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MICHEL RECENDEZ Many Russian names Andrei or Andrey are spelled differenly. On two different pages this players name is spelled in different ways. I recommend that it be spelled with an i at the end. After a while if no one says different I will change it. Likthem
Didn't Arshavin himself confirm the spelling to be "Andrey". Sky Sports and the Daily Mirror both confirmed this I believe and have used the spelling Andrey in their news reports.
ANDREY Arshavin has confirmed himself his name is spelt with an Y. This was said on Sky Sports News, and can be seen on his own website, aswell on the website of his new club Arsenal. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/factfile-on-andrey-arshavin As i am new to wikipedia i do not know how to submit a "move request" to have this changed. If anyone could help me that would be much appreciated. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marvinarshavin ( talk • contribs) 20:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC) [This comment was moved by myself as there were two "Spelling" sections listed in this discussion] I am russian. my name is AndreY Burtsev (Андрей Бурцев). i now that Андрей must spelling Andrey. Andrey Burtsev
http://www.arshavin.com/en/ - Andrey Arshavin - Serijvip ( talk) 00:59, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Andrei Arshavin normally is an outfield player but ever since signing to Arsenal F.C. the manager, Arsene Wenger being a grade A bigot. He has placed Andrei Arshavin at the mouth of goal. All the other players have some sort of African heritage playing outfield. This has caused alot of tumult and controversy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.38.201.5 ( talk) 10:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
On the official Zenit St. Petersburg website his name is listed as Andrey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whiteknight666 ( talk • contribs) 17:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC) As a compromise I listed both spellings
Since joining Arsenal Andrey Has Stated his name is spelt with a Y as opposed to an I.-- 194.74.242.33 ( talk) 00:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
This article has been renamed from Andrey Arshavin to Andrei Arshavin as the result of a move request. See Talk:Vyacheslav Malafeev for an archive of the proposal. — Ash063 09:48, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Would be nice if people called my country's team right (The Netherlands)... We aren't simply named "Holland" you know.. ADB15 ( talk) 21:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Also, their are inaccuracies in the information of the page. As of June 22, Andrey Arshavin has scored 67 goals in official play for Zenit Whiteknight666 ( talk) 17:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)WhiteKnight666
Anderson aka ochoa the hooligan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ochoamu ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Andrey Arshavin Will wear the number 23 shirt for Arsenal Football Club. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.51.123 ( talk) 22:02, 27 June 2008
Arsenal fc have had a €10million offer rejected, but are poised to make another approach of about 14million. Whiteknight666 ( talk) 01:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)WhiteKnight666 (UTC) on 20th of january Arsenal f.c of London,England smash there record tranfer fee and sign Arshaven
The deal looks to be off, Sky Sports News had a report sent to them from Zenit saying the deal was off that was at 17:30pm on 2nd Feb 09. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.174.93 ( talk) 17:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Arshavin images
[img] http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/feb2009/7/4/3CD22C45-0FEA-34E5-1A66681EA468CBE5.jpg[/img]
[img] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01252/Andrei_Arshavin_1252484c.jpg[/img]
Agreeing to someone should change it......he will be arsenal player on thursday 27th jan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsenal1193 ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
We still need a better one; these are low quality images for such a high quality player! ( talk), 7:50 PM 21 March 2009 (ET)
Can you delete/undo these Arsenal rumors listed on his article? This is not the place for it! Let's not turn wikipedia into a cheap online tabloid! Rumor hunting are what the likes of goal.com are for. Until he has signed for someone, I see no reason to start burning your tires.. it's quite annoying seeing this kind of thing. i supposed temporarily it's alright but ask yourself, who in their right mind goes to wikipedia to get up to date football info?-- Fly05 ( talk) 09:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I read a couple of articles about Arshavin possibly leaving for Arsenal. – Michael ( talk) 22:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
It'd be ridiculous to name every club that ever made a bid for Arshavin. I'm sure Ramos was confident in August when trying to sign him for Spurs. Same with Barcelona etc etc etc etc etc.............. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.49.142 ( talk) 09:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Arshavin moves to Arsenal! [2] Yoda1893 ( talk) 20:34, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes More sources: [3]
Stop changing the article please.
