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Shouldn't the title indicate the location of the outbreak? See links ot recent outbreaks on Dengue fever outbreaks and links under See Also on Outbreak. juanTamad ( talk) 00:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I propose moving most of the history portion of Zika virus to this page. Events of the ongoing outbreak in Brazil, including the microcephaly, should be here rather than there. See the pages on Ebola: Ebola virus, Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa, and Ebola virus disease and other outbreak pages. juanTamad ( talk) 03:13, 22 January 2016 (UTC) I'm working on a revision here. I'm suggesting a title change to Zika virus outbreak in the Americas" since it has spread beyond Brazil. juanTamad ( talk) 05:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
The big news since May 2015 is the pandemic spread of this disease into the Western hemisphere. Isolated outbreaks on Cape Verde and Samoa are incidental. I don't think that negates calling it a spread into the Americas. Unaware of the dash MOS. juanTamad ( talk) 07:31, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
The same number (2782+) is being used as the number of cases of Microcephaly and the number of cases of the Zika virus, both for Brazil.
Which is it?
Here's a nice presentation on Zika from the CDC; it's a link from " |Zika Virus — What Clinicians Need to Know". About 15 slides down there's a nice map, source Pan American Health Organization - which is WHO/PAHO copyrighted. Might be worth getting permission. Shows the growth in microcephaly cases. juanTamad ( talk) 19:25, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Like to microcephaly is not a symptom. It belongs under epidemiology, and symptoms belong on the Zika fever page. juanTamad ( talk) 02:11, 28 January 2016 (UTC) Support. If there's consensus, I suggest integrating 'Symptoms' into the disease page (Zika fever), deleting here. That's the way all the outbreak pages are that I've seen, makes sense. juanTamad ( talk) 02:14, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Not sure this is best way to express this, not that it isn't widespread and most widespread in history, but there's only one other notable outbreak I think, Yap, and smaller ones in the Pacific, and it appeared in Cape Verde islands. Ebola west Africa uses the expression, but there were many smaller Ebola outbreaks, starting with the first recognized, in the 1970s, I think it was. juanTamad ( talk) 05:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
The WAPO mentioned a test in the Piracicaba region, while Oxitec only mentions Juazeiro region. I searched the Oxitec website, but it has nothing about the P region. I suggest to use the region per the comapny, and the related study publication http://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0003864 prokaryotes ( talk) 17:47, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I can't seem to find "stribes" (or "stripes" or "white") anywhere in the ref given for this sentence: "Both have white stribes and marks and can spread more diseases." Zeniff ( talk) 17:48, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
There is one recent case in Peru, check the next link with the news: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-zika-peru-idUSKCN0V71XA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlos15insidexxx ( talk • contribs) 18:18, February 1, 2016 (UTC)
I removed the material added in this edit because I don't see a direct relevance proved to Zika. It would be necessary to show this is actually being used as a response to Zika. I feel like it singles out one anti-mosquito tech over others for no obvious reason. It is sourced to some very obscure paywalled sources, and for example the first journal ref is about a test for olfaction in the lab that isn't obviously relevant to control in the field. And oh, yes... I looked up the "About us" on the company (ISCA Technologies) and saw they were in Riverside, California. Now if you had to guess where in the world User:108.92.189.60 geolocates to, or what the two edits from that IP are about? Yeah, you guessed right. Wnt ( talk) 18:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Fellow editors, please use only sources that meet WP:MEDRS. Primary source material is wholly inappropriate to an article such as this that is already rife with speculation. Speciate ( talk) 15:13, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
This outbreak was overlooked at the time. It was actually bigger than the Yap outbreak. I've started a draft in my user space with a draft lede, if anyone cares to help develop it before moving it to mainspace. /info/en/?search=User:Jtamad/2013-2014_Zika_fever_outbreak_French_Polynesia juanTamad ( talk) 07:11, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
The beginning template showing the number of cases and the countries affected by Zika just doesn't seem right. I propose it be organized like Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa, where it is in cases/deaths descending order, as opposed to alphabetical. This would better show where the outbreak is taking place and how badly those countries are affected. Mr. Spink talk★ contribs 16:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I agree with you. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 16:03, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
The Tata Zica is having its name changed as a response to the current outbreak, but is this important enough to warrant mention on this article? Alcherin ( talk) 22:53, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Now that the title has been changed, thank you, the question that arises is which countries to include?: Autochthonous infections only or include travel-related? The table must specify it. Autochthonous cases are reported in 36 countries [2]. But there has 'NOT been ongoing transmission in the countries with travel-related cases (Like USA or European countries). So, if a country has no ongoing transmission, then it does NOT have an outbreak so it does not belong in this article. Cheers, BatteryIncluded ( talk) 23:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
We should create a separate table for countries with travel-related cases. Do not add the UK and the US to the original table. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 09:01, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Zika virus outbreak (2015–present). There have been no objections since the move on 6 February, however, this close should not prejudice a possible future move discussion, as there was some support for a title with the year first and without the word "present".( non-admin closure) Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 11:27, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Zika virus outbreak in Brazil (2015 - present) →
Zika virus outbreak (2015 - present) – This outbreak is occurring in several countries.
