egypt signed a tripartite agreement with Syria and Jordan placing Nasser in command of all three armies. The continued blockade of the Suez Canal and Gulf of Aqaba to Israeli shipping, combined with the increased fedayeen attacks and the bellicosity of recent Arab statements, prompted Israel, with the backing of Britain and France, to attack Egypt on October 29, 1956.
In 1955, Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser began to import arms from the Soviet Bloc to build his arsenal for the confrontation with Israel. In the short-term, however, he employed a new tactic to prosecute Egypt's war with Israel. He announced it on August 31, 1955: Egypt has decided to dispatch her heroes, the disciples of Pharaoh and the sons of Islam and they will cleanse the land of Palestine....There will be no peace on Israel's border because we demand vengeance, and vengeance is Israel's death. These "heroes" were Arab terrorists, or fedayeen, trained and equipped by Egyptian Intelligence to engage in hostile action on the border and infiltrate Israel to commit acts of sabotage and murder.
Gamal Abdel Nasser, who declared in one speech that "Egypt has decided to dispatch her heroes, the disciples of Pharaoh and the sons of Islam and they will cleanse the land of Palestine....There will be no peace on Israel's border because we demand vengeance, and vengeance is Israel's death."...The level of violence against Israelis, soldiers and civilians alike, seemed to be rising inexorably.
(p. 101) To them the murderous fedayeen raids and constant harassment were just another form of Arab warfare against Israel...(p. 102) Israel's aims were to capture the Sinai peninsula in order to open the straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping, and to seize the Gaza strip to end fedayeen attacks.
(Israel) "was alarmed by the Czech arms deal, and believed it had only a narrow window of opportunity to cripple Cairo's drive for military parity".
Is there any reference for this. It is well known that Turkey supports Palestine but this support does not extend for all the Arab world. Turkey is one of the Israel's largest arms and tech customer, they participated in joint military exercises against Iran and signed a free trade agreement etc etc. kazekagetr 08:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
In the infobox, it says that 1,723 Israeli civilian have benn killed in the conflict. This number must be incorrect, because that during 1948 Arab-Israeli war 2,400~ cicilian had been killed. When considering all other wars and armed engagements, the number should be higher than 1723. If no one will disagree, I will change the number of civilian casualties. Guy1286 ( talk) 07:38, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Year Zero of the Arab-Israeli Conflict, 1929 by Hillel Cohen, translated by Haim Watzman, 2015, Brandeis University Press/University Press of New England Jodi.a.schneider ( talk) 01:14, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
I created this table a few months ago; does it clarify things? Llywelyn2000 ( talk) 08:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Please see WT:IPCOLL#RfC: Proposal to fix a long term structural problem in Palestine Israel conflict articles. Oncenawhile ( talk) 22:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
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Given the importance of the conflict articles to our project I had hoped for more feedback at this RFC, but I think I overcomplicated the description. Some editors may also be thinking "we've been just fine for 10 years so is there really a problem here that needs solving"? I would like to encourage more editors to contribute.
The core issue behind the RFC question is that most readers know very little about the conflict and therefore need one single summary article to read and begin their journey, and we need that single summary article to broadly match the picture that the 1,000s of books summarizing this conflict take. Instead we have sat for many years with three primary articles ( IPC since 48, AIC since 48 and ICMP 20-48) which are fine but are missing something above them to thread them together into the 100-year-narrative of the conflict presented by the vast majority of books on the topic.
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At the end of paragraph "Background" it says: "as suggested, for instance, by Paul in Romans 11Cfrom the Bible.hristian Zionism teaches that the return of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Christ"
The "C" before "from the Bible" belongs to the next sentence. In addition "in the Bible" is the better preposition. Corrected version:
"as suggested, for instance, by Paul in Romans 11 in the Bible. Christian Zionism teaches that the return of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Christ"
However, as the article is locked I can't initiate the correction myself.
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The consensus is "No, we don't need a parent article; the split of three top articles ( IsraeliâPalestinian conflict, Arab-Israeli conflict, and Intercommunal conflict in Mandatory Palestine) is fine."
Per Wikipedia:Summary_style#Rationale, for major topics Wikipedia should "distribute information across related articles in a way that can serve readers who want varying amounts of details, thus giving readers the ability to zoom to the level of details they need and not exhausting those who need a primer on a whole topic". It goes on to discuss the parent-child article structure. I have tried in different ways to get the community focused on this question for the huge and complex Israel-Palestine topic, but I have continually failed to get a proper discussion going, probably because I have been asking the wrong question. Here is another attempt, with a hopefully better question.
Please could editors comment as to whether you believe that this article should be the overall parent article of the whole conflict, which began in 1917 or 1920 depending which scholar you look at. Proposed options below:
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ISTM that the conflict didn't start in the 1800s. It started in the Book of Ezra and the Book of Nehemiah (and yes, I know there were no Moslems back then).