How can I lock the article? Its getting kind of annoying.
Arshavin is already an Arsenal player so you could change it :) —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Aspirina (
talk •
contribs) 21:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Andrei Arshavin has NOT YET joined Arsenal from Zenit St Petersburg. Arsenal are waiting for necessary paperwork to be signed by the Premier League. Please read these "sources" more clearly:
[4] states clearly: "The Gunners are now merely waiting on the Premier League to sign all the necessary paperwork for the deal to be made official."
[5] states clearly: "...although we are atill awaiting official confirmation from the clubs and player."
Please stop changing the article until both clubs and/or the player make an OFFICIAL announcement. Captain Alaric ( talk) 21:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
It is done. I mean when a baby is born it isnt born until the papers are signed for this birth cert? Please....It is done. Change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.55.10.46 ( talk) 22:53, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
To be fair, the Canadian Press (hardly the best source for football, but a source none the less) is reporting the deal as done and complete. [6] -- 99.224.245.159 ( talk) 23:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
On the Russian chanell one it was announced today.
The Russian minister of sports already commented it. [7].
And here are the news from the most offical Russian sports site:
Arshavin before it was offical announced he will play under the 23 number if he moved: [8]
And here is the offical confirmation from Zenit: [9]
It's offical. MaIl1989 ( talk) 12:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Arsenal have now confirmed on their website that he will wear the number 23 shirt. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vernonflorida ( talk • contribs) 17:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
As the move is now absolutely official and complete can someone update the top photo? or at least remove it as it shows Arshavin in his old club's colours Aion707 ( talk) 15:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was not moved. There are going to be some who look at the clear majority below and claim that it should be moved, so I'd better explain my reasoning here. An editor closing a discussion has to take policy into account. In this case, WP:COMMONNAME is clear policy, and supporters of this move have largely been unable to show that "Andrey" is the currently most common spelling. For more on common names versus official names, please see WP:Official names. -- Aervanath ( talk) 15:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Andrei Arshavin → Andrey Arshavin — Following the discussion above, and in light of the fact both his former club and his current club's official websites both spell it with a "y", I think we can take it as a clear sign that is how he prefers to spell his name in English. — Qwghlm ( talk) 10:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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The "Y" Spelling should be implemented ASAP due to the overwhelming Support indicated for the change. Wikipedia is a democracy and I would hope that just because a vocal few, whose main argument for keeping the spelling Andrei is Google search results, would back down and allow changes be made to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.155.212 ( talk) 14:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
All we need do is get a look at his English work permit. This would resolve this issue. A UK Government issued work permit would have to the internationally recognised spelling of his translated first name. OK not an easy document to get hold of, but it would resolve the problem. Aion707 ( talk) 15:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
no, eat me out. its spelt with an Y. Arshavin himself confirmed this the day he signed for Arsenal. If you look at his own website, which he runs himself, it is also spelt with a Y. Marvinarshavin ( talk) 10:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Google test (another one). Google News is a news aggregator allows to limit the search scope to "today", for instance. Results:
So, in the latest news publications AndreY - 422 pages, AndreI - 6293 pages. -- BaldPark ( talk) 21:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
people keep on changing number of goals to include the goal that was counted as an own goal by Blackburn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rybkin ( talk • contribs) 17:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
10 league appearances & 6 goals as of May 03, 2009.... Source: http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players/andrey-arshavin (Arsenal FC's very own website) ---- Gagandeep ( talk) 04:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
For all those people citing google search numbers to prove that Andrei spelling is more popular than Andrey, you are forgetting one thing: You have to remove Wikipedia itself from the search, otherwise you're using Wikipedia's spelling to justify the continuation of that spelling.
Google Search results:
So Google Search actually favors the 'y' spelling.
Not just Wikipedia, but lots of mirrors of it, and people using wikipedia as their source. Run the two different google searches and check out which sites disappear.
