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Abu Ghosh is an Israeli Arab village. It is not Palestine and the people who live there are not Palestinians. Including it in the Wikipedia Palestine project is misleading. -- Gilabrand 05:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
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Due to the 1RR pointed out to me here, I reintroduces some instanced I think are wildly WP:UNDUE in this edit....where basically they are all saying the same: how friendly Abu Ghosh were with the Yishuv. (Not that you would get that impression, when you read how they were treated in the 1948 war.) That is simply not needed. Huldra ( talk) 21:19, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
I am not convinced that Weitzmann's visit is all that notable, but I could be persuaded either way. The Jaber quote , OTOH, is far from undue. As @
Icewhiz: notes, Abu Gosh's history is quite unique - it is the only Arab village in the area that was untouched by the war's violence. And if that outcome is , as Jaber claims, the result of a premeditated 'long term view', that is certainly worthy of mention. In any case, removal of relevant, sourced material with an edit summary that reads 'seriously" is unacceptable.
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Do you guys really feel that every mention of an Arab and a Jew eating together here should be in this article? Should every act of violence recorded against the villagers of say Abu Dis likewise be included in that article if it can be sourced? nableezy - 05:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
So after user:Shrikes latest revert we have in the article:
From the early 20th century, the leaders of Abu-Ghosh worked together and were on friendly terms with the Zionist leaders.[24] Throughout the Mandate period, the village of Abu Ghosh was on friendly terms with local Jews.[25]
Lol, I wonder if Wikipedia will have any readers left with an IQ of above 80 if we continue to treat them to "gems" like the above. Perhaps you should lobby the WMF to change the slogan to "Wikipedia: the free encyclopaedia for imbeciles"? Huldra ( talk) 20:25, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Each of the people reverting to include this material have repeatedly cited WP:ONUS for keeping out disputed material. You know full well this material does not have consensus for inclusion. Until there is consensus for inclusion the onus remains on the people seeking to include it. @ Shrike:, please explain why you revert per ONUS multiple times but ignore that here. nableezy - 21:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
From the early 20th century, the leaders of Abu-Ghosh worked together and were on friendly terms with the Zionist leaders, [1] and local Jews. [2] When Chaim Weizmann, later the first president of the State of Israel, visited Palestine in the spring of 1920, he was hosted by the residents of Abu Ghosh. [3] According to Issa Jaber, director of the local department of education, the personal relationship with Zionist leaders during the pre-state period set the basis for later cooperation. "We had a perspective for the future", he says. [4]
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was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).From the early 20th century, the leaders of Abu-Ghosh worked together and were on friendly terms with the Zionist leaders, and local Jews. [1] [2] [3] [4]
scribd.com
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).The Library of Congress has a usable photo showing "Palestine disturbances 1936. Palestine Arabs at Abou Ghosh taking the oath of allegiance to the Arab cause, viz. to fight Jewish immigration, etc." It would help to balance the one-sided presentation that appears now. Zero talk 04:03, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
I suggest to add an updated image to the page - this is the image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AbuGhoshOct282021.jpg . Whoever is approved to edit the page may feel free to to add it. Thanks! Agmonsnir ( talk) 08:17, 29 October 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agmonsnir ( talk • contribs) 06:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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Due to the 1RR pointed out to me here, I reintroduces some instanced I think are wildly WP:UNDUE in this edit....where basically they are all saying the same: how friendly Abu Ghosh were with the Yishuv. (Not that you would get that impression, when you read how they were treated in the 1948 war.) That is simply not needed. Huldra ( talk) 21:19, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
I am not convinced that Weitzmann's visit is all that notable, but I could be persuaded either way. The Jaber quote , OTOH, is far from undue. As @
Icewhiz: notes, Abu Gosh's history is quite unique - it is the only Arab village in the area that was untouched by the war's violence. And if that outcome is , as Jaber claims, the result of a premeditated 'long term view', that is certainly worthy of mention. In any case, removal of relevant, sourced material with an edit summary that reads 'seriously" is unacceptable.
Attack Ramon (
talk) 21:49, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Do you guys really feel that every mention of an Arab and a Jew eating together here should be in this article? Should every act of violence recorded against the villagers of say Abu Dis likewise be included in that article if it can be sourced? nableezy - 05:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
So after user:Shrikes latest revert we have in the article:
From the early 20th century, the leaders of Abu-Ghosh worked together and were on friendly terms with the Zionist leaders.[24] Throughout the Mandate period, the village of Abu Ghosh was on friendly terms with local Jews.[25]
Lol, I wonder if Wikipedia will have any readers left with an IQ of above 80 if we continue to treat them to "gems" like the above. Perhaps you should lobby the WMF to change the slogan to "Wikipedia: the free encyclopaedia for imbeciles"? Huldra ( talk) 20:25, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Each of the people reverting to include this material have repeatedly cited WP:ONUS for keeping out disputed material. You know full well this material does not have consensus for inclusion. Until there is consensus for inclusion the onus remains on the people seeking to include it. @ Shrike:, please explain why you revert per ONUS multiple times but ignore that here. nableezy - 21:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
From the early 20th century, the leaders of Abu-Ghosh worked together and were on friendly terms with the Zionist leaders, [1] and local Jews. [2] When Chaim Weizmann, later the first president of the State of Israel, visited Palestine in the spring of 1920, he was hosted by the residents of Abu Ghosh. [3] According to Issa Jaber, director of the local department of education, the personal relationship with Zionist leaders during the pre-state period set the basis for later cooperation. "We had a perspective for the future", he says. [4]
References
scribd.com
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).From the early 20th century, the leaders of Abu-Ghosh worked together and were on friendly terms with the Zionist leaders, and local Jews. [1] [2] [3] [4]
scribd.com
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).The Library of Congress has a usable photo showing "Palestine disturbances 1936. Palestine Arabs at Abou Ghosh taking the oath of allegiance to the Arab cause, viz. to fight Jewish immigration, etc." It would help to balance the one-sided presentation that appears now. Zero talk 04:03, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
I suggest to add an updated image to the page - this is the image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AbuGhoshOct282021.jpg . Whoever is approved to edit the page may feel free to to add it. Thanks! Agmonsnir ( talk) 08:17, 29 October 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agmonsnir ( talk • contribs) 06:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)