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See the links I have added above for some of these persons. olivier 08:33 Dec 9, 2002 (UTC)
Was Turgot a physiocrat? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Wow, this was posted a while ago, but to anyone else wondering, he was not a physiocrat according to http://www.boisestate.edu/econ/lreynol/web/PDF_HET/Physiocratsoutline.pdf
this is too long. it should be broken up - it is also hard to understand at times. a person trying to figure out who turgot is for the first time would be confused.
Definitely long and detailed, but needs better organization. The length and density of the text can be quite intimidating. (1) Improve and expand upon the introduction paragraph. In essence, tell us all we need to know about this person in the first paragraph, before going into the true details. And.. I don't know. I'll certainly admit I have not read through the article, but many of the elements I've glanced at can be omitted, or rephrased to sound more encyclopedic. In the last section, for example, a lot is said about his character. How do we know his character? Are his friends here to tell us what he was like? This needs to be re-worked. Also, and this is my own personal feeling, but I do not really care for the mentioning of differing academic theories, mentioning scholars (Oncken and Leon Say) by name - this is an encyclopedia, not a master's thesis. However, despite my criticisms (and they are constructive criticisms, not personal attacks on the writer(s) of this article), overall it is a wonderfully detailed entry, and it even includes a picture. I give it a B, and I think with a little work it could qualify for GA or A-Class status. LordAmeth 15:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 02:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Turgot was dismayed that the American Revolution did not abolish slavery and that a religious oath was required. I'm wondering what the latter concern was based on. What religious oath or expression of fealty was required beyond the generic "so help me God" that still exists today in many places when people testify in court or are invested with public office? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't religious restrictions on voting and holding office mostly eliminated even before the First Amendment was enacted? Surely fealty to the Church of England was eliminated.
The article, apart from being too long, clearly shows bias toward Turgot. It almost invariably presents his actions as successful regardless of the effect it then describes, which it ascribes to forces beyond his control. Thorough use of weasel words -- a "slight" increase of grain prices which leads to revolts, without mentioning or citing what "slight" means in context -- and over-explaining in order to confuse the issue. I don't know enough about Turgot himself but this article deserves to be rewritten to reduce obvious authorial judgment. Thegreatmuka ( talk) 02:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed. Jenks24 ( talk) 16:35, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Anne-Robert-Jacques Turgot, Baron de Laune →
Anne Robert Jacques Turgot – Given he is known mainly as "Turgot" and that "Laune" has other spellings (Launes, l'Aulne), the page should be moved to a simpler and more recognizable title. I removed the hyphens because the French WP does; I wouldn't mind if we retained them.
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Numerous websites state that Turgot was jewish, and was one of the reasons Louis XVI was positive to them. Is it true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:58A:8003:E46D:1803:2969:17B1:AD08 ( talk) 00:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
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Who are:
See the links I have added above for some of these persons. olivier 08:33 Dec 9, 2002 (UTC)
Was Turgot a physiocrat? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Wow, this was posted a while ago, but to anyone else wondering, he was not a physiocrat according to http://www.boisestate.edu/econ/lreynol/web/PDF_HET/Physiocratsoutline.pdf
this is too long. it should be broken up - it is also hard to understand at times. a person trying to figure out who turgot is for the first time would be confused.
Definitely long and detailed, but needs better organization. The length and density of the text can be quite intimidating. (1) Improve and expand upon the introduction paragraph. In essence, tell us all we need to know about this person in the first paragraph, before going into the true details. And.. I don't know. I'll certainly admit I have not read through the article, but many of the elements I've glanced at can be omitted, or rephrased to sound more encyclopedic. In the last section, for example, a lot is said about his character. How do we know his character? Are his friends here to tell us what he was like? This needs to be re-worked. Also, and this is my own personal feeling, but I do not really care for the mentioning of differing academic theories, mentioning scholars (Oncken and Leon Say) by name - this is an encyclopedia, not a master's thesis. However, despite my criticisms (and they are constructive criticisms, not personal attacks on the writer(s) of this article), overall it is a wonderfully detailed entry, and it even includes a picture. I give it a B, and I think with a little work it could qualify for GA or A-Class status. LordAmeth 15:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 02:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Turgot was dismayed that the American Revolution did not abolish slavery and that a religious oath was required. I'm wondering what the latter concern was based on. What religious oath or expression of fealty was required beyond the generic "so help me God" that still exists today in many places when people testify in court or are invested with public office? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't religious restrictions on voting and holding office mostly eliminated even before the First Amendment was enacted? Surely fealty to the Church of England was eliminated.
The article, apart from being too long, clearly shows bias toward Turgot. It almost invariably presents his actions as successful regardless of the effect it then describes, which it ascribes to forces beyond his control. Thorough use of weasel words -- a "slight" increase of grain prices which leads to revolts, without mentioning or citing what "slight" means in context -- and over-explaining in order to confuse the issue. I don't know enough about Turgot himself but this article deserves to be rewritten to reduce obvious authorial judgment. Thegreatmuka ( talk) 02:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed. Jenks24 ( talk) 16:35, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Anne-Robert-Jacques Turgot, Baron de Laune →
Anne Robert Jacques Turgot – Given he is known mainly as "Turgot" and that "Laune" has other spellings (Launes, l'Aulne), the page should be moved to a simpler and more recognizable title. I removed the hyphens because the French WP does; I wouldn't mind if we retained them.
Srnec (
talk) 20:22, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.How can Anne Robert be the youngest son of Michel-Étienne Turgot, and yet have a younger brother, Étienne-François Turgot? How does that work? Stevenmitchell ( talk) 08:30, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Numerous websites state that Turgot was jewish, and was one of the reasons Louis XVI was positive to them. Is it true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:58A:8003:E46D:1803:2969:17B1:AD08 ( talk) 00:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)