But that's a circular argument! We can't ask how many people use a certain spelling to determine what Wiki should use, and then just look at the people who use wikipedia as their only source - they're just reflecting what we write. And, as a result, will reflect any choice we make, regardless of whether it's a mistake or not. So to figure out which spelling is preferred outside of wikipedia, you HAVE to discount those websites.
Guys, what is the rationale for having the image with a border or without a border? Maybe explaining it here will help resolve the dispute. Chensiyuan ( talk) 15:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
I was here long ago doing Russian footballers (not all on this user) and one of them got famous. Now everyone wants to "contribute" aka be a control freak. Fine. I don't care. I'm disillusioned with wikipedia anyways. But I had some time to kill so I came here and wa la, a major f**k-up even by wiki's high standards. Arshavin earning the nickname the Russian Pele? Russia Today is a Kremlin network which uploads many videos on youtube. They use eye-catching headlines (which have no basis in reality and are often plain wrong) to get views, just like any tabloid. This one reads "Andrey Arshavin: Russia's answer to Pele". The Daily Mail in a Video Special used this crappy clip as well as it's title. And we're using a Video Special as a reputable source!! They used one of my video's before!
In short; No body in Russia calls Arshavin Russia's Pele. Arshavin has said many times his nickname is SHAVA. I posted this in his "Personal Information" below his full-name before, but it was taken down because apparently a youtube clip of the player himself being interviewed on the subject was not seen as a reasonable source, but the title of a crappy compilation clip by a pro-russian propaganda network, is. RIGHT.
For the sake of my eyes, please!!! don't call him the Russian Pele again. It's cringe worthy.
And for the record, some newspaper or pundit somewhere during the tournament(I forgot who) compared his impact on Euro 2008 to that of Pele in the 58' World Cup, because >>>both missed the first two games, yet came in and set the world a light, then came off the pitch in tears.<<< But that is where the similarities end. Pele was 17, Arshavin 27. Brazil won the World Cup, Russia made it to the semi's of the Euro. If anyone cares he imitates Streltsov, (or at least did when he was at Zenit in a free-role) but plays more like Baggio.
Fly05 (
talk) 18:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
'He is the most expensive player in the North London club's transfer history.'
according to various sources, arsenal only paid 12 million upfront for him with various other fees being performance and apperance-based. the actual transfer value has not been disclosed by the club - if it was only 12 million though it would make him less costly than reyes and wiltord. does anyoe have a source from the club stating that this was a record signing? Jw2035 ( talk) 07:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Arshavin's picture has been vandalised. Gnaaye
In "height" it reads: "too small". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.156.84.115 ( talk) 12:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Is his name pronounced as ar-SHAH-vin or ar-SHAV-in in Russian? I'm quite sure it's not ar-SHAY-vin or AR-shuh-vin although I've heard some commentators use them. Spiderone 10:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
ar-SHAV-in--
Ierpeldeng (
talk) 19:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
ar-SHA-vin. Stress on the second syllable. Both "A"s are open (so more like a "U" in "luck" in English). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.76.87.243 ( talk) 23:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the "Personal Life" section of the article as it is a straight copy vio from the Daily Mail reference provided ( here). Fenix down ( talk) 15:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure this should be added to the "Individual" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.66.181.115 ( talk) 06:03, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
References
Some idiot in Malaysia put in copy that said he has joined AC Milan, I've undone this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gooneradam ( talk • contribs) 11:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Could there be more info on that? Thanks. 66.108.223.179 ( talk) 16:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia states that articles should have a neutral point of view. Parts of this article read more like a fan piece than a neutral article. Examples include "Arshavin scored the unbelievable, wonder dream winning goal" (no citation); "undeniably one of his most important and greatest goals of all time" (no citation); "disappointingly ending 1–1" - disappointingly from an Arsenal viewpoint, presumably, but not neutral; "Arshavin was a fouled in the area by a defender, but referee Anthony Taylor said no penalty" (no citation); "Taylor's assistant referee flagged him offside when he was clearly "onside" " citation, for what it is worth, points to the Arsenal official website which does not say anything about the player being clearly onside; "disappointing 0–0 draw" again, an Arsenal viewpoint, not a neutral one; "he scored a magnificent goal" (no citation); "from 23 yards" no citation, and most reports place him in the 18-yard area when he shot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.78.113.193 ( talk) 20:18, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
