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Requested move 8 April 2018
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moving as requested: as noted, the only current encyclopedia topic with this title. The argument behind some opposes is deprecated by
WP:TPTM. Other opposes express concern that the song may not be notable, but that can only be determined via a different venue. As an added benefit, this eliminates a strange hatnote at the top of
12-hour clock. A hatnote can be added here instead.
Dekimasuよ!01:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Moved from Technical request for discussion. The new title
8AM currently redirects to article about time/clock which looks more befitting to it. –
Ammarpad (
talk)
14:07, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
"What is the first thing you associate with..." is a for parlour game or a psychoanalysis session, not a method of constructing an encyclopædia. —
AjaxSmack18:28, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Restored. These are not supposed to be votes. You yourself added a second oppose comment below in addition to your original comment.
Station1 (
talk)
17:59, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Nothing about that. You said it yourself. I only voted once, and commented twice. Don't deceive yourself. There's a vote and it counts, that's why it is bolded. –
Ammarpad (
talk)
22:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
WP:RM says: "Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line."
Dekimasuよ!06:19, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes, and it's fine to point that out if the closer might not notice, but
talk page guidelines say "Striking text constitutes a change in meaning, and should only be done by the user who wrote it or someone acting at their explicit request" (with exceptions that don't apply in this case).
Station1 (
talk)
16:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose/delete: This article isn't even sourced, and the term is ambiguous. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 16:29, 9 April 2018 (UTC
Oppose: Well I seriously have to oppose this. Unreferenced obscure song cannot claim this title. Universally if you utter "8AM" there's higher probably of thinking about instance of time than anything other. –
Ammarpad (
talk)
11:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Requested move 8 April 2020
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
8AM → 8AM (maxi-single) – About two years ago, there was consensus established via a move discussion at
Talk:8AM (song)#Requested move 8 April 2018 that the subject of this article (the subjects at
8AM (maxi-single) and
8AM (song) [see the latter's edit history]) should be at the "8AM" title without a disambiguator. I don't agree with that since I do not see how the spaces and periods comparing "8 A.M." and "8AM" are enough to distinguish each other, especially since the version without spaces or periods could also refer to the time of the day. For this reason, I'm proposing that this article be moved back to the title it was at (as proposed in this move request), and that the leftover redirect at 8AM be retargeted to
8 A.M., a disambiguation page.
Steel1943 (
talk)
02:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Looking back at that discussion (which I closed), however, what strikes me is that there are no other articles called either "8AM" or "8 A.M." Arguably the disambiguation page is at that title for consistency with
9 A.M.,
7 A.M., etc., but there doesn't appear to be any indication that this is not the primary topic if the time is not treated as an encyclopedic topic. I cannot think of any reason why the time of day should ever be wikilinked in a way that would cause confusion. I'd suggest pinging the previous participants.
Dekimasuよ!03:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Requested move 8 April 2018
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moving as requested: as noted, the only current encyclopedia topic with this title. The argument behind some opposes is deprecated by
WP:TPTM. Other opposes express concern that the song may not be notable, but that can only be determined via a different venue. As an added benefit, this eliminates a strange hatnote at the top of
12-hour clock. A hatnote can be added here instead.
Dekimasuよ!01:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Moved from Technical request for discussion. The new title
8AM currently redirects to article about time/clock which looks more befitting to it. –
Ammarpad (
talk)
14:07, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
"What is the first thing you associate with..." is a for parlour game or a psychoanalysis session, not a method of constructing an encyclopædia. —
AjaxSmack18:28, 8 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Restored. These are not supposed to be votes. You yourself added a second oppose comment below in addition to your original comment.
Station1 (
talk)
17:59, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Nothing about that. You said it yourself. I only voted once, and commented twice. Don't deceive yourself. There's a vote and it counts, that's why it is bolded. –
Ammarpad (
talk)
22:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
WP:RM says: "Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line."
Dekimasuよ!06:19, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes, and it's fine to point that out if the closer might not notice, but
talk page guidelines say "Striking text constitutes a change in meaning, and should only be done by the user who wrote it or someone acting at their explicit request" (with exceptions that don't apply in this case).
Station1 (
talk)
16:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose/delete: This article isn't even sourced, and the term is ambiguous. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 16:29, 9 April 2018 (UTC
Oppose: Well I seriously have to oppose this. Unreferenced obscure song cannot claim this title. Universally if you utter "8AM" there's higher probably of thinking about instance of time than anything other. –
Ammarpad (
talk)
11:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Requested move 8 April 2020
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
8AM → 8AM (maxi-single) – About two years ago, there was consensus established via a move discussion at
Talk:8AM (song)#Requested move 8 April 2018 that the subject of this article (the subjects at
8AM (maxi-single) and
8AM (song) [see the latter's edit history]) should be at the "8AM" title without a disambiguator. I don't agree with that since I do not see how the spaces and periods comparing "8 A.M." and "8AM" are enough to distinguish each other, especially since the version without spaces or periods could also refer to the time of the day. For this reason, I'm proposing that this article be moved back to the title it was at (as proposed in this move request), and that the leftover redirect at 8AM be retargeted to
8 A.M., a disambiguation page.
Steel1943 (
talk)
02:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Looking back at that discussion (which I closed), however, what strikes me is that there are no other articles called either "8AM" or "8 A.M." Arguably the disambiguation page is at that title for consistency with
9 A.M.,
7 A.M., etc., but there doesn't appear to be any indication that this is not the primary topic if the time is not treated as an encyclopedic topic. I cannot think of any reason why the time of day should ever be wikilinked in a way that would cause confusion. I'd suggest pinging the previous participants.
Dekimasuよ!03:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.