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Update :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.162.15.141 ( talk) 18:33, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Ovechkin's weight keeps getting changed. I think the source of the problem is that the IIHF has the wrong weight, since I doubt very much that the IIHF is weighing the players themselves. The weight they use is likely out-of-date regardless of when they publish it. His 218 weight is before he bulked up. Any other opinions? BashBrannigan ( talk) 01:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
The Caps 2010 playoff media guide lists Ovechkin's weight as 233. here on page 45-- Mo Rock...Monstrous ( talk) 00:06, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
As a general note: the edit warring over his bloody weight needs to stop. I will be handing out blocks if it continues. Reso lute 21:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
For those warring, I have read and heard numerous times that hockey players lose between 5-10 pounds during a game. So its quite possible that he was 7KG different from his start of season weight and his IIHF weight. That being said, standard is that we go by the weight from the league website of the league a player is in as being considered the most "accurate" to avoid this squabbles. - DJSasso ( talk) 11:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
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[1] thank you.
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Hello, and thanks for your interest. If you look closely, those statistics are already there, so I'm not sure what you are requesting Forseti11 ( talk) 16:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Nice second photo. His ex-girlfriend must have posted that one... — Preceding unsigned comment added by CEKC ( talk • contribs) 07:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to verify if www.ovie8.com is really Ovechkin's own website. He seems to have a twitter account which lists this website. But what makes me suspicious is that the ovie8.com doesn't have any personal commentary by Ovechkin the way most personal website would. If it's not his own website it should not be in the infobox. BashBrannigan ( talk)
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Citation needed can be replaced with this information: http://capitals.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=462124
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Ovechkin is now playing Right Wing. Hefd ( talk) 23:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)HefD Hefd ( talk) 23:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Some of the information on this page was vandalized (weight and height both altered to intended joke values as was his draft pick). Changing information to published values. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drailing55 ( talk • contribs) 01:48, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Opinion and evidence is divided on whether Alex is a true common name in reliable sources. Several suggest retaining the existing name, while others suggest a move. I don't see an overwhelming consensus one way or the other to be honest, after two listing periods. ( non-admin closure) — Amakuru ( talk) 15:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Alexander Ovechkin →
Alex Ovechkin – As per the discussion began below. Alex is the player's more commonly used name, see the player profiles linked below from the English language sources.
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Is there a long standing consensus on why this article uses "Alexander" as the title instead of "Alex"? Seems pretty clear that he's used "Alex" for years now, that's the name on all of his biographies and stat pages and every news article about him says his more
common name, Alex.
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Well, for what it's worth, the articles for Slava Fetisov and Slava Kozlov both use their full name, even though you rarely heard either of them called Vyacheslav once they became household names via ESPN's Gary Thorne and Bill Clement (and others) while playing on the Red Army Line. Why not leave it as is and just put 'Alex' (with the quotation marks) in the boldfaced portion of his name in the lead? Ryecatcher773 ( talk) 07:24, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
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The last bullet under the "NHL" subsection of the "Awards and Achievements" section uses incorrect grammar. The phrase currently reads: "Scored his 4th career Game 7 goal on 23 May 2018, handing Tampa Bay Lightning there first Game 7 loss at home in its 25-year history..." This phrase should be corrected to: "Scored his 4th career Game 7 goal on 23 May 2018, handing the Tampa Bay Lightning their first Game 7 loss at home in the franchise's 25-year history..." Jonsoff ( talk) 19:48, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Please change "Stanley Cup Finals" to "Stanley Cup Final" (no "s"). Thank you. Curatedlanguage ( talk) 00:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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Error in "Player Profile" section, second to last sentence starts with "After after", change to "After".