OK - done! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.78.113.193 ( talk) 22:44, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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The article says Arshavin has been playing for Russia U-21 since 2009, when he would have been 28 years of age? I suppose he could be an overage player, but this seems like a typo to me. Drawley ( talk) 10:17, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
This article has been way too messy for a long time. It has poor choice of words, poor grammar, poor spelling, poor punctuation, EVERYTHING!!!!! Please, can someone edit this page in a very mature and experienced manner???!!! I love Andrey Arshavin, so that's why we must need to have a clean and neat article for him. Look at the other articles, like Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, Wayne Rooney, etc. Their all organized and neat. And also, whenever Arshavin scores, or if there's big news about him, write it down on his page. Please, make it something better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I am impressed that someone did make some editing for this beloved article. But, it's still not good enough. There were many articles on the internet from Google surrounding the topic of Arshavin against Manchester United about his mistakes. Could someone find them and put them in this article??? Is that so hard???????????????????? I've been the only one making this article clean, then some fool comes here and deletes it. It's a lot of hard work when you think about. Also, Arshavin scored a Carling Cup against Bolton, MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone for God's sake edit that as well. And upload some cool pictures of him too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN ( talk • contribs) 00:15, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Can someone make a career totals section for Arshavin for God's sake????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN ( talk • contribs) 19:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 05:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Andrei Arshavin → Andrey Arshavin – He identifies himself as Andrey on his official wesbite [16] and Twitter account. [17] and these transfer stories do the same. [18] [19] [20] Unreal7 ( talk) 10:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
In the section referencing his move back to Zenit there is an unsourced comment about corner flags and his height, can an admin remove? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.30.103 ( talk) 13:32, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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MICHEL RECENDEZ Many Russian names Andrei or Andrey are spelled differenly. On two different pages this players name is spelled in different ways. I recommend that it be spelled with an i at the end. After a while if no one says different I will change it. Likthem
Didn't Arshavin himself confirm the spelling to be "Andrey". Sky Sports and the Daily Mirror both confirmed this I believe and have used the spelling Andrey in their news reports.
ANDREY Arshavin has confirmed himself his name is spelt with an Y. This was said on Sky Sports News, and can be seen on his own website, aswell on the website of his new club Arsenal. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/factfile-on-andrey-arshavin As i am new to wikipedia i do not know how to submit a "move request" to have this changed. If anyone could help me that would be much appreciated. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marvinarshavin ( talk • contribs) 20:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC) [This comment was moved by myself as there were two "Spelling" sections listed in this discussion] I am russian. my name is AndreY Burtsev (Андрей Бурцев). i now that Андрей must spelling Andrey. Andrey Burtsev
http://www.arshavin.com/en/ - Andrey Arshavin - Serijvip ( talk) 00:59, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Andrei Arshavin normally is an outfield player but ever since signing to Arsenal F.C. the manager, Arsene Wenger being a grade A bigot. He has placed Andrei Arshavin at the mouth of goal. All the other players have some sort of African heritage playing outfield. This has caused alot of tumult and controversy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.38.201.5 ( talk) 10:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