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Support 2015 Brazil Zika virus outbreak for now. In epidemiology, the location where the outbreak began is used along with the year the outbreak began. As other countries are affected, separate articles can be created but the titles should accurately reflect whether or not Zika is indigenous to that country or whether these are imported cases by simply using the term "cases" instead of "outbreak."
Oppose - The Zika virus in not a world wide out-break at this time, the word "present" shouldn't be included in the title, and the year should be placed before the title. Adog104 Talk to me 21:11, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Support Cases have been reported in Tonga. The title should be changed to maybe: "Zika Virus Outbreak 2015-present" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk • contribs) 16:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Zika virus outbreak (2015–present). This is more of a procedural close, as the article was moved on 6 February, and there have been no objections on this page since then. Again, this close does not prejudice a future move discussion with the year first, or without the word "present".( non-admin closure) Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 11:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Zika virus outbreak in the Americas (2015–present) →
2015 Zika virus outbreak in the Americas – Per
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events)#Health incidents and outbreaks as its more of an appropriate title for the event instead of placing the year behind the title.
Adog104
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There has also been a reported Zika case in the US Virgin Islands. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 16:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
A case in the Maldives too. http://www.who.int/csr/don/8-february-2016-zika-maldives/en/ Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 16:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
A draft has been started on the outbreaks in the Pacific Ocean islands that preceded the outbreak in the Americas here: 2013-2014 Zika fever outbreaks in Oceania. Please do not remove this notice without explanation. 49.49.136.212 ( talk) 12:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I have just started Zika virus outbreak timeline à la the 2009 flu pandemic timeline. There is a lot of information to parse, so I've kept it simple and began with a single entry: the 2007 Yap Islands Zika virus outbreak. We can readily go back to discovery of the virus itself in 1947, and forwards to the current PHEIC. kencf0618 ( talk) 00:47, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Is there a reason the map File:CDC map of Zika virus distribution in January 2016.jpg is included twice? Seems redundant to me, are there other images that can provide unique information? --Animalparty! ( talk) 19:25, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Reported in 20 states, when does the MAP need changing? Is there a criteria? -- AstroU ( talk) 03:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Florida 'Emergency!' Headline-1: Florida governor declares Zika emergency
QUOTE: "Gov. Rick Scott declared a health emergency in four counties Wednesday after at least nine cases of the mosquito-borne Zika illness were detected in Florida.
Health officials believe all of the cases are from people who contracted the disease while traveling to affected countries." -- AstroU ( talk) 12:41, 4 February 2016 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.
Headline-2: First case of Zika identified in Alabama as it emerges virus has now spread to 20 U.S. states and DC
QUOTE: "The Zika virus is now believed to have spread to 20 states, as well as Washington, DC, with 59 reported cases in the United States. All of the cases involved people who were infected abroad before returning to America" -- AstroU ( talk) 03:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC) -- PS: There is a great graphic/map of USA.
