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Astroworld Festival crowd crush was a domestic event in the United States, that while tragic, does not meet the standard for this article. The Oxford shooting was also a domestic US event. They are both listed on
2021 in the United States. Q2: Why is the
attempted assassination of Mustafa Al-Kadhimi not listed in the
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Kyle Rittenhouse's acquittal not listed in the
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Add Bob Dole to deaths in 2021 (Dec 5). Add John Madden, Harry Reid to deaths in 2021 (Dec 28). The ganymedian ( talk) 10:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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1. We have already established that she is notable enough to be included on the main list.
2. However, there seems to be a slight division on wheter or not she's notable to have her picture included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:CF80:7440:B4A9:309F:7648:28B0 ( talk) 00:03, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
I’d like to jump in and say I’m from the UK.. so White isn’t a native over here and her photos and story was blanketed over the news last night even on New Years Eve, newspapers have dedicated front pages, Twitter is exploding, she was the 2nd highest trend in the UK under #HappyNewYear for a good few hours yesterday. Trust me she’s very internationally notable and should require a photo. And that’s coming from a 25 year old English man. Bradonwiki ( talk) 20:23, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
She’s probably one of the most loved and most recognisable people in the world. Bradonwiki ( talk) 20:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Television Icon, Betty White passed away December 31st aged 99. As well as being the first woman to exhert control infront of and behind the camera, she was the first woman to produce a tv show, hosted black musicians on her show when it was unpopular to do so, had a NINE decade career starting in 1930, was one of the oldest living members of The Academy and among being one of the most loved and recognisable faces in the world.. ITS BETTY WHITE.. both Biden & Obama and even the US Army even tweeted condolences.
My conclusion is that more than most people on this list, the December section of deaths requires a photo of Betty White. I don’t think anyone will be against that. Bradonwiki ( talk) 20:17, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
That Biden, Obama and the US Army have tweeted their condolences is honestly insignificant and irrelevant. And I think you should take TDKR Chicago's advice. But yes, I think she should have a photo, as she has some international popularity and is easily recognizable. But I don't know if Ben Halim or Wilson's photo would have to drop, both are very relevant, but not as relevant as Tutu and Fernández, in my opinion. And it's always important to try to be gender-balanced. _-_Alsoriano97 ( talk) 13:52, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Guys there seems to be space for a fifth photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.233.79.128 ( talk) 08:25, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
@ TDKR Chicago 101: I’m not agree with what you say. That is to say, in the hypothetical case that in the same month Jimmy Carter and Berlusconi died, it would make sense that this "rule" would not be fulfilled and both could have a photo. Keeping Fernández would also maintain a plurality of races (I don’t want to sound racist, I am not at all) because the representation of Latin American people (Maturana, Menem) in the photos is quite low compared to Arab or African people (Keita, Magufuli, El Saadawi, Ratsiraka, Déby, Jugnauth, Kaunda, Habré, Bouteflika, Banisadr, Ben Halim and Tutu), so the substitution of Ben Halim by White, in this sense, would not seem dramatic. I do not want to be misunderstood. _-_Alsoriano97 ( talk) 17:52, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
With the comparison I want to tell you that, having two majorr entertainment icons, both should have their pic included. That is why this month this rule would not be fulfilled. I would advocate substituting Ben Halim for White, and we would add a woman in a very masculinized month. _-_Alsoriano97 ( talk) 18:07, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
As Prime Minister, under the reign of Idris I, did he have executive powers or did he act as "royal advisor"? I can't really find the answer. _-_Alsoriano97 ( talk) 18:15, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with that — White was an early figure in the inception of television when the medium itself was still in early development. If you Google, ‘Betty White Television Pioneer’ all the information is there. — the reason for her having so many fans is most likely for limited film career, Guinness world record winning television career and genuinely nice persona, but MY reason for her needing to have a photograph on in the section is all that combined with her being instrumental in the growth of television itself, working on experimental tv shows in the 1930s. Being one of the first women to work both infront of and behind the camera. Being the first woman to produce a sitcom. Honestly look it up. She then dominated the 1970s & 80s with Mary Tyler Moore and the especially The Golden Girls, both of which are greatly popular internationally and even 40 years later, now.
Besides, she has far more notability worldwide than Vicente Fernandez, if you did a poll, you’d get a very clear answer. And finally, yes there is a huge lack of women, and for a woman who has had SO many pioneering achievements, she needs to be recognised duly for it. Bradonwiki ( talk) 18:48, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
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talk) 01:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)Perhaps it is time to consider not using images in the death section, they are only being used for decoration and dont really serve an encyclopedic value. Readers can use the article link if they want to know what the subjects look like. MilborneOne ( talk) 18:12, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Mentioned on Talk:2022. Are they internationally notable enough to be included? Jim Michael ( talk) 10:58, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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@ Agtx: Kind regards,
Regarding the removal of the San Miguel del Ene attack from the article, the following references can be included:
Since you haven't specified a policy on notability, I'm not sure what your concerns about notability related to the article are, but the page has independent and sufficient coverage, meeting WP:GNG. An event were eighteen people were killed is clearly notable, and moreover considering that it took place two weeks before the last presidential elections in Peru.