On the official Zenit St. Petersburg website his name is listed as Andrey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whiteknight666 ( talk • contribs) 17:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC) As a compromise I listed both spellings
Since joining Arsenal Andrey Has Stated his name is spelt with a Y as opposed to an I.-- 194.74.242.33 ( talk) 00:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
This article has been renamed from Andrey Arshavin to Andrei Arshavin as the result of a move request. See Talk:Vyacheslav Malafeev for an archive of the proposal. — Ash063 09:48, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Would be nice if people called my country's team right (The Netherlands)... We aren't simply named "Holland" you know.. ADB15 ( talk) 21:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Also, their are inaccuracies in the information of the page. As of June 22, Andrey Arshavin has scored 67 goals in official play for Zenit Whiteknight666 ( talk) 17:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)WhiteKnight666
Anderson aka ochoa the hooligan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ochoamu ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Andrey Arshavin Will wear the number 23 shirt for Arsenal Football Club. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.51.123 ( talk) 22:02, 27 June 2008
Arsenal fc have had a €10million offer rejected, but are poised to make another approach of about 14million. Whiteknight666 ( talk) 01:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)WhiteKnight666 (UTC) on 20th of january Arsenal f.c of London,England smash there record tranfer fee and sign Arshaven
The deal looks to be off, Sky Sports News had a report sent to them from Zenit saying the deal was off that was at 17:30pm on 2nd Feb 09. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.174.93 ( talk) 17:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Arshavin images
[img] http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/feb2009/7/4/3CD22C45-0FEA-34E5-1A66681EA468CBE5.jpg[/img]
[img] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01252/Andrei_Arshavin_1252484c.jpg[/img]
Agreeing to someone should change it......he will be arsenal player on thursday 27th jan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsenal1193 ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
We still need a better one; these are low quality images for such a high quality player! ( talk), 7:50 PM 21 March 2009 (ET)
Can you delete/undo these Arsenal rumors listed on his article? This is not the place for it! Let's not turn wikipedia into a cheap online tabloid! Rumor hunting are what the likes of goal.com are for. Until he has signed for someone, I see no reason to start burning your tires.. it's quite annoying seeing this kind of thing. i supposed temporarily it's alright but ask yourself, who in their right mind goes to wikipedia to get up to date football info?-- Fly05 ( talk) 09:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I read a couple of articles about Arshavin possibly leaving for Arsenal. – Michael ( talk) 22:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
It'd be ridiculous to name every club that ever made a bid for Arshavin. I'm sure Ramos was confident in August when trying to sign him for Spurs. Same with Barcelona etc etc etc etc etc.............. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.49.142 ( talk) 09:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Arshavin moves to Arsenal! [2] Yoda1893 ( talk) 20:34, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes More sources: [3]
Stop changing the article please.
How can I lock the article? Its getting kind of annoying.
Arshavin is already an Arsenal player so you could change it :) —Preceding
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talk •
contribs) 21:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Andrei Arshavin has NOT YET joined Arsenal from Zenit St Petersburg. Arsenal are waiting for necessary paperwork to be signed by the Premier League. Please read these "sources" more clearly:
[4] states clearly: "The Gunners are now merely waiting on the Premier League to sign all the necessary paperwork for the deal to be made official."
[5] states clearly: "...although we are atill awaiting official confirmation from the clubs and player."
Please stop changing the article until both clubs and/or the player make an OFFICIAL announcement. Captain Alaric ( talk) 21:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
It is done. I mean when a baby is born it isnt born until the papers are signed for this birth cert? Please....It is done. Change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.55.10.46 ( talk) 22:53, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
To be fair, the Canadian Press (hardly the best source for football, but a source none the less) is reporting the deal as done and complete. [6] -- 99.224.245.159 ( talk) 23:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
On the Russian chanell one it was announced today.
The Russian minister of sports already commented it. [7].