Error in section "Stanley Cup Finals", second to last sentence says 17-year career, should be 13 as only his NHL time counts in this case. Should not include his time in the KHL Canellac ( talk) 14:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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Second to last paragraph in "Off the ice" section should the following text be appended: "On June 7, 2018, in an interview after winning his first Stanley Cup, it was made public that Ovechkin and his wife are expecting their first child." [1] Canellac ( talk) 14:11, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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"He could have easily got in the red and tried to score himself and it wasn’t even a thought,” Reirden said. “He passed right to Osh and Osh couldn’t go back to him and that’s the way it worked out. It doesn’t bother him one bit and I think that’s where you see a different player than maybe you saw three or four years ago that is not focused on individual stuff. He’s doing the right thing and he feels if you do the right thing for long enough, you’re going to get rewarded. We were benefactors of that last season with being able to win out at the end. He’s really got a lot of buy-in right now for doing the right thing. I think his leadership is really in the last probably year, year and a half has really gone to a new level." [2]
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Barry Trotz Moscow meeting with Ovechkin removed here:
Artaxerxes 15:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)The game’s changing, and a lot of people think your game is not going to translate and you can’t do anything anymore because you’re getting older. The game’s getting quicker; it’s a young man’s league, and you’re getting older. Just as a coach and just as a friend, knowing this game, how you’re going to have continued success is you’re going to have to become more of an athlete.
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He certainly merits an early life/history section -- as other players of his stature have in their pages (SEE: Sidney Crosby, Wayne Gretsky, etc.)--Artaxerxes 16:05, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
"Alex Ovechkin is putting Wayne Gretzky’s untouchable goal-scoring record within reach" [1]Artaxerxes 22:07, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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NHL active hat trick leader with 22; Malkin with 12; Crosby with 11 (as of 12.17.18). [1] Back-to-back hat tricks:
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The article doesn't seem to consistently use one national variety of English as advised by MOS:ARTCON. I think it should use American English since his ties there are the strongest of any English-speaking nation.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 21:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I have no idea who keeps undoing my edit claiming he is one of the greatest ice hockey players of all time but in the most respectful way you are on crack if you think otherwise. He is a 3x MVP (more than crosby just saying) 3x ted lindsay award winner, a 12 time all star, a 9x maurice rocket award winner, a champion and mvp of the finals and is on pace to not only become the all time scorer but close to breaking numerous other scoring records as well. Go ahead he is not one of the greatest hockey players of all time STOP undoing the edit. MrHindsight ( talk) 02:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
All of these statistics are already mentioned in that section of the article. I don't know myself whether it is truly necessary to mention that he is widely regarded as one of the all-time greatest players in general, but keep in mind, Wikipedia prefers to let things speak for themselves. All of those things you mention are truly impressive, but readers can draw their own conclusions from all of that information. It's not Wikipedia's place to "understate" or "overstate", it can only comment on what has happened and can be objectively proven. Please keep in mind that while Wikipedia does strive to be respectful towards the persons it describes, Wikipedia does not owe anyone anything, so it does not owe Ovechkin any sort of description as one of the all-time greatest in general. If consensus sees fit to include this bit, great, but if not, please do not interpret it as being disrespectful of him or his legacy. I myself have no real opinion on the matter, but I can see this is a touchy subject for some folks. Perhaps we can explore an alternative like our friend Killashaw mentioned, or even something else? Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 21:27, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
It seems like the "player profile" section is being swallowed up by a string of block quotes from other players and coaches. Is this really necessary or appropriate? It seems like it significantly interrupts the flow of the article's text. 1995hoo ( talk) 21:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
I've sought help with this matter at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey. 1995hoo ( talk) 12:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
"some consider" seems a bit too cautious and outdated, no? He's at 822 goals, 72 back. The narrative has rapidly shifted from if to when. Inspector Semenych ( talk) 17:56, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
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Update :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.162.15.141 ( talk) 18:33, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Ovechkin's weight keeps getting changed. I think the source of the problem is that the IIHF has the wrong weight, since I doubt very much that the IIHF is weighing the players themselves. The weight they use is likely out-of-date regardless of when they publish it. His 218 weight is before he bulked up. Any other opinions? BashBrannigan ( talk) 01:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
The Caps 2010 playoff media guide lists Ovechkin's weight as 233. here on page 45-- Mo Rock...Monstrous ( talk) 00:06, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
As a general note: the edit warring over his bloody weight needs to stop. I will be handing out blocks if it continues. Reso lute 21:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
For those warring, I have read and heard numerous times that hockey players lose between 5-10 pounds during a game. So its quite possible that he was 7KG different from his start of season weight and his IIHF weight. That being said, standard is that we go by the weight from the league website of the league a player is in as being considered the most "accurate" to avoid this squabbles. - DJSasso ( talk) 11:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
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I am required for a class to make a change or addition to Wikipedia. I am a huge Washington Capitals fan, and a big fan of Ovechkin. I would just like to include his stats during the 2010 Winter Olympics in the International Play category. I will get my Information from this source:
[1] thank you.
