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There are currently six pictures on this page. Even the thumbnailed versions are a little large. I'm thinking the page would look better with two pictures or, at most, three; this would bring the article more in line with articles for other bands. Which ones do people think we should keep? I like Image:Aly&AJ1WEST.jpg and perhaps Image:Wikimage_1.jpg, but I'm open to convincing. -- Yamla 00:16, 1 November 2005 (UTC)…
I appologize for anything on this page that you do not like, however I specifically wrote ABOUT Aly and AJ's albums for a reason, I wanted to explain a little bit. My original intent is not know, however would it be okay to put information about their albums back in? Thank you. -- vmatikov
I merged in from the other Aly and AJ page and tried to remove duplications and ran into trouble. Could someone please clean up the page and remove the cleanup tag I added? Tedernst 17:50, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I removed two instances of a large number of -'s. Not sure why they were there to begin with, couldn't find a reference in the past edits or talk page. 128.193.183.117 20:34, 23 March 2006 (UTC)EricBetts (bettse@onid.orst.edu)
Where r u people finding that Into the Rush is certified gold because I have looked all through the RIAA website and i can't find it.
Are these sections really necessary? "Similar artists" is a very vague term, and any given artist could be influenced by hundreds of sources, many of which do not merit Wikipedia articles. Therefore these sections seem inappropriate or just out of place. - Rosepuff12 03:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't think the interview is necessary because the page is about Aly and AJ's accomplishments and the interview is just not appropiate for the page. It might be to gossipy too. Not everything could be true on the page. - Rosepuff12 14:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I should really point out that both Alyson and Amanda use Code Names when they are credited for their musical works, and I believe in code names. While this ain't no Metal Gear Solid "thing", the fact that Alyson and AJ uses "code names" or "pseudonyms" warrant the article to use their code names to credit them. Therefore, personally, and from my point-of-view, we should be addressing the Michalka sisters by their "code names", even though this ain't no military. I had to make a minor edit because using code names in this article (unless it's a single person) makes the article look more uniform IMO. Therefore, I appreciate if Alyson is code-named ALY and Amanda is code-named AJ, much like the record label. Thanks. — Mark Kim ( Reply/Start Talk) 05:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Alright, let's settle this so we don't have a revert war. I see four distinct schools of thought on how to handle this evolution business. The two expressed their disbelief in the:
Option 4 is my preference. Is this really one of the most important things about these two? Is it even the most important thing from the Blender interview? To me, including it at all seems to be a POV attempt to ridicule Aly & AJ, Christians, or both. (I am neither a Christian nor an Aly & AJ fan, in case you were wondering.)
My second choice would be option 2, including the link I just added to what a scientific theory is. It's a shame scientifically illiterate people abuse the word theory, with regard to evolution, to make evolution seem less believable; but again, those people are usually scientifically illiterate. The fact is, as the theory article explains, evolution fits exactly the definition of a scientific theory.
I don't understand the reversion to "process". Theory is the much more commonly understood term, and it makes more sense in the context of the sentence (to me). If you can show me verifiable sources that science has made a sea change to favor process over theory, fine, but I doubt that is the case. The function of theories in science is long established and important; I would be disappointed if the community changed its terminology for PR reasons.
As for option 3, the scare quotes are clearly a POV attempt to make it look like anyone who disbelieves evolution must be stupid, and that people who use the word theory to describe evolution are incorrect and are using it disparagingly. I trust I've discussed both points at length.