It has been a while since I have seriously edited Wikipedia. I seem to recall that contested statements in Wikipedia articles may be challenged by any editor, perhaps by removing the statement, until a solid, reliable, typically peer-reviewed, secondary source (or sources) are provided. I also seem to recall that primary sources that are contested must be removed forthwith. Have these policies been changed in some way in the last few years? Speciate ( talk) 15:47, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Common-sense should rule; but you are correct that sources are paramount. -- AstroU ( talk) 03:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with epidemic terminology, but shouldn't this be "Confirmed cases" instead, since there is only one outbreak, not over a million? 9 3 17:01, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
There's never human-to-human transmission for most arboviral diseases (except apparently for sexual transmission with Zika). Arboviral diseases involve a mosquito or other arthropod. If an infected traveler returns to home country and is bitten by a mosquito and the mosquito successfully passes it to another human and then to more mosquitoes, then the virus has become indigenous, and those transmissions are autochthonous. For those interested there are MOOCs on epidemics. juanTamad ( talk) 03:41, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Is there a reason it's called "Zika virus disease" instead of "Zika fever" in the first sentence? The latter seems more straightforward. — Gorthian ( talk) 18:00, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
I was going to add American Samoa to the list of countries in the infobox, but they officially have only "suspected" cases, partly because they don't have the funds to pay their outstanding bill at the test facility. But American Samoa is listed by the ECDC and the CDC as having ongoing local outbreaks. Should we wait till there are confirmed cases to add AS to the list of countries? — Gorthian ( talk) 17:37, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Add it Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 08:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
I went to the hyperlink for the United States footnote in the "confirmed cases" segment. Reading the news article, it stated that the patients contracted the virus outside of the United States. Is there some way to create a distinction between country of contraction/infection versus country of permanent residence? I think it's important…just to keep the scope of the epidemic in accurate geographic perspective. (Not everyone will look at the hyperlinks for specific info. Also, I think people have enough to worry about these days - without jumping to inaccurate conclusions.) Thanks to everyone who is working so hard on this page. Torfrid ( talk) 02:04, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your responses, and attention to this. Torfrid ( talk) 18:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Although this article's blurb has now fallen out of "In The News" section on the Main Page, it has been proposed as an ongoing news item. Interested parties are encouraged to weigh in on the discussion. Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 22:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I need some help with rumors in Pyriproxyfen#Hypothesized connection to microcephaly epidemic in Brazil. I'd like to combat irresponsible misinformation, which I believe is best done reporting both the rumor and the retraction. Thanks for your input. fgnievinski ( talk) 00:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Also being discussed at Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Pyriproxyfen. fgnievinski ( talk) 00:55, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Here's quick & dirty draft just to get the ball rolling:
If we don't summarize this story, we'll keep seeing attempts at adding the conspiracy theory to the article. fgnievinski ( talk) 20:38, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Gorthian: included it [6]. fgnievinski ( talk) 21:42, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Since Mexico is in North America, the first paragraph should mention South America, Central America, the Caribbean and Mexico. I don't know why so many articles in English ignore the fact that Mexico is in North America. Jgsodre ( talk) 21:54, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/zika-first-case-ontario-confirmed-1.3456196 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.71.64.160 ( talk) 02:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
We should create a table for travelers returning with the virus. Who thinks this is a good idea? Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 17:58, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Hmm... may be a lot of work though yes but, we should give it a go. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 20:55, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
I am making an edit to remove "rare" from the description of sexual transmission. The CDC and NYT sources essentially say that transmission is mainly/predominantly via mosquito, and that sexual transmission is possible. There is no characterization of the frequency. Given how rapidly the understanding of sexual transmission is developing and the announcment that CDC is tracking 14 suspected sexual transmission cases in the U.S., I don't see support for "rare" in either the original or current sources. Chris vLS ( talk) 22:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
I've been trying to keep the table of countries and cases updated, and it can be a real problem.
To ease both editing and updates, I propose:
I've worked up a version of this solution in my sandbox. See what you think. — Gorthian ( talk) 22:19, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Regarding Brazil, the note in the source by PAHO says Note: The suspected cases in Brazil are unofficial (media monitoring). Brazil Ministry of Health reported minimum 497,523 and 1,482,701 as maximum estimated cases. Report Available at:
http://portalsaude.saude.gov.br/images/pdf/2016/janeiro/22/microcefalia-protocolo-de-vigilancia-e-resposta-v1-3-22jan2016.pdf
. This figures reflect the actual situation.――
Phoenix7777 (
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No one seemed to object to my reformulation of the table, so I went ahead and put the new version in. It's still missing a ref for Vanuatu, though. —
Gorthian (
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05:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
The current map in the infobox showing disease status by country looks not much like this one https://pandemic.internationalsos.com/zika/map ? 152.91.10.22 ( talk) 05:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
We need to include all countries that have experienced cases since the outbreak started. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 17:22, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
I feel it may be necessary to swap to reducing the size of the flags or use {{ Template:noflag}} with the addition of the Deaths column, as the country names create unnecessary line breaks that extend the table longer than it needs to be. Alcherin ( talk) 19:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
I reverted an edit by Rhetoricalnoodle (who added Saint Vincent and the Grenadines) because I didn't see a source added for it. On further investigation, I found that the PAHO WHO data now includes that country, so Rhetoricalnoodle was right to add it. (Sorry about the hasty revert!) But if the source updates their data, the table has to be updated also: specifically the "as of" date in the Country column header, as well as the published date in the citation. I'll go put that country back in now and do the updates too.— Gorthian ( talk) 01:25, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
The only reason there are totals in the "Americas" table is because the source provides them. I think inserting totals for the other tables is misleading, giving the impression that these are ALL the cases there are, which we know isn't true. And, unless we can source the totals, adding them up ourselves is basically original research. Unless someone comes up with a compelling reason to keep them, I'll be removing totals from the other tables.— Gorthian ( talk) 17:31, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
That seems fair enough. I think we should divide the imported cases table into Asia, North Europe, etc. just like the second table. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 20:19, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
The New York Times "How a Medical Mystery in Brazil Led Doctors to Zika" piece [7] quotes physicians who were trying to find the source of a Dengue-like illness in August 2014 ("It was a few weeks after the 2014 World Cup"). In the lede, we could be more precise that it was confirmed as Zika in April (May?) 2015. But it is also in the title of the article. Thoughts? Chris vLS ( talk) 02:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I am setting up a mailing list for ongoing research around Zika virus, Zika fever and Zika virus outbreak (2015–present). So if any questions come up here that need expert input, please ping me or post there directly. -- Daniel Mietchen ( talk) 11:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the title indicate the location of the outbreak? See links ot recent outbreaks on Dengue fever outbreaks and links under See Also on Outbreak. juanTamad ( talk) 00:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I propose moving most of the history portion of Zika virus to this page. Events of the ongoing outbreak in Brazil, including the microcephaly, should be here rather than there. See the pages on Ebola: Ebola virus, Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa, and Ebola virus disease and other outbreak pages. juanTamad ( talk) 03:13, 22 January 2016 (UTC) I'm working on a revision here. I'm suggesting a title change to Zika virus outbreak in the Americas" since it has spread beyond Brazil. juanTamad ( talk) 05:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
The big news since May 2015 is the pandemic spread of this disease into the Western hemisphere. Isolated outbreaks on Cape Verde and Samoa are incidental. I don't think that negates calling it a spread into the Americas. Unaware of the dash MOS. juanTamad ( talk) 07:31, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
The same number (2782+) is being used as the number of cases of Microcephaly and the number of cases of the Zika virus, both for Brazil.
Which is it?