In Ezra 4:1â4:3 the Jews reject the help of other Israelites living around Jerusalem. Hang on, are these others Israelites? They probably are descendents of Israel. But they've intermarried with other peoples and are no longer considered part of Israel by the Jews. The Jews recorded this disaster in 2 Kings 17:18. From that time on, the tribe of Judah (the Jews) considered themselves the only Israelites (occasionally also acknowledging the remnants of the tribe of Benjamin and even the tribe of Levi).
Am I the only one to have noticed this and its significance? I'm not a reliable source of course. But surely reputable scholars have discussed this too? Andrewa ( talk) 13:42, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
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Benny Morris' account of the reasons behind the refugee problem is not accepted by other historians who did research on the topic. He is also the only historian mentioned in the entry and no other point of view is given, which can give rise to bias. Mainstream historians point up that Morris did not review Arab language documents and strongly disagree with his analysis on the matter; it is likely that both the Arab leadership and the Jewish one are responsible for the refugee problem but blaming one side conclusively is not possible. See for example:
Shabtai Teveth, âThe Palestinian Refugee Problem and its Originsâ, Middle Eastern Studies, vol. 26, no. 2, 1990, pages 214-249.
and Ephraim Karsh, âFabricating Israeli History: The âNew Historiansââ, Frank Cass, London, 1997. â Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhadani ( talk ⢠contribs) 22:50, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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It is requested that on the right side of the ArabâIsraeli conflict article, in the column with the map, under Belligerents, India should be written as supporting the Arabs and Palestine. This can be accredited to the article, EgyptâIndia relations. 100.33.3.16 ( talk) 02:11, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
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The romanization of the Arabic text should be changed from Al-Sira'a Al'Arabi A'Israili to aᚣ-ᚢirÄĘża l-ĘżArabÄŤ l-ĘžIsrÄʞčlÄŤ. The current one is nonstandard and contains mistakes. Qwerty12302 ( talk | contributions) 09:22, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
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The ~1700 Israeli civilian deaths listed in the opening column seems rather low. Our very own article on the First Arab-Israeli war says 2400 Israeli civilians died in that war alone. I believe the number cited by the Ha'aretz article was specifically about those killed in terror attacks not including the larger number killed either intentionally or not by the regular armies of the Arab states. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.63.57.119 ( talk) 20:25, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Please see relevant discussion at Template talk:Portal#Portal:ArabâIsraeli conflict icon â Finnusertop ( talk â contribs) 12:55, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
It would seem to me that the external links section on this page is a violation of WP:DIRECTORY. "Wikipedia is not a directory of everything in the universe that exists or has existed." (in this case a directory of the various parties to this conflict). I propose it be blanked, or at most 1-2 links per belligerent. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 05:12, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Blanking and putting it here per WP:PRESERVE. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 20:06, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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The lead sections has been stable for quite some time, significant edits should be discussed. GreyShark ( dibra) 21:13, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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I want to add a link in the external sources that leads to the University of Utah's digital collection of Fayez A. Sayegh's accounts and thoughts on the Arab-Israeli conflict.
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The legend provided for the map in ArabâIsraeli_conflict#Shift_to_Iranian_conflict_(2006âpresent) is incomplete. It does not define most of the colors used in the map. The complete legend is (copied from [1]):
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There's new DNA research on Canaanites, can somebody edit the article and add some info about this?
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/05/dna-from-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews/ Sitak87 ( talk) 22:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
It is no doubt that the conflict is over. The only countries at odds with Israel are not Arab League members (Syria is out, Hamas is not part of the League and Hezbollah is not a state, but an Iranian proxy in Lebanon). Iran's conflict with Israel is not the topic of this page. No one is using the IA conflict in present tense, so perhaps it is time to put an end date to it. I can suggest to put 2005, the end of the Al-Aqsa Intifada, is a good marking end point for the conflict, as Arab League member PLO/PA ended its warfare vs Israel. GreyShark ( dibra) 13:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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The genius changed "cite web" for "cute web", therefore erasing the source for "Time to Test the Arab Peace Offer". Some people don't check how their changes appear in article. Not so cute at all.-- Watchlonly ( talk) 10:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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Morris, Benny (2009). 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War, Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-15112-1
Reiter, Yitzhak (2009). National Minority, Regional Majority: Palestinian Arabs Versus Jews in Israel (Syracuse Studies on Peace and Conflict Resolution), Syracuse University Press (Sd). ISBN 978-0-8156-3230-6
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Morris, Benny (2009). 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War, Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-15112-1
Pressman, Jeremy (2020). The Sword is Not Enough: Arabs, Israelis, and the Limits of Military Force, Manchester University Press. ISBN 978-1-5261-4617-5
Reiter, Yitzhak (2009). National Minority, Regional Majority: Palestinian Arabs Versus Jews in Israel (Syracuse Studies on Peace and Conflict Resolution), Syracuse University Press (Sd). ISBN 978-0-8156-3230-6
Nutmeg39 ( talk) 11:22, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Is there an article yet about the current conflict? And can it be added to this article? Nerguy ( talk) 16:06, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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The last section for the 1948 Arab Israeli War section. No source is provided for the statement that French and Jews were not granted citizenship. Aymene Rabah ( talk) 05:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Elevedevie ( talk) 18:36, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Paragraph three of the introduction ends with: ", both however turning to support Iran." Does this mean (a) supporting Iran's position(s) in the area, or (b) attempting to gain the support of Iran for their positions in the area?