And here are the news from the most offical Russian sports site:
Arshavin before it was offical announced he will play under the 23 number if he moved: [8]
And here is the offical confirmation from Zenit: [9]
It's offical. MaIl1989 ( talk) 12:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Arsenal have now confirmed on their website that he will wear the number 23 shirt. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vernonflorida ( talk • contribs) 17:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
As the move is now absolutely official and complete can someone update the top photo? or at least remove it as it shows Arshavin in his old club's colours Aion707 ( talk) 15:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was not moved. There are going to be some who look at the clear majority below and claim that it should be moved, so I'd better explain my reasoning here. An editor closing a discussion has to take policy into account. In this case, WP:COMMONNAME is clear policy, and supporters of this move have largely been unable to show that "Andrey" is the currently most common spelling. For more on common names versus official names, please see WP:Official names. -- Aervanath ( talk) 15:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Andrei Arshavin → Andrey Arshavin — Following the discussion above, and in light of the fact both his former club and his current club's official websites both spell it with a "y", I think we can take it as a clear sign that is how he prefers to spell his name in English. — Qwghlm ( talk) 10:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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The "Y" Spelling should be implemented ASAP due to the overwhelming Support indicated for the change. Wikipedia is a democracy and I would hope that just because a vocal few, whose main argument for keeping the spelling Andrei is Google search results, would back down and allow changes be made to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.155.212 ( talk) 14:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
All we need do is get a look at his English work permit. This would resolve this issue. A UK Government issued work permit would have to the internationally recognised spelling of his translated first name. OK not an easy document to get hold of, but it would resolve the problem. Aion707 ( talk) 15:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
no, eat me out. its spelt with an Y. Arshavin himself confirmed this the day he signed for Arsenal. If you look at his own website, which he runs himself, it is also spelt with a Y. Marvinarshavin ( talk) 10:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Google test (another one). Google News is a news aggregator allows to limit the search scope to "today", for instance. Results:
So, in the latest news publications AndreY - 422 pages, AndreI - 6293 pages. -- BaldPark ( talk) 21:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
people keep on changing number of goals to include the goal that was counted as an own goal by Blackburn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rybkin ( talk • contribs) 17:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
10 league appearances & 6 goals as of May 03, 2009.... Source: http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players/andrey-arshavin (Arsenal FC's very own website) ---- Gagandeep ( talk) 04:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
For all those people citing google search numbers to prove that Andrei spelling is more popular than Andrey, you are forgetting one thing: You have to remove Wikipedia itself from the search, otherwise you're using Wikipedia's spelling to justify the continuation of that spelling.
Google Search results:
So Google Search actually favors the 'y' spelling.
Not just Wikipedia, but lots of mirrors of it, and people using wikipedia as their source. Run the two different google searches and check out which sites disappear.
But that's a circular argument! We can't ask how many people use a certain spelling to determine what Wiki should use, and then just look at the people who use wikipedia as their only source - they're just reflecting what we write. And, as a result, will reflect any choice we make, regardless of whether it's a mistake or not. So to figure out which spelling is preferred outside of wikipedia, you HAVE to discount those websites.
Guys, what is the rationale for having the image with a border or without a border? Maybe explaining it here will help resolve the dispute. Chensiyuan ( talk) 15:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
I was here long ago doing Russian footballers (not all on this user) and one of them got famous. Now everyone wants to "contribute" aka be a control freak. Fine. I don't care. I'm disillusioned with wikipedia anyways. But I had some time to kill so I came here and wa la, a major f**k-up even by wiki's high standards. Arshavin earning the nickname the Russian Pele? Russia Today is a Kremlin network which uploads many videos on youtube. They use eye-catching headlines (which have no basis in reality and are often plain wrong) to get views, just like any tabloid. This one reads "Andrey Arshavin: Russia's answer to Pele". The Daily Mail in a Video Special used this crappy clip as well as it's title. And we're using a Video Special as a reputable source!! They used one of my video's before!
In short; No body in Russia calls Arshavin Russia's Pele. Arshavin has said many times his nickname is SHAVA. I posted this in his "Personal Information" below his full-name before, but it was taken down because apparently a youtube clip of the player himself being interviewed on the subject was not seen as a reasonable source, but the title of a crappy compilation clip by a pro-russian propaganda network, is. RIGHT.
For the sake of my eyes, please!!! don't call him the Russian Pele again. It's cringe worthy.
And for the record, some newspaper or pundit somewhere during the tournament(I forgot who) compared his impact on Euro 2008 to that of Pele in the 58' World Cup, because >>>both missed the first two games, yet came in and set the world a light, then came off the pitch in tears.<<< But that is where the similarities end. Pele was 17, Arshavin 27. Brazil won the World Cup, Russia made it to the semi's of the Euro. If anyone cares he imitates Streltsov, (or at least did when he was at Zenit in a free-role) but plays more like Baggio.
