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Starting a discussion for you. As stated, premiere dates are rarely set at the same time as renewals; it's rarer for it to be announced as such than for it to not be. The sources do not state any uncertainty about the lack of premiere date of the second series, and thus it is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH to comment about it outside of the source. If the sources stated "the date has not been announced", then certainly. -- / Alex/ 21 04:00, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Alex I have reinstituted my edit with a Ref to the main AMC Premier page, which PROMINENTLY displays an advert for the series. Gil gosseyn ( talk) 11:40, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Should we use "season" or "series"? I ask since I see a small edit war about this. Personally I am more accustomed to "season", as in "the series consists of several seasons". Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Naming conventions that seems to be the correct style. On the other hand, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television#Episode_listing and Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(television)#Series_television say that both are possible. Personally, I find it confusing to use "series" in the title for the whole ("TV series") and then again in the article for the part, and would prefer to use "season" for the part. The producing company seems to use "season", "A Discovery of Witches seasons two and three" and per the instruction at MOS:TVEPISODE: "if that is the identifier for the show", we should probably go by that. Your input will be appreciated. Debresser ( talk) 15:35, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Retracted, in favor of a possible future broader discussion on the guideline level. Debresser ( talk) 09:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC) Debresser ( talk) 09:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
A Discovery of Witches (TV series) → A Discovery of Witches (TV serial) – This proposal is a result of the confusion inherent in the British designation of seasons of a TV series, which is also "series". I discussed this at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Television#Season_or_series, and based on my understanding of that discussion, in it was mentioned that the British designation of a series would be "serial", I made a bold move. [4] Since that move was reverted [5] after two weeks for no other reason that the lack of prior discussion, I hereby open such discussion. Debresser ( talk) 23:08, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
for the special case of episodic television known as "miniseries", when disambiguation is required, use: (miniseries) or (serial) according to common usage in reliable sources.I see nothing in the discussion conforming with this; can you confirm this?
move was reverted after two weeks for no other reason that the lack of prior discussion. That is a lie and thus provides to a faulty RM. You have now failed to answer the question regarding the NCTV quote thrice. Do you intend to answer the questions at all? -- / Alex/ 21 23:48, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
(TV serial)disambiguator, and found most don't. Series like Sherlock with 4 seasons (or series) and Peaky Blinders with 5 seasons (or series) still use the
(TV series)disambiguator, so there seems to be no reason to do it differently here. — El Millo ( talk) 23:24, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
I have answered question number 1 above. Question number 2 is about miniseries, which this is not. Regarding question number 3, this question basically repeat the suggestion that perhaps this should be solved not on an article basis, but on the guideline level. Which is probably true, and I shall retract my proposal here.
Quesiton 1 was not answered, and it is likely further RMs/RFCs will be based on similar lies. Question 2 regards the usage of (miniseries) or (serial) according to common usage in reliable sources
, and again, no reliable sources were ever provided despite this quote. In fact, it's the only usage of serial in NCTV, showing its lack of support. If a discussion is opened to restructure NCTV, then I will be quoting this poorly-formed RFC and consensus-lacking MOS:TV discussion to provide context of poor editorial decisions and skills. Happy New Year! -- /
Alex/
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03:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Sky announced that all episode of season 2 will be out on Jan 8th (in a binge model) so the season 2 episodes section needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babar Suhail ( talk • contribs)
What the heck is your issue?????? The guideline WP:LEAD says "The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents." The premise of the show is one of its most important contents, so it belongs in the lead. "It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies." The topic includes what the show is about. The important points include who the main characters are and what they do. Why the hell shouldn't a lead section summarize each of its sections, which includes a brief overview of the premise, of the important cast AND characters, its release, and – as I also added and you inappropriately reverted – its reception??? Reywas92 Talk 14:18, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Should the lead section include a summary of major aspects of the article, specifically including premise but also reception, such as
this or
this version?
