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Is there a source to confirm their identification as genderfluid? See this diff showing unsourced changes to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Yeah it's unfortunate the interview wasn't more explicit as to whether Rivera uses they or whether that also applies to the persona Aja. I added it as a ref as it was the only one I knew of off hand where pronouns were explicitly mentioned. I think it's probably safe to use she for the drag character and they for Rivera. The official website for Aja seems to use she, e.g.
[1] this queen will leave you mesmerized with her precision, wit and eclecticism.
Hopefully a more explicit source will come forth eventually.
Umimmak (
talk) 19:41, 24 February 2018 (UTC) Update: I also just re-watched the first episode of Season 9 and Aja says "Aja is banji, her drag style is very the streets of Tokyo meets the streets of Brooklyn. She's cute. She's dangerous" So I think it's safe to use "she" to refer to Rivera's drag persona but "they" to Rivera.
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Since Aja's announcement about wanting to be known as a queer artist rather than a drag queen last month, secondary sources have begun to use singular they to refer to Aja also when in drag [2] [3] [4]. Should we follow suit? Armadillopteryx talk 09:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Rivera lived as a trans woman for a year at age 18, later coming to identify as genderqueer after learning about non-binary identities.[1] Do you think it is better stated another way? Armadillopteryx talk 22:27, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
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Has anyone got a reliable secondary source for Aja's boyfriend's name? The Lyft article only mentions his Twitter handle. Earlier I added Aja's Facebook as a reference strictly to cite the name. Now that reference has been removed, presumably because the other info in the sentence was already sourced by secondary coverage. If we don't get Ty's name from another place, though, I suppose it will have to go. Armadillopteryx talk 20:18, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be any secondary coverage for the video yet. What about using the YouTube video itself as a citation (just to prove its existence) until someone reports on it? I figure since it's only in the table anyway ... Armadillopteryx talk 01:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Street, Mikelle (July 3, 2018). "Why 'Drag Race' Alum Aja Is No Longer Using the Term 'Drag Queen'". them.
Umimmak ( talk) 00:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:20, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I've discovered the reason for the spate of IP and single-use account edits we've gotten on this article in the past 24 hours. Aja has been Tweeting about it:
Thoughts on how to proceed? Previously, we have used Aja's Tweets to source a limited amount of personal info here, though it was one of those Tweets that claimed they were Libyan [12], which they now say is incorrect in the above Tweets.
Pinging: Another Believer, Umimmak. Armadillopteryx talk 01:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Given recent coverage of the fact that Aja no longer identifies as a drag queen, some of which is presently used as sourcing in this article, should we change the title of this page to something else? If so, what? Armadillopteryx talk 00:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 13:57, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Aja (drag queen) → Aja (entertainer) – The subject to the article has been distancing themselves from the "drag queen" label and focusing on a music career and burlesque performances. Statements in twitter and interviews about the desire to no longer being a drag queen are provided below. Not A Superhero ( talk) 17:43, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
All right, I decided to be bold and propose the move. Aja has tweeted about this:
And also mentioned it during an interview with Rolling Stone: https://web.archive.org/web/20191029032829/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/aja-rpdr-queer-artist-rap-star-box-office-album-790747/
Currently, Aja (entertainer) is a redirect to Aja (actress), a pornographic actress in the nineties whose article is proposed for deletion. In case that article is kept, I guess a disambiguation page may be necessary. Not A Superhero ( talk) 17:50, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Dekimasu: Do you mind moving Category:Aja (drag queen) albums as well? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:24, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:51, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Aja is participating in season 3 of Legendary:
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Is there a source to confirm their identification as genderfluid? See this diff showing unsourced changes to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Yeah it's unfortunate the interview wasn't more explicit as to whether Rivera uses they or whether that also applies to the persona Aja. I added it as a ref as it was the only one I knew of off hand where pronouns were explicitly mentioned. I think it's probably safe to use she for the drag character and they for Rivera. The official website for Aja seems to use she, e.g.
[1] this queen will leave you mesmerized with her precision, wit and eclecticism.
Hopefully a more explicit source will come forth eventually.
Umimmak (
talk) 19:41, 24 February 2018 (UTC) Update: I also just re-watched the first episode of Season 9 and Aja says "Aja is banji, her drag style is very the streets of Tokyo meets the streets of Brooklyn. She's cute. She's dangerous" So I think it's safe to use "she" to refer to Rivera's drag persona but "they" to Rivera.
Umimmak (
talk)
20:49, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Since Aja's announcement about wanting to be known as a queer artist rather than a drag queen last month, secondary sources have begun to use singular they to refer to Aja also when in drag [2] [3] [4]. Should we follow suit? Armadillopteryx talk 09:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Rivera lived as a trans woman for a year at age 18, later coming to identify as genderqueer after learning about non-binary identities.[1] Do you think it is better stated another way? Armadillopteryx talk 22:27, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
References
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cite news}}
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Has anyone got a reliable secondary source for Aja's boyfriend's name? The Lyft article only mentions his Twitter handle. Earlier I added Aja's Facebook as a reference strictly to cite the name. Now that reference has been removed, presumably because the other info in the sentence was already sourced by secondary coverage. If we don't get Ty's name from another place, though, I suppose it will have to go. Armadillopteryx talk 20:18, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be any secondary coverage for the video yet. What about using the YouTube video itself as a citation (just to prove its existence) until someone reports on it? I figure since it's only in the table anyway ... Armadillopteryx talk 01:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Street, Mikelle (July 3, 2018). "Why 'Drag Race' Alum Aja Is No Longer Using the Term 'Drag Queen'". them.
Umimmak ( talk) 00:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:20, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I've discovered the reason for the spate of IP and single-use account edits we've gotten on this article in the past 24 hours. Aja has been Tweeting about it:
Thoughts on how to proceed? Previously, we have used Aja's Tweets to source a limited amount of personal info here, though it was one of those Tweets that claimed they were Libyan [12], which they now say is incorrect in the above Tweets.
Pinging: Another Believer, Umimmak. Armadillopteryx talk 01:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Given recent coverage of the fact that Aja no longer identifies as a drag queen, some of which is presently used as sourcing in this article, should we change the title of this page to something else? If so, what? Armadillopteryx talk 00:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 13:57, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Aja (drag queen) → Aja (entertainer) – The subject to the article has been distancing themselves from the "drag queen" label and focusing on a music career and burlesque performances. Statements in twitter and interviews about the desire to no longer being a drag queen are provided below. Not A Superhero ( talk) 17:43, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
All right, I decided to be bold and propose the move. Aja has tweeted about this:
And also mentioned it during an interview with Rolling Stone: https://web.archive.org/web/20191029032829/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/aja-rpdr-queer-artist-rap-star-box-office-album-790747/
Currently, Aja (entertainer) is a redirect to Aja (actress), a pornographic actress in the nineties whose article is proposed for deletion. In case that article is kept, I guess a disambiguation page may be necessary. Not A Superhero ( talk) 17:50, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Dekimasu: Do you mind moving Category:Aja (drag queen) albums as well? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:24, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:51, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Aja is participating in season 3 of Legendary: