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This information is not cited in the article and is in fact incorrect. There was a typhoon in Japan at the time, however, it was several hunderd kilometers to the west in the vicinity of the 能登半島 (Noto Peninsula) of Ishikawa Prefecture. As the typhoon's centre was nowhere near the epicentre of the earthquake, there is no reason to believe that atmospheric pressure or tidal surge from the typhoon had any influence whatsoever on the earthquake's occurrence. Winds wrapping around from the typhoon's circulation, however, were particularly strong in the Kanto region on that day, and it is considered more than likely that these contributed to fanning the flames from the fires which broke out in the quake and created the ensuing firestorm in Tokyo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Todd Gorman ( talk • contribs) 08:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Where's the proof? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.188.222 ( talk) 15:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
"Japanese authorities actively spread rumours". Where is the source? I'm quite aware of killing but governemnt role in this spreading rumor is not substantiated as far as I'm aware. FWBOarticle 21:46, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Is there any reason that we could trust those references? It would be hard to believe Koreans are unbiased on this issue. Unless you show unpartisant resources asserting the government's role, we should get away from that. -- Taku 13:33, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)
The article sited state that "Some scholars believe that, in view of the martial law, it is plausible that the rumors were spread by the government in order to justify the martial law." It appear that "no smoking gun" document is found. Anyway feel free to present such view with proper attribution to "some scholars".
+++ end of FWBOarticle's comment +++
The argument that the same allegations have also come from the Japanese themselves doesn't cout. They are leftist who always wait for their chance to criticize the government, especially the military. And they have been dissidents too long to view things from the the authority's standpoint. It is highly unlikely that the authority fomented disorder. Actually it always hates disorder. It was wary of a communist revolution and other disturbances. Of course, it didn't want Japanese crowd to promote disorder.
I found an interesting research about the Korean claims: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/lovelovedog/20020901 He just read books and web pages and traced the sources of information. But he demonstrated how unreliable they are. I think tracing the origins of information is a sure formula for countering information laundering -- Nanshu 02:59, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have correction to make. One police chief has sent report to other section in effect stating that "Korean are commiting arsons". This seems to be the basis of the government spread the false rumour. So far there is no document showing this officer's report to the higher government office. The right insist that the report is accurate while the left insist that the report is false. Secondly, the death toll estimate vary. The report by Home Ministry say 400-600, newspaper reported the figure of about 1400. In Korean, the official line is 6000 and it is based on made by a Korean two year after the earthquake. Obviously, the Japanese right consider his report/reasearch to be fabrication. Anyway, it is o.k. to quote the report. Then explain that the right would consider the report to be accurate while the left consider it to be false. But you should wait for a while because this article is currently on the homepage of Wikipedia. FWBOarticle 03:50, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The article on the Richter magnitude scale states that the scale was developed in 1935, a dozen years after the Great Kanto earthquake. So the statement in the article Great Kanto earthquake that "The quake was recorded at a magnitude of 7.9 on the Richter scale" doesn't ring true. Perhaps the magnitude was computed later based on other measurements?
- My guess is that is why the magnitudes range so much, it was calculated later, but not perfectly.
The way this page is presented is biased towards the Japanese government, stating the civilian millitia were responsible for the massacres of Koreans.
In the section Damage we find this sentence: The damage is estimated to have exceeded one billion U.S. dollars at contemporary values. Unfortunately, the word "contemporary" is ambiguous; it means at the same time as the event being discussed but is more often used to mean modern or current. Because of this ambiguity the word should be avoided and, in this sentence, replaced with a phrase that is unambiguous. The problem is, I don't know whether the intended meaning was 1 billion 1923 dollars or 1 billion dollars as of the time of writing. Can anyone help? Pinkville 23:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
George DeVos' "Koreans in Japan" describes "...On 3 September Ueno police captured seventy Koreans. They chopped off their arms and threw the bodies into a fire..." I am not sure if that counts as protection or not.... ( 216.165.24.151 23:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC))
Details on the massacres probably deserve their own article.-- 218.227.10.9 ( talk) 10:10, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
I fixed what I assumed was a typo in the image caption ("Desolution of Nihonbashi and Kanda seen from the Roof of Dai-ichi Sogo Building, Kyobashi."), changing it to "Desolation". This edit was reverted by Amagase; I don't understand why, so I'm asking here... The OED only has 'desolation'. Thanks! pm215 18:13, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
From a visit to the memorial museum, and the english pamphlet: - The current park is the place (Kyuu Yasuda Garden 旧安田) where the refugees have burnt. (yokohami 2-3, and around. metro station ryogoku) - This place was the a place for clothes storage for army. The place were disaffected at this time. That's why someone suggested to regroup there. - The current temple in the park 'Tokyo-to Ireido' (to check) has been built as memorial. - There's also a small cavity holding the books with names of the childs which perished from the earthquake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FCartegnie ( talk • contribs) 13:30, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
"The power and intensity was astonishing: it managed to move the 93-ton Great Buddha statue at Kamakura which was over 60 km away from the epicenter, sliding it forward almost two feet"
Considering how easily an earthquake may move a fair part of the Earth's crust by several feet, the Great Buddha weight is relatively insignificant. Unless (and even if) there was a religious intent, I don't think this comment is relevant, and may even be misleading to people not used to earthquakes. Zenkutsu ( talk) 09:11, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
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I'm assuming that the manga finishes a little after the earthquake, but the unit of time is missing. Is it a few days, a few weeks, or a few months?
This could also use some cleanup.
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Have not confirmed this / got a better reference: "during a 1923 Tokyo earthquake when a flaming cyclone lifted floating boats up off a river—and the river water itself nearly 50 feet into the air—before hitting a military depot in which 40,000 people had taken refuge, killing nearly all of them." from https://www.wired.com/story/west-coast-california-wildfire-infernos -- TFJamMan ( talk) 16:25, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
The various Japanese names make it clear that the incident is called the "Great Earthquake" and has nothing to do with "Great Kanto"... Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:26, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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This information is not cited in the article and is in fact incorrect. There was a typhoon in Japan at the time, however, it was several hunderd kilometers to the west in the vicinity of the 能登半島 (Noto Peninsula) of Ishikawa Prefecture. As the typhoon's centre was nowhere near the epicentre of the earthquake, there is no reason to believe that atmospheric pressure or tidal surge from the typhoon had any influence whatsoever on the earthquake's occurrence. Winds wrapping around from the typhoon's circulation, however, were particularly strong in the Kanto region on that day, and it is considered more than likely that these contributed to fanning the flames from the fires which broke out in the quake and created the ensuing firestorm in Tokyo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Todd Gorman ( talk • contribs) 08:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Where's the proof? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.188.222 ( talk) 15:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
"Japanese authorities actively spread rumours". Where is the source? I'm quite aware of killing but governemnt role in this spreading rumor is not substantiated as far as I'm aware. FWBOarticle 21:46, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Is there any reason that we could trust those references? It would be hard to believe Koreans are unbiased on this issue. Unless you show unpartisant resources asserting the government's role, we should get away from that. -- Taku 13:33, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)
The article sited state that "Some scholars believe that, in view of the martial law, it is plausible that the rumors were spread by the government in order to justify the martial law." It appear that "no smoking gun" document is found. Anyway feel free to present such view with proper attribution to "some scholars".
+++ end of FWBOarticle's comment +++
The argument that the same allegations have also come from the Japanese themselves doesn't cout. They are leftist who always wait for their chance to criticize the government, especially the military. And they have been dissidents too long to view things from the the authority's standpoint. It is highly unlikely that the authority fomented disorder. Actually it always hates disorder. It was wary of a communist revolution and other disturbances. Of course, it didn't want Japanese crowd to promote disorder.