If the latter, I propose that the sentence end: ", both however turning for support to Iran" but do not want to make any change w/o consultation. Elevedevie ( talk) 04:10, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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 Done: I think that is a big problem.
The ArabâIsraeli conflict involves political tension, military conflicts, and other disputes between Arab states and Israel ImChessFan21 ( talk) 10:59, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Although the introduction is fairly well written, this section could use an edit: "Part of the PalestineâIsrael conflict arose from the conflicting claims by these movements to the land that formed the British Mandatory Palestine, which was regarded by the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland, while at the same time it was regarded by the Pan-Arab movement as historically and currently belonging to the Arab Palestinians,[7] and in the Pan-Islamic context, as Muslim lands." Though it is true that the Jewish people 'regard' Palestine as their ancestral homeland,the various historical, genetic and anthropological data are clear that they did in fact arise there; the average reader, however, would not discern this, and would instead regard this as some sort of claim. Since the phrasing seems to be motivated by a desire to take balanced view of the conflict (i.e. regarded is used twice there, applying to 'both sides' of the conflict) a complete rewording seems in order to avoid the issue. If concerned about impact on bias, one could also include content here about the evidence regarding Arab populations in the region during the Ottoman period, or in the Levant in general prior to that. 108.175.233.87 ( talk) 20:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
In the section Notable wars and violent events, another item should be added to the table: 1991, Gulf War, 74 Israelis killed by Iraqi SCUD missile attacks, Result: Israel refrains from joining war against Iraq, allowing Arab partners remain in anti_Iraq coalition This was a significant cause of tension during the war, as Iraq tried to split the coalition by attacking Israel. If Israel had responded to the attacks, Syria and Jordan may well have joined the war on Iraq's side to fight against Israel. Other Arab nations would have found the situation of being in a war with Israel against an Arab nation impossible to continue. 10:15, 13 Sep 2021 (UTC) 77.102.249.89 ( talk) 09:40, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
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@ Huldra: Yours editing :"totally one-sided arguments, cherry-picking every bellicose statement you can find is no way to write an article. Bring it to talk". What is one sided? Where is the cherry-picking? Ykantor ( talk) 02:47, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
The pattern of the events is typically an Egyptian attack, followed by an Israeli response.
Oncenawhile: Yes, I agree with you that some influential elements in Israel wanted (and wanting) to initiate an Israeli aggression e.g. Ariel Sharon. However, during those times, they didn't have to be the first one to shoot at the other side. They just waited for the next Egyptian shooting/ Ambush/ bombardment and over reacted. Later I'll quote Arab sources concerning Nasser behavior. Ykantor ( talk) 05:04, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- there were 3 reasons that no one here opposed them: the Egyptian blocking of the Suez Canal and Tiran straits, the concentration of Egyptian forces in Sinai, the bellicose statements .
-reason: The Fedayeen terror. Zero's claim that "The fedayeen attacks were mostly launched in direct response to Israeli attacks on Gaza" is not correct. He probably meant that Nasser formalized the Fedayeen raids in response to a big scale Israeli retaliation attack. But the Egyptian side raids were there for years up to this step of Nasser. Zero said: " fidayeen attacks from Gaza had ceased by the summer of 1956, months before the 1956 war.". At April 1956 Egypt and Israel agreed to a truce. A couple of weeks later, Fedayeen shot dead a Jewish settler but Ben Gurion decided not to retaliate and to continue with the truce. Beginning at July there were more Fedayeen raids, that subsequently subsided. Moreover, at the same period there were a lot of Fedayeen raids originating in Jordan, and some historians claim that it was an Egyptian initiative.
-Reason: The huge eastern block modern arms deal. It is true that France supplied arms to Israel, but the scale of the Egyptian arms supply was much bigger.
- Zero's claim: "the most appalling distortion is the failure to credit the Sèvres protocol with contributing to the decision,". the Sèvres protocol was indeed important. However it was relevant for the war timing and was not a reason for the war. Besides, my edit mentioned a prior agreement .