Even though there's not an essay or agreed format on the years articles, however, I understand that a considered aspect for inclusion is the existance of articles of the subject in other languages, another condition that the attack meets: besides English, there are also articles in the Spanish ( es:Atentado de San Miguel del Ene de 2021) and French ( fr:Attaque de San Miguel del Ene) Wikipedias, as well as in Simple English. Lastly, I have to stress once again that the article was included in the Front Page when the attack happened. As such, the article should meet the criteria for inclusion.
Pinging also @ Dunutubble:, who first included the attack. Happy editing! -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 09:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
There is disagreement as to whether or not confirmed Covid cases passing the 150 million mark on April 29th is a milestone event. Seeking additional input here. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:42, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
I’ve proposed this on other Talk pages within other discussions, though I really should have brought it up here in the first place. I propose that for the collage on top of the page, we replace the January 6 United States Capitol attack image with one from the 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis. The latter was a far more internationally notable and significant event, which saw 250+ people killed and tens of thousands of people displaced. The former barely makes the main yearly page as a borderline inclusion - it was a purely domestic event which was a shambolic, quixotic attempt at a coup that never came close to succeeding, and we already include images of successful coups from 2021 of far greater international notability, such as the 2021 Myanmar coup d'état and the October–November 2021 Sudanese coup d'état. TheScrubby ( talk) 03:15, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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At Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Years#Lead_image, a discussion on whether to depreciate collages in general in going on. Please share your thoughts.-- Marginataen ( talk) 21:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC) |
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would also like to suggest changing the date format of this article to the DMY format (e.g. 6 June 2020 as opposed to June 6, 2020).The DMY format seems more international and more suitable for a "global" article like. Also DMY simply makes more sense as it goes from smallest to highest. On the project page, I've presented a similar proposal to use DMY in general for articles on "generic" years, but would also like it create consensus for it specifically on this article about 2020 and all other nine articles about the 2020s Marginataen ( talk) 19:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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Frequently asked questions Q1: Why are the
Astroworld Festival crowd crush and
Oxford High School shooting not included in the
Events section?
A1: Per
a discussion on the talk page, the
Astroworld Festival crowd crush was a domestic event in the United States, that while tragic, does not meet the standard for this article. The Oxford shooting was also a domestic US event. They are both listed on
2021 in the United States. Q2: Why is the
attempted assassination of Mustafa Al-Kadhimi not listed in the
2021 events section?
A2: Assassinations of heads of state or government qualify for the Events section of the article, but failed assassination attempts do not. Q3: Why is
Kyle Rittenhouse's acquittal not listed in the
Events section?
A3: Per
a discussion on the talk page, the
Kenosha unrest shooting has no international notability, which is required for the
Events section. Q4: What are the inclusion criteria for this article?
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Add Bob Dole to deaths in 2021 (Dec 5). Add John Madden, Harry Reid to deaths in 2021 (Dec 28). The ganymedian ( talk) 10:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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1. We have already established that she is notable enough to be included on the main list.
2. However, there seems to be a slight division on wheter or not she's notable to have her picture included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:CF80:7440:B4A9:309F:7648:28B0 ( talk) 00:03, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
I’d like to jump in and say I’m from the UK.. so White isn’t a native over here and her photos and story was blanketed over the news last night even on New Years Eve, newspapers have dedicated front pages, Twitter is exploding, she was the 2nd highest trend in the UK under #HappyNewYear for a good few hours yesterday. Trust me she’s very internationally notable and should require a photo. And that’s coming from a 25 year old English man. Bradonwiki ( talk) 20:23, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
She’s probably one of the most loved and most recognisable people in the world. Bradonwiki ( talk) 20:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Television Icon, Betty White passed away December 31st aged 99. As well as being the first woman to exhert control infront of and behind the camera, she was the first woman to produce a tv show, hosted black musicians on her show when it was unpopular to do so, had a NINE decade career starting in 1930, was one of the oldest living members of The Academy and among being one of the most loved and recognisable faces in the world.. ITS BETTY WHITE.. both Biden & Obama and even the US Army even tweeted condolences.
