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I am removing the Speedy Delete tag. This article is on Al Gordon the comic book artist. Tha article previously deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Gordon was on Al Gordon the musician. This article has not been previously deleted, and the speedy deletion nomination therefore fails. Best, -- Shirahadasha 02:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I note that you seem to take a great interest in the article Al Gordon (comics), and have added or tried to add much material that could be construed as promotional or self-promotional. Adding links to a subject's social media pages is not generally accepted, and violates WP:ELNO10. (Please see.) As well, your reverting to material that another editor has removed while citing the pertinent Wikipedia policy can be considered edit-warring, which can have potentially serious consequences. Please do not continue adding social media or other promotional links to articles. Thank you. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 02:02, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Are you the from Tenebrae from comicbookresources?
I find it amusing that you would assume someone in their right mind would want to impersonate me. Very odd indeed.
It seems to me you are enforcing a Rule that doesn't exist. Can you tell me where on the ENLO page that it says I'm only allowed "one (1) Official External Link?"
All of my links are intended to give Information or Compliment the Article, for example, by showing a Gallery. None of these sites are selling anything.
I've noticed a lot of other pages have quite a few Official External Links… "Justine" Beaver has a FaceBook, Twitter, YouTube, etc.… Adam Hughes has his Official Website and Deviant Art… Major Lazer has an Official page, MySpace, Twitter and YouTube… Jim Lee has DeviantArt, MySpace, Twitter, YouTube…
Can you show me, officially, where it says that Living People are always only represented by a Single External Link?
Albabe ( talk) 02:43, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
I pasted the interaction about this page from my Talk page to make things as clear as possible. -- Albabe ( talk)
I don't see why his official flickr should be removed -- Guerillero | My Talk 02:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure some of the articles that break guidelines are because of stretched volunteers... No doubt about it. But that wasn't my specific point. Tenebrae said specifically that there can only be one Official External Link. I looked through the ELNO Guidelines and saw nothing about there only being allowed One External Link. And as I've said, I looked around and there are virtually countless Articles with more than one link. I posted a few (above).
Oops Albabe ( talk) 04:25, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Here's the citation you requested:
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/17-998/Dark-Horse-Presents-10-Thomas-Yeates-cover
"I'll be back..."
Albabe (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
00:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC).
Okay, here's what I feel is a fair compromise.
The entries on Al at the GCDB, etc, those are obviously fine.
Interviews with Al - we can't include every interview ever. If the interview can be used as a source, that's good.
Official site - this is tricky. Really, I don't think we should have both Al's Facebook page and his Comicon page. Ideally there'd be an official Al Gordon site that stood on its own, and referred to Facebook and Comicon, but right now there isn't. Which of those pages is more recently updated? Use that one.
As for his Flickr page -- if Al wasn't an award-winning visual artist, I'd feel differently. But he is, so a link to his Flickr page is wholly appropriate. DS ( talk) 02:44, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Albabe ( talk) 20:16, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
I noticed a citation on this article. I found a solicitation that provided the information needed for the citation.
I researched it here at Wiki and thought I was doing this right... but after I cited the info needed to substantiate the claim the citation was questioning, and adding that info to the Talk Page... I then removed the citation weeks later. Then someone put the citation back saying "do not remove citation requests. That is not how Wikipedia works."
I thought I did it correctly. Can anyone help me do it right?
Albabe ( talk) 01:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Here's the Release citation for the Tarzan Citation Request:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=user_review&id=4428
Albabe ( talk) 18:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Citation added.albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 22:40, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
I don't believe that Grand_Comics_Database should be used as an source for this, or any other, BLP because I do not think it meets the requirements of WP:RS.
I have opened a discussion about this at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Grand_Comics_Database. Shaz0t ( talk) 01:01, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
The article today said "Alan Gordon (born June 22, 1953)" with a ref to this;
Miller, John Jackson (June 10, 2005).
"Comics Industry Birthdays".
Comics Buyer's Guide. Archived from
the original on October 29, 2010. Retrieved December 12, 2010. {{
cite web}}
: Text "John Jackson Miller" ignored (
help)
I dispute that that is an appropriate reference, so I will remove the date of birth.
