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I think if there is 2002-2008 Six Nations pages,then there should be a 2009 one as well.Someone said Argentina might join but they are way too far away from Europe.Somebody WILL create this article sometime so why not now?-- 86.41.85.203 ( talk) 11:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Oppose merge: I say leave it thereit will be needed soon and if someone wanted to you could easily add some stub-like information: who is playing whom where, are Ireland still at Croke Park? etc. And the fixtures are released soon anyway. PeemJim86 ( talk) 22:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I didn't know what sport this was for until I saw the words "Rugby Union", maybe include what SPORT they are playing in the first paragraph? (HalesInfamous)
Have you got a source to back the assertion that Ireland's home games will be at Croker? The article Croke Park states that the GAA had made clear that they would not host soccer and rugby beyond 2008. Both articles can't be right. Kevin McE ( talk) 15:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Can someone explain, (preferably with some references), why the team manager of England is put down as head coach? Is it an official position of the English rugby union? Or are we so desperate to fill the table for a championship 7 months away that we cannot wait for an official announcement?
If we are going to make such assumptions why not put the name of the captains as well.
FFMG (
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16:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
The Stade de France is in Saint-Denis. Now, Saint-Denis may not be a city, which is what the column title says, but the Stade de France's official website ( http://www.stadefrance.com) clearly names the location of the stadium as Saint-Denis. The 2007 Rugby World Cup also named Saint-Denis as a quite distinct location from Paris ( [3]), as did the 1998 FIFA World Cup ( [4]). So like I said, Saint-Denis may not be a city, but similar to the relationship between Salford and Manchester, it is a large commune within the boundary of the nearby city. – Pee Jay 17:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Discussions regarding this have also been started here and here. WP:FORUMSHOP anyone? Let's keep all discussions in one place please? Nouse4aname ( talk) 15:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
"Twickenham is part of a borough of London, it has a London Postcode and the mayor of London has jurisdiction over Twickenham. Whereas Saint-Denis is an independent city, with its own postcode and its own mayor. It's not even in the same département as Paris. Everything outside of the boulevard périphérique (bar a couple of parks) is considered to be another administrative division different from Paris (which explain why Paris proper is so small in size compared to London). While Twickenham is a borough of London (and Brooklyn a borough of NY) Saint-Denis is definitely NOT a borough of Paris."
– Pee Jay 12:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I know this is more content than article, but can anyone explain what "c" stands for as in "Tries: Harinordoquy 15' c"? YeshuaDavid ( talk) 21:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there some official source for attendance figures? According to the match report for the France-Scotland game on the RBS 6 Nations official site, and several newspapers, the attendance at Stade de France was 80,000, which is the stadium's capacity. But the BBC (and several other newspapers) give the attendance as 65,000, which implies that nearly 20 percent of the seats were empty. If there isn't an official source, and unofficial sources differ so much, is the information worth including?-- Jimmy Pitt ( talk) 23:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey there, I've edited the article using the template, so that Ireland is shown the same way as other nations (with the flag and the links to both the country and the national team), but was reverted. Is there a reason for that? I did look through the discussion page before doing it, but found no reason for Ireland standing out like that. Zhuravskij ( talk) 01:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the noflag is a terrible idea. Ireland uses banners when competing in Rugby Union games internationally and at home. Having no flag by Ireland's name make it look like there's nothing that represents Ireland when they compete. But, there is. When competing at Home (ie. Croke Park or Landsdowne) the anthems that are sung are Amhrán na bhFiann and Ireland's Call. Amhrán na bhFiann is the Republic of Ireland's National Anthem and Ireland's Call is the National Anthem for Island of Ireland in many international sports events including Rugby Union, Hockey, Cricket, and Rugby League. When Ireland is competing away from home. The only Anthem that's sung is Ireland's Call. This Anthem was commissioned by the Irish Rugby Football Union in 1995. This has been done in conjunction with the flying of both the Irish Republican flag and the Ulster flag. Unfortunately, during away games the host countries usually allow only one banner per team and so in this case the Tri Colour flag is used. But, when more than one banner can be used, both the Tri Colour flag and the Ulster flags are flown. So, because of this, I think using both the Tri Colour flag and the Ulster flag by Ireland's name is both appropriate and correct. Because of this, I'm changing it to use both those flags. Brendan OhUiginn ( talk) 00:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Could someone please fix the flag to the Rugby one, as the Republic's flag is neither appropiate or correct. Use the Shamrock one as on other Irish rugby pages or the Cross of St. Pat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.28.43 ( talk) 23:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
I have found the official one
Ireland Image:IRFU_Flag_of_Ireland.svg
can someone please put this up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.28.43 ( talk) 23:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Seems to have been started here Archive 1 - Flag of Ireland then started again here Archive 4 - IRB vs. IRFU all-Ireland flags before restarting here Wider opinion needed regarding banner and flag use, here IRFU Flag and here Removing Ireland flags
Although all other six nation teams are represented by their national flag and it seems the irish team does in fact sometimes use this flag at tests as well. However there seems to exist reasons for some wikipedia editors to believe this may not be appropriate. Sadly I am largely ignorant of the more practical aspects of Irish history as they relate to flags and their national teams - however
Irish Rugby Football Union#History gives a good consise explanation. Anyway on first appearance it is strange not to see the national flag icon but I get it now. Nevertheless the
2009 six nations article employed all three alternatives on one page for the same team - no flag, irish flag and IRFU flag!!! I guess this page suggests that as yet no clear and generally accepted consensus has been reached. Just as a tidying up exercise I put the
Ireland in rather than blank or
image:IRFU Flag of Ireland.svg, and only then discovered the above long-running debate and issues.
