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I added the infobox to the article to give it more of a presentable look (also uploaded DVD cover). I also removed the very large summary, that appeared to be taken from somewhere else. I replaced it with one I wrote based on my knowladge of the movie, and several other sites with a synopsis of the movie. Feel free to change it around, but the original was just way too long, and I know who would want to read that gordonFreeman from halflife 1&2 dies!!!1
I also added some formatting to the paragraphs, and added some bullet points to some of the lower sections.
As for the released date, I found two conflicting reports of the release date, but I just left the one that was in the article previously, if anyone can find the final information, please post it in here what it is, and update it accordingly. Lightdarkness 00:02, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Christmas Carol
All Dogs Go to Heaven Christmas Carol in britan is called an all dogs Christmas Carol should this be added? No
According to IMDB, Charlie's singing voice is done by Jesse Corti, can anyone tell me if this is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.2.129 ( talk) 19:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that is true. ;) CarrieOkie86 ( talk) 13:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Apparently Wiki folk like to stick with info given out at the time of a movie/show's release by its company, even if that info is wrong. Fine by me! In this instance, Sasha is obviously not an Irish Setter, but whatever.
Ah. Thank you to whomever edited her breed with a little explanation--yes, regardless of what MGM may have said, Sasha looks like a Saluki and not like an Irish Setter. (Although it is more a matter of overall impression than of one or two individual things such as ear shapes or coat lengths, which can always vary, the correction & the reasons given ARE correct--everything about her design says Saluki.) CarrieOkie86 ( talk) 02:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I suppose it’s appropriate to leave the following brief explanation in the summary (even though it doesn’t affect the plot):
(There has been debate over Sasha's breed in the movie because of her Saluki-like physical appearance, but she is officially labeled as an Irish Setter by the company. An example of this intent being her purposefully designed reddish-brown coat and smaller stature.)
That’s what it says at the moment. Still, I feel the need to elaborate on that here. First, whatever the official company sources’ reasons may have been for saying Irish Setter, Sasha LaFleur is very plainly a Saluki. (I only accept correct information, regardless of the source.) They may have had that intention when choosing a red-brown coat, but that doesn’t make her a Setter; Salukis come in her color (indeed, in a vast array of dog colors) and look far more like her. As for the “smaller stature” mention, I don’t see the point there at all. It happens that Sasha is a perfect size to be a Saluki (a breed that varies greatly in so many ways.) An average female of both breeds would probably be very similar in size/height--perhaps around 25”, possibly a few more or less. Many female Salukis are quite small. So if the author of the above comments sees her as having a “smaller stature” in comparison to something unspecified, well, it has nothing to do with the filmmaker’s intentions regarding her breed. Sorry for being a bit long-winded, but I wanted to clarify the “debate.” BellatrixKidriver ( talk) 15:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree she looks like a Saluki, and while I have yet to find viable information supporting that the company actually said what breed she is, all of her appearances could easily point to an Irish Setter as well, it's called cartooning, it's not always going to look exactly like anything, Charlie doesn't look EXACTLY like a German Shepherd, Annabel doesn't look exactly like a whippet (note the GIGANTIC floof of hair). So, she's not CLEARLY anything with all the room there is for variation. Why not a mix? She's a "street dog", she could plainly be a variant of both. You and and the author to the quote above could both be correct in your arguments. I work as an illustrator, and have always been a die hard fan of animated movies especially All Dogs Go to Heaven, even if the 2nd one unfortunately contained no work of Don Bluth, and can appreciate the fact that influence can come from a variety of sources. While she easily looks like a Saluki, she could easily be an Irish Setter too, I see an influence of both in there judging by their appearance. Her design is not all that complicated either, pinching and pulling could have occured. Take a look at this: http://www.animalrentals.com/images/Poochies/IrishSetter.jpg. That could just as easily draw influence, just as a Saluki. I did some research more into any other encyclopedia entries other than wikipedia that contained information on this movie, and all of them indicated Sasha as an Irish Setter. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/All-Dogs-Go-to-Heaven-2. I'm willing to see either view though, the breeds both carry similarities and differences that could have formed Sasha, and while I would like to tend to stick with the companies original breed intentions as being the true breed of Sasha (whatever breed that may be, Saluki or Irish Setter) I think it is very naive of you to automatically assume that Sasha is "very plainly a Saluki" or "Sasha looks like a Saluki, and not like an Irish Setter" Amber2916 ( talk) 06:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Just recently watching the movie, I noticed a mistake in the scene Carface and Charlie first met on Earth. After Carface shows his collar, Charlie questions where he got it. In that scene, Charlie is wearing the magic red collar even though he's not even met Red yet. I don't know if it should be added or what but I'm just putting up what I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.208.211 ( talk) 01:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
So apparently someone was still here to do the joke, I deleted their post, anymore people who want to put the joke in here, it's confirmed, the cast wants the joke to stop. It's over.-- 3nic5535 ( talk) 21:26, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Just wanted to know. — comment added by ATPStorages ( talk) 10:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Why is everyone obsessed with Benrey editing Gordon Freeman dying in this article that they got the article protected for editing? It was funny, but it got ruined when even WayneRadioTV himself had to ask everyone to stop.