- It seems that my initial edit was correct, but there are claims that the background was not explained properly in 2 of the 5 reasons plus the Sèvres protocol. (Should the context include al-Azim Ramadan and Amer notes also?.) I accept it, but since the 1956 war is just a small part of the article, there is a question mark about the size of the added background text.
A Reasons have already been told by three editors and I just told mine. The wording was better before your addition. You added that "the bellicosity of recent Arab statements prompted Israel to remove the threat". It even looks like only one of the sources you added say so (Beyond Guns and Steel: A War Termination Strategy by Dominic Joseph Caraccilo) but it gives the look that all agrees. But what is most significant is that there are several others of authors who classify this is a "war of choice" but this of course is not mentioned by you. You just add sources that support the Israeli view and as others have said, you can find sources that say the total opposite.
B The part "it was impossible, whatever boundaries we might recommend, to set up an Arab State which should be self-supporting" was rejected and still stands in 10 articles. You didn't explain why you are adding similiar statements to many articles. Can't you see that this is unusual compared to other editors? I mean, you seem to copy sentences to every article about the topic.
C Your problem is that you fail to note that Israel was not ready to return all of occupied Egyptian territory, which Egypt could not accept, and that Israel was seen as the one who made the Jarring Mission fail. The article was and still a mess because it is mainly based on what the Israeli foreign ministry and their embassy in Washington write but then you added this part, which made it more one-sided, and you presented it as a fact when it was taken from Yitzhak Rabin's memoirs. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 06:56, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
With this confronting behavior , should other editors wp:Assume good faith of yours ? Ykantor ( talk) 12:18, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Zero0000: Yours:"On the contrary, it was a grotesque distortion." If it is distorted you should blame the 5 sources that my edit reflected faithfully: ShemeshTroen2005p5, Alteras1993p192, Caraccilo2011p113, Dowty2005p102, Bickerton2009p101. Your notes added important background, which should be added too. (although some are not accurate or missing relevant information). Ykantor ( talk) 14:50, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
A proposed edit: (should be expanded)
During the years before the 1956 Suez crisis, Egyptian leaders talked openly about destruction of Israel. The Egyptian Foreign Minister, said early in 1954: "The Arab people will not be embarrassed to declare: We shall not be satisfied except by the final obliteration of Israel from the map of the Middle East" [6]. Nasser said at 31.8.1955 that "There will be no peace on Israel's border because we demand vengeance, and vengeance is Israel's death." On October 14, Nasser said: "I am not solely fighting against Israel itself. My task is to deliver the Arab world from destruction through Israel's intrigue, which has its roots abroad. Our hatred is very strong. There is no sense in talking about peace with Israel. There is not even the smallest place for negotiations."
Egypt blocked the Suez canal for shipping and refused to comply with the 1951 Security Council order that Egypt should open the Canal to Israeli shipping. On 12 Sept 1955 Egypt tightened the Tiran straits block for an Israeli shipping, and closed the airspace for Israeli flights over the Gulf of Acaba.
During the early 50's , the infiltration from Gaza strip to Israel was mainly for economic reasons. Gradually, they developed into violent robbery and deliberate killing attacks. During those years, Israel responded by retaliation operations. On Apr 1954 The Egyptian military send an "official" Fedayeen across the borders. (morris,victims, p. 291). this infiltration posed a very serious problem for Israel in general and the border settlements in particular. Many of the inhabitants of the border settlements were new immigrants from Muslim countries. Infiltration from across the border placed their lives at risk, exacted a heavy economic price, and undermined their morale to the point where wholesale desertion became a real possibility. (shlaim, morris, http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005/Israels%20Dirty%20War.html) . The Egyptians tried to stop the infiltration, but it continued. The Egyptian succeeded to clamp down on civilian infiltration during Dec 1955 up to Febr 1956.
On February 28, 1955 Israeli military raid of an Egyptian Army outpost in Gaza, in retaliation for recent fedayeen attacks on Israel. The Gaza Raid resulted in the deaths of 39 Egyptian. Nasser responded by ordering the formation of Palestinian fedayeen units and employed them as an official instrument of warfare against Israel. The amount of the Fedayeen raids increased. Egyptian troops use to fire at the Israeli soldiers almost daily, there were repeated mining attacks and ambushes to the IDF patrols. Egyptian agents recruited and armed Fedayeen in Jordan and Lebanon too. (morris,victims, p. 283). The Fedayeen attacks stopped after the Israeli destroyed Khan Yunis police fort on 31.8.1955 .
