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I have known about this series for quite a long time now. The series was just launched this past March, but only in the UK, and as of today, it is only airing in the UK and a few other select countries, but it is not airing in the US. As of today, I have still heard no word on when the series will launch in the US of if it's even coming to the US at all. It has been heavily rumored that it is coming to the US, but all I've been hearing are random assumptions from the fans, and at this point, I'm starting to have doubts that it will ever come to the US at all. Does anybody have any information regarding this so that I could set all these rumors to rest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3A40:D2C0:9C2D:24B2:112:6A39 ( talk) 16:26, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
@ BaldiBasicsFan I think we should sapprted the main series overview and the shorts overview similar to DuckTales (2017) and Gravity Falls are Fanoflionking 22:01, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Guys, I am sorry about the edit war that happened recently. I was trying to put the overalls in the overviews in the shorts (most TV shows do use the overalls in overviews), but those people think that I was breaking a rule. Please forgive me because I am just a nice guy that got many warnings the past. BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 02:16, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Why have half of them been removed? They've already premiered and we can verify them, so what's up with that? JDB555 ( talk) 18:45, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
What's the point of removing it? It's in the correct space and it's info that could potentially be useful. JDB555 ( talk) 18:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
@ JDB555 and BaldiBasicsFan: Instead of edit-warring (and yes, it IS an edit-war!), you need to start discussing here. Your back and forth edits are not helping the article. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 05:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Proof of the show on Rai Gulp: https://www.teleboy.ch/en/search?query=title:101%20Dalmatian%20Street
However, there needs to be a source for the second season if the Italian Disney+ release would count, or even the new episodes not airing on Rai Gulp. I was thinking that new episodes of the series might even air on Rai Gulp too. BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 22:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
So if you want the series release be about all of the dates on Disney+, please read WP:CRYSTAL, as it should only be about it as an exclusive to service, not on other dates that have it air on a television channel or releasing it on another streaming service. BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 02:29, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
We should remove these for a variety of reasons.
Usually, notes in the summaries keep away vandals from adding WP:COPYVIO, but someone is just making nonsense here.
I understand with PonyLife, since I added too many notes, but for this show, IT'S ONLY 21!
@ JDB555 you could shorten the notes or you could even put a note on top of the tables about copyvios. Hell, why not make summaries in your OWN words to also remove them?!
I'm not even joking, those notes are meant to stop vandals from adding copyvio, but you think that only one note in the summaries is enough?! That is WP:WINAB.
Look, having notes in the summaries is COMPLETELY FINE. It doesn't mean you get any rewards, per WP:WIN. Notes are what help the page from vandalism, NOT when they are removed.
If you disagree, please be sure to show respect even if your angry about this, but if your disrespect or don't, I will give you warnings about WP:DE. Just fix the problem, don't remove everything as per WP:VANDAL.
BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 01:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Other pages have also used the style of leaving a few notes for editors to read, and not having it on every summary.- That works for some programs but programs like this, aimed at a younger audience, invariably attract copyvios, which is why the notes generally get added to
|EpisodeSummary=
.As I have mentioned above, the manual of style contradicts this- Actually, no it doesn't. The guideline doesn't say anything of the sort. It simply says "Avoid adding too many invisible comments because they can clutter the wiki source for other editors." In practical terms this means different notes spread throughout the article. Episode lists are unique in that we duplicate the same note in each summary for the reasons that I explained; i.e. when the note for a particular episode is replaced with a valid summary, the note is not usually moved to the next episode. This results in no note at all, which is usually problematic because then the copyvios start getting added and they can be undetected for years.
Please expand on this point - I'm confused as to how it does.- The addition of copyvios where there are no notes always reduces the quality of a page.
leaving too many notes goes against Wikipedia's manual of style and counts as disruptive editing, therefore violating rules.- The MOS is a guideline, not a bunch of rules. Even policies (which the MOS is not) are not hard and fast rules that have to be followed. We even have a policy called Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. Ignoring the MOS is NOT disruptive editing.
that's still an extra 12,000 bytes- 12kB is nothing. The Wikpimedia software allows pages up to 2MB in size. Editors shouldn't be worried about the byte size of articles. The amount of readable prose is what guides us.
There is absolutely no reason to have that many notes on a single page.- Experience over many years has shown this to be untrue. Pages that include the copyvio warnings rarely have additional copyvios added after the warnings are added.