Iceflame248 ( talk) 03:25, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Maybe we could all meet in the middle and end this madness by just saying that All Dogs go to Heaven 2 was mentioned in HLVRAI? 9/23/2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1709:20E2:55D0:D828:7B03:4FC6 ( talk) 15:49, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Is there independent coverage of HLVRAI's mention of All Dogs Go To Heaven 2 to warrant the inclusion of an "in popular culture" section? I can't seem to find anything that establishes it as particularly significant after a quick search, but it's still definitely possible that I missed something. MpParie (Talk) (Contribs) 18:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Sigh... The block on editing has only just been removed, and people are already adding Gordon's death again. Would it be worth setting the lock to what it was before, and keeping it that way? -- Hawksbydesign ( talk) 17:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
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Add "Gordon Freeman's death" to references section. This is a reference to the YouTube series 'Half-Life VR: But the AI is self aware', where a character claims to edit the death of Gordon Freeman into this Wikipedia article. I suggest putting it at the end of the references section, that way it doesn't impede upon the legitimate information contained in the article. 4Bakers ( talk) 03:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
I can’t edit it in myself since my account isn’t verified and therefore not allowed to edit because it’s semi-protected, but here is my idea of a section about the HLVR incident.
On March 23rd, 2020, Twitch Streamer and Youtuber WayneRadioTV released Act 2 Part 2 to the series known as Half-Life VR but the AI is Self Aware, a improv comedy parody of the popular 1998 game Half Life. 31 and a half minutes into the video, series antagonist Benry makes a joke about editing the death of series protagonist Gordon Freeman into the Wikipedia article of All Dogs Go To Heaven 2. After the episode released, wide spread vandalism of the actual real life article occurred, where many fans edited in the line "Gordon Freeman Dies" at the end of the plot section. This resulted in the article being semi-protected to prevent further vandalism. Mr.Pikachu The Madman ( talk) 18:28, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I made one VRAI reference and tried to edit it after to remove it, not three minutes later, it was deleted
Because of this, apparently there are MORE people editing this page that I'm not even affiliated with. I apologize for you poor souls having to deal with idiots like me AidanWaydan ( talk) 08:44, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
I understand that this is absolutely not a discussion forum, but I still wanted to say that because I just now realized how absolutely ridiculous this got within minutes of being unlocked AidanWaydan ( talk) 08:50, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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In half-life but the AI is self-aware, there is a reference where Benry mentions editing that "Gordon Freeman dies", into the All Dogs go to Heaven 2 Wikipedia article. This led to many people attempting to input this into the article causing the article to be protected from people trying to add this into the article. Wikicrafter76 ( talk) 15:48, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
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KPDJ 2 ( talk) 23:52, 28 September 2022 (UTC)I am almost certain that there is an error in the grammar
Now, I'm against the people saying to just add the Gordon Freeman thing; but I do feel that considering how this article has pretty much become tied to that half life series, there should probably be a footnote mentioning the series and the fact that all dogs go to heaven 2 was mentioned within it and caused all this. FizzleFae ( talk) 11:22, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
As a fan of the HLVRAI series, I do believe the best compromise would be this to stop fans like me from constantly coming in to mess up the page. As I will admit I did come to do that before I saw the restrictions. Soda, it helps you see faster ( talk) 05:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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The "See Also" tab has a dead link to HLVRAI. It says there is no Wikipedia page for it, when there is. /info/en/?search=Half-Life_VR_but_the_AI_Is_Self-Aware 174.76.216.9 ( talk) 11:27, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
should I add a fotenote about why HLVRAI is specifically mentioned on this article? would that be warrented? CookingWithNitroglycerin ( talk) 15:23, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Seeing as we seem deadset on creating the lamest edit war ever, Thought I'd move our discussion down here. I'm currently working on other things, but if you could supply your talking points then please do. Obligatory paging of Mike Allen. A little late, but welcome back to wikipedia! Hope your break was good. MountainKemono ( talk) 14:29, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
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I added the infobox to the article to give it more of a presentable look (also uploaded DVD cover). I also removed the very large summary, that appeared to be taken from somewhere else. I replaced it with one I wrote based on my knowladge of the movie, and several other sites with a synopsis of the movie. Feel free to change it around, but the original was just way too long, and I know who would want to read that gordonFreeman from halflife 1&2 dies!!!1
I also added some formatting to the paragraphs, and added some bullet points to some of the lower sections.