ROxBo
seems to be a awful lot of whining about the Irish flag....
Jcforge (
talk)
17:59, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Well if the powers that be want to get so technical about all this then what about Wales? Technically Wales isn't actually a country and therefore doesn't actually have a national flag.
Wales is historically a constituent part of the Kingdom of England (having been absorbed by England in the Laws in Wales Acts 1535–1542). The Kingdom of England and Kingdom of Scotland formed Great Britain in the Act of Union of 1707. Cornwall has a flag - doesn't make it a country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.164.124 ( talk) 19:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
By definition, all the try scorers are not the leading ones. As well as being (therefore) self-contradictory, the list is unencyclopedic and should be trimmed drastically. -- Dweller ( talk) 15:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
If the edit wars over the Irish flag don't stop, I'll protect the article. Discussion should take place here, consensus emerge and then be followed. -- Dweller ( talk) 09:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
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I think if there is 2002-2008 Six Nations pages,then there should be a 2009 one as well.Someone said Argentina might join but they are way too far away from Europe.Somebody WILL create this article sometime so why not now?-- 86.41.85.203 ( talk) 11:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Oppose merge: I say leave it thereit will be needed soon and if someone wanted to you could easily add some stub-like information: who is playing whom where, are Ireland still at Croke Park? etc. And the fixtures are released soon anyway. PeemJim86 ( talk) 22:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I didn't know what sport this was for until I saw the words "Rugby Union", maybe include what SPORT they are playing in the first paragraph? (HalesInfamous)
Have you got a source to back the assertion that Ireland's home games will be at Croker? The article Croke Park states that the GAA had made clear that they would not host soccer and rugby beyond 2008. Both articles can't be right. Kevin McE ( talk) 15:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Can someone explain, (preferably with some references), why the team manager of England is put down as head coach? Is it an official position of the English rugby union? Or are we so desperate to fill the table for a championship 7 months away that we cannot wait for an official announcement?
If we are going to make such assumptions why not put the name of the captains as well.
FFMG (
talk)
16:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
The Stade de France is in Saint-Denis. Now, Saint-Denis may not be a city, which is what the column title says, but the Stade de France's official website ( http://www.stadefrance.com) clearly names the location of the stadium as Saint-Denis. The 2007 Rugby World Cup also named Saint-Denis as a quite distinct location from Paris ( [3]), as did the 1998 FIFA World Cup ( [4]). So like I said, Saint-Denis may not be a city, but similar to the relationship between Salford and Manchester, it is a large commune within the boundary of the nearby city. – Pee Jay 17:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Discussions regarding this have also been started here and here. WP:FORUMSHOP anyone? Let's keep all discussions in one place please? Nouse4aname ( talk) 15:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
"Twickenham is part of a borough of London, it has a London Postcode and the mayor of London has jurisdiction over Twickenham. Whereas Saint-Denis is an independent city, with its own postcode and its own mayor. It's not even in the same département as Paris. Everything outside of the boulevard périphérique (bar a couple of parks) is considered to be another administrative division different from Paris (which explain why Paris proper is so small in size compared to London). While Twickenham is a borough of London (and Brooklyn a borough of NY) Saint-Denis is definitely NOT a borough of Paris."
