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We need an article on the book itself, not just the style... possibly discussing the various editions and what changes were made in each, and also if there is a plan for the next (6th) edition. The article could be titled The Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. 2010 (UTC)
The article might need to be in one language... One section is in Spanish. Brady ( talk) 06:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Haven't even gotten further than the first couple paragraphs when I recognize there are many problems with this article , First of all, it lacks appreciation and understanding of info contained in the APA mission statement with regard to communications in science and how "rigor" in science reporting was far more importance than mere readability for laymen. Second, the articles uses third person rather than naming the names as to who of what entity made decisions and why -- If this Articledoes not nail down information contained in the APA archives accessible through the library of Congress that will be a grave oversight, In no way should the contributions of HELEN ORR be overlooked. there is a grievous problem with APA being a non profit organization and yet charging in some cases exorbitant fees through pay Info for a four page document on an R&D program that was funded by US taxpayers in the first place through National Science Foundation NSF -- Surely there should be no charge for general public access for materials relating to the historic NISP (National Information System for Psychology) program which became the whole trust of APA headquarters operation durin the years between 170 through 1974 at least can and will fact check dates myself. What occurred at the central office was controversial and unprecedented as Grant funding was under attack by so - called gatekeepers of scince" who were up in arms about the potential advent of a non refereed journal (an Experimental Publication SYstem (eps) -- will go on at a later time, but believe me the subsequent degradation that occurred in the APA pub manual was also a major source of embarrassment to APA -- subsequent to Helen's retirement at age 65. This article is imo an important story about the role of women in American history Facts should be provided re who made what inputs how Helen worked with Heads of Luck loft Departments generally, who were serving as Journal Editors to generate the APA publications manual in the first place. if it doesn't go without saying there just absolutely has to be a,Wikipedia page for Helen Or -- she gave her life to APA and had not made more than $25 k per year by the time the NISP program was initiated -- given the scope and importance and impact of her work an extremely low wage even then ( in 1969 tech eds earned aboutv7 k per year ( can also fact check that There should probably be a different linked article to APA normal Program so that APA style works along with that -- I am already beginning to draft a Helen Orr page for Wikipedia -- wish I had done all this sooner in my life because I have end stage C9pD and have the sense that if I don't personally do this, much will be most to history that shouldn't bebl
APA journal program and the fact that there were no male technical editors and no opportunity for female technical editors to rise to any position of higher pay grade unless they possessed a phd. There were also issues of sexual harassment on the joob, as APA members and Journal editors attended cocktail parties with female staff and some apparently thought they had rightvtovtake liberties v with female staff during time spentin Nation's capitol away from wives at home, Helen Orr received all such complaints, as did Herald P Van Cott Director of Office of Communications Management and Developmen, who filled in temporarily for Helen, until her "replacement" could be hired Helen Orp suceeded by Anita DeVivo in about 1972 [I am quite capable of doing my own fact checking on the date and specifics I have mentioned here.] Anderkin123 ( talk) 12:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Do we have examples to show, as The MLA style manual article does? ~ RoboAction 07:59, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I can't seem to find in the manual how to format in-text URLs. Does anyone know how to do this? Gary 17:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Wow I am rushed for time and making typos deviating v from APA style myself ha just for the helluvit in trying ro communicate a lot quickly but I trust others can extract from what I wrote before a punchy, crunchy list of suggested imrovements, perceived need. I like what*s already beensaid about letting the editions of style manual speak for themselves -- must acknowledge the pub manual edition that was such a model of incompetence -- read about it at the time in external sources, whereas in my day, at APA, the Pub manual had stellar reputation and "we girls" knew that and we new that, painstakingly following it and havingvweeklyvmeetingvascthoughbin acsororityvto makechusingvstylecsheets in ourvownbworkbgenerated from ourvmeetingvp, Helen coordinatinfvwith copsubstantiveccontentveditors , thexwholevprocess ofcwhat whpwentbon to produce to -- when all proofreading reading was done by hand -- journals were printer by Lancaster Press in PA -- the markup process etc, so much info could be captured in meaningful way showing how technology changed under our eyes . The advent of IBM selective typewriters the encoding of machine readable. records of Psych Abstracts all the ads and brochures see "times are changing and with them information products and services offered by the APA". I personally wrote some copy appearing over signature of APA Executive OfficerbKenneth Little promoting Journal Supplement Abstract Service in that era and retained copies of ads and technical reports frombthatvtime, which I definitely vibrant to upload to Commons
Anderkin123 ( talk) 12:58, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
This is obviously important since this is an online encyclopedia. The format is not to be found on owl.english.purdue.edu, and not here. Someone put it on!
et al. is an abbreviation of "et alii", so it should have the period, right? I'm not sure what the APA style says about this, though.
