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As much as I personally would like to keep those videos linked, I'm not sure that we can. WP:EL says we can't link to any videos on video sharing sites unless the uploader clearly holds the copyright to the videos. Now, in the U.S., U.S. government docs are almost always considered to be in the public domain, but I don't believe that's true in Japan. Usually we err on the side of safety, and don't link to sites that may be copyright infringing just to be safe. Does anyone have any counter argument that shows that those videos are safe under WP:EL? Qwyrxian ( talk) 11:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
To Oda Mari: You'd better make tea, not edit-war please! STSC ( talk) 16:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
As Japan is one of the participants in the territorial dispute, the neutrality of the title would be questionable when the title uses the Japanese name "Senkaku". STSC ( talk) 19:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
To Oda Mari - I'm assuming good faith and not entering edit-war with you. You don't seem to understand what the POV-title template is for, and you removed it without valid reasons. STSC ( talk) 12:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
The POV-title tag is restored in line with other "Senkaku" articles. STSC ( talk) 12:20, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
This is an English site primarily for English speakers, therefore, any "See also" link to Japanese site would be unnecessary within the article. STSC ( talk) 16:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
If the sources are out there, details on the amount of damage done to the two Japanese ships as well as the Chinese trawler need to be added. I remember hearing somewhere that the damage to one of the Japanese ships was fairly extensive and was expensive to repair. Cla68 ( talk) 02:50, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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Archived by Freezepage])This edit has been re-inserted a number of times, once by IP 132.239.10.116 and twice by User SummerRat, here and here (both incorrectly marked as minor edits). The edit in effect re-states, though less clearly, the immediately preceding sentence, The Senkaku islands are administered by Japan and claimed by both the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China, which is ref'd to WP:RS and not in dispute. The edit also falls foul of overlinking. It incorrectly uses the citation template to mis-attribute the article title, replacing it instead with a 'quote' from Xinhua News. From what I have seen elsewhere, the use of Xinhua News as a neutral source is considered problematic on Wikipedia. The best case scenario is that the editor in question has made a genuine error in applying a line of text from the article as the article title. Assuming good faith to it's elastic limit, I don't see what the edit adds to the article. I have previously raised my concerns regarding accuracy of the translation here and here. I suggest the edit be removed as both unhelpful and unnecessary for the reasons outlined. RashersTierney ( talk) 13:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the word 'administered' as it appears to be the root of this dispute and does not in fact appear in the reference. I hope this settles the matter and the contested subsequent sentence and 'reference' can now also be removed. RashersTierney ( talk) 11:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
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As much as I personally would like to keep those videos linked, I'm not sure that we can. WP:EL says we can't link to any videos on video sharing sites unless the uploader clearly holds the copyright to the videos. Now, in the U.S., U.S. government docs are almost always considered to be in the public domain, but I don't believe that's true in Japan. Usually we err on the side of safety, and don't link to sites that may be copyright infringing just to be safe. Does anyone have any counter argument that shows that those videos are safe under WP:EL? Qwyrxian ( talk) 11:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
To Oda Mari: You'd better make tea, not edit-war please! STSC ( talk) 16:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
As Japan is one of the participants in the territorial dispute, the neutrality of the title would be questionable when the title uses the Japanese name "Senkaku". STSC ( talk) 19:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
To Oda Mari - I'm assuming good faith and not entering edit-war with you. You don't seem to understand what the POV-title template is for, and you removed it without valid reasons. STSC ( talk) 12:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
The POV-title tag is restored in line with other "Senkaku" articles. STSC ( talk) 12:20, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
This is an English site primarily for English speakers, therefore, any "See also" link to Japanese site would be unnecessary within the article. STSC ( talk) 16:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
If the sources are out there, details on the amount of damage done to the two Japanese ships as well as the Chinese trawler need to be added. I remember hearing somewhere that the damage to one of the Japanese ships was fairly extensive and was expensive to repair. Cla68 ( talk) 02:50, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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Archived by Freezepage])This edit has been re-inserted a number of times, once by IP 132.239.10.116 and twice by User SummerRat, here and here (both incorrectly marked as minor edits). The edit in effect re-states, though less clearly, the immediately preceding sentence, The Senkaku islands are administered by Japan and claimed by both the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China, which is ref'd to WP:RS and not in dispute. The edit also falls foul of overlinking. It incorrectly uses the citation template to mis-attribute the article title, replacing it instead with a 'quote' from Xinhua News. From what I have seen elsewhere, the use of Xinhua News as a neutral source is considered problematic on Wikipedia. The best case scenario is that the editor in question has made a genuine error in applying a line of text from the article as the article title. Assuming good faith to it's elastic limit, I don't see what the edit adds to the article. I have previously raised my concerns regarding accuracy of the translation here and here. I suggest the edit be removed as both unhelpful and unnecessary for the reasons outlined. RashersTierney ( talk) 13:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the word 'administered' as it appears to be the root of this dispute and does not in fact appear in the reference. I hope this settles the matter and the contested subsequent sentence and 'reference' can now also be removed. RashersTierney ( talk) 11:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
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