I found an interesting research about the Korean claims: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/lovelovedog/20020901 He just read books and web pages and traced the sources of information. But he demonstrated how unreliable they are. I think tracing the origins of information is a sure formula for countering information laundering -- Nanshu 02:59, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have correction to make. One police chief has sent report to other section in effect stating that "Korean are commiting arsons". This seems to be the basis of the government spread the false rumour. So far there is no document showing this officer's report to the higher government office. The right insist that the report is accurate while the left insist that the report is false. Secondly, the death toll estimate vary. The report by Home Ministry say 400-600, newspaper reported the figure of about 1400. In Korean, the official line is 6000 and it is based on made by a Korean two year after the earthquake. Obviously, the Japanese right consider his report/reasearch to be fabrication. Anyway, it is o.k. to quote the report. Then explain that the right would consider the report to be accurate while the left consider it to be false. But you should wait for a while because this article is currently on the homepage of Wikipedia. FWBOarticle 03:50, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The article on the Richter magnitude scale states that the scale was developed in 1935, a dozen years after the Great Kanto earthquake. So the statement in the article Great Kanto earthquake that "The quake was recorded at a magnitude of 7.9 on the Richter scale" doesn't ring true. Perhaps the magnitude was computed later based on other measurements?
- My guess is that is why the magnitudes range so much, it was calculated later, but not perfectly.
The way this page is presented is biased towards the Japanese government, stating the civilian millitia were responsible for the massacres of Koreans.
In the section Damage we find this sentence: The damage is estimated to have exceeded one billion U.S. dollars at contemporary values. Unfortunately, the word "contemporary" is ambiguous; it means at the same time as the event being discussed but is more often used to mean modern or current. Because of this ambiguity the word should be avoided and, in this sentence, replaced with a phrase that is unambiguous. The problem is, I don't know whether the intended meaning was 1 billion 1923 dollars or 1 billion dollars as of the time of writing. Can anyone help? Pinkville 23:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
George DeVos' "Koreans in Japan" describes "...On 3 September Ueno police captured seventy Koreans. They chopped off their arms and threw the bodies into a fire..." I am not sure if that counts as protection or not.... ( 216.165.24.151 23:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC))
Details on the massacres probably deserve their own article.-- 218.227.10.9 ( talk) 10:10, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
I fixed what I assumed was a typo in the image caption ("Desolution of Nihonbashi and Kanda seen from the Roof of Dai-ichi Sogo Building, Kyobashi."), changing it to "Desolation". This edit was reverted by Amagase; I don't understand why, so I'm asking here... The OED only has 'desolation'. Thanks! pm215 18:13, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
From a visit to the memorial museum, and the english pamphlet: - The current park is the place (Kyuu Yasuda Garden 旧安田) where the refugees have burnt. (yokohami 2-3, and around. metro station ryogoku) - This place was the a place for clothes storage for army. The place were disaffected at this time. That's why someone suggested to regroup there. - The current temple in the park 'Tokyo-to Ireido' (to check) has been built as memorial. - There's also a small cavity holding the books with names of the childs which perished from the earthquake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FCartegnie ( talk • contribs) 13:30, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
"The power and intensity was astonishing: it managed to move the 93-ton Great Buddha statue at Kamakura which was over 60 km away from the epicenter, sliding it forward almost two feet"
Considering how easily an earthquake may move a fair part of the Earth's crust by several feet, the Great Buddha weight is relatively insignificant. Unless (and even if) there was a religious intent, I don't think this comment is relevant, and may even be misleading to people not used to earthquakes. Zenkutsu ( talk) 09:11, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
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I'm assuming that the manga finishes a little after the earthquake, but the unit of time is missing. Is it a few days, a few weeks, or a few months?
This could also use some cleanup.
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Have not confirmed this / got a better reference: "during a 1923 Tokyo earthquake when a flaming cyclone lifted floating boats up off a river—and the river water itself nearly 50 feet into the air—before hitting a military depot in which 40,000 people had taken refuge, killing nearly all of them." from https://www.wired.com/story/west-coast-california-wildfire-infernos -- TFJamMan ( talk) 16:25, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
The various Japanese names make it clear that the incident is called the "Great Earthquake" and has nothing to do with "Great Kanto"... Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:26, 5 November 2021 (UTC)