Please feel free to discuss below. Thanks. Shaz0t ( talk) 01:13, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm curious why Shaz0t didn't think the Comics Buyer's Guide is unreliable for Gordon's date of birth? albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 21:06, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
We don't normally give full bibliographies per WP:NOTCV. Instead we select the most important works. But I'm unfamiliar with the area to do a selection myself. Tijfo098 ( talk) 06:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
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I am removing the Speedy Delete tag. This article is on Al Gordon the comic book artist. Tha article previously deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Gordon was on Al Gordon the musician. This article has not been previously deleted, and the speedy deletion nomination therefore fails. Best, -- Shirahadasha 02:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I note that you seem to take a great interest in the article Al Gordon (comics), and have added or tried to add much material that could be construed as promotional or self-promotional. Adding links to a subject's social media pages is not generally accepted, and violates WP:ELNO10. (Please see.) As well, your reverting to material that another editor has removed while citing the pertinent Wikipedia policy can be considered edit-warring, which can have potentially serious consequences. Please do not continue adding social media or other promotional links to articles. Thank you. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 02:02, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Are you the from Tenebrae from comicbookresources?
I find it amusing that you would assume someone in their right mind would want to impersonate me. Very odd indeed.
It seems to me you are enforcing a Rule that doesn't exist. Can you tell me where on the ENLO page that it says I'm only allowed "one (1) Official External Link?"
All of my links are intended to give Information or Compliment the Article, for example, by showing a Gallery. None of these sites are selling anything.
I've noticed a lot of other pages have quite a few Official External Links… "Justine" Beaver has a FaceBook, Twitter, YouTube, etc.… Adam Hughes has his Official Website and Deviant Art… Major Lazer has an Official page, MySpace, Twitter and YouTube… Jim Lee has DeviantArt, MySpace, Twitter, YouTube…
Can you show me, officially, where it says that Living People are always only represented by a Single External Link?
Albabe ( talk) 02:43, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
I pasted the interaction about this page from my Talk page to make things as clear as possible. -- Albabe ( talk)
I don't see why his official flickr should be removed -- Guerillero | My Talk 02:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure some of the articles that break guidelines are because of stretched volunteers... No doubt about it. But that wasn't my specific point. Tenebrae said specifically that there can only be one Official External Link. I looked through the ELNO Guidelines and saw nothing about there only being allowed One External Link. And as I've said, I looked around and there are virtually countless Articles with more than one link. I posted a few (above).
Oops Albabe ( talk) 04:25, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Here's the citation you requested:
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/17-998/Dark-Horse-Presents-10-Thomas-Yeates-cover
"I'll be back..."
Albabe (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
00:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC).
Okay, here's what I feel is a fair compromise.
The entries on Al at the GCDB, etc, those are obviously fine.
Interviews with Al - we can't include every interview ever. If the interview can be used as a source, that's good.
Official site - this is tricky. Really, I don't think we should have both Al's Facebook page and his Comicon page. Ideally there'd be an official Al Gordon site that stood on its own, and referred to Facebook and Comicon, but right now there isn't. Which of those pages is more recently updated? Use that one.
As for his Flickr page -- if Al wasn't an award-winning visual artist, I'd feel differently. But he is, so a link to his Flickr page is wholly appropriate. DS ( talk) 02:44, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Albabe ( talk) 20:16, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
I noticed a citation on this article. I found a solicitation that provided the information needed for the citation.
I researched it here at Wiki and thought I was doing this right... but after I cited the info needed to substantiate the claim the citation was questioning, and adding that info to the Talk Page... I then removed the citation weeks later. Then someone put the citation back saying "do not remove citation requests. That is not how Wikipedia works."
I thought I did it correctly. Can anyone help me do it right?
Albabe ( talk) 01:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Here's the Release citation for the Tarzan Citation Request:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=user_review&id=4428
Albabe ( talk) 18:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Citation added.albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 22:40, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
I don't believe that Grand_Comics_Database should be used as an source for this, or any other, BLP because I do not think it meets the requirements of WP:RS.
I have opened a discussion about this at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Grand_Comics_Database. Shaz0t ( talk) 01:01, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
The article today said "Alan Gordon (born June 22, 1953)" with a ref to this;
Miller, John Jackson (June 10, 2005).
"Comics Industry Birthdays".
Comics Buyer's Guide. Archived from
the original on October 29, 2010. Retrieved December 12, 2010. {{
cite web}}
: Text "John Jackson Miller" ignored (
help)
I dispute that that is an appropriate reference, so I will remove the date of birth.
Please feel free to discuss below. Thanks. Shaz0t ( talk) 01:13, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm curious why Shaz0t didn't think the Comics Buyer's Guide is unreliable for Gordon's date of birth? albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 21:06, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
We don't normally give full bibliographies per WP:NOTCV. Instead we select the most important works. But I'm unfamiliar with the area to do a selection myself. Tijfo098 ( talk) 06:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
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