In 4 Apr 1956 the Egyptians shot dead 3 Israeli soldiers, and Egyptian troops use to fire at the Israeli soldiers almost daily, there were repeated mining attacks and ambushes to the IDF patrols. At 5 April both armies were shooting each other, and Egyptians bombarded Israeli settlements. The Israeli army responded by a mortar barrage on the Gaza market: sixty-six Egyptians were killed. The incident touched off a second wave of raids by the fedayeen..." (Michael Oren, Escalation to Suez: The Egypt-Israel Border War, 1949-56, Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 24, No. 2, Studies on War. (Apr., 1989), pp. 347-373.
By late April (1956), Hammarskjold was able to bring about a cease-fire. An Egyptian ambush shot dead an Israel civilian at 29 April but Ben Gurion decided not to retaliate. The resulting calm along the demarcation lines proved only temporary. The situation deteriorated again for a few weeks in July and then improved for several months, ( Khouri 1985p204). During these months, Fedayeen continued to infiltrate and kill Israeli civilians, but they came from other Arab countries, mainly Jordan. Some sources claim that the Egyptians were behind those infiltration.
In September 1955 Nasser obtained the massive Soviet arms deal. This deal threatened to tip the military balance against Israel.
Israel received massive shipments of arms from France, although not in the scale of the Egyptian arms deal. E.g. The Egyptian-Czech arms deal included 150 Jet fighters (Mig15) Vs Israel's 16 French made Mystere and 22 Oragan fighters. On 18 March 1956, the Israeli Prime Minister had warned that 'war within a few months could not be avoided unless Israel obtained the arms needed to counter Egypt's weapons'. [7]
According to Hasan Afif El-Hasan : "Israel was looking for war to pre-empt the potential threat of Egypt's arms purchase and to thwart Nasser's support for the Palestinian guerrillas. It found one by aligning himself with the french and the British"
French promise of air support , Britain's promise to renege on its defence treaty with Jordan
In late 1956, the bellicosity of recent Arab statements prompted Israel to remove the threat of the concentrated Egyptian forces in the Sinai, and Israel invaded the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula on October 29, 1956. Other Israeli aims were elimination of the Fedayeen incursions into Israel that made life unbearable for its southern population, and opening the blockaded Straits of Tiran for Israeli ships. [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]
According to Hazem Kandil, Israel was alarmed by the Czech arms deal, and believed it had only a narrow window of opportunity to hit Egypt's army. [14]
Israel occupied much of the peninsula within a few days. As agreed, within a couple of days, Britain and France invaded too, aiming at regaining Western control of the Suez Canal and removing the Egyptian president Nasser.
--The United States and the United Nations soon pressured it into a ceasefire
Several months later Israel withdrew its forces from Sinai, following strong pressure from the United States and the Soviet Union. In return, Egypt agreed to the demilitarization of Sinai and the United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) was stationed in Sinai to prevent any further conflict in the Sinai.the Fedayeen murderous incursions into Israel were stopped.
meeting on November 15 (1956) ... Amer also lashed out at Nasser, accusing him of provoking an unnecessary war and then blaming the military for the result.â
The prominent historian and commentator Abd al-Azim Ramadan, In a series of articles published in AlWafd, subsequently compiled in a hook published in 2000, Ramadan criticized the Nasser cult, âŚ. The events leading up to the nationalization of the Suez Canal Company, as other events during Nasserâs rule, Ramadan wrote, showed Nasser to be far from a rational, responsible leader. ⌠His decision to nationalize the Suez Canal was his alone, made without political or military consultation. ⌠The source of all this evil. Ramadan noted, was Nasserâs inclination to solitary decision making⌠the revolutionary regime led by the same individualâNasserâ repeated its mistakes when it decided to expel the international peacekeeping force from the Sinai Peninsula and close the Straits of Tiran in 1967. Both decisions led to a state of war with Israel, despite the lack of military preparedness
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"On the eve of 1956 Sinai campaign...16 Mystere...22 Ouragan fighters
"meeting on November 15 (1956) ... Amer also lashed out at Nasser, accusing him of provoking an unnecessary war and then blaming the military for the result."
the prominent historian and commentator Abd al-Azim Ramadan, In a series of articles published in AlWafd, subsequently compiled in a hook published in 2000, Ramadan criticized the Nasser cult, âŚ. The events leading up to the nationalization of the Suez Canal Company, as other events during Nasser's rule, Ramadan wrote, showed Nasser to be far from a rational, responsible leader. ⌠His decision to nationalize the Suez Canal was his alone, made without political or military consultation. ⌠The source of all this evil. Ramadan noted, was Nasser's inclination to solitary decision making⌠the revolutionary regime led by the same individualâNasserâ repeated its mistakes when it decided to expel the international peacekeeping force from the Sinai Peninsula and close the Straits of Tiran in 1967. Both decisions led to a state of war with Israel, despite the lack of military preparedness
by late April (1956), Hammarskjold was able to bring about a cease-fire...The resulting calm along the demarcation lines proved only temporary. The situation deteriorated again for a few weeks in July and then improved for several months
Israel was looking for war to pre-empt the potential threat of Egypt's arms purchase and to thwart Nasser's support for the Palestinian guerrillas. It found one by aligning himself with the french and the British
In early 1954 the Egyptian Foreign Minister declared that the Arab people will not be embarrassed to declare: We shall not be satisfied except by the final obliteration of Israel from the map of the Middle East
On 18 March 1956, the Israeli Prime Minister had warned that 'war within a few months could not be avoided unless Israel obtained the arms needed to counter Egypt's weapons'
The aims were to be threefold: to remove the threat, wholly or partially, of the Egyptian rmy in the Sinai, to destroy the framework of the fedaiyyun, and to secure the freedom of navigation through the straits of Tiran.