As for the released date, I found two conflicting reports of the release date, but I just left the one that was in the article previously, if anyone can find the final information, please post it in here what it is, and update it accordingly. Lightdarkness 00:02, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Christmas Carol
All Dogs Go to Heaven Christmas Carol in britan is called an all dogs Christmas Carol should this be added? No
According to IMDB, Charlie's singing voice is done by Jesse Corti, can anyone tell me if this is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.2.129 ( talk) 19:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that is true. ;) CarrieOkie86 ( talk) 13:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Apparently Wiki folk like to stick with info given out at the time of a movie/show's release by its company, even if that info is wrong. Fine by me! In this instance, Sasha is obviously not an Irish Setter, but whatever.
Ah. Thank you to whomever edited her breed with a little explanation--yes, regardless of what MGM may have said, Sasha looks like a Saluki and not like an Irish Setter. (Although it is more a matter of overall impression than of one or two individual things such as ear shapes or coat lengths, which can always vary, the correction & the reasons given ARE correct--everything about her design says Saluki.) CarrieOkie86 ( talk) 02:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I suppose it’s appropriate to leave the following brief explanation in the summary (even though it doesn’t affect the plot):
(There has been debate over Sasha's breed in the movie because of her Saluki-like physical appearance, but she is officially labeled as an Irish Setter by the company. An example of this intent being her purposefully designed reddish-brown coat and smaller stature.)
That’s what it says at the moment. Still, I feel the need to elaborate on that here. First, whatever the official company sources’ reasons may have been for saying Irish Setter, Sasha LaFleur is very plainly a Saluki. (I only accept correct information, regardless of the source.) They may have had that intention when choosing a red-brown coat, but that doesn’t make her a Setter; Salukis come in her color (indeed, in a vast array of dog colors) and look far more like her. As for the “smaller stature” mention, I don’t see the point there at all. It happens that Sasha is a perfect size to be a Saluki (a breed that varies greatly in so many ways.) An average female of both breeds would probably be very similar in size/height--perhaps around 25”, possibly a few more or less. Many female Salukis are quite small. So if the author of the above comments sees her as having a “smaller stature” in comparison to something unspecified, well, it has nothing to do with the filmmaker’s intentions regarding her breed. Sorry for being a bit long-winded, but I wanted to clarify the “debate.” BellatrixKidriver ( talk) 15:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree she looks like a Saluki, and while I have yet to find viable information supporting that the company actually said what breed she is, all of her appearances could easily point to an Irish Setter as well, it's called cartooning, it's not always going to look exactly like anything, Charlie doesn't look EXACTLY like a German Shepherd, Annabel doesn't look exactly like a whippet (note the GIGANTIC floof of hair). So, she's not CLEARLY anything with all the room there is for variation. Why not a mix? She's a "street dog", she could plainly be a variant of both. You and and the author to the quote above could both be correct in your arguments. I work as an illustrator, and have always been a die hard fan of animated movies especially All Dogs Go to Heaven, even if the 2nd one unfortunately contained no work of Don Bluth, and can appreciate the fact that influence can come from a variety of sources. While she easily looks like a Saluki, she could easily be an Irish Setter too, I see an influence of both in there judging by their appearance. Her design is not all that complicated either, pinching and pulling could have occured. Take a look at this: http://www.animalrentals.com/images/Poochies/IrishSetter.jpg. That could just as easily draw influence, just as a Saluki. I did some research more into any other encyclopedia entries other than wikipedia that contained information on this movie, and all of them indicated Sasha as an Irish Setter. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/All-Dogs-Go-to-Heaven-2. I'm willing to see either view though, the breeds both carry similarities and differences that could have formed Sasha, and while I would like to tend to stick with the companies original breed intentions as being the true breed of Sasha (whatever breed that may be, Saluki or Irish Setter) I think it is very naive of you to automatically assume that Sasha is "very plainly a Saluki" or "Sasha looks like a Saluki, and not like an Irish Setter" Amber2916 ( talk) 06:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Just recently watching the movie, I noticed a mistake in the scene Carface and Charlie first met on Earth. After Carface shows his collar, Charlie questions where he got it. In that scene, Charlie is wearing the magic red collar even though he's not even met Red yet. I don't know if it should be added or what but I'm just putting up what I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.208.211 ( talk) 01:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
So apparently someone was still here to do the joke, I deleted their post, anymore people who want to put the joke in here, it's confirmed, the cast wants the joke to stop. It's over.-- 3nic5535 ( talk) 21:26, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Just wanted to know. — comment added by ATPStorages ( talk) 10:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Why is everyone obsessed with Benrey editing Gordon Freeman dying in this article that they got the article protected for editing? It was funny, but it got ruined when even WayneRadioTV himself had to ask everyone to stop.
