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S. Hemisphere
2016-17: S. Hemisphere - SW. Indian - Australian - S. Pacific 2017: Atlantic - W. Pacific - Central and East. Pacific - N. Indian - S. Hemisphere |
Pre season, November, December, January, February, March, April // Tracking data |
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ID | Date (ACST) | TC Name | TCWC | Original Basin | Source |
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06U | 2016-12-18 | - | D/P | Arafura Sea | Database |
07U | 2016-12-19 | Yvette | P | Indian Ocean | Database |
09U | 2017-01-03 | - | P | Indian Ocean | TWO |
10U | 2017-01-07 | - | D/P | GoC | TWO |
14U | 2017-01-23 | - | D/P | WA | TCR |
15U | 2017-01-23 | - | P | Indian Ocean | TWO |
19U | 2017-02-23 | Alfred | D/B | GoC | Database |
20U | 2017-03-02 | Blanche | D | Arafura Sea | TWO |
22U | 2017-03-22 | - | P | Indian Ocean | TCR |
23U | 2017-03-23 | Caleb | P | Indian Ocean | Tech Bull |
24U | 2017-03-24 | Debbie | B | Coral Sea | Database |
26U | 2017-04-05 | Ernie | P | Indian Ocean | Database |
27U | 2017-04-10 | - | D | Arafura Sea | Database |
28U | 2017-04-11 | *Cook | B | SPac | |
29U | 2017-04-21 | Frances | D | Gulf of Papua | Database |
30U | 2017-04-29 | Greg | P | Indian Ocean | Tech Bull |
Just saying that last season I started to speculate how the BoM designates lows and why sometimes they skip designations. So I've asked Keith to watch BoM's bulletins from the 3 TCWCs (P, D, B) and place in if they have mentioned in a "TL" or "weak TL". So as of now, we counted 7 of them since 23/9 and finally, today, BoM has now started issuing advisories, therefore, its designation will be out soon for this one. If for some reason this TL was "01U", then will we change the start date from 23/9 to 19/12? Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:57, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
I believe the intensity category thresholds listed on the Seasonal Summary timeline are incorrect. I have located the Australian Bureau of Meteorology's official wind strength thresholds for their classification of cyclones on their Frequently Asked Questions page. According to these figures, most of the wind speeds listed on the Seasonal Summary timeline are incorrect (slightly off). This includes two numbers which are more than 20 km/h incorrect. The wind strengths can be found in FAQ #10 of the 'Definitions' section of the Frequently Asked Questions page which I linked earlier in this paragraph. I have listed the strengths below as well (I performed my own conversions to the imperial measurement system, stated in brackets):
I will adjust the figures listed on the Seasonal Summary timeline at the same time as I update the statistics regarding Tropical Cyclone Frances according to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology's information (due at about 5:00 pm ACST). ChocolateTrain ( talk) 06:06, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
I have information that, I believe, proves the first noted location of the precursor low to Severe Tropical Cyclone Frances by the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (where this article's information is primarily sourced) was in the Gulf of Papua at 12:00 UTC on the 20th of April, and not the 21st of April as is noted in this article. The Australian Bureau of Meteorology operates a service called 'MetEye', and when there is a significant tropical system active in the region, its entire track (beginning at the time it became a significant system) is plotted on this service, and a 120-hour forecast track is issued. The first written mention of the system may not have occurred until the 21st of April in the Northern Region Tropical Cyclone Outlook, but the Australian Bureau of Meteorology has clearly assessed more recently that the system was of significance on the 20th of April, and consequently displayed that date as the first track location on MetEye.