the removal of the Egyptian blockade of the Straits of Tiran at the entrance of the Gulf of Aqaba. The blockade closed Israel's sea lane to East Africa and the Far East, hindering the development of Israel's southern port of Eilat and its hinterland, the Nege. Another important objective of the Israeli war plan was the elimination of the terrorist bases in the Gaza Strip, from which daily fedayeen incursions into Israel made life unbearable for its southern population. And last but not least, the concentration of the Egyptian forces in the Sinai Peninsula, armed with the newly acquired weapons from the Soviet bloc, prepared for an attack on Israel. Here, Ben-Gurion believed, was a time bomb that had to be defused before it was too late. Reaching the Suez Canal did not figure at all in Israel's war objectives.
The escalation continued with the Egyptian blockade of the Straits of Tiran, and Nasser's nationalization of the Suez Canal in July 1956. On October 14, Nasser made clear his intent:"I am not solely fighting against Israel itself. My task is to deliver the Arab world from destruction through Israel's intrigue, which has its roots abroad. Our hatred is very strong. There is no sense in talking about peace with Israel. There is not even the smallest place for negotiations." Less than two weeks later, on October 25, Egypt signed a tripartite agreement with Syria and Jordan placing Nasser in command of all three armies. The continued blockade of the Suez Canal and Gulf of Aqaba to Israeli shipping, combined with the increased fedayeen attacks and the bellicosity of recent Arab statements, prompted Israel, with the backing of Britain and France, to attack Egypt on October 29, 1956.
In 1955, Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser began to import arms from the Soviet Bloc to build his arsenal for the confrontation with Israel. In the short-term, however, he employed a new tactic to prosecute Egypt's war with Israel. He announced it on August 31, 1955: Egypt has decided to dispatch her heroes, the disciples of Pharaoh and the sons of Islam and they will cleanse the land of Palestine....There will be no peace on Israel's border because we demand vengeance, and vengeance is Israel's death. These "heroes" were Arab terrorists, or fedayeen, trained and equipped by Egyptian Intelligence to engage in hostile action on the border and infiltrate Israel to commit acts of sabotage and murder.
Gamal Abdel Nasser, who declared in one speech that "Egypt has decided to dispatch her heroes, the disciples of Pharaoh and the sons of Islam and they will cleanse the land of Palestine....There will be no peace on Israel's border because we demand vengeance, and vengeance is Israel's death."...The level of violence against Israelis, soldiers and civilians alike, seemed to be rising inexorably.
(p. 101) To them the murderous fedayeen raids and constant harassment were just another form of Arab warfare against Israel...(p. 102) Israel's aims were to capture the Sinai peninsula in order to open the straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping, and to seize the Gaza strip to end fedayeen attacks.
(Israel) "was alarmed by the Czech arms deal, and believed it had only a narrow window of opportunity to cripple Cairo's drive for military parity".
Is there any reference for this. It is well known that Turkey supports Palestine but this support does not extend for all the Arab world. Turkey is one of the Israel's largest arms and tech customer, they participated in joint military exercises against Iran and signed a free trade agreement etc etc. kazekagetr 08:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
In the infobox, it says that 1,723 Israeli civilian have benn killed in the conflict. This number must be incorrect, because that during 1948 Arab-Israeli war 2,400~ cicilian had been killed. When considering all other wars and armed engagements, the number should be higher than 1723. If no one will disagree, I will change the number of civilian casualties. Guy1286 ( talk) 07:38, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Year Zero of the Arab-Israeli Conflict, 1929 by Hillel Cohen, translated by Haim Watzman, 2015, Brandeis University Press/University Press of New England Jodi.a.schneider ( talk) 01:14, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
I created this table a few months ago; does it clarify things? Llywelyn2000 ( talk) 08:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Please see WT:IPCOLL#RfC: Proposal to fix a long term structural problem in Palestine Israel conflict articles. Oncenawhile ( talk) 22:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
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Given the importance of the conflict articles to our project I had hoped for more feedback at this RFC, but I think I overcomplicated the description. Some editors may also be thinking "we've been just fine for 10 years so is there really a problem here that needs solving"? I would like to encourage more editors to contribute.
