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The "Political Right"
This article presents an interesting idea: that Rowse's increasing opposition to Nazis and their sympathizers makes him a "right-winger."
I would also note that Rowse campaigned against appeasement during the 1930's. I guess this would make him an ally of Winston Churchill, and therefore a "right-winger?"
Well, Rowse is a curious case, because he remained a Marxist all his life, but wound up with such misanthropic aphorisms as: "Knowing humans is a waste of time!" As a child, he once shouted down the staircase, "I'm the only one in this house with any brains!" Well, he was right, but he was certainly not polite about revealing this particular truth!
There seems to be little doubt that Rowse developed into a full-fledged curmudgeon. This happens to be one of my favorite literary flavors (at least you know where they stand!), but is obviously not for everyone. The crucial thing, in my opinion, is that these discussions of his personality should not distract us from the pursuit of the truth. What if he was right about the sonnets? What are the odds that he was wrong? 203.170.144.1 14:11, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
What does this term mean? Google reveals no other sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.125.38 ( talk) 07:12, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
I was also unable to find any definition, meaning or reference to the word "swatopotumus" and deleted the reference in article as a consequence. Even if the word isn't bogus, it still needs to be defined and reference given its obvious obscurity. A B Carter ( talk) 22:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I have changed Shakespearian to Shakespearean in the scholarship section of the article for consistency, as the lead has it as Shakespearean. The OED and Chambers dictionaries have both spellings as acceptable, but as Britannica and a number of peer-reviewed journal articles on Rowse use Shakespearean, I have used it here. I don't mind either way, as long as it is consistent. Poltair ( talk) 19:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Lots of apparent original research in this article. Some likely examples:
But there's plenty more... — SMALL JIM 11:55, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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He was known as Leslie Rowse as well as A. L., see for example Ferguson, James (5 October 1997).
"Obituary: A. L. Rowse". The Independent. Retrieved 19 February 2018. With Leslie Rowse it was never the drink; that was one of the secrets of his clear- headedness
, or the Proceeding of the British Academy paper on him
here. He is also referred to as Leslie by some of his contemporaries in published memoirs, diaries, etc. It is unhelpful to the reader here to hide this, and it is ludicrous to claim that mentionin git is a breach of
WP:NPOV.
DuncanHill (
talk)
17:01, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Alfred Leslie Rowse …, known publicly as A. L. Rowse but to friends and family as Leslie, was a …", and the proposed alternative: "
Alfred Leslie Rowse …, published as A. L. Rowse, was a …".
What friends and family called him isn't relevant here"
I think it is. Also called Leslie by eg the British Academy https://www.britac.ac.uk/pubs/proc/files/105p537.pdf and in the Independent obit)"
rv. Family and friends could call him "Barry" and it would be WP:UNDUE here. Both of the obits in The Indep., as well as the BA, call him "Rowse" or "A. L. Rowse". As should we, to maintain WP:NPOV. Full name is there, bold, as it should be."
Take it to the talk page. Your misleading edit summary is disruptive"
… he was called Leslie by those who knew him." citation needed "
It is perfectly proper for the article to mention this." Please cite a policy justification for this assertion. -- Xover ( talk) 20:02, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Lede is appropriate as it is. What a ridiculous edit war. Xxanthippe ( talk) 21:35, 19 February 2018 (UTC).
Rowse endured doubting comments about his paternity… Any such frustrations were channelled into academia…
Rowse was untroubled by false modesty, as evinced by his self-description in a late work [1] as "the leading historian of Shakespeare's Age."
Reflist NRPanikker ( talk) 17:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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The "Political Right"
This article presents an interesting idea: that Rowse's increasing opposition to Nazis and their sympathizers makes him a "right-winger."
I would also note that Rowse campaigned against appeasement during the 1930's. I guess this would make him an ally of Winston Churchill, and therefore a "right-winger?"
Well, Rowse is a curious case, because he remained a Marxist all his life, but wound up with such misanthropic aphorisms as: "Knowing humans is a waste of time!" As a child, he once shouted down the staircase, "I'm the only one in this house with any brains!" Well, he was right, but he was certainly not polite about revealing this particular truth!
There seems to be little doubt that Rowse developed into a full-fledged curmudgeon. This happens to be one of my favorite literary flavors (at least you know where they stand!), but is obviously not for everyone. The crucial thing, in my opinion, is that these discussions of his personality should not distract us from the pursuit of the truth. What if he was right about the sonnets? What are the odds that he was wrong? 203.170.144.1 14:11, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
What does this term mean? Google reveals no other sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.125.38 ( talk) 07:12, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
I was also unable to find any definition, meaning or reference to the word "swatopotumus" and deleted the reference in article as a consequence. Even if the word isn't bogus, it still needs to be defined and reference given its obvious obscurity. A B Carter ( talk) 22:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I have changed Shakespearian to Shakespearean in the scholarship section of the article for consistency, as the lead has it as Shakespearean. The OED and Chambers dictionaries have both spellings as acceptable, but as Britannica and a number of peer-reviewed journal articles on Rowse use Shakespearean, I have used it here. I don't mind either way, as long as it is consistent. Poltair ( talk) 19:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Lots of apparent original research in this article. Some likely examples:
But there's plenty more... — SMALL JIM 11:55, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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He was known as Leslie Rowse as well as A. L., see for example Ferguson, James (5 October 1997).
"Obituary: A. L. Rowse". The Independent. Retrieved 19 February 2018. With Leslie Rowse it was never the drink; that was one of the secrets of his clear- headedness
, or the Proceeding of the British Academy paper on him
here. He is also referred to as Leslie by some of his contemporaries in published memoirs, diaries, etc. It is unhelpful to the reader here to hide this, and it is ludicrous to claim that mentionin git is a breach of
WP:NPOV.
DuncanHill (
talk)
17:01, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Alfred Leslie Rowse …, known publicly as A. L. Rowse but to friends and family as Leslie, was a …", and the proposed alternative: "
Alfred Leslie Rowse …, published as A. L. Rowse, was a …".
What friends and family called him isn't relevant here"
I think it is. Also called Leslie by eg the British Academy https://www.britac.ac.uk/pubs/proc/files/105p537.pdf and in the Independent obit)"
rv. Family and friends could call him "Barry" and it would be WP:UNDUE here. Both of the obits in The Indep., as well as the BA, call him "Rowse" or "A. L. Rowse". As should we, to maintain WP:NPOV. Full name is there, bold, as it should be."
Take it to the talk page. Your misleading edit summary is disruptive"
… he was called Leslie by those who knew him." citation needed "
It is perfectly proper for the article to mention this." Please cite a policy justification for this assertion. -- Xover ( talk) 20:02, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Lede is appropriate as it is. What a ridiculous edit war. Xxanthippe ( talk) 21:35, 19 February 2018 (UTC).
Rowse endured doubting comments about his paternity… Any such frustrations were channelled into academia…
Rowse was untroubled by false modesty, as evinced by his self-description in a late work [1] as "the leading historian of Shakespeare's Age."
Reflist NRPanikker ( talk) 17:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)