I'd like to see the thoughts of others on this issue here rather than in an edit war. -- SuperNova | T| C| 18:15, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of the group and as a scientist I don't give credence to the views of the misinformed on evolution. However, I find the reference here to the girls' beliefs regarding evolution to be completely out of context for the article. Someone mentions evolution out of the blue based on a select excerpt from a Blender article, yet not a single other view the girls hold is mentioned anywhere else in the article (other than the fact that they don't consider themselves a Christian Pop group). Why is their belief or disbelief in evolution being singled out as important when no other belief or disbelief is? Seems to me someone has an agenda, although the issue is so confused I can't tell if it's someone who ridicules the girls (by showcasing their obvious ignorance of evolution) or someone who praises them (by showcasing about their disbelief in evolution). Removing the reference altogether would, I think, be best for the article and that is what I'm going to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.145.53.186 ( talk) 05:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that we could move the evolution interview to a different spot, like to a trivia section of something like that? - Rosepuff12 22:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
There you go, I'll let you guys hash out what to use. Hope it helps. Jay 02:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Um,actually,they will not be reprising roles,they do not want to for their own reasons.I have taken that off. JakeTheBlake 21:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
It really needs major clean up. It has a large amount of unecassary information and seems to be POV. -- MorwenofLossarnarch 13:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Aly & AJ have released one album; I hardly think a separate discography article is necessary. Also, this article is rather short as it is. Extraordinary Machine 00:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
They have released three :
And they'll have another one this year.I don't think that's enough for a whole article unless you plan to put credits and other categories. JakeTheBlake 21:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, the original Into The Rush is rarely sold anymore. Everytime I search for it online, I only get the deluxe ones. As of July 21, 2007, they have released 3 actual albums and 1 rerealeased album. On an interview, Aly said that Insomniatic will have a rerelease.
ALBUMS:
- Into the Rush (2005) - Acoustic Hearts of Winter (2006) - Insomniatic (2007)
RERELEASES:
- Into the Rush (2006) - Insomniatic (Sept. 2007)
I took out the bit of trivia about there height. That cannot be included because they are still growing. Also, whoever keeps putting "Not This Year" as a single from Acoustic Hearts of Winter. They have not mentioned anything about it, and its too late for them to release it anyways. Its almost Christmas...! Switchfo0t813
Why are Aly and AJ classified and Christian artists? They don't make Christian music, with the exception of some of the religious songs on their Christmas album and one other song that has "God" appearing once in the lyrics. The majority of their fanbase was acquired from their affiliation with/promotion by the Disney Channel, not from their music being played on Christian stations. Dukie010 07:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Enough Is Enough. Switchfo0t813, you keep adding "Christian Pop" to their genre even though you are the only one here who thinks they are a Christian band. Even the website you purport to work for does not think they are a Christian band. I cannot find mention of them being a Christian band on their myspace page or their main website. You are deliberately adding false information to a band's page that contains people who are still alive; the way I see it, that's grounds for libel. They are certainly musicians who are christians, but they are not a Christian band. -- King Bee 22:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I never stated that it was you who changed the genre, Acalamari. However, I think it would be only fair and reasonable to include both genres. =] Switchfo0t813 23:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Let me throw in my two cents: I'm sorry, but I hate it when Wikipedia classify's someone a Christian singer, just because they are Christian, or have ONE Christian song. I'm seeing the same thing on the Jonas Brothers and Everlife. Here's an example you guys should think about; the Miley Cyrus article lists her as an actress, and a Pop Singer. Notice how she's from Tennessee, has family ties with country music (a.k.a.: Billy Ray Cyrus), and has even sung one country song with her dad (I Learned From You), AND yet she's still listed as a Pop Singer, and not Country/Pop. Well, that just what I wanna say. Abcw12 11:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
King Bee, why have you put citation needed on so many pieces of trivia? All you simply have to do is search on Google and you will find all of that information credible and true. Switchfo0t813
I have temporarily protected this article and blocked two users because of the edit warring going on here. I think all involved know that this is inappropriate. Any arguments need to become simple, cooperative discussions with a goal of consensus before the page is unprotected again. I will be happy to mediate. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 04:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Is the myspace link really necessary for the page? I think it might not be that appropriate for the page. - Rosepuff12 00:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
But they DO have a myspace.
I am mediating a dispute between user:King Bee and User:Switchfo0t813. User:Acalamari is also a party, but has agreed to be speak through user:King Bee. Unless you are one of the two named parties, please do not participate unless I open the debate. Alan.ca 00:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Cased background, Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-12 Aly & AJ Genre Classification
User:Switchfo0t813, please include the cited sources in detail, where we can find the information that supports inclusion of a Christian or Inspirational Pop genre classification. We need you to be specific so that we may verify your sources. Alan.ca 00:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Scroll down and you will see the nominees list. Aly & AJ were nominated for Contemporary INSPRIRATIONAL Artist of the Year, formely known as Christian Artist of the Year, for this past September's American Music Awards. Switchfo0t813 20:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I think the controversy section should be put up because they have been in a lot of controversy lately.