The core issue behind the RFC question is that most readers know very little about the conflict and therefore need one single summary article to read and begin their journey, and we need that single summary article to broadly match the picture that the 1,000s of books summarizing this conflict take. Instead we have sat for many years with three primary articles ( IPC since 48, AIC since 48 and ICMP 20-48) which are fine but are missing something above them to thread them together into the 100-year-narrative of the conflict presented by the vast majority of books on the topic.
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At the end of paragraph "Background" it says: "as suggested, for instance, by Paul in Romans 11Cfrom the Bible.hristian Zionism teaches that the return of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Christ"
The "C" before "from the Bible" belongs to the next sentence. In addition "in the Bible" is the better preposition. Corrected version:
"as suggested, for instance, by Paul in Romans 11 in the Bible. Christian Zionism teaches that the return of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Christ"
However, as the article is locked I can't initiate the correction myself.
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The consensus is "No, we don't need a parent article; the split of three top articles ( IsraeliâPalestinian conflict, Arab-Israeli conflict, and Intercommunal conflict in Mandatory Palestine) is fine."
Per Wikipedia:Summary_style#Rationale, for major topics Wikipedia should "distribute information across related articles in a way that can serve readers who want varying amounts of details, thus giving readers the ability to zoom to the level of details they need and not exhausting those who need a primer on a whole topic". It goes on to discuss the parent-child article structure. I have tried in different ways to get the community focused on this question for the huge and complex Israel-Palestine topic, but I have continually failed to get a proper discussion going, probably because I have been asking the wrong question. Here is another attempt, with a hopefully better question.
Please could editors comment as to whether you believe that this article should be the overall parent article of the whole conflict, which began in 1917 or 1920 depending which scholar you look at. Proposed options below:
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ISTM that the conflict didn't start in the 1800s. It started in the Book of Ezra and the Book of Nehemiah (and yes, I know there were no Moslems back then).
In Ezra 4:1â4:3 the Jews reject the help of other Israelites living around Jerusalem. Hang on, are these others Israelites? They probably are descendents of Israel. But they've intermarried with other peoples and are no longer considered part of Israel by the Jews. The Jews recorded this disaster in 2 Kings 17:18. From that time on, the tribe of Judah (the Jews) considered themselves the only Israelites (occasionally also acknowledging the remnants of the tribe of Benjamin and even the tribe of Levi).
Am I the only one to have noticed this and its significance? I'm not a reliable source of course. But surely reputable scholars have discussed this too? Andrewa ( talk) 13:42, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
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Benny Morris' account of the reasons behind the refugee problem is not accepted by other historians who did research on the topic. He is also the only historian mentioned in the entry and no other point of view is given, which can give rise to bias. Mainstream historians point up that Morris did not review Arab language documents and strongly disagree with his analysis on the matter; it is likely that both the Arab leadership and the Jewish one are responsible for the refugee problem but blaming one side conclusively is not possible. See for example:
Shabtai Teveth, âThe Palestinian Refugee Problem and its Originsâ, Middle Eastern Studies, vol. 26, no. 2, 1990, pages 214-249.
and Ephraim Karsh, âFabricating Israeli History: The âNew Historiansââ, Frank Cass, London, 1997. â Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhadani ( talk ⢠contribs) 22:50, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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It is requested that on the right side of the ArabâIsraeli conflict article, in the column with the map, under Belligerents, India should be written as supporting the Arabs and Palestine. This can be accredited to the article, EgyptâIndia relations. 100.33.3.16 ( talk) 02:11, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
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The romanization of the Arabic text should be changed from Al-Sira'a Al'Arabi A'Israili to aᚣ-ᚢirÄĘża l-ĘżArabÄŤ l-ĘžIsrÄʞčlÄŤ. The current one is nonstandard and contains mistakes. Qwerty12302 ( talk | contributions) 09:22, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
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The ~1700 Israeli civilian deaths listed in the opening column seems rather low. Our very own article on the First Arab-Israeli war says 2400 Israeli civilians died in that war alone. I believe the number cited by the Ha'aretz article was specifically about those killed in terror attacks not including the larger number killed either intentionally or not by the regular armies of the Arab states. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.63.57.119 ( talk) 20:25, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Please see relevant discussion at Template talk:Portal#Portal:ArabâIsraeli conflict icon â Finnusertop ( talk â contribs) 12:55, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
It would seem to me that the external links section on this page is a violation of WP:DIRECTORY. "Wikipedia is not a directory of everything in the universe that exists or has existed." (in this case a directory of the various parties to this conflict). I propose it be blanked, or at most 1-2 links per belligerent. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 05:12, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Blanking and putting it here per WP:PRESERVE. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 20:06, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Government and official sources
Regional media
Think tanks and strategic analysis
Peace proposals
Maps
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The lead sections has been stable for quite some time, significant edits should be discussed. GreyShark ( dibra) 21:13, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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I want to add a link in the external sources that leads to the University of Utah's digital collection of Fayez A. Sayegh's accounts and thoughts on the Arab-Israeli conflict.
