Something is wrong here. While the preview on
MediaWiki:Citethispage-content looks fine (except that there are visible "<citation>" tags around the "retrieved" date), actually using the "cite this page" functionality (e.g.
/info/en/?search=Special:CiteThisPage?page=Example) leads to the "retrieved" date/datetime appearing on lines of its own, which is probably not intended. (The two BibTeX entries even show broken <pre>
formatting.)
-- das-g ( talk) 10:05, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
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The bibtex version of citation in MediaWiki:Citethispage-content is inconsistent with the other citation examples. I agree that (in this case), the minority is wrong. "Wikipedia" is not a legal person, and even if there were some effort made to define Wikipedia as a legal person, it's rock-solid Wikipedians' and WMF's legal interpretation that the copyright is that of the authors, i.e. Wikipedians. (WMF is not Wikipedia :).)
So in the two bibtex entries, please change
author = "Wikipedia",
to
author = "Wikipedia contributors",
or
author = {Wikipedia contributors},
or
author = "{Wikipedia contributors}",
This should be uncontroversial, it seems to me. (I admit I haven't really checked what bibtex + LaTeX really prefer in terms of {} vs "" here... It's not the easiest thing to search for with a search engine.)
Regarding the existence of a space in the "family name", there are some authors of scientific articles whose "family name" (or main name) has two words separated by a space, e.g. Charles de Gaulle would be author = "{{de Gaulle}, C.}" or author = "{{de~Gaulle}, C.}" (or Ch. from a phonetic point of view). Boud ( talk) 22:10, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I've opened up a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Citing_Wikipedia#When_citing_Wikipedia,_why_not_cite_the_authors?_Why_cite_a_legally_non-existent_person_as_the_author? about citing the first few or the main authors. There's a tool under very recent development (it doesn't seem to be working well yet) mentioned in the discussion. The choice "Wikipedia contributors" responds to my immediate concern (Wikipedia is not the author of any Wikipedia pages - and User:Wikipedia is blocked :)), but I think the possibility of citing the first few or a few prominent authors - as self-identified - should be open to debate. So I'm not proposing any short-term change to the Special: page here. I'm just opening up the debate. (There would be a modest cpu cost to listing the first few authors; there would probably be a heavy cpu cost with the algorithm (javascript implementation) under development that estimates the most active contributors, and any alternative algorithm would presumably add either a cpu or a memory/caching load or both.) Boud ( talk) 22:10, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
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There seem to be two errors in the APA example:
So I propose replacing
{{FULLPAGENAME}}. ({{CURRENTYEAR}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}). In ...
by
{{SITENAME}} contributors. ({{CURRENTYEAR}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}). {{FULLPAGENAME}}. In ...
in the APA subsection. Boud ( talk) 21:45, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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Bibtex format interprets
author = "Wikipedia contributors"
as one author, with the first name "Wikipedia", and the last name "contributors". Additional curly brackets help:
author = "{{{SITENAME}} contributors}",
as they tell bibtex that "Wikipedia contributors" is a single, inseparable, unit. 129.206.61.28 ( talk) 14:41, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Fixed BibTeX entry section (additional curly braces to prevent bibtex from mis-interpreting 'Wikipedia' as first name and 'contributors' as last name) - I cannot test if the horrible mediawiki syntax is corrrect with the additional braces:
=== [[BibTeX]] entry === {{pre|1= @misc{ wiki:xxx, author = "{{(}}{{SITENAME}} contributors{{)}}", title = "{{FULLPAGENAME}} --- {{(}}{{SITENAME}}{{)}}{,} {{MediaWiki:Sitesubtitle}}", year = "{{CURRENTYEAR}}", url = "{{canonicalurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|oldid={{REVISIONID}}}}", note = "[Online; accessed <citation>{{#time:j-F-Y}}</citation>]" } }} When using the [[LaTeX]] package <code>url</code> (<code>\usepackage{url}</code> somewhere in the preamble), which tends to give much more nicely formatted web addresses, the following may be preferred: {{pre|1= @misc{ wiki:xxx, author = "{{(}}{{SITENAME}} contributors{{)}}", title = "{{FULLPAGENAME}} --- {{(}}{{SITENAME}}{{)}}{,} {{MediaWiki:Sitesubtitle}}", year = "{{CURRENTYEAR}}", howpublished = "\url{{(}}{{canonicalurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|oldid={{REVISIONID}}}}{{)}}", note = "[Online; accessed <citation>{{#time:j-F-Y}}</citation>]" } }}
I also fix the wrong \url
suggestion. That should go into the howpublished field only.