I noticed this a few days ago, and promptly changed the formation date to the 20th of April so as to align our article with the most correct and up-to-date information available. However, my edit was soon reverted. I strongly believe that the formation date of Severe Tropical Cyclone Frances should be changed to the 20th of April (as it is the correct date), and for that reason I will carry out this task shortly. If anyone disagrees, I would be very happy to further entertain discussion on this topic. However, in my view, I have presented enough information to warrant the changing of this date. ChocolateTrain ( talk) 08:19, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
In JTWC's tropical cyclone formation alert, they stated the winds as between 25 and 30 knots. It may not be in a cyclone warning specifically, but it is still an official advisory regarding the system. They are also tracking it, as they have listed coordinates. Therefore, I believe it is correct to input 1-minute sustained wind speeds of either 45 or 55 km/h. As 1-minute sustained winds are higher than 10-minute sustained, 55 km/h would be the better option (also considering those speeds were a few hours ago). ChocolateTrain ( talk) 07:25, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
What does the height (or the x axis) in the graphic correspond to? - Shiftchange ( talk) 03:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC) @ Shiftchange: It doesnt correspond to anything as far as i know. Jason Rees ( talk) 11:40, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
No effects on land, nothing special for its rapid intensification B dash ( talk) 12:01, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
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Other basin talkpages | 2016:
Atlantic -
W. Pacific -
Central and East Pacific -
N. Indian -
S. Hemisphere
2016-17: S. Hemisphere - SW. Indian - Australian - S. Pacific 2017: Atlantic - W. Pacific - Central and East. Pacific - N. Indian - S. Hemisphere |
Pre season, November, December, January, February, March, April // Tracking data |
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Reporting errors |
ID | Date (ACST) | TC Name | TCWC | Original Basin | Source |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
06U | 2016-12-18 | - | D/P | Arafura Sea | Database |
07U | 2016-12-19 | Yvette | P | Indian Ocean | Database |
09U | 2017-01-03 | - | P | Indian Ocean | TWO |
10U | 2017-01-07 | - | D/P | GoC | TWO |
14U | 2017-01-23 | - | D/P | WA | TCR |
15U | 2017-01-23 | - | P | Indian Ocean | TWO |
19U | 2017-02-23 | Alfred | D/B | GoC | Database |
20U | 2017-03-02 | Blanche | D | Arafura Sea | TWO |
22U | 2017-03-22 | - | P | Indian Ocean | TCR |
23U | 2017-03-23 | Caleb | P | Indian Ocean | Tech Bull |
24U | 2017-03-24 | Debbie | B | Coral Sea | Database |
26U | 2017-04-05 | Ernie | P | Indian Ocean | Database |
27U | 2017-04-10 | - | D | Arafura Sea | Database |
28U | 2017-04-11 | *Cook | B | SPac | |
29U | 2017-04-21 | Frances | D | Gulf of Papua | Database |
30U | 2017-04-29 | Greg | P | Indian Ocean | Tech Bull |
Just saying that last season I started to speculate how the BoM designates lows and why sometimes they skip designations. So I've asked Keith to watch BoM's bulletins from the 3 TCWCs (P, D, B) and place in if they have mentioned in a "TL" or "weak TL". So as of now, we counted 7 of them since 23/9 and finally, today, BoM has now started issuing advisories, therefore, its designation will be out soon for this one. If for some reason this TL was "01U", then will we change the start date from 23/9 to 19/12? Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:57, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
I believe the intensity category thresholds listed on the Seasonal Summary timeline are incorrect. I have located the Australian Bureau of Meteorology's official wind strength thresholds for their classification of cyclones on their Frequently Asked Questions page. According to these figures, most of the wind speeds listed on the Seasonal Summary timeline are incorrect (slightly off). This includes two numbers which are more than 20 km/h incorrect. The wind strengths can be found in FAQ #10 of the 'Definitions' section of the Frequently Asked Questions page which I linked earlier in this paragraph. I have listed the strengths below as well (I performed my own conversions to the imperial measurement system, stated in brackets):
I will adjust the figures listed on the Seasonal Summary timeline at the same time as I update the statistics regarding Tropical Cyclone Frances according to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology's information (due at about 5:00 pm ACST). ChocolateTrain ( talk) 06:06, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
I have information that, I believe, proves the first noted location of the precursor low to Severe Tropical Cyclone Frances by the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (where this article's information is primarily sourced) was in the Gulf of Papua at 12:00 UTC on the 20th of April, and not the 21st of April as is noted in this article. The Australian Bureau of Meteorology operates a service called 'MetEye', and when there is a significant tropical system active in the region, its entire track (beginning at the time it became a significant system) is plotted on this service, and a 120-hour forecast track is issued. The first written mention of the system may not have occurred until the 21st of April in the Northern Region Tropical Cyclone Outlook, but the Australian Bureau of Meteorology has clearly assessed more recently that the system was of significance on the 20th of April, and consequently displayed that date as the first track location on MetEye.
I noticed this a few days ago, and promptly changed the formation date to the 20th of April so as to align our article with the most correct and up-to-date information available. However, my edit was soon reverted. I strongly believe that the formation date of Severe Tropical Cyclone Frances should be changed to the 20th of April (as it is the correct date), and for that reason I will carry out this task shortly. If anyone disagrees, I would be very happy to further entertain discussion on this topic. However, in my view, I have presented enough information to warrant the changing of this date. ChocolateTrain ( talk) 08:19, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
In JTWC's tropical cyclone formation alert, they stated the winds as between 25 and 30 knots. It may not be in a cyclone warning specifically, but it is still an official advisory regarding the system. They are also tracking it, as they have listed coordinates. Therefore, I believe it is correct to input 1-minute sustained wind speeds of either 45 or 55 km/h. As 1-minute sustained winds are higher than 10-minute sustained, 55 km/h would be the better option (also considering those speeds were a few hours ago). ChocolateTrain ( talk) 07:25, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
What does the height (or the x axis) in the graphic correspond to? - Shiftchange ( talk) 03:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC) @ Shiftchange: It doesnt correspond to anything as far as i know. Jason Rees ( talk) 11:40, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
No effects on land, nothing special for its rapid intensification B dash ( talk) 12:01, 14 March 2018 (UTC)