Why isn't it a reliable source? He never tells gossip. People sent concerned emails to him about the issue and thats why he posted that. -Cena
Just leave it, I found out that Tommy has some kind of a grudge on Aly & Aj. Their attire is no different than it ever was, I looked through pics over the span of a year. I bought into what he was saying but people such as the editor of Christianity today told me not to buy into it. -Cena
PluggedIn (division of FOTF expressed some concern about the girl's recent career choices and they weren't too impressed with the second album. Super Sweet Second Thoughts about Aly & AJ WAVY 10 19:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Um, they haven't graduated high school yet. Well, one of them hasn't at least. NEXT! Graduating top during middle or elementary schools isn't noteworthy.
They both did. Eliana Eliana
Uh, yes they have. 72.146.66.181 23:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
As someone said in the Alyson Michalka talk page: "The pages are very similar, and we could always just have an "AJ" and "Aly" section for each until their careers diverge significantly."
This should be discussed and decided upon.
The Ðark Crusader 03:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I would also like to point out something mentioned in Amanda's talk page: "the duo passes WP:BIO but the girls individually do not. - Otto4711". Keeping the separate articles is below Wikipedia's Biography standards. I wouldn't mind as much if there was a possibility of expanding their respective articles, but there's just not enough information to do so. Alyson and Amanda are obviously rising stars, and I don't doubt that eventually their paths will diverge and they will become more notable, but until then they don't need separate articles. The Ðark Crusader 21:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree both of there pages are sort already, there is no need for them to have sparete pages. Ultimaterasengan 18:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Here's an idea... leave them seperate. Alyson has had different appearances on TV and AJ has had different appearances as well. Pus minor things that seperate them like... trivia Markcambrone 03:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
So? they should still have combind pages, there is no need for them to have sperate ones, not to mention they pracitly say the same thing Ultimaterasengan 17:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I'd say that you shouldn't merge them. The articles would be hard to merge, and also have a fare bit of imformation on them. Mrx9898 08:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
They wouldn't be hard to merge at all, mabye a little, but we could just put a line to separte the articales or something like that. Janpanrocks56 12:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be better to merge AJ's article with Alyson's and have "AJ Michalka", "Amanda Joy Michalka", etc. redirect to the article "Alyson Michalka" (at least until AJ's career has gained a notable independence from Aly's career), where Aly's achievements would be discussed in detail and AJ's forthcomings are highlighted? "Alyson Michalka" would focus on the sisters' budding (and separate yet intertwined) careers as actresses while a co-existing "Aly & AJ" article would feature the musical achievements of the two-girl band with in-depth information about the band's rise to fame, etc. If executed with extreme discretion to follow the instruction of the previous sentence, the only real dilemma in having these two separate articles would be the overlapping of chronology (which couldn't be avoided anyway, as history cannot occur anachronously). This being said, the future of the debated three articles will weigh heavily on the success or failure of either AJ or the band. If Amanda Joy becomes more prolific in her acting than Aly & AJ does in the music industry, then my previous idea of two articles ("Alyson Michalka" and "Aly & AJ") would have to yield to accommodate the newly risen (and autonomous) star with her own article: "AJ Michalka". If, however, the band gains more renown than AJ does in her personal career, it would be best to leave the article count at two("Alyson Michalka" and "Aly & AJ"), as AJ would be a mere extension of Aly. (Just in case she reads this, even though I shouldn't give my opinion: I hope AJ does as well, if not better than, her sister, Aly. To the fellow "talkers", please disregard the previous sentence.) Thank you for your time. Sushisticks 11:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
How about we jsut keep it as it is (no merge!)? They have accomplished different things. "Aly & AJ" article is aobut them as a duo. THe separates are about them independently. Aly & Aj is just a stage name! Eliana Eliana 21:33, 21 July 2007 (UTC) I VOTE NO MERGE!