TChalk945 (
talk)
19:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello, and thanks for your interest. If you look closely, those statistics are already there, so I'm not sure what you are requesting Forseti11 ( talk) 16:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Nice second photo. His ex-girlfriend must have posted that one... — Preceding unsigned comment added by CEKC ( talk • contribs) 07:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to verify if www.ovie8.com is really Ovechkin's own website. He seems to have a twitter account which lists this website. But what makes me suspicious is that the ovie8.com doesn't have any personal commentary by Ovechkin the way most personal website would. If it's not his own website it should not be in the infobox. BashBrannigan ( talk)
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Citation needed can be replaced with this information: http://capitals.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=462124
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Jspoke ( talk) 00:52, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Done found what the request was referring to and added provided reference. Cheers. --
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Ovechkin is now playing Right Wing. Hefd ( talk) 23:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)HefD Hefd ( talk) 23:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Some of the information on this page was vandalized (weight and height both altered to intended joke values as was his draft pick). Changing information to published values. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drailing55 ( talk • contribs) 01:48, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Opinion and evidence is divided on whether Alex is a true common name in reliable sources. Several suggest retaining the existing name, while others suggest a move. I don't see an overwhelming consensus one way or the other to be honest, after two listing periods. ( non-admin closure) — Amakuru ( talk) 15:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Alexander Ovechkin →
Alex Ovechkin – As per the discussion began below. Alex is the player's more commonly used name, see the player profiles linked below from the English language sources.
WP:COMMONNAME. --Relisted. —
Amakuru (
talk) 21:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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Is there a long standing consensus on why this article uses "Alexander" as the title instead of "Alex"? Seems pretty clear that he's used "Alex" for years now, that's the name on all of his biographies and stat pages and every news article about him says his more
common name, Alex.
G
loss
21:20, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Well, for what it's worth, the articles for Slava Fetisov and Slava Kozlov both use their full name, even though you rarely heard either of them called Vyacheslav once they became household names via ESPN's Gary Thorne and Bill Clement (and others) while playing on the Red Army Line. Why not leave it as is and just put 'Alex' (with the quotation marks) in the boldfaced portion of his name in the lead? Ryecatcher773 ( talk) 07:24, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
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The last bullet under the "NHL" subsection of the "Awards and Achievements" section uses incorrect grammar. The phrase currently reads: "Scored his 4th career Game 7 goal on 23 May 2018, handing Tampa Bay Lightning there first Game 7 loss at home in its 25-year history..." This phrase should be corrected to: "Scored his 4th career Game 7 goal on 23 May 2018, handing the Tampa Bay Lightning their first Game 7 loss at home in the franchise's 25-year history..." Jonsoff ( talk) 19:48, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Please change "Stanley Cup Finals" to "Stanley Cup Final" (no "s"). Thank you. Curatedlanguage ( talk) 00:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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Error in "Player Profile" section, second to last sentence starts with "After after", change to "After".