My conclusion is that more than most people on this list, the December section of deaths requires a photo of Betty White. I don’t think anyone will be against that. Bradonwiki ( talk) 20:17, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
That Biden, Obama and the US Army have tweeted their condolences is honestly insignificant and irrelevant. And I think you should take TDKR Chicago's advice. But yes, I think she should have a photo, as she has some international popularity and is easily recognizable. But I don't know if Ben Halim or Wilson's photo would have to drop, both are very relevant, but not as relevant as Tutu and Fernández, in my opinion. And it's always important to try to be gender-balanced. _-_Alsoriano97 ( talk) 13:52, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Guys there seems to be space for a fifth photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.233.79.128 ( talk) 08:25, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
@ TDKR Chicago 101: I’m not agree with what you say. That is to say, in the hypothetical case that in the same month Jimmy Carter and Berlusconi died, it would make sense that this "rule" would not be fulfilled and both could have a photo. Keeping Fernández would also maintain a plurality of races (I don’t want to sound racist, I am not at all) because the representation of Latin American people (Maturana, Menem) in the photos is quite low compared to Arab or African people (Keita, Magufuli, El Saadawi, Ratsiraka, Déby, Jugnauth, Kaunda, Habré, Bouteflika, Banisadr, Ben Halim and Tutu), so the substitution of Ben Halim by White, in this sense, would not seem dramatic. I do not want to be misunderstood. _-_Alsoriano97 ( talk) 17:52, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
With the comparison I want to tell you that, having two majorr entertainment icons, both should have their pic included. That is why this month this rule would not be fulfilled. I would advocate substituting Ben Halim for White, and we would add a woman in a very masculinized month. _-_Alsoriano97 ( talk) 18:07, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
As Prime Minister, under the reign of Idris I, did he have executive powers or did he act as "royal advisor"? I can't really find the answer. _-_Alsoriano97 ( talk) 18:15, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with that — White was an early figure in the inception of television when the medium itself was still in early development. If you Google, ‘Betty White Television Pioneer’ all the information is there. — the reason for her having so many fans is most likely for limited film career, Guinness world record winning television career and genuinely nice persona, but MY reason for her needing to have a photograph on in the section is all that combined with her being instrumental in the growth of television itself, working on experimental tv shows in the 1930s. Being one of the first women to work both infront of and behind the camera. Being the first woman to produce a sitcom. Honestly look it up. She then dominated the 1970s & 80s with Mary Tyler Moore and the especially The Golden Girls, both of which are greatly popular internationally and even 40 years later, now.
Besides, she has far more notability worldwide than Vicente Fernandez, if you did a poll, you’d get a very clear answer. And finally, yes there is a huge lack of women, and for a woman who has had SO many pioneering achievements, she needs to be recognised duly for it. Bradonwiki ( talk) 18:48, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
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ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 01:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)Perhaps it is time to consider not using images in the death section, they are only being used for decoration and dont really serve an encyclopedic value. Readers can use the article link if they want to know what the subjects look like. MilborneOne ( talk) 18:12, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Mentioned on Talk:2022. Are they internationally notable enough to be included? Jim Michael ( talk) 10:58, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Turns out that at one of the participants of this discussion thread was a banned sockpuppet.
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@ Agtx: Kind regards,
Regarding the removal of the San Miguel del Ene attack from the article, the following references can be included:
Since you haven't specified a policy on notability, I'm not sure what your concerns about notability related to the article are, but the page has independent and sufficient coverage, meeting WP:GNG. An event were eighteen people were killed is clearly notable, and moreover considering that it took place two weeks before the last presidential elections in Peru.
Even though there's not an essay or agreed format on the years articles, however, I understand that a considered aspect for inclusion is the existance of articles of the subject in other languages, another condition that the attack meets: besides English, there are also articles in the Spanish ( es:Atentado de San Miguel del Ene de 2021) and French ( fr:Attaque de San Miguel del Ene) Wikipedias, as well as in Simple English. Lastly, I have to stress once again that the article was included in the Front Page when the attack happened. As such, the article should meet the criteria for inclusion.
Pinging also @ Dunutubble:, who first included the attack. Happy editing! -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 09:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
There is disagreement as to whether or not confirmed Covid cases passing the 150 million mark on April 29th is a milestone event. Seeking additional input here. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:42, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
I’ve proposed this on other Talk pages within other discussions, though I really should have brought it up here in the first place. I propose that for the collage on top of the page, we replace the January 6 United States Capitol attack image with one from the 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis. The latter was a far more internationally notable and significant event, which saw 250+ people killed and tens of thousands of people displaced. The former barely makes the main yearly page as a borderline inclusion - it was a purely domestic event which was a shambolic, quixotic attempt at a coup that never came close to succeeding, and we already include images of successful coups from 2021 of far greater international notability, such as the 2021 Myanmar coup d'état and the October–November 2021 Sudanese coup d'état. TheScrubby ( talk) 03:15, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Discussion started by blocked sock 33ABGirl ( talk) 04:51, 5 January 2024 (UTC) |
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At Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Years#Lead_image, a discussion on whether to depreciate collages in general in going on. Please share your thoughts.-- Marginataen ( talk) 21:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC) |
Discussion started by blocked sock 33ABGirl ( talk) 04:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC) |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
would also like to suggest changing the date format of this article to the DMY format (e.g. 6 June 2020 as opposed to June 6, 2020).The DMY format seems more international and more suitable for a "global" article like. Also DMY simply makes more sense as it goes from smallest to highest. On the project page, I've presented a similar proposal to use DMY in general for articles on "generic" years, but would also like it create consensus for it specifically on this article about 2020 and all other nine articles about the 2020s Marginataen ( talk) 19:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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