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On the teams and drivers section, by putting the cars toguethers, it get's trickly to read the separative lines of each team. Shouldn't be separated properly or have the "car" column move to the right or left?
MNSZ ( talk) 02:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
He has Go Fast stickers for Rally Sweden, but I think he still brings points to M-Sport. So it's not correct atm. Pelmeen10 ( talk) 17:20, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Someone keeps editing the page to show that Thierry Neuville is driving car #8. This is a problem, because it lists him as having driven car #8 in Monte Carlo, Sweden and in Mexico. However, the rest of the article clearly states that Delecour drove car #8 in Monte Carlo, and Solowow drove it in Sweden. Theirry was #23 in Monte Carlo and #18 in Sweden. Therefore, all three need to be shown because two men cannot drive a car with the same number. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 09:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I have had to keep restoring content to the page. Neuville drove car #23 in Monte Carlo and car #18 in Sweden. We can prove this with the entry lists. So, to whoever keeps editing Neuville's entry down to a single line, please stop - what you are doing is factually incorrect. Somebody else drove car #18 in Monte Carlo. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 11:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I was checking that the Adapta World Rally Team Entry, was only for rallys 3 and 5 (Mexico and Argentina), but Mads Ostberg is listed as Manufacture Driver for all of his entrys. On other Hand, Thierry Neuville isn't listed as Manufacture on Rally 1 and 2 (witch is ok). The Question is why only consider the non-manufacture rally for some and other don't? Bye!!! MNSZ ( talk) 01:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
I think that the World Rally Championship entries table shouldn't show all of the car numbers the drivers have driven. For example, for Rally Finland Ketomaa, Prokop, Ogier and Mikkelsen are getting new numbers. Especially the Volkswagen drivers seem to get a different number to every rally.
The car numbers aren't even that important in WRC, at least for non-manufacturer crews.
I suggest we should mark to the driver's number either – or the number he has used most. What do you think?
FinnishF1Fan ( talk) 22:04, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
The problem with that is that the tables are now inconsistent. They perform the same function, but they contain different information, with no explanation for the difference. I don't think the numbers are important at all; the 2012 Intercontinental Rally Challenge season page does the same thing, and it's very effective. Yes, I know the IRC change their numbers from event to event, but it just highlights how unnecessary a numbers column is. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 22:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
We can't assume that any driver has priority over another driver, and the numbers certainly do not reflect that. The reason why Hirvonen is listed before Loeb in the table is because they are listed alphabetically. If his last name was Mirvonen, then Loeb would appear first. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 07:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Why Matthew Wilson is lined for Rally Walles under the M-Sport team? The news related to it, said clearly that the team is the M-Sport Ford World Rally Team. It should be listed as Dennis Kupiers, François Delecour, etc. Don't you think? MNSZ ( talk) 00:13, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Why Martin Koči is listed as a non-scoring academy entry, but is listed in the cup table as he has obtained points? MNSZ ( talk) 01:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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On the teams and drivers section, by putting the cars toguethers, it get's trickly to read the separative lines of each team. Shouldn't be separated properly or have the "car" column move to the right or left?
MNSZ ( talk) 02:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
He has Go Fast stickers for Rally Sweden, but I think he still brings points to M-Sport. So it's not correct atm. Pelmeen10 ( talk) 17:20, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Someone keeps editing the page to show that Thierry Neuville is driving car #8. This is a problem, because it lists him as having driven car #8 in Monte Carlo, Sweden and in Mexico. However, the rest of the article clearly states that Delecour drove car #8 in Monte Carlo, and Solowow drove it in Sweden. Theirry was #23 in Monte Carlo and #18 in Sweden. Therefore, all three need to be shown because two men cannot drive a car with the same number. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 09:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I have had to keep restoring content to the page. Neuville drove car #23 in Monte Carlo and car #18 in Sweden. We can prove this with the entry lists. So, to whoever keeps editing Neuville's entry down to a single line, please stop - what you are doing is factually incorrect. Somebody else drove car #18 in Monte Carlo. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 11:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I was checking that the Adapta World Rally Team Entry, was only for rallys 3 and 5 (Mexico and Argentina), but Mads Ostberg is listed as Manufacture Driver for all of his entrys. On other Hand, Thierry Neuville isn't listed as Manufacture on Rally 1 and 2 (witch is ok). The Question is why only consider the non-manufacture rally for some and other don't? Bye!!! MNSZ ( talk) 01:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
I think that the World Rally Championship entries table shouldn't show all of the car numbers the drivers have driven. For example, for Rally Finland Ketomaa, Prokop, Ogier and Mikkelsen are getting new numbers. Especially the Volkswagen drivers seem to get a different number to every rally.
The car numbers aren't even that important in WRC, at least for non-manufacturer crews.
I suggest we should mark to the driver's number either – or the number he has used most. What do you think?
FinnishF1Fan ( talk) 22:04, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
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The problem with that is that the tables are now inconsistent. They perform the same function, but they contain different information, with no explanation for the difference. I don't think the numbers are important at all; the 2012 Intercontinental Rally Challenge season page does the same thing, and it's very effective. Yes, I know the IRC change their numbers from event to event, but it just highlights how unnecessary a numbers column is. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 22:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
We can't assume that any driver has priority over another driver, and the numbers certainly do not reflect that. The reason why Hirvonen is listed before Loeb in the table is because they are listed alphabetically. If his last name was Mirvonen, then Loeb would appear first. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 07:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Why Matthew Wilson is lined for Rally Walles under the M-Sport team? The news related to it, said clearly that the team is the M-Sport Ford World Rally Team. It should be listed as Dennis Kupiers, François Delecour, etc. Don't you think? MNSZ ( talk) 00:13, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Why Martin Koči is listed as a non-scoring academy entry, but is listed in the cup table as he has obtained points? MNSZ ( talk) 01:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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