Yes, I'm sure that "et al." followed by a dot. However, DO NOT use italic. -- Pbice 00:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
This article really needs a good solid explanation of how to handle wikipedia articles. This thing is the world's fastest-growing and most comprehensive single source of information.
This also needs a style for DVDs and Video Cassettes
The style strikes many authors as imperfect. It forbids authors to number their section headings, a common practice in science journals that permits cross referencing. APA style also requires cited authors to be identified just by their initials, as in "J. A. Smith" rather than "Joan A. Smith", making it hard for readers to look up references. The Manual is long and forces scholars to spend many hours trying to conform to its prescriptions. Finally, APA style is established by a small, unelected editorial committee, who offer users no way to request changes. A further issue with APA style is that it supports an extremely wide variation of in-text citation styles, so reference management software (e.g., bibtex, Endnote) may not conform perfectly to APA style. --This is unsourced and sounds very editorial.-- Tznkai 21:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
This article was recently given a Wikify tag, but in comparison to most such tagged articles this one is in good shape, I suggest removing this tag, which I will do in a day or two unless I get negative comment. The tag was added by an Anon with almost no edit history on his IP address, but who knows if that is complete..... SailorfromNH Talk - Contrib 00:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I just had to congratulate whomever's idea it was for the titles of those articles... I was glancing through and saw Kramer, C. ... very clever, and a nice touch, I thought. Narnia and Detroit, perpetual foes?
Anyway, just thought I'd congratulate everyone, it's touches like these that make reading Wikipedia a joy. -- Jackson 02:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thinks it's wacky that a page on a form of standard formatting has a tag saying it needs just that?
Does anyone know of a program that converts wikipedia "cite journal" links into APA style links?
Does anyone know of a program that converts APA style links to wikipedia "cite journal" links?
Example:
Johnston, G. (2006, August). Anti-Americanism: An Exploration of a Contested Concept in Western Europe. The Department of Political Science, Louisiana State University. Retrieved October 1, 2006, from etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-05102006-104506/unrestricted/Johnston_dis.pdf.
Converts into:
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Or, alternatively:
Converts into: Johnston, G. (2006, August). Anti-Americanism: An Exploration of a Contested Concept in Western Europe. The Department of Political Science, Louisiana State University. Retrieved October 1, 2006, from etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-05102006-104506/unrestricted/Johnston_dis.pdf. |
Thanks in advance. RWV 16:35, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know where to find what specific changes made to APA Style recently? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.87.200.220 ( talk) 16:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC).
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 06:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I have a question... does anyone else feel that this article violates the "what wikipedia is not" in the sense of it reads like a "How-to."
Thanks
V. Joe ( talk) 19:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the
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template after adding a short introduction about the use of heading. Of course, this is just to describe what heading are and not to explain how to. The APA Manual is used for actual reference in how to use heading in an APA manuscript. Legohead1 ( talk) 15:33, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
I recently attempted to have college papers published in Grin. The respectfully decline to accept APA style citations because APA on authored books do not require a page number. I am assuming that reason for the disuse of the Ibid and Op cit style of publication was for convenience. I am assuming the professors that require this style have good intentions. However, the rules the professors abide by are akin to that of the NCAA towards professionalism in college sports. Only there is no professional league for the academic student to attempt to reconstitute after a lifetime of dedication to learning.
Direct quotation from Grin Publication: "At some quotations the page numbers about the quoted sources are missing (like f. ex.: Clark, T. J. (1999), Grady, R. B. (1996) Pfleeger, S. L. (2001) aso.)
At much information it is not obvious where the presented findings are derived from. However, the exact identification of the sources one wins information from is imperatively at academic research and writing.
Unfortunately, a reference at the end of the work within a bibliography and without the exact page numbers does not satisfy copyright claims.
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Since the sixth edition was published in July and contains many changes, is anyone here insisting that descriptions of the fifth edition rules continue? I suggest the fifth edition rules be replaced with the corrected sixth edition. Skywriter ( talk) 13:57, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
As it is right now, the article is not so much an article about APA style as it is a gigantic bitch- piss- and kvetch-fest about errors in the most recent edition of the APA style guide. The article is in desperate need of a good introduction, a thorough discussion of APA style itself, and THEN a criticism section (if not a link to a separate criticism article). I really really want to like Wikipedia, but it's exactly this kind of poorly-organized unevenly-edited excuse for content that makes Wikipedia seem less like an encyclopedia and more like a turd with a thin veneer of competence. Stromcarlson ( talk) 09:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, Stromcarlson, for sharing your rant that is not at all helpful. Editors, writers and scholars most interested in APA Style will be most interested in the sixth edition. APA took a giant hit with its latest stylebook and, contrary to your claims, the information presented about the sixth edition ought not be buried at the end of the article. This is not a criticism of APA style. It is an encyclopedic guide to consumer aspects of that agency's most current style book and how to get around its errors. For anyone writing a thesis, a book, or an article for a journal that requires APA style, 6th edition, the information at the top of this page is exactly what is needed to make an informed choice on how to buy a version of the style guide that is not riddled with error. This information is not easy to come by--APA does not make it easy to come by as this information is now buried in several places on its blog. If I had not been editing a doctoral dissertation that requires the application of APA style, I would not have known of the pitfalls in the current edition. The value of this information is not as presented in your vulgar explosion but in the items that aid researchers in coming to terms with the problems of a poorly published style book. This is not my opinion. The facts about the sixth edition are properly documented and voiced by scholars. The information regarding fifth edition should be modified to reflect the many changes over the fifth edition. Perhaps Stromcarlson, unless you are simply blowing hot air, you will make a positive contribution such as adding to the article by describing APA sixth edition style and the changes in this edition. Skywriter ( talk) 00:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
It's been more than a month and no one has commented to suggestion that article be updated to reflect changes from the 5th to 6th edition. Meanwhile, I have read WP:NOTHOWTO and believe it applies here. Does anyone object to the removal of the how-to directions for the 5th edition manual? I don't want to blank all those sections without hearing what you have to say. Please advise. Skywriter ( talk) 03:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
They should only have been removed if you were replacing them with the new ones, otherwise the article is only about the manual and its publication and actually has nothing to do with the style itself, which was an all too prominent aspect of the article as it was. Valethar ( talk) 13:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Fifth edition directions restored until sixth edition directions are provided as a replacement.
Valethar (
talk) 13:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps you will say how inclusion of the old set of how-to rules reflects WP:NOTHOWTO, which states that Wikipedia is not a how-to manual? Skywriter ( talk) 18:49, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, misunderstood why you deleted them. I think the information is all necessary, but maybe the examples are not. Without the information it ceases to become about the style though, so good midground needs to be found. Valethar ( talk) 13:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Edits to this article are apparently being made by an APA employee with access to APA internal documents. The changes that were made caused this article to sound like a public relations response and not a Wikipedia article. The article was then edited with references to APA's internal documents removed. Those edits were reverted. Links critical of APA's handling of errors in the 6th edition were deleted; adjectives and adverbs and other excess verbiage were added to put a positive spin on APA's handling of this matter, despite public criticisms which were censored in this article.
Changes to this article should reflect Wikipedia guidelines for style and no free advertising. This means that editors must be aware that articles can not appear to be written by personnel of a public relations department or firm. It also means that critical viewpoints can not be censored.
The link to this article, written by a North Carolina librarian, was inappropriately deleted. [2] It will be reinstated. Please do not remove it again.