129.206.61.28 (
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In the "Wikipedia talk pages" section, I'd like to request that the format be changed from that of an external link to that of an intrawiki link. Since it involves nowiki tags, and the end result is similar, it might be easier to understand this request by looking at the source in edit mode:
Please change
to
I'd also like to make a correction - currently, the result isn't produced with the markup given. Thus, with both changes, the final result should be:
Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 00:44, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
This is a proposal to add a citation entry for BibLaTeX [1]. While BibLaTeX has backwards compatibility with BibTeX, there is a much more fitting entry for BibLaTeX which provides better styling and language adaptation in the final output. It looks like this (check source for templates/magic words):
@inreference{wiki:xxx, author = {Wikipedia contributors}, title = {MediaWiki talk:Citethispage-content}, booktitle = {Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia}, date = {2024-05-15}, urldate = {2024-05-15}, url = { https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MediaWiki_talk:Citethispage-content&oldid=1151506044}}
One example of how it looks once compiled in English, with the default BibLaTeX style and Biber:
@reference
is for a "work of reference such as an encyclopedia" and @inreference
is for "an article in a work of reference". booktitle
is a required field for @inreference
and is the name of the reference.
metarmask ( talk) 15:13, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
References
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Copy from User:Pppery/MediaWiki:citethispage-content (applying Special:Diff/949552933), to remove the transclusion of {{ pre}}, which is only semi-protected so shouldn't be used in the MediaWiki namespace. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I suggest to add Harvard style to Special:CiteThisPage ( [1]) Because it is a standard rule for citation and referencing. (Please ping me when you replied) Thanks! ⇒ Aram Talk 11:10, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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Replace two occurrences
wiki:xxx
by
enwiki:{{REVISIONID}}
Rationale:
wiki:xxx
is a unique identifier within the TeX document.Greetings PerfektesChaos ( talk) 13:32, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
{{REVISIONID}}
is already used within the system message in order to generate canonicalurl:
and enwiki:
is not a drastic change and such ID may consist at least of ASCII letters, colon and digits. --
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Please change the link after "Primary contributors:" to [[xtools:articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Revision history statistics]], which is Wikimedia hosted and maintained instead of hosted by someone personally. Dylsss( talk contribs) 20:14, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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According to the
MLA style guide access-date should be the last parameter. Currently this page outputs the url as the last parameter. The proposal is to move <citation>{{#time:j M. Y}}</citation>.
from the end to before Web.
Nthep (
talk) 18:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
<citation>{{#time:j M. Y}}</citation>.
produces today's date. When I made this change, the citation at the randomly chosen
Johnston's genet was:
{{canonicalurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|oldid={{REVISIONID}}}}.
instead of web.
(before the access-date).Something is wrong here. While the preview on
MediaWiki:Citethispage-content looks fine (except that there are visible "<citation>" tags around the "retrieved" date), actually using the "cite this page" functionality (e.g.
/info/en/?search=Special:CiteThisPage?page=Example) leads to the "retrieved" date/datetime appearing on lines of its own, which is probably not intended. (The two BibTeX entries even show broken <pre>
formatting.)
-- das-g ( talk) 10:05, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
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The bibtex version of citation in MediaWiki:Citethispage-content is inconsistent with the other citation examples. I agree that (in this case), the minority is wrong. "Wikipedia" is not a legal person, and even if there were some effort made to define Wikipedia as a legal person, it's rock-solid Wikipedians' and WMF's legal interpretation that the copyright is that of the authors, i.e. Wikipedians. (WMF is not Wikipedia :).)
So in the two bibtex entries, please change
author = "Wikipedia",
to
author = "Wikipedia contributors",
or
author = {Wikipedia contributors},
or
author = "{Wikipedia contributors}",
This should be uncontroversial, it seems to me. (I admit I haven't really checked what bibtex + LaTeX really prefer in terms of {} vs "" here... It's not the easiest thing to search for with a search engine.)
Regarding the existence of a space in the "family name", there are some authors of scientific articles whose "family name" (or main name) has two words separated by a space, e.g. Charles de Gaulle would be author = "{{de Gaulle}, C.}" or author = "{{de~Gaulle}, C.}" (or Ch. from a phonetic point of view). Boud ( talk) 22:10, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I've opened up a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Citing_Wikipedia#When_citing_Wikipedia,_why_not_cite_the_authors?_Why_cite_a_legally_non-existent_person_as_the_author? about citing the first few or the main authors. There's a tool under very recent development (it doesn't seem to be working well yet) mentioned in the discussion. The choice "Wikipedia contributors" responds to my immediate concern (Wikipedia is not the author of any Wikipedia pages - and User:Wikipedia is blocked :)), but I think the possibility of citing the first few or a few prominent authors - as self-identified - should be open to debate. So I'm not proposing any short-term change to the Special: page here. I'm just opening up the debate. (There would be a modest cpu cost to listing the first few authors; there would probably be a heavy cpu cost with the algorithm (javascript implementation) under development that estimates the most active contributors, and any alternative algorithm would presumably add either a cpu or a memory/caching load or both.) Boud ( talk) 22:10, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
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There seem to be two errors in the APA example:
So I propose replacing
{{FULLPAGENAME}}. ({{CURRENTYEAR}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}). In ...