Reywas92
Talk
14:13, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm missing info about composer and music production 185.80.180.20 ( talk) 15:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Starting a discussion for you. As stated, premiere dates are rarely set at the same time as renewals; it's rarer for it to be announced as such than for it to not be. The sources do not state any uncertainty about the lack of premiere date of the second series, and thus it is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH to comment about it outside of the source. If the sources stated "the date has not been announced", then certainly. -- / Alex/ 21 04:00, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Alex I have reinstituted my edit with a Ref to the main AMC Premier page, which PROMINENTLY displays an advert for the series. Gil gosseyn ( talk) 11:40, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Should we use "season" or "series"? I ask since I see a small edit war about this. Personally I am more accustomed to "season", as in "the series consists of several seasons". Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Naming conventions that seems to be the correct style. On the other hand, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television#Episode_listing and Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(television)#Series_television say that both are possible. Personally, I find it confusing to use "series" in the title for the whole ("TV series") and then again in the article for the part, and would prefer to use "season" for the part. The producing company seems to use "season", "A Discovery of Witches seasons two and three" and per the instruction at MOS:TVEPISODE: "if that is the identifier for the show", we should probably go by that. Your input will be appreciated. Debresser ( talk) 15:35, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Retracted, in favor of a possible future broader discussion on the guideline level. Debresser ( talk) 09:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC) Debresser ( talk) 09:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
A Discovery of Witches (TV series) → A Discovery of Witches (TV serial) – This proposal is a result of the confusion inherent in the British designation of seasons of a TV series, which is also "series". I discussed this at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Television#Season_or_series, and based on my understanding of that discussion, in it was mentioned that the British designation of a series would be "serial", I made a bold move. [4] Since that move was reverted [5] after two weeks for no other reason that the lack of prior discussion, I hereby open such discussion. Debresser ( talk) 23:08, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
for the special case of episodic television known as "miniseries", when disambiguation is required, use: (miniseries) or (serial) according to common usage in reliable sources.I see nothing in the discussion conforming with this; can you confirm this?
move was reverted after two weeks for no other reason that the lack of prior discussion. That is a lie and thus provides to a faulty RM. You have now failed to answer the question regarding the NCTV quote thrice. Do you intend to answer the questions at all? -- / Alex/ 21 23:48, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
(TV serial)disambiguator, and found most don't. Series like Sherlock with 4 seasons (or series) and Peaky Blinders with 5 seasons (or series) still use the
(TV series)disambiguator, so there seems to be no reason to do it differently here. — El Millo ( talk) 23:24, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
I have answered question number 1 above. Question number 2 is about miniseries, which this is not. Regarding question number 3, this question basically repeat the suggestion that perhaps this should be solved not on an article basis, but on the guideline level. Which is probably true, and I shall retract my proposal here.
Quesiton 1 was not answered, and it is likely further RMs/RFCs will be based on similar lies. Question 2 regards the usage of (miniseries) or (serial) according to common usage in reliable sources
, and again, no reliable sources were ever provided despite this quote. In fact, it's the only usage of serial in NCTV, showing its lack of support. If a discussion is opened to restructure NCTV, then I will be quoting this poorly-formed RFC and consensus-lacking MOS:TV discussion to provide context of poor editorial decisions and skills. Happy New Year! -- /
Alex/
21
03:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Sky announced that all episode of season 2 will be out on Jan 8th (in a binge model) so the season 2 episodes section needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babar Suhail ( talk • contribs)
What the heck is your issue?????? The guideline WP:LEAD says "The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents." The premise of the show is one of its most important contents, so it belongs in the lead. "It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies." The topic includes what the show is about. The important points include who the main characters are and what they do. Why the hell shouldn't a lead section summarize each of its sections, which includes a brief overview of the premise, of the important cast AND characters, its release, and – as I also added and you inappropriately reverted – its reception??? Reywas92 Talk 14:18, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Should the lead section include a summary of major aspects of the article, specifically including premise but also reception, such as
this or
this version?
Reywas92
Talk
14:13, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm missing info about composer and music production 185.80.180.20 ( talk) 15:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC)