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Wow - Is this topic really befitting of a whole article? I guess if we are going to leave no stone unturned in the search for anti-Semitism, then it has to be here. Most such articles are very useful and provoke a "Wow - I had no idea that happened" type of response from me. Not this one which provokes more of a "Wow - they are really digging deep here to find some examples" type of response. Why not add some "In September 2005, a man was overheard on the streets of Kyoto saying disparaging things about an Israeli businessman" type stuff to really hammer home the point. Arlesd ( talk) 18:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Arlesd--say something in a stupid manner and you just might be thought of a stupid. You had every opportunity with the skills set to type and edit to have included your statement in the text and avoid making a point in a stupid manner. People have been killed for being Jewish or being thought of as accepting of Jews or those that were not offended by Jews. anti-Semitism is not a subject that is well made into comedic matter except by a skillful person. 66.74.176.59 ( talk) 05:14, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
these see also links, as well as the Israel-stub, are inappropriate here, and hidden comments saying "100% Anti-Israel and 100% Pro-Palestine, Pro-Antiseimites" are wholly inappropriate. Rd232 talk 11:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
An RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 16:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
In 2011 Japanese writer Satoshi Wagahara started a series of light novels for teenagers called The Devil Is a Part-Timer.
The central character of that series is the Devil himself, who Wagahara supposes has as its "real" name Jacob Satan (and a Japanese avatar working at McDonald called Maou Sadao). That the Devil has a first name and a last name seems to be Wagahara's invention of course.
Now, of all the first names that Wagahara could find for the Devil to wear, the choice of Jacob seems suspicious: Jacob is a typically Jewish name and that of the eponymous patriarch of the Jewish people. Note Jacob's other name is Israel. Jacob is used as synonymous to Israel as, e.g., in Ma Tovu: "How lovely are your tents, O Jacob, your dwelling places, O Israel!". Now just try to imagine for a second what the reaction would have been if Wagahara had named his Devil say Muhammad Satan or Ali Satan for example.
I'll let other more knowledgeable people determine if this qualifies as an expression of Japanese antisemitism.
I just wanted to point out this fact on the talk page to the article, so that others can comment on it.
Thank you for your kind attention,
Contact Basemetal here 11:53, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:3D Test of Antisemitism which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 10:31, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
"With only a small and relatively obscure Jewish population, Japan had no traditional antisemitism until nationalist ideology and propaganda influenced a small number of Japanese in the years preceding World War II.[Note 1] During the war, Japan's ally Nazi Germany encouraged Japan to adopt antisemitic policies. In the post-war period, extremist groups and ideologues have promoted conspiracy theories, but antisemitism has not become a widespread phenomenon in Japan."
What are the problems? Anti-Semitism existed before the Nazi's and WWII. The opportunity of exposure of Japan to anti-Semitism predates these two incidents. Japan probably has its own types of prejudice which may or may not be based on ethnicity or other not so easily changed characteristics. Japan's potential exposure to anti-Semitism dates from whenever there was an exchange of ideas from the western world to Japan. Japan did not have to wait for the Nazi's or WWII to become aware of anti-Semitism and it's possible influence on the people. The popularity of certain ideas by people in Japan can be viewed as the ability of the Japanese to accept fallacies that existed outside the country before Nazism and WWII. If Japan has the ability to influence those outside its borders then there exists the opportunity for imposing the views of a few from Japan on the many outside where Japan has either direct or indirect contact. 66.74.176.59 ( talk) 05:37, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
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The editor who wrote it, @ Mureungdowon describes themselves as a korean nationalist on their userpage and seems to be trying to subvert this article to spread their Japan bashing.
Let's look at the sources on the section in question
I'm sorry, this section is a complete mess.
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Wow - Is this topic really befitting of a whole article? I guess if we are going to leave no stone unturned in the search for anti-Semitism, then it has to be here. Most such articles are very useful and provoke a "Wow - I had no idea that happened" type of response from me. Not this one which provokes more of a "Wow - they are really digging deep here to find some examples" type of response. Why not add some "In September 2005, a man was overheard on the streets of Kyoto saying disparaging things about an Israeli businessman" type stuff to really hammer home the point. Arlesd ( talk) 18:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Arlesd--say something in a stupid manner and you just might be thought of a stupid. You had every opportunity with the skills set to type and edit to have included your statement in the text and avoid making a point in a stupid manner. People have been killed for being Jewish or being thought of as accepting of Jews or those that were not offended by Jews. anti-Semitism is not a subject that is well made into comedic matter except by a skillful person. 66.74.176.59 ( talk) 05:14, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
these see also links, as well as the Israel-stub, are inappropriate here, and hidden comments saying "100% Anti-Israel and 100% Pro-Palestine, Pro-Antiseimites" are wholly inappropriate. Rd232 talk 11:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
An RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 16:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
In 2011 Japanese writer Satoshi Wagahara started a series of light novels for teenagers called The Devil Is a Part-Timer.
The central character of that series is the Devil himself, who Wagahara supposes has as its "real" name Jacob Satan (and a Japanese avatar working at McDonald called Maou Sadao). That the Devil has a first name and a last name seems to be Wagahara's invention of course.
Now, of all the first names that Wagahara could find for the Devil to wear, the choice of Jacob seems suspicious: Jacob is a typically Jewish name and that of the eponymous patriarch of the Jewish people. Note Jacob's other name is Israel. Jacob is used as synonymous to Israel as, e.g., in Ma Tovu: "How lovely are your tents, O Jacob, your dwelling places, O Israel!". Now just try to imagine for a second what the reaction would have been if Wagahara had named his Devil say Muhammad Satan or Ali Satan for example.
I'll let other more knowledgeable people determine if this qualifies as an expression of Japanese antisemitism.
I just wanted to point out this fact on the talk page to the article, so that others can comment on it.
Thank you for your kind attention,
Contact Basemetal here 11:53, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:3D Test of Antisemitism which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 10:31, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
"With only a small and relatively obscure Jewish population, Japan had no traditional antisemitism until nationalist ideology and propaganda influenced a small number of Japanese in the years preceding World War II.[Note 1] During the war, Japan's ally Nazi Germany encouraged Japan to adopt antisemitic policies. In the post-war period, extremist groups and ideologues have promoted conspiracy theories, but antisemitism has not become a widespread phenomenon in Japan."
What are the problems? Anti-Semitism existed before the Nazi's and WWII. The opportunity of exposure of Japan to anti-Semitism predates these two incidents. Japan probably has its own types of prejudice which may or may not be based on ethnicity or other not so easily changed characteristics. Japan's potential exposure to anti-Semitism dates from whenever there was an exchange of ideas from the western world to Japan. Japan did not have to wait for the Nazi's or WWII to become aware of anti-Semitism and it's possible influence on the people. The popularity of certain ideas by people in Japan can be viewed as the ability of the Japanese to accept fallacies that existed outside the country before Nazism and WWII. If Japan has the ability to influence those outside its borders then there exists the opportunity for imposing the views of a few from Japan on the many outside where Japan has either direct or indirect contact. 66.74.176.59 ( talk) 05:37, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
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The editor who wrote it, @ Mureungdowon describes themselves as a korean nationalist on their userpage and seems to be trying to subvert this article to spread their Japan bashing.
Let's look at the sources on the section in question
I'm sorry, this section is a complete mess.
@ Mureungdowon Tdmurlock ( talk) 03:03, 3 March 2023 (UTC)