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The legend provided for the map in ArabâIsraeli_conflict#Shift_to_Iranian_conflict_(2006âpresent) is incomplete. It does not define most of the colors used in the map. The complete legend is (copied from [1]):
2601:401:C680:4240:A938:DF99:3F0F:9BF7 ( talk) 00:15, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
There's new DNA research on Canaanites, can somebody edit the article and add some info about this?
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/05/dna-from-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews/ Sitak87 ( talk) 22:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
It is no doubt that the conflict is over. The only countries at odds with Israel are not Arab League members (Syria is out, Hamas is not part of the League and Hezbollah is not a state, but an Iranian proxy in Lebanon). Iran's conflict with Israel is not the topic of this page. No one is using the IA conflict in present tense, so perhaps it is time to put an end date to it. I can suggest to put 2005, the end of the Al-Aqsa Intifada, is a good marking end point for the conflict, as Arab League member PLO/PA ended its warfare vs Israel. GreyShark ( dibra) 13:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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The genius changed "cite web" for "cute web", therefore erasing the source for "Time to Test the Arab Peace Offer". Some people don't check how their changes appear in article. Not so cute at all.-- Watchlonly ( talk) 10:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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Please change
Morris, Benny (2009). 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War, Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-15112-1
Reiter, Yitzhak (2009). National Minority, Regional Majority: Palestinian Arabs Versus Jews in Israel (Syracuse Studies on Peace and Conflict Resolution), Syracuse University Press (Sd). ISBN 978-0-8156-3230-6
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Morris, Benny (2009). 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War, Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-15112-1
Pressman, Jeremy (2020). The Sword is Not Enough: Arabs, Israelis, and the Limits of Military Force, Manchester University Press. ISBN 978-1-5261-4617-5
Reiter, Yitzhak (2009). National Minority, Regional Majority: Palestinian Arabs Versus Jews in Israel (Syracuse Studies on Peace and Conflict Resolution), Syracuse University Press (Sd). ISBN 978-0-8156-3230-6
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Is there an article yet about the current conflict? And can it be added to this article? Nerguy ( talk) 16:06, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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The last section for the 1948 Arab Israeli War section. No source is provided for the statement that French and Jews were not granted citizenship. Aymene Rabah ( talk) 05:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Elevedevie ( talk) 18:36, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Paragraph three of the introduction ends with: ", both however turning to support Iran." Does this mean (a) supporting Iran's position(s) in the area, or (b) attempting to gain the support of Iran for their positions in the area?
If the latter, I propose that the sentence end: ", both however turning for support to Iran" but do not want to make any change w/o consultation. Elevedevie ( talk) 04:10, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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 Done: I think that is a big problem.
The ArabâIsraeli conflict involves political tension, military conflicts, and other disputes between Arab states and Israel ImChessFan21 ( talk) 10:59, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Although the introduction is fairly well written, this section could use an edit: "Part of the PalestineâIsrael conflict arose from the conflicting claims by these movements to the land that formed the British Mandatory Palestine, which was regarded by the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland, while at the same time it was regarded by the Pan-Arab movement as historically and currently belonging to the Arab Palestinians,[7] and in the Pan-Islamic context, as Muslim lands." Though it is true that the Jewish people 'regard' Palestine as their ancestral homeland,the various historical, genetic and anthropological data are clear that they did in fact arise there; the average reader, however, would not discern this, and would instead regard this as some sort of claim. Since the phrasing seems to be motivated by a desire to take balanced view of the conflict (i.e. regarded is used twice there, applying to 'both sides' of the conflict) a complete rewording seems in order to avoid the issue. If concerned about impact on bias, one could also include content here about the evidence regarding Arab populations in the region during the Ottoman period, or in the Levant in general prior to that. 108.175.233.87 ( talk) 20:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
In the section Notable wars and violent events, another item should be added to the table: 1991, Gulf War, 74 Israelis killed by Iraqi SCUD missile attacks, Result: Israel refrains from joining war against Iraq, allowing Arab partners remain in anti_Iraq coalition This was a significant cause of tension during the war, as Iraq tried to split the coalition by attacking Israel. If Israel had responded to the attacks, Syria and Jordan may well have joined the war on Iraq's side to fight against Israel. Other Arab nations would have found the situation of being in a war with Israel against an Arab nation impossible to continue. 10:15, 13 Sep 2021 (UTC) 77.102.249.89 ( talk) 09:40, 13 September 2021 (UTC)