19:4319:43, 17 August 2022diffhist−1,812
Johann Dzierzon
You Brunton have to start talk (First above all read the section "Dzierzon vs Prokopovyich hive" - there are the reasons why I consider the "resources" of no value. I asked you, if you did read this and you never confirmed). I left my note at last removal. This is "wish" of a person who say: "some experts consider that the movable frame bee hive of Johann Dzierzon was also constructed on the basis of Prokopovich’s invention." WHAT EXPERTS? I also explained why any experts can give such opinion.Tag: Reverted
22:2522:25, 15 August 2022diffhist−2,644
Johann Dzierzon
The resource is not ML Gornich book, it is his (Gornich) to the conference. Just a talk by some beekeeper with no scientific degree. Gornich's report/presentation was raffle described in the article "Petro Prokopovich Remembered" in nonscientific periodic "The Beekeepers Quarterly" by Dr. Fursov. There is no scientific value in the script of TALK of a common beekeeper. Most important no historical and technical factsTag: Reverted
03:0203:02, 10 August 2022diffhist−2,111
Johann Dzierzon
Removing unproven sugestion. For month I asked for facts not assumptions. Unfounded propaganda is not allowed on WikipediaTag: Reverted
21:5421:54, 4 August 2022diffhist−1,811
Johann Dzierzon
Removing unfunded suggestions since the comment was undead by Brunton. The facts were provided in detail on the talk page over one month and were disregarded totally by Richard Keatinge.Tag: Reverted
11:3411:34, 4 August 2022diffhist+117
Johann Dzierzon
Word "possibly" suggests assumption, editor Richard Keatinge can not provide anything that Dzierzon used from Prokopovich ideas. The details about the originality of Dr. Dzierzon's hive were explained to him on the talk page. He refused to respond to provided facts.Tag: Reverted
00:3400:34, 28 July 2022diffhist−9
Talk:Johann Dzierzon
→Dzierzon vs Prokopovyich hive: VVNo we do not have Fursov reference supporting suggestion we have talk of Fursov about suggestion. Reference is a p material ie. telling facts not suggestions. You have no prove. GIVE ONE SPECIFIC POINT WHERE DZIERZON USED ORGINAL PROKOPOVICH IDEA. JUST ONE!!! AND WE WILL SEE WHAT THE VALUE OF YOUR CONVICTION IS.Tags: Mobile editMobile web edit
09:0809:08, 19 July 2022diffhist−975
Johann Dzierzon
V.N Fusov says: "M L Gornich (Kyiv), in his report titled “Petro Prokopovich and World Beekeeping”, indicated that papers of Prokopovich were translated into German and French in his time and were well known in Europe. He SUGESTED [i.e. M L Gornich (Kyiv)] that SOME EXPERTS [not mentioned who] consider that the movable frame bee hive of Johann Dzierzon was also constructed on the basis of Prokopovich’s invention [not mentioned what part of P. invention]. IT IS NOT scientific talk!Tag: Reverted
19:4319:43, 17 August 2022diffhist−1,812
Johann Dzierzon
You Brunton have to start talk (First above all read the section "Dzierzon vs Prokopovyich hive" - there are the reasons why I consider the "resources" of no value. I asked you, if you did read this and you never confirmed). I left my note at last removal. This is "wish" of a person who say: "some experts consider that the movable frame bee hive of Johann Dzierzon was also constructed on the basis of Prokopovich’s invention." WHAT EXPERTS? I also explained why any experts can give such opinion.Tag: Reverted
22:2522:25, 15 August 2022diffhist−2,644
Johann Dzierzon
The resource is not ML Gornich book, it is his (Gornich) to the conference. Just a talk by some beekeeper with no scientific degree. Gornich's report/presentation was raffle described in the article "Petro Prokopovich Remembered" in nonscientific periodic "The Beekeepers Quarterly" by Dr. Fursov. There is no scientific value in the script of TALK of a common beekeeper. Most important no historical and technical factsTag: Reverted
03:0203:02, 10 August 2022diffhist−2,111
Johann Dzierzon
Removing unproven sugestion. For month I asked for facts not assumptions. Unfounded propaganda is not allowed on WikipediaTag: Reverted
21:5421:54, 4 August 2022diffhist−1,811
Johann Dzierzon
Removing unfunded suggestions since the comment was undead by Brunton. The facts were provided in detail on the talk page over one month and were disregarded totally by Richard Keatinge.Tag: Reverted
11:3411:34, 4 August 2022diffhist+117
Johann Dzierzon
Word "possibly" suggests assumption, editor Richard Keatinge can not provide anything that Dzierzon used from Prokopovich ideas. The details about the originality of Dr. Dzierzon's hive were explained to him on the talk page. He refused to respond to provided facts.Tag: Reverted
00:3400:34, 28 July 2022diffhist−9
Talk:Johann Dzierzon
→Dzierzon vs Prokopovyich hive: VVNo we do not have Fursov reference supporting suggestion we have talk of Fursov about suggestion. Reference is a p material ie. telling facts not suggestions. You have no prove. GIVE ONE SPECIFIC POINT WHERE DZIERZON USED ORGINAL PROKOPOVICH IDEA. JUST ONE!!! AND WE WILL SEE WHAT THE VALUE OF YOUR CONVICTION IS.Tags: Mobile editMobile web edit
09:0809:08, 19 July 2022diffhist−975
Johann Dzierzon
V.N Fusov says: "M L Gornich (Kyiv), in his report titled “Petro Prokopovich and World Beekeeping”, indicated that papers of Prokopovich were translated into German and French in his time and were well known in Europe. He SUGESTED [i.e. M L Gornich (Kyiv)] that SOME EXPERTS [not mentioned who] consider that the movable frame bee hive of Johann Dzierzon was also constructed on the basis of Prokopovich’s invention [not mentioned what part of P. invention]. IT IS NOT scientific talk!Tag: Reverted