– Pee Jay 12:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I know this is more content than article, but can anyone explain what "c" stands for as in "Tries: Harinordoquy 15' c"? YeshuaDavid ( talk) 21:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there some official source for attendance figures? According to the match report for the France-Scotland game on the RBS 6 Nations official site, and several newspapers, the attendance at Stade de France was 80,000, which is the stadium's capacity. But the BBC (and several other newspapers) give the attendance as 65,000, which implies that nearly 20 percent of the seats were empty. If there isn't an official source, and unofficial sources differ so much, is the information worth including?-- Jimmy Pitt ( talk) 23:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey there, I've edited the article using the template, so that Ireland is shown the same way as other nations (with the flag and the links to both the country and the national team), but was reverted. Is there a reason for that? I did look through the discussion page before doing it, but found no reason for Ireland standing out like that. Zhuravskij ( talk) 01:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the noflag is a terrible idea. Ireland uses banners when competing in Rugby Union games internationally and at home. Having no flag by Ireland's name make it look like there's nothing that represents Ireland when they compete. But, there is. When competing at Home (ie. Croke Park or Landsdowne) the anthems that are sung are Amhrán na bhFiann and Ireland's Call. Amhrán na bhFiann is the Republic of Ireland's National Anthem and Ireland's Call is the National Anthem for Island of Ireland in many international sports events including Rugby Union, Hockey, Cricket, and Rugby League. When Ireland is competing away from home. The only Anthem that's sung is Ireland's Call. This Anthem was commissioned by the Irish Rugby Football Union in 1995. This has been done in conjunction with the flying of both the Irish Republican flag and the Ulster flag. Unfortunately, during away games the host countries usually allow only one banner per team and so in this case the Tri Colour flag is used. But, when more than one banner can be used, both the Tri Colour flag and the Ulster flags are flown. So, because of this, I think using both the Tri Colour flag and the Ulster flag by Ireland's name is both appropriate and correct. Because of this, I'm changing it to use both those flags. Brendan OhUiginn ( talk) 00:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Could someone please fix the flag to the Rugby one, as the Republic's flag is neither appropiate or correct. Use the Shamrock one as on other Irish rugby pages or the Cross of St. Pat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.28.43 ( talk) 23:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
I have found the official one
Ireland Image:IRFU_Flag_of_Ireland.svg
can someone please put this up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.28.43 ( talk) 23:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Seems to have been started here Archive 1 - Flag of Ireland then started again here Archive 4 - IRB vs. IRFU all-Ireland flags before restarting here Wider opinion needed regarding banner and flag use, here IRFU Flag and here Removing Ireland flags
Although all other six nation teams are represented by their national flag and it seems the irish team does in fact sometimes use this flag at tests as well. However there seems to exist reasons for some wikipedia editors to believe this may not be appropriate. Sadly I am largely ignorant of the more practical aspects of Irish history as they relate to flags and their national teams - however
Irish Rugby Football Union#History gives a good consise explanation. Anyway on first appearance it is strange not to see the national flag icon but I get it now. Nevertheless the
2009 six nations article employed all three alternatives on one page for the same team - no flag, irish flag and IRFU flag!!! I guess this page suggests that as yet no clear and generally accepted consensus has been reached. Just as a tidying up exercise I put the
Ireland in rather than blank or
image:IRFU Flag of Ireland.svg, and only then discovered the above long-running debate and issues.
ROxBo
seems to be a awful lot of whining about the Irish flag....
Jcforge (
talk)
17:59, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Well if the powers that be want to get so technical about all this then what about Wales? Technically Wales isn't actually a country and therefore doesn't actually have a national flag.
Wales is historically a constituent part of the Kingdom of England (having been absorbed by England in the Laws in Wales Acts 1535–1542). The Kingdom of England and Kingdom of Scotland formed Great Britain in the Act of Union of 1707. Cornwall has a flag - doesn't make it a country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.164.124 ( talk) 19:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
By definition, all the try scorers are not the leading ones. As well as being (therefore) self-contradictory, the list is unencyclopedic and should be trimmed drastically. -- Dweller ( talk) 15:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
If the edit wars over the Irish flag don't stop, I'll protect the article. Discussion should take place here, consensus emerge and then be followed. -- Dweller ( talk) 09:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
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