Here's a nice presentation on Zika from the CDC; it's a link from " |Zika Virus — What Clinicians Need to Know". About 15 slides down there's a nice map, source Pan American Health Organization - which is WHO/PAHO copyrighted. Might be worth getting permission. Shows the growth in microcephaly cases. juanTamad ( talk) 19:25, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Like to microcephaly is not a symptom. It belongs under epidemiology, and symptoms belong on the Zika fever page. juanTamad ( talk) 02:11, 28 January 2016 (UTC) Support. If there's consensus, I suggest integrating 'Symptoms' into the disease page (Zika fever), deleting here. That's the way all the outbreak pages are that I've seen, makes sense. juanTamad ( talk) 02:14, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Not sure this is best way to express this, not that it isn't widespread and most widespread in history, but there's only one other notable outbreak I think, Yap, and smaller ones in the Pacific, and it appeared in Cape Verde islands. Ebola west Africa uses the expression, but there were many smaller Ebola outbreaks, starting with the first recognized, in the 1970s, I think it was. juanTamad ( talk) 05:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
The WAPO mentioned a test in the Piracicaba region, while Oxitec only mentions Juazeiro region. I searched the Oxitec website, but it has nothing about the P region. I suggest to use the region per the comapny, and the related study publication http://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0003864 prokaryotes ( talk) 17:47, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I can't seem to find "stribes" (or "stripes" or "white") anywhere in the ref given for this sentence: "Both have white stribes and marks and can spread more diseases." Zeniff ( talk) 17:48, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
There is one recent case in Peru, check the next link with the news: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-zika-peru-idUSKCN0V71XA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlos15insidexxx ( talk • contribs) 18:18, February 1, 2016 (UTC)
I removed the material added in this edit because I don't see a direct relevance proved to Zika. It would be necessary to show this is actually being used as a response to Zika. I feel like it singles out one anti-mosquito tech over others for no obvious reason. It is sourced to some very obscure paywalled sources, and for example the first journal ref is about a test for olfaction in the lab that isn't obviously relevant to control in the field. And oh, yes... I looked up the "About us" on the company (ISCA Technologies) and saw they were in Riverside, California. Now if you had to guess where in the world User:108.92.189.60 geolocates to, or what the two edits from that IP are about? Yeah, you guessed right. Wnt ( talk) 18:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Fellow editors, please use only sources that meet WP:MEDRS. Primary source material is wholly inappropriate to an article such as this that is already rife with speculation. Speciate ( talk) 15:13, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
This outbreak was overlooked at the time. It was actually bigger than the Yap outbreak. I've started a draft in my user space with a draft lede, if anyone cares to help develop it before moving it to mainspace. /info/en/?search=User:Jtamad/2013-2014_Zika_fever_outbreak_French_Polynesia juanTamad ( talk) 07:11, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
The beginning template showing the number of cases and the countries affected by Zika just doesn't seem right. I propose it be organized like Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa, where it is in cases/deaths descending order, as opposed to alphabetical. This would better show where the outbreak is taking place and how badly those countries are affected. Mr. Spink talk★ contribs 16:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I agree with you. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 16:03, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
The Tata Zica is having its name changed as a response to the current outbreak, but is this important enough to warrant mention on this article? Alcherin ( talk) 22:53, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Now that the title has been changed, thank you, the question that arises is which countries to include?: Autochthonous infections only or include travel-related? The table must specify it. Autochthonous cases are reported in 36 countries [2]. But there has 'NOT been ongoing transmission in the countries with travel-related cases (Like USA or European countries). So, if a country has no ongoing transmission, then it does NOT have an outbreak so it does not belong in this article. Cheers, BatteryIncluded ( talk) 23:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
We should create a separate table for countries with travel-related cases. Do not add the UK and the US to the original table. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 09:01, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Zika virus outbreak (2015–present). There have been no objections since the move on 6 February, however, this close should not prejudice a possible future move discussion, as there was some support for a title with the year first and without the word "present".( non-admin closure) Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 11:27, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Zika virus outbreak in Brazil (2015 - present) →
Zika virus outbreak (2015 - present) – This outbreak is occurring in several countries.
Rubbish computer (
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*Support as it's a worldwide outbreak .... –
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Support 2015 Brazil Zika virus outbreak for now. In epidemiology, the location where the outbreak began is used along with the year the outbreak began. As other countries are affected, separate articles can be created but the titles should accurately reflect whether or not Zika is indigenous to that country or whether these are imported cases by simply using the term "cases" instead of "outbreak."
Oppose - The Zika virus in not a world wide out-break at this time, the word "present" shouldn't be included in the title, and the year should be placed before the title. Adog104 Talk to me 21:11, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Support Cases have been reported in Tonga. The title should be changed to maybe: "Zika Virus Outbreak 2015-present" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk • contribs) 16:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Zika virus outbreak (2015–present). This is more of a procedural close, as the article was moved on 6 February, and there have been no objections on this page since then. Again, this close does not prejudice a future move discussion with the year first, or without the word "present".( non-admin closure) Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 11:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Zika virus outbreak in the Americas (2015–present) →
2015 Zika virus outbreak in the Americas – Per
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events)#Health incidents and outbreaks as its more of an appropriate title for the event instead of placing the year behind the title.