who cares if they acopleshed different things! There articales are very sort, they should be merged! And most people want them meerged anyway! Ultimaterasengan 16:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I also think that we should keep them the way they are. There is enough information on each one for a good sized article. If there is any info that overlaps then they can be reduced. But I don't think merging would be a good idea especially because they are both still currently famous. If more info becomes available soon then it would just be more work to redivide them up again. Ospinad 22:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be stupid because this is a BAND and the other pages are about the INDIVIDUAL so it would make NO sense to merge them. just as an example that would be like merging gene simmons with kiss o and the capital is to add emphasis i hope you like it =D\ 76.20.133.102 23:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree, they should NOT merge them. Like you said, this is about a BAND. They shouldn't merge the biography pages with their band page. It's dumb.
72.146.66.181
23:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think they should be merged together. First of all, Aly seems to have a distinct acting career compared to AJ's. Second, Aly's and Aj's own article should focus their careers on acting while the Aly & AJ article should focus them as a musical group with little references to their acting roles. Jairus Garin 23:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I watched thier recent MTV birthday special, and when they were opening thier presents, clearly displayed front and center was the Monkees' 1967 album HEADQUARTERS...looked like a vynal copy, at that. Anyone know if the girls are big Monkees fans? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.241.158.225 ( talk) 19:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I know that they have a DS game comeing out. Should we add it? Ultimaterasengan ( talk) 21:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Messy Thinking ( talk) If Aly and A.J. (individually) become part of the Aly & AJ page, are their separate profiles going to be protected? And will a click of their names be made to lead to said profiles? —Preceding comment was added at 01:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I removed alternative rock since i believe that they are not alt rock. They are simply teen pop. Alt rock is like Smashing Pumpkins, Foo fighters, Green Day, Fugazi etc. DavidJJJ ( talk) 17:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
August 18, 2008 - I have removed the "Category:All-women bands" tag as they do not record or perform live with other female musicians. When they do solo/acoustic sets one could say they were an "all female band" however simply being two females who have a back up band does not make them an "all female band". As examples you could site Joan Jett, Lita Ford and Suzi Quatro. All females who play however they all had/have backing bands who are not 100% female. Soundvisions1 ( talk) 06:50, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I think that we need apicture for the article. DavidJJJ ( talk) 17:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Aly and AJ Rock and Roll Mysteries isnt in the article. Unless I missed it,that should be in there -- LilMissNicole+++.;+= ( talk) 19:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 02:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi i was reading throuh this since im a Aly & AJ (call me obssesesed if you want i dont care) any way i have all almbunms movies up todate on and i noticed on the part were it says what films their in. I noticed in Cow Belles it says AJ Plays Taylor Callum. It's actualy Aly who plays Taylor (trust me i've watched the film long enough to know who playd who) any way i don't liked editing these pages my self so i thout it's best that you knew about this error Thanks
Amsith501. (Call me Sandy) 29/9/08 3:30PM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asmith501 ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Under personal life - which I assume to mean items not related to their performing career - all you can come up with is a mention of a stalker? TheDarkOneLives ( talk) 23:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Aly and AJ are christian.they are more rock then pop.I love thier song rush.it is awesome!rock on ALY AND AJ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.86.226.11 ( talk) 18:37, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
I have just reverted everything to do with their rename to "78violet", as there was no "confirmation" that I could find, and it was all sourced with Twitter. I also re-moved the page back to "Aly & AJ" for now as well. Can we at least wait until sources more reliable than Twitter are released to see if they really have changed their name or not? Thanks. Acalamari 20:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
There have been various attempts at page moves between these two spellings. Can editors please stop moving the page without discussion and provide some reliable sources about the spelling/spacing of the name. Once we have consensus on the right spelling we can move the page (or not). -- Slp1 ( talk) 18:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
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This section is to discuss what the title implies. Ging287 ( talk) 01:19, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I noticed there is no reference to The Sims 2: Pets expansion. They did Chemicals React for the Pets expansion, including a music video, and such huge Sims fans already that they were able to write the song in "Simlish" without any help from Maxis.
Here is an article about it...
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This page is marked as copyright to the Walt Disney Corporation and to Hollywood Records. This is completely unacceptable and the original submitter has already agreed to release copyright on this material. However, I have requested that the user himself/herself clarify the copyright status of the page, either by removing the notice or by removing any copyrighted material from the page. If this is not done immediately, I will mark the page as a copyright violation and we will have an administrator look it over. -- Yamla 02:12, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
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There are currently six pictures on this page. Even the thumbnailed versions are a little large. I'm thinking the page would look better with two pictures or, at most, three; this would bring the article more in line with articles for other bands. Which ones do people think we should keep? I like Image:Aly&AJ1WEST.jpg and perhaps Image:Wikimage_1.jpg, but I'm open to convincing. -- Yamla 00:16, 1 November 2005 (UTC)…
I appologize for anything on this page that you do not like, however I specifically wrote ABOUT Aly and AJ's albums for a reason, I wanted to explain a little bit. My original intent is not know, however would it be okay to put information about their albums back in? Thank you. -- vmatikov
I merged in from the other Aly and AJ page and tried to remove duplications and ran into trouble. Could someone please clean up the page and remove the cleanup tag I added? Tedernst 17:50, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I removed two instances of a large number of -'s. Not sure why they were there to begin with, couldn't find a reference in the past edits or talk page. 128.193.183.117 20:34, 23 March 2006 (UTC)EricBetts (bettse@onid.orst.edu)
Where r u people finding that Into the Rush is certified gold because I have looked all through the RIAA website and i can't find it.
Are these sections really necessary? "Similar artists" is a very vague term, and any given artist could be influenced by hundreds of sources, many of which do not merit Wikipedia articles. Therefore these sections seem inappropriate or just out of place. - Rosepuff12 03:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't think the interview is necessary because the page is about Aly and AJ's accomplishments and the interview is just not appropiate for the page. It might be to gossipy too. Not everything could be true on the page. - Rosepuff12 14:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I should really point out that both Alyson and Amanda use Code Names when they are credited for their musical works, and I believe in code names. While this ain't no Metal Gear Solid "thing", the fact that Alyson and AJ uses "code names" or "pseudonyms" warrant the article to use their code names to credit them. Therefore, personally, and from my point-of-view, we should be addressing the Michalka sisters by their "code names", even though this ain't no military. I had to make a minor edit because using code names in this article (unless it's a single person) makes the article look more uniform IMO. Therefore, I appreciate if Alyson is code-named ALY and Amanda is code-named AJ, much like the record label. Thanks. — Mark Kim ( Reply/Start Talk) 05:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Alright, let's settle this so we don't have a revert war. I see four distinct schools of thought on how to handle this evolution business. The two expressed their disbelief in the:
Option 4 is my preference. Is this really one of the most important things about these two? Is it even the most important thing from the Blender interview? To me, including it at all seems to be a POV attempt to ridicule Aly & AJ, Christians, or both. (I am neither a Christian nor an Aly & AJ fan, in case you were wondering.)
My second choice would be option 2, including the link I just added to what a scientific theory is. It's a shame scientifically illiterate people abuse the word theory, with regard to evolution, to make evolution seem less believable; but again, those people are usually scientifically illiterate. The fact is, as the theory article explains, evolution fits exactly the definition of a scientific theory.
I don't understand the reversion to "process". Theory is the much more commonly understood term, and it makes more sense in the context of the sentence (to me). If you can show me verifiable sources that science has made a sea change to favor process over theory, fine, but I doubt that is the case. The function of theories in science is long established and important; I would be disappointed if the community changed its terminology for PR reasons.
As for option 3, the scare quotes are clearly a POV attempt to make it look like anyone who disbelieves evolution must be stupid, and that people who use the word theory to describe evolution are incorrect and are using it disparagingly. I trust I've discussed both points at length.
I'd like to see the thoughts of others on this issue here rather than in an edit war. -- SuperNova | T| C| 18:15, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of the group and as a scientist I don't give credence to the views of the misinformed on evolution. However, I find the reference here to the girls' beliefs regarding evolution to be completely out of context for the article. Someone mentions evolution out of the blue based on a select excerpt from a Blender article, yet not a single other view the girls hold is mentioned anywhere else in the article (other than the fact that they don't consider themselves a Christian Pop group). Why is their belief or disbelief in evolution being singled out as important when no other belief or disbelief is? Seems to me someone has an agenda, although the issue is so confused I can't tell if it's someone who ridicules the girls (by showcasing their obvious ignorance of evolution) or someone who praises them (by showcasing about their disbelief in evolution). Removing the reference altogether would, I think, be best for the article and that is what I'm going to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.145.53.186 ( talk) 05:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that we could move the evolution interview to a different spot, like to a trivia section of something like that? - Rosepuff12 22:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
There you go, I'll let you guys hash out what to use. Hope it helps. Jay 02:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Um,actually,they will not be reprising roles,they do not want to for their own reasons.I have taken that off. JakeTheBlake 21:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
It really needs major clean up. It has a large amount of unecassary information and seems to be POV. -- MorwenofLossarnarch 13:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Aly & AJ have released one album; I hardly think a separate discography article is necessary. Also, this article is rather short as it is. Extraordinary Machine 00:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
They have released three :
And they'll have another one this year.I don't think that's enough for a whole article unless you plan to put credits and other categories. JakeTheBlake 21:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, the original Into The Rush is rarely sold anymore. Everytime I search for it online, I only get the deluxe ones. As of July 21, 2007, they have released 3 actual albums and 1 rerealeased album. On an interview, Aly said that Insomniatic will have a rerelease.
ALBUMS:
- Into the Rush (2005) - Acoustic Hearts of Winter (2006) - Insomniatic (2007)
RERELEASES:
- Into the Rush (2006) - Insomniatic (Sept. 2007)
I took out the bit of trivia about there height. That cannot be included because they are still growing. Also, whoever keeps putting "Not This Year" as a single from Acoustic Hearts of Winter. They have not mentioned anything about it, and its too late for them to release it anyways. Its almost Christmas...! Switchfo0t813
Why are Aly and AJ classified and Christian artists? They don't make Christian music, with the exception of some of the religious songs on their Christmas album and one other song that has "God" appearing once in the lyrics. The majority of their fanbase was acquired from their affiliation with/promotion by the Disney Channel, not from their music being played on Christian stations. Dukie010 07:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Enough Is Enough. Switchfo0t813, you keep adding "Christian Pop" to their genre even though you are the only one here who thinks they are a Christian band. Even the website you purport to work for does not think they are a Christian band. I cannot find mention of them being a Christian band on their myspace page or their main website. You are deliberately adding false information to a band's page that contains people who are still alive; the way I see it, that's grounds for libel. They are certainly musicians who are christians, but they are not a Christian band. -- King Bee 22:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I never stated that it was you who changed the genre, Acalamari. However, I think it would be only fair and reasonable to include both genres. =] Switchfo0t813 23:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Let me throw in my two cents: I'm sorry, but I hate it when Wikipedia classify's someone a Christian singer, just because they are Christian, or have ONE Christian song. I'm seeing the same thing on the Jonas Brothers and Everlife. Here's an example you guys should think about; the Miley Cyrus article lists her as an actress, and a Pop Singer. Notice how she's from Tennessee, has family ties with country music (a.k.a.: Billy Ray Cyrus), and has even sung one country song with her dad (I Learned From You), AND yet she's still listed as a Pop Singer, and not Country/Pop. Well, that just what I wanna say. Abcw12 11:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
King Bee, why have you put citation needed on so many pieces of trivia? All you simply have to do is search on Google and you will find all of that information credible and true. Switchfo0t813
I have temporarily protected this article and blocked two users because of the edit warring going on here. I think all involved know that this is inappropriate. Any arguments need to become simple, cooperative discussions with a goal of consensus before the page is unprotected again. I will be happy to mediate. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 04:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Is the myspace link really necessary for the page? I think it might not be that appropriate for the page. - Rosepuff12 00:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
But they DO have a myspace.