Error in section "Stanley Cup Finals", second to last sentence says 17-year career, should be 13 as only his NHL time counts in this case. Should not include his time in the KHL Canellac ( talk) 14:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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Second to last paragraph in "Off the ice" section should the following text be appended: "On June 7, 2018, in an interview after winning his first Stanley Cup, it was made public that Ovechkin and his wife are expecting their first child." [1] Canellac ( talk) 14:11, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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"He could have easily got in the red and tried to score himself and it wasn’t even a thought,” Reirden said. “He passed right to Osh and Osh couldn’t go back to him and that’s the way it worked out. It doesn’t bother him one bit and I think that’s where you see a different player than maybe you saw three or four years ago that is not focused on individual stuff. He’s doing the right thing and he feels if you do the right thing for long enough, you’re going to get rewarded. We were benefactors of that last season with being able to win out at the end. He’s really got a lot of buy-in right now for doing the right thing. I think his leadership is really in the last probably year, year and a half has really gone to a new level." [2]
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Barry Trotz Moscow meeting with Ovechkin removed here:
Artaxerxes 15:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)The game’s changing, and a lot of people think your game is not going to translate and you can’t do anything anymore because you’re getting older. The game’s getting quicker; it’s a young man’s league, and you’re getting older. Just as a coach and just as a friend, knowing this game, how you’re going to have continued success is you’re going to have to become more of an athlete.
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He certainly merits an early life/history section -- as other players of his stature have in their pages (SEE: Sidney Crosby, Wayne Gretsky, etc.)--Artaxerxes 16:05, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
"Alex Ovechkin is putting Wayne Gretzky’s untouchable goal-scoring record within reach" [1]Artaxerxes 22:07, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
References
NHL active hat trick leader with 22; Malkin with 12; Crosby with 11 (as of 12.17.18). [1] Back-to-back hat tricks:
References
The article doesn't seem to consistently use one national variety of English as advised by MOS:ARTCON. I think it should use American English since his ties there are the strongest of any English-speaking nation.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 21:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I have no idea who keeps undoing my edit claiming he is one of the greatest ice hockey players of all time but in the most respectful way you are on crack if you think otherwise. He is a 3x MVP (more than crosby just saying) 3x ted lindsay award winner, a 12 time all star, a 9x maurice rocket award winner, a champion and mvp of the finals and is on pace to not only become the all time scorer but close to breaking numerous other scoring records as well. Go ahead he is not one of the greatest hockey players of all time STOP undoing the edit. MrHindsight ( talk) 02:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
All of these statistics are already mentioned in that section of the article. I don't know myself whether it is truly necessary to mention that he is widely regarded as one of the all-time greatest players in general, but keep in mind, Wikipedia prefers to let things speak for themselves. All of those things you mention are truly impressive, but readers can draw their own conclusions from all of that information. It's not Wikipedia's place to "understate" or "overstate", it can only comment on what has happened and can be objectively proven. Please keep in mind that while Wikipedia does strive to be respectful towards the persons it describes, Wikipedia does not owe anyone anything, so it does not owe Ovechkin any sort of description as one of the all-time greatest in general. If consensus sees fit to include this bit, great, but if not, please do not interpret it as being disrespectful of him or his legacy. I myself have no real opinion on the matter, but I can see this is a touchy subject for some folks. Perhaps we can explore an alternative like our friend Killashaw mentioned, or even something else? Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 21:27, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
It seems like the "player profile" section is being swallowed up by a string of block quotes from other players and coaches. Is this really necessary or appropriate? It seems like it significantly interrupts the flow of the article's text. 1995hoo ( talk) 21:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
I've sought help with this matter at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey. 1995hoo ( talk) 12:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
"some consider" seems a bit too cautious and outdated, no? He's at 822 goals, 72 back. The narrative has rapidly shifted from if to when. Inspector Semenych ( talk) 17:56, 7 August 2023 (UTC)