by
{{SITENAME}} contributors. ({{CURRENTYEAR}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}). {{FULLPAGENAME}}. In ...
in the APA subsection. Boud ( talk) 21:45, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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Bibtex format interprets
author = "Wikipedia contributors"
as one author, with the first name "Wikipedia", and the last name "contributors". Additional curly brackets help:
author = "{{{SITENAME}} contributors}",
as they tell bibtex that "Wikipedia contributors" is a single, inseparable, unit. 129.206.61.28 ( talk) 14:41, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Fixed BibTeX entry section (additional curly braces to prevent bibtex from mis-interpreting 'Wikipedia' as first name and 'contributors' as last name) - I cannot test if the horrible mediawiki syntax is corrrect with the additional braces:
=== [[BibTeX]] entry === {{pre|1= @misc{ wiki:xxx, author = "{{(}}{{SITENAME}} contributors{{)}}", title = "{{FULLPAGENAME}} --- {{(}}{{SITENAME}}{{)}}{,} {{MediaWiki:Sitesubtitle}}", year = "{{CURRENTYEAR}}", url = "{{canonicalurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|oldid={{REVISIONID}}}}", note = "[Online; accessed <citation>{{#time:j-F-Y}}</citation>]" } }} When using the [[LaTeX]] package <code>url</code> (<code>\usepackage{url}</code> somewhere in the preamble), which tends to give much more nicely formatted web addresses, the following may be preferred: {{pre|1= @misc{ wiki:xxx, author = "{{(}}{{SITENAME}} contributors{{)}}", title = "{{FULLPAGENAME}} --- {{(}}{{SITENAME}}{{)}}{,} {{MediaWiki:Sitesubtitle}}", year = "{{CURRENTYEAR}}", howpublished = "\url{{(}}{{canonicalurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|oldid={{REVISIONID}}}}{{)}}", note = "[Online; accessed <citation>{{#time:j-F-Y}}</citation>]" } }}
I also fix the wrong \url
suggestion. That should go into the howpublished field only.
129.206.61.28 (
talk) 12:23, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
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In the "Wikipedia talk pages" section, I'd like to request that the format be changed from that of an external link to that of an intrawiki link. Since it involves nowiki tags, and the end result is similar, it might be easier to understand this request by looking at the source in edit mode:
Please change
to
I'd also like to make a correction - currently, the result isn't produced with the markup given. Thus, with both changes, the final result should be:
Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 00:44, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
This is a proposal to add a citation entry for BibLaTeX [1]. While BibLaTeX has backwards compatibility with BibTeX, there is a much more fitting entry for BibLaTeX which provides better styling and language adaptation in the final output. It looks like this (check source for templates/magic words):
@inreference{wiki:xxx, author = {Wikipedia contributors}, title = {MediaWiki talk:Citethispage-content}, booktitle = {Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia}, date = {2024-05-15}, urldate = {2024-05-15}, url = { https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MediaWiki_talk:Citethispage-content&oldid=1151506044}}
One example of how it looks once compiled in English, with the default BibLaTeX style and Biber:
@reference
is for a "work of reference such as an encyclopedia" and @inreference
is for "an article in a work of reference". booktitle
is a required field for @inreference
and is the name of the reference.
metarmask ( talk) 15:13, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
References
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Copy from User:Pppery/MediaWiki:citethispage-content (applying Special:Diff/949552933), to remove the transclusion of {{ pre}}, which is only semi-protected so shouldn't be used in the MediaWiki namespace. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I suggest to add Harvard style to Special:CiteThisPage ( [1]) Because it is a standard rule for citation and referencing. (Please ping me when you replied) Thanks! ⇒ Aram Talk 11:10, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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Replace two occurrences
wiki:xxx
by
enwiki:{{REVISIONID}}
Rationale:
wiki:xxx
is a unique identifier within the TeX document.Greetings PerfektesChaos ( talk) 13:32, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
{{REVISIONID}}
is already used within the system message in order to generate canonicalurl:
and enwiki:
is not a drastic change and such ID may consist at least of ASCII letters, colon and digits. --
PerfektesChaos (
talk) 20:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)This
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Please change the link after "Primary contributors:" to [[xtools:articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Revision history statistics]], which is Wikimedia hosted and maintained instead of hosted by someone personally. Dylsss( talk contribs) 20:14, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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According to the
MLA style guide access-date should be the last parameter. Currently this page outputs the url as the last parameter. The proposal is to move <citation>{{#time:j M. Y}}</citation>.
from the end to before Web.
Nthep (
talk) 18:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
<citation>{{#time:j M. Y}}</citation>.
produces today's date. When I made this change, the citation at the randomly chosen
Johnston's genet was:
{{canonicalurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|oldid={{REVISIONID}}}}.
instead of web.
(before the access-date).