Fly05 (
talk) 18:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
'He is the most expensive player in the North London club's transfer history.'
according to various sources, arsenal only paid 12 million upfront for him with various other fees being performance and apperance-based. the actual transfer value has not been disclosed by the club - if it was only 12 million though it would make him less costly than reyes and wiltord. does anyoe have a source from the club stating that this was a record signing? Jw2035 ( talk) 07:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Arshavin's picture has been vandalised. Gnaaye
In "height" it reads: "too small". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.156.84.115 ( talk) 12:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Is his name pronounced as ar-SHAH-vin or ar-SHAV-in in Russian? I'm quite sure it's not ar-SHAY-vin or AR-shuh-vin although I've heard some commentators use them. Spiderone 10:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
ar-SHAV-in--
Ierpeldeng (
talk) 19:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
ar-SHA-vin. Stress on the second syllable. Both "A"s are open (so more like a "U" in "luck" in English). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.76.87.243 ( talk) 23:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the "Personal Life" section of the article as it is a straight copy vio from the Daily Mail reference provided ( here). Fenix down ( talk) 15:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure this should be added to the "Individual" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.66.181.115 ( talk) 06:03, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
References
Some idiot in Malaysia put in copy that said he has joined AC Milan, I've undone this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gooneradam ( talk • contribs) 11:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Could there be more info on that? Thanks. 66.108.223.179 ( talk) 16:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia states that articles should have a neutral point of view. Parts of this article read more like a fan piece than a neutral article. Examples include "Arshavin scored the unbelievable, wonder dream winning goal" (no citation); "undeniably one of his most important and greatest goals of all time" (no citation); "disappointingly ending 1–1" - disappointingly from an Arsenal viewpoint, presumably, but not neutral; "Arshavin was a fouled in the area by a defender, but referee Anthony Taylor said no penalty" (no citation); "Taylor's assistant referee flagged him offside when he was clearly "onside" " citation, for what it is worth, points to the Arsenal official website which does not say anything about the player being clearly onside; "disappointing 0–0 draw" again, an Arsenal viewpoint, not a neutral one; "he scored a magnificent goal" (no citation); "from 23 yards" no citation, and most reports place him in the 18-yard area when he shot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.78.113.193 ( talk) 20:18, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
OK - done! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.78.113.193 ( talk) 22:44, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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The article says Arshavin has been playing for Russia U-21 since 2009, when he would have been 28 years of age? I suppose he could be an overage player, but this seems like a typo to me. Drawley ( talk) 10:17, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
This article has been way too messy for a long time. It has poor choice of words, poor grammar, poor spelling, poor punctuation, EVERYTHING!!!!! Please, can someone edit this page in a very mature and experienced manner???!!! I love Andrey Arshavin, so that's why we must need to have a clean and neat article for him. Look at the other articles, like Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, Wayne Rooney, etc. Their all organized and neat. And also, whenever Arshavin scores, or if there's big news about him, write it down on his page. Please, make it something better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I am impressed that someone did make some editing for this beloved article. But, it's still not good enough. There were many articles on the internet from Google surrounding the topic of Arshavin against Manchester United about his mistakes. Could someone find them and put them in this article??? Is that so hard???????????????????? I've been the only one making this article clean, then some fool comes here and deletes it. It's a lot of hard work when you think about. Also, Arshavin scored a Carling Cup against Bolton, MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone for God's sake edit that as well. And upload some cool pictures of him too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN ( talk • contribs) 00:15, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Can someone make a career totals section for Arshavin for God's sake????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN ( talk • contribs) 19:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 05:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Andrei Arshavin → Andrey Arshavin – He identifies himself as Andrey on his official wesbite [16] and Twitter account. [17] and these transfer stories do the same. [18] [19] [20] Unreal7 ( talk) 10:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
In the section referencing his move back to Zenit there is an unsourced comment about corner flags and his height, can an admin remove? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.30.103 ( talk) 13:32, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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