Adog104
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There has also been a reported Zika case in the US Virgin Islands. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 16:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
A case in the Maldives too. http://www.who.int/csr/don/8-february-2016-zika-maldives/en/ Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 16:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
A draft has been started on the outbreaks in the Pacific Ocean islands that preceded the outbreak in the Americas here: 2013-2014 Zika fever outbreaks in Oceania. Please do not remove this notice without explanation. 49.49.136.212 ( talk) 12:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I have just started Zika virus outbreak timeline à la the 2009 flu pandemic timeline. There is a lot of information to parse, so I've kept it simple and began with a single entry: the 2007 Yap Islands Zika virus outbreak. We can readily go back to discovery of the virus itself in 1947, and forwards to the current PHEIC. kencf0618 ( talk) 00:47, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Is there a reason the map File:CDC map of Zika virus distribution in January 2016.jpg is included twice? Seems redundant to me, are there other images that can provide unique information? --Animalparty! ( talk) 19:25, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Reported in 20 states, when does the MAP need changing? Is there a criteria? -- AstroU ( talk) 03:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Florida 'Emergency!' Headline-1: Florida governor declares Zika emergency
QUOTE: "Gov. Rick Scott declared a health emergency in four counties Wednesday after at least nine cases of the mosquito-borne Zika illness were detected in Florida.
Health officials believe all of the cases are from people who contracted the disease while traveling to affected countries." -- AstroU ( talk) 12:41, 4 February 2016 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.
Headline-2: First case of Zika identified in Alabama as it emerges virus has now spread to 20 U.S. states and DC
QUOTE: "The Zika virus is now believed to have spread to 20 states, as well as Washington, DC, with 59 reported cases in the United States. All of the cases involved people who were infected abroad before returning to America" -- AstroU ( talk) 03:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC) -- PS: There is a great graphic/map of USA.
It has been a while since I have seriously edited Wikipedia. I seem to recall that contested statements in Wikipedia articles may be challenged by any editor, perhaps by removing the statement, until a solid, reliable, typically peer-reviewed, secondary source (or sources) are provided. I also seem to recall that primary sources that are contested must be removed forthwith. Have these policies been changed in some way in the last few years? Speciate ( talk) 15:47, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Common-sense should rule; but you are correct that sources are paramount. -- AstroU ( talk) 03:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with epidemic terminology, but shouldn't this be "Confirmed cases" instead, since there is only one outbreak, not over a million? 9 3 17:01, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
There's never human-to-human transmission for most arboviral diseases (except apparently for sexual transmission with Zika). Arboviral diseases involve a mosquito or other arthropod. If an infected traveler returns to home country and is bitten by a mosquito and the mosquito successfully passes it to another human and then to more mosquitoes, then the virus has become indigenous, and those transmissions are autochthonous. For those interested there are MOOCs on epidemics. juanTamad ( talk) 03:41, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Is there a reason it's called "Zika virus disease" instead of "Zika fever" in the first sentence? The latter seems more straightforward. — Gorthian ( talk) 18:00, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
I was going to add American Samoa to the list of countries in the infobox, but they officially have only "suspected" cases, partly because they don't have the funds to pay their outstanding bill at the test facility. But American Samoa is listed by the ECDC and the CDC as having ongoing local outbreaks. Should we wait till there are confirmed cases to add AS to the list of countries? — Gorthian ( talk) 17:37, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Add it Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 08:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
I went to the hyperlink for the United States footnote in the "confirmed cases" segment. Reading the news article, it stated that the patients contracted the virus outside of the United States. Is there some way to create a distinction between country of contraction/infection versus country of permanent residence? I think it's important…just to keep the scope of the epidemic in accurate geographic perspective. (Not everyone will look at the hyperlinks for specific info. Also, I think people have enough to worry about these days - without jumping to inaccurate conclusions.) Thanks to everyone who is working so hard on this page. Torfrid ( talk) 02:04, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your responses, and attention to this. Torfrid ( talk) 18:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Although this article's blurb has now fallen out of "In The News" section on the Main Page, it has been proposed as an ongoing news item. Interested parties are encouraged to weigh in on the discussion. Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 22:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I need some help with rumors in Pyriproxyfen#Hypothesized connection to microcephaly epidemic in Brazil. I'd like to combat irresponsible misinformation, which I believe is best done reporting both the rumor and the retraction. Thanks for your input. fgnievinski ( talk) 00:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Also being discussed at Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Pyriproxyfen. fgnievinski ( talk) 00:55, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Here's quick & dirty draft just to get the ball rolling:
If we don't summarize this story, we'll keep seeing attempts at adding the conspiracy theory to the article. fgnievinski ( talk) 20:38, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Gorthian: included it [6]. fgnievinski ( talk) 21:42, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Since Mexico is in North America, the first paragraph should mention South America, Central America, the Caribbean and Mexico. I don't know why so many articles in English ignore the fact that Mexico is in North America. Jgsodre ( talk) 21:54, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/zika-first-case-ontario-confirmed-1.3456196 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.71.64.160 ( talk) 02:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
We should create a table for travelers returning with the virus. Who thinks this is a good idea? Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 17:58, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Hmm... may be a lot of work though yes but, we should give it a go. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 20:55, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
I am making an edit to remove "rare" from the description of sexual transmission. The CDC and NYT sources essentially say that transmission is mainly/predominantly via mosquito, and that sexual transmission is possible. There is no characterization of the frequency. Given how rapidly the understanding of sexual transmission is developing and the announcment that CDC is tracking 14 suspected sexual transmission cases in the U.S., I don't see support for "rare" in either the original or current sources. Chris vLS ( talk) 22:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
I've been trying to keep the table of countries and cases updated, and it can be a real problem.
To ease both editing and updates, I propose:
I've worked up a version of this solution in my sandbox. See what you think. — Gorthian ( talk) 22:19, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Regarding Brazil, the note in the source by PAHO says Note: The suspected cases in Brazil are unofficial (media monitoring). Brazil Ministry of Health reported minimum 497,523 and 1,482,701 as maximum estimated cases. Report Available at:
http://portalsaude.saude.gov.br/images/pdf/2016/janeiro/22/microcefalia-protocolo-de-vigilancia-e-resposta-v1-3-22jan2016.pdf
. This figures reflect the actual situation.――
Phoenix7777 (
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No one seemed to object to my reformulation of the table, so I went ahead and put the new version in. It's still missing a ref for Vanuatu, though. —
Gorthian (
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05:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
The current map in the infobox showing disease status by country looks not much like this one https://pandemic.internationalsos.com/zika/map ? 152.91.10.22 ( talk) 05:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
We need to include all countries that have experienced cases since the outbreak started. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 17:22, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
I feel it may be necessary to swap to reducing the size of the flags or use {{ Template:noflag}} with the addition of the Deaths column, as the country names create unnecessary line breaks that extend the table longer than it needs to be. Alcherin ( talk) 19:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
I reverted an edit by Rhetoricalnoodle (who added Saint Vincent and the Grenadines) because I didn't see a source added for it. On further investigation, I found that the PAHO WHO data now includes that country, so Rhetoricalnoodle was right to add it. (Sorry about the hasty revert!) But if the source updates their data, the table has to be updated also: specifically the "as of" date in the Country column header, as well as the published date in the citation. I'll go put that country back in now and do the updates too.— Gorthian ( talk) 01:25, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
The only reason there are totals in the "Americas" table is because the source provides them. I think inserting totals for the other tables is misleading, giving the impression that these are ALL the cases there are, which we know isn't true. And, unless we can source the totals, adding them up ourselves is basically original research. Unless someone comes up with a compelling reason to keep them, I'll be removing totals from the other tables.— Gorthian ( talk) 17:31, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
That seems fair enough. I think we should divide the imported cases table into Asia, North Europe, etc. just like the second table. Rhetoricalnoodle ( talk) 20:19, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
The New York Times "How a Medical Mystery in Brazil Led Doctors to Zika" piece [7] quotes physicians who were trying to find the source of a Dengue-like illness in August 2014 ("It was a few weeks after the 2014 World Cup"). In the lede, we could be more precise that it was confirmed as Zika in April (May?) 2015. But it is also in the title of the article. Thoughts? Chris vLS ( talk) 02:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I am setting up a mailing list for ongoing research around Zika virus, Zika fever and Zika virus outbreak (2015–present). So if any questions come up here that need expert input, please ping me or post there directly. -- Daniel Mietchen ( talk) 11:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)