I am mediating a dispute between user:King Bee and User:Switchfo0t813. User:Acalamari is also a party, but has agreed to be speak through user:King Bee. Unless you are one of the two named parties, please do not participate unless I open the debate. Alan.ca 00:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Cased background, Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-12 Aly & AJ Genre Classification
User:Switchfo0t813, please include the cited sources in detail, where we can find the information that supports inclusion of a Christian or Inspirational Pop genre classification. We need you to be specific so that we may verify your sources. Alan.ca 00:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Scroll down and you will see the nominees list. Aly & AJ were nominated for Contemporary INSPRIRATIONAL Artist of the Year, formely known as Christian Artist of the Year, for this past September's American Music Awards. Switchfo0t813 20:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I think the controversy section should be put up because they have been in a lot of controversy lately.
Why isn't it a reliable source? He never tells gossip. People sent concerned emails to him about the issue and thats why he posted that. -Cena
Just leave it, I found out that Tommy has some kind of a grudge on Aly & Aj. Their attire is no different than it ever was, I looked through pics over the span of a year. I bought into what he was saying but people such as the editor of Christianity today told me not to buy into it. -Cena
PluggedIn (division of FOTF expressed some concern about the girl's recent career choices and they weren't too impressed with the second album. Super Sweet Second Thoughts about Aly & AJ WAVY 10 19:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Um, they haven't graduated high school yet. Well, one of them hasn't at least. NEXT! Graduating top during middle or elementary schools isn't noteworthy.
They both did. Eliana Eliana
Uh, yes they have. 72.146.66.181 23:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
As someone said in the Alyson Michalka talk page: "The pages are very similar, and we could always just have an "AJ" and "Aly" section for each until their careers diverge significantly."
This should be discussed and decided upon.
The Ðark Crusader 03:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I would also like to point out something mentioned in Amanda's talk page: "the duo passes WP:BIO but the girls individually do not. - Otto4711". Keeping the separate articles is below Wikipedia's Biography standards. I wouldn't mind as much if there was a possibility of expanding their respective articles, but there's just not enough information to do so. Alyson and Amanda are obviously rising stars, and I don't doubt that eventually their paths will diverge and they will become more notable, but until then they don't need separate articles. The Ðark Crusader 21:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree both of there pages are sort already, there is no need for them to have sparete pages. Ultimaterasengan 18:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Here's an idea... leave them seperate. Alyson has had different appearances on TV and AJ has had different appearances as well. Pus minor things that seperate them like... trivia Markcambrone 03:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
So? they should still have combind pages, there is no need for them to have sperate ones, not to mention they pracitly say the same thing Ultimaterasengan 17:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I'd say that you shouldn't merge them. The articles would be hard to merge, and also have a fare bit of imformation on them. Mrx9898 08:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
They wouldn't be hard to merge at all, mabye a little, but we could just put a line to separte the articales or something like that. Janpanrocks56 12:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be better to merge AJ's article with Alyson's and have "AJ Michalka", "Amanda Joy Michalka", etc. redirect to the article "Alyson Michalka" (at least until AJ's career has gained a notable independence from Aly's career), where Aly's achievements would be discussed in detail and AJ's forthcomings are highlighted? "Alyson Michalka" would focus on the sisters' budding (and separate yet intertwined) careers as actresses while a co-existing "Aly & AJ" article would feature the musical achievements of the two-girl band with in-depth information about the band's rise to fame, etc. If executed with extreme discretion to follow the instruction of the previous sentence, the only real dilemma in having these two separate articles would be the overlapping of chronology (which couldn't be avoided anyway, as history cannot occur anachronously). This being said, the future of the debated three articles will weigh heavily on the success or failure of either AJ or the band. If Amanda Joy becomes more prolific in her acting than Aly & AJ does in the music industry, then my previous idea of two articles ("Alyson Michalka" and "Aly & AJ") would have to yield to accommodate the newly risen (and autonomous) star with her own article: "AJ Michalka". If, however, the band gains more renown than AJ does in her personal career, it would be best to leave the article count at two("Alyson Michalka" and "Aly & AJ"), as AJ would be a mere extension of Aly. (Just in case she reads this, even though I shouldn't give my opinion: I hope AJ does as well, if not better than, her sister, Aly. To the fellow "talkers", please disregard the previous sentence.) Thank you for your time. Sushisticks 11:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
How about we jsut keep it as it is (no merge!)? They have accomplished different things. "Aly & AJ" article is aobut them as a duo. THe separates are about them independently. Aly & Aj is just a stage name! Eliana Eliana 21:33, 21 July 2007 (UTC) I VOTE NO MERGE!
who cares if they acopleshed different things! There articales are very sort, they should be merged! And most people want them meerged anyway! Ultimaterasengan 16:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I also think that we should keep them the way they are. There is enough information on each one for a good sized article. If there is any info that overlaps then they can be reduced. But I don't think merging would be a good idea especially because they are both still currently famous. If more info becomes available soon then it would just be more work to redivide them up again. Ospinad 22:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be stupid because this is a BAND and the other pages are about the INDIVIDUAL so it would make NO sense to merge them. just as an example that would be like merging gene simmons with kiss o and the capital is to add emphasis i hope you like it =D\ 76.20.133.102 23:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree, they should NOT merge them. Like you said, this is about a BAND. They shouldn't merge the biography pages with their band page. It's dumb.
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I don't think they should be merged together. First of all, Aly seems to have a distinct acting career compared to AJ's. Second, Aly's and Aj's own article should focus their careers on acting while the Aly & AJ article should focus them as a musical group with little references to their acting roles. Jairus Garin 23:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I watched thier recent MTV birthday special, and when they were opening thier presents, clearly displayed front and center was the Monkees' 1967 album HEADQUARTERS...looked like a vynal copy, at that. Anyone know if the girls are big Monkees fans? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.241.158.225 ( talk) 19:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I know that they have a DS game comeing out. Should we add it? Ultimaterasengan ( talk) 21:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Messy Thinking ( talk) If Aly and A.J. (individually) become part of the Aly & AJ page, are their separate profiles going to be protected? And will a click of their names be made to lead to said profiles? —Preceding comment was added at 01:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I removed alternative rock since i believe that they are not alt rock. They are simply teen pop. Alt rock is like Smashing Pumpkins, Foo fighters, Green Day, Fugazi etc. DavidJJJ ( talk) 17:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
August 18, 2008 - I have removed the "Category:All-women bands" tag as they do not record or perform live with other female musicians. When they do solo/acoustic sets one could say they were an "all female band" however simply being two females who have a back up band does not make them an "all female band". As examples you could site Joan Jett, Lita Ford and Suzi Quatro. All females who play however they all had/have backing bands who are not 100% female. Soundvisions1 ( talk) 06:50, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I think that we need apicture for the article. DavidJJJ ( talk) 17:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Aly and AJ Rock and Roll Mysteries isnt in the article. Unless I missed it,that should be in there -- LilMissNicole+++.;+= ( talk) 19:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 02:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi i was reading throuh this since im a Aly & AJ (call me obssesesed if you want i dont care) any way i have all almbunms movies up todate on and i noticed on the part were it says what films their in. I noticed in Cow Belles it says AJ Plays Taylor Callum. It's actualy Aly who plays Taylor (trust me i've watched the film long enough to know who playd who) any way i don't liked editing these pages my self so i thout it's best that you knew about this error Thanks
Amsith501. (Call me Sandy) 29/9/08 3:30PM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asmith501 ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Under personal life - which I assume to mean items not related to their performing career - all you can come up with is a mention of a stalker? TheDarkOneLives ( talk) 23:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Aly and AJ are christian.they are more rock then pop.I love thier song rush.it is awesome!rock on ALY AND AJ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.86.226.11 ( talk) 18:37, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
I have just reverted everything to do with their rename to "78violet", as there was no "confirmation" that I could find, and it was all sourced with Twitter. I also re-moved the page back to "Aly & AJ" for now as well. Can we at least wait until sources more reliable than Twitter are released to see if they really have changed their name or not? Thanks. Acalamari 20:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
There have been various attempts at page moves between these two spellings. Can editors please stop moving the page without discussion and provide some reliable sources about the spelling/spacing of the name. Once we have consensus on the right spelling we can move the page (or not). -- Slp1 ( talk) 18:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
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This section is to discuss what the title implies. Ging287 ( talk) 01:19, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I noticed there is no reference to The Sims 2: Pets expansion. They did Chemicals React for the Pets expansion, including a music video, and such huge Sims fans already that they were able to write the song in "Simlish" without any help from Maxis.
Here is an article about it...
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