Please follow WP:CRYSTAL, MOS:TVINTL and pages of other international Disney shows. 101DS is a British-Canadian production, not American. BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 20:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
I noticed that the American airdates were added to the infobox, but I'm not sure why they're there. For one, in both of the cases listed, the show premiered in the United States before their home countries (Canada and the United Kingdom, respectfully). However, this isn't the case here, so I see no point in listing it. Second, the show does not originate in the United States besides a few characters being voiced in the United States, which does not mean that the show was produced in those country (in that case, shows such as It's Pony mentioned in the edit reason would be considered British-American). Third, even if we were to list the American airdates, why use the airdates on cable TV and not the release on Disney+? The Disney+ release happened a long while before the TV premiere, so it's clear that the intention was to release it on Disney+ exclusively first and then release it on television. I also fail to see how WP:WINARS applies to the situation here. JDB555 ( talk) 03:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
I was cleaning up the bare URLs, as part of working through the backlog however I ran into an issue. Citations 37-43, as of this revision, are all weblinks to now dead JSON entries on regional Disney Channel stations from Netherlands, Italy, and Belgium. As JSON is machine readable only, I'm making this section to hopefully let someone more familiar with this article find a more appropriate source. Sideswipe9th ( talk) 00:17, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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I have known about this series for quite a long time now. The series was just launched this past March, but only in the UK, and as of today, it is only airing in the UK and a few other select countries, but it is not airing in the US. As of today, I have still heard no word on when the series will launch in the US of if it's even coming to the US at all. It has been heavily rumored that it is coming to the US, but all I've been hearing are random assumptions from the fans, and at this point, I'm starting to have doubts that it will ever come to the US at all. Does anybody have any information regarding this so that I could set all these rumors to rest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3A40:D2C0:9C2D:24B2:112:6A39 ( talk) 16:26, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
@ BaldiBasicsFan I think we should sapprted the main series overview and the shorts overview similar to DuckTales (2017) and Gravity Falls are Fanoflionking 22:01, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Guys, I am sorry about the edit war that happened recently. I was trying to put the overalls in the overviews in the shorts (most TV shows do use the overalls in overviews), but those people think that I was breaking a rule. Please forgive me because I am just a nice guy that got many warnings the past. BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 02:16, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Why have half of them been removed? They've already premiered and we can verify them, so what's up with that? JDB555 ( talk) 18:45, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
What's the point of removing it? It's in the correct space and it's info that could potentially be useful. JDB555 ( talk) 18:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
@ JDB555 and BaldiBasicsFan: Instead of edit-warring (and yes, it IS an edit-war!), you need to start discussing here. Your back and forth edits are not helping the article. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 05:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Proof of the show on Rai Gulp: https://www.teleboy.ch/en/search?query=title:101%20Dalmatian%20Street
However, there needs to be a source for the second season if the Italian Disney+ release would count, or even the new episodes not airing on Rai Gulp. I was thinking that new episodes of the series might even air on Rai Gulp too. BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 22:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
So if you want the series release be about all of the dates on Disney+, please read WP:CRYSTAL, as it should only be about it as an exclusive to service, not on other dates that have it air on a television channel or releasing it on another streaming service. BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 02:29, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
We should remove these for a variety of reasons.
Usually, notes in the summaries keep away vandals from adding WP:COPYVIO, but someone is just making nonsense here.
I understand with PonyLife, since I added too many notes, but for this show, IT'S ONLY 21!
@ JDB555 you could shorten the notes or you could even put a note on top of the tables about copyvios. Hell, why not make summaries in your OWN words to also remove them?!
I'm not even joking, those notes are meant to stop vandals from adding copyvio, but you think that only one note in the summaries is enough?! That is WP:WINAB.
Look, having notes in the summaries is COMPLETELY FINE. It doesn't mean you get any rewards, per WP:WIN. Notes are what help the page from vandalism, NOT when they are removed.
If you disagree, please be sure to show respect even if your angry about this, but if your disrespect or don't, I will give you warnings about WP:DE. Just fix the problem, don't remove everything as per WP:VANDAL.
BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 01:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Other pages have also used the style of leaving a few notes for editors to read, and not having it on every summary.- That works for some programs but programs like this, aimed at a younger audience, invariably attract copyvios, which is why the notes generally get added to
|EpisodeSummary=
.As I have mentioned above, the manual of style contradicts this- Actually, no it doesn't. The guideline doesn't say anything of the sort. It simply says "Avoid adding too many invisible comments because they can clutter the wiki source for other editors." In practical terms this means different notes spread throughout the article. Episode lists are unique in that we duplicate the same note in each summary for the reasons that I explained; i.e. when the note for a particular episode is replaced with a valid summary, the note is not usually moved to the next episode. This results in no note at all, which is usually problematic because then the copyvios start getting added and they can be undetected for years.
Please expand on this point - I'm confused as to how it does.- The addition of copyvios where there are no notes always reduces the quality of a page.
leaving too many notes goes against Wikipedia's manual of style and counts as disruptive editing, therefore violating rules.- The MOS is a guideline, not a bunch of rules. Even policies (which the MOS is not) are not hard and fast rules that have to be followed. We even have a policy called Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. Ignoring the MOS is NOT disruptive editing.
that's still an extra 12,000 bytes- 12kB is nothing. The Wikpimedia software allows pages up to 2MB in size. Editors shouldn't be worried about the byte size of articles. The amount of readable prose is what guides us.
There is absolutely no reason to have that many notes on a single page.- Experience over many years has shown this to be untrue. Pages that include the copyvio warnings rarely have additional copyvios added after the warnings are added.
Please follow WP:CRYSTAL, MOS:TVINTL and pages of other international Disney shows. 101DS is a British-Canadian production, not American. BaldiBasicsFan ( talk) 20:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
I noticed that the American airdates were added to the infobox, but I'm not sure why they're there. For one, in both of the cases listed, the show premiered in the United States before their home countries (Canada and the United Kingdom, respectfully). However, this isn't the case here, so I see no point in listing it. Second, the show does not originate in the United States besides a few characters being voiced in the United States, which does not mean that the show was produced in those country (in that case, shows such as It's Pony mentioned in the edit reason would be considered British-American). Third, even if we were to list the American airdates, why use the airdates on cable TV and not the release on Disney+? The Disney+ release happened a long while before the TV premiere, so it's clear that the intention was to release it on Disney+ exclusively first and then release it on television. I also fail to see how WP:WINARS applies to the situation here. JDB555 ( talk) 03:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
I was cleaning up the bare URLs, as part of working through the backlog however I ran into an issue. Citations 37-43, as of this revision, are all weblinks to now dead JSON entries on regional Disney Channel stations from Netherlands, Italy, and Belgium. As JSON is machine readable only, I'm making this section to hopefully let someone more familiar with this article find a more appropriate source. Sideswipe9th ( talk) 00:17, 6 June 2022 (UTC)