Iceflame248 ( talk) 03:25, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Maybe we could all meet in the middle and end this madness by just saying that All Dogs go to Heaven 2 was mentioned in HLVRAI? 9/23/2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1709:20E2:55D0:D828:7B03:4FC6 ( talk) 15:49, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Is there independent coverage of HLVRAI's mention of All Dogs Go To Heaven 2 to warrant the inclusion of an "in popular culture" section? I can't seem to find anything that establishes it as particularly significant after a quick search, but it's still definitely possible that I missed something. MpParie (Talk) (Contribs) 18:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Sigh... The block on editing has only just been removed, and people are already adding Gordon's death again. Would it be worth setting the lock to what it was before, and keeping it that way? -- Hawksbydesign ( talk) 17:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
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Add "Gordon Freeman's death" to references section. This is a reference to the YouTube series 'Half-Life VR: But the AI is self aware', where a character claims to edit the death of Gordon Freeman into this Wikipedia article. I suggest putting it at the end of the references section, that way it doesn't impede upon the legitimate information contained in the article. 4Bakers ( talk) 03:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
I can’t edit it in myself since my account isn’t verified and therefore not allowed to edit because it’s semi-protected, but here is my idea of a section about the HLVR incident.
On March 23rd, 2020, Twitch Streamer and Youtuber WayneRadioTV released Act 2 Part 2 to the series known as Half-Life VR but the AI is Self Aware, a improv comedy parody of the popular 1998 game Half Life. 31 and a half minutes into the video, series antagonist Benry makes a joke about editing the death of series protagonist Gordon Freeman into the Wikipedia article of All Dogs Go To Heaven 2. After the episode released, wide spread vandalism of the actual real life article occurred, where many fans edited in the line "Gordon Freeman Dies" at the end of the plot section. This resulted in the article being semi-protected to prevent further vandalism. Mr.Pikachu The Madman ( talk) 18:28, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I made one VRAI reference and tried to edit it after to remove it, not three minutes later, it was deleted
Because of this, apparently there are MORE people editing this page that I'm not even affiliated with. I apologize for you poor souls having to deal with idiots like me AidanWaydan ( talk) 08:44, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
I understand that this is absolutely not a discussion forum, but I still wanted to say that because I just now realized how absolutely ridiculous this got within minutes of being unlocked AidanWaydan ( talk) 08:50, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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In half-life but the AI is self-aware, there is a reference where Benry mentions editing that "Gordon Freeman dies", into the All Dogs go to Heaven 2 Wikipedia article. This led to many people attempting to input this into the article causing the article to be protected from people trying to add this into the article. Wikicrafter76 ( talk) 15:48, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
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KPDJ 2 ( talk) 23:52, 28 September 2022 (UTC)I am almost certain that there is an error in the grammar
Now, I'm against the people saying to just add the Gordon Freeman thing; but I do feel that considering how this article has pretty much become tied to that half life series, there should probably be a footnote mentioning the series and the fact that all dogs go to heaven 2 was mentioned within it and caused all this. FizzleFae ( talk) 11:22, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
As a fan of the HLVRAI series, I do believe the best compromise would be this to stop fans like me from constantly coming in to mess up the page. As I will admit I did come to do that before I saw the restrictions. Soda, it helps you see faster ( talk) 05:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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The "See Also" tab has a dead link to HLVRAI. It says there is no Wikipedia page for it, when there is. /info/en/?search=Half-Life_VR_but_the_AI_Is_Self-Aware 174.76.216.9 ( talk) 11:27, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
should I add a fotenote about why HLVRAI is specifically mentioned on this article? would that be warrented? CookingWithNitroglycerin ( talk) 15:23, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Seeing as we seem deadset on creating the lamest edit war ever, Thought I'd move our discussion down here. I'm currently working on other things, but if you could supply your talking points then please do. Obligatory paging of Mike Allen. A little late, but welcome back to wikipedia! Hope your break was good. MountainKemono ( talk) 14:29, 9 November 2023 (UTC)