Skywriter ( talk) 19:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
This article is in urgent need of cleanup. As it stands, it is now mostly a manual on how to follow the APA style, which is exactly what WP is not. -- Crusio ( talk) 17:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
I believe we have some disagreement about the WP:Not and the utility of this page. It looks like there was a previous discussion a couple years ago that did not end in consensus. Let us reopen that discussion here and see if a consensus is reached. Until such time the info should be left up so it can be evaluated. Either way I will abide by it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avalongod ( talk • contribs) 05:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Link I added was removed: "If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it" Well, here I am. I still think a link to my site is warranted, given that is it the only current (2012) web site that combines a citation generator and a scholarly discussion forum on the topic of styles, e.g. APA. Sincerely, Kent Loffy ( talk) 12:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
The notes and references for this article should exemplify the APA style format conventions. For example, APA style specifies that article dates should be given with the year first, then a comma, followed by the English month name and then day, for example: Smith, John (2013, April 1). The title of some article. <other information>. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.149.72.128 ( talk) 17:27, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
The citation to this document--APA Publication Manual Task Force (June 1977). "Guidelines for nonsexist language in APA journals [Change Sheet 2]". American Psychologist. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association. 30 (6): 682–684. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.32.6.487. ISSN 0003-066X. OCLC 696450842. Retrieved October 27, 2011.--lists the wrong volume (it's 32) and the wrong page numbers (they're 487-494). I tried to change them but my changes seem not to work. The citation link goes to the correct citation, which shows the text here is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronny8 ( talk • contribs) 14:05, 18 May 2017 (UTC) Ron Foster 13:36, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Ronny8
This should move to Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association or perhaps APA Publication Manual, to follow typical short usage, and be rescoped to cover the work, with the style stuff it recommends as a subtopic, along with publication history, etc., the way we treat AMA Manual of Style, MLA Style Manual, The Chicago Manual of Style, New Hart's Rules, etc. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼
The phrase "APA Style is complex" in this section does not figure in any of the two cited sources. Amara-Amaziɣ ( talk) 02:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Many people and institutions have accepted the APA guides, but what, beyond popularity, justifies their existence? I've found several post hoc rationales. The one by Madigan, Johnson, and Linton is perhaps a best-of-breed: The language of psychology: APA style as epistemology
Were there ever any published objectives that drove the development of these guides? Let alone a path from objectives to requirements analysis to published guides?
Page Notes ( talk) 19:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
The format 41.59.81.19 ( talk) 00:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
APA mission statement
should use more first person statements than third person which obscures actor, making it seem as though things just mysteriously appear and the organization gets sorta nonomically "involved" ? Needs better diction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anderkin123 ( talk • contribs) 14:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
This article notes that APA style is utilized by medical journals which is not true. Peer reviewed medical journals almost exclusively use Vancouver style. See Vancouver system and ICMJE recommendations. 216.243.32.50 ( talk) 03:07, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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We need an article on the book itself, not just the style... possibly discussing the various editions and what changes were made in each, and also if there is a plan for the next (6th) edition. The article could be titled The Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. 2010 (UTC)
The article might need to be in one language... One section is in Spanish. Brady ( talk) 06:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Haven't even gotten further than the first couple paragraphs when I recognize there are many problems with this article , First of all, it lacks appreciation and understanding of info contained in the APA mission statement with regard to communications in science and how "rigor" in science reporting was far more importance than mere readability for laymen. Second, the articles uses third person rather than naming the names as to who of what entity made decisions and why -- If this Articledoes not nail down information contained in the APA archives accessible through the library of Congress that will be a grave oversight, In no way should the contributions of HELEN ORR be overlooked. there is a grievous problem with APA being a non profit organization and yet charging in some cases exorbitant fees through pay Info for a four page document on an R&D program that was funded by US taxpayers in the first place through National Science Foundation NSF -- Surely there should be no charge for general public access for materials relating to the historic NISP (National Information System for Psychology) program which became the whole trust of APA headquarters operation durin the years between 170 through 1974 at least can and will fact check dates myself. What occurred at the central office was controversial and unprecedented as Grant funding was under attack by so - called gatekeepers of scince" who were up in arms about the potential advent of a non refereed journal (an Experimental Publication SYstem (eps) -- will go on at a later time, but believe me the subsequent degradation that occurred in the APA pub manual was also a major source of embarrassment to APA -- subsequent to Helen's retirement at age 65. This article is imo an important story about the role of women in American history Facts should be provided re who made what inputs how Helen worked with Heads of Luck loft Departments generally, who were serving as Journal Editors to generate the APA publications manual in the first place. if it doesn't go without saying there just absolutely has to be a,Wikipedia page for Helen Or -- she gave her life to APA and had not made more than $25 k per year by the time the NISP program was initiated -- given the scope and importance and impact of her work an extremely low wage even then ( in 1969 tech eds earned aboutv7 k per year ( can also fact check that There should probably be a different linked article to APA normal Program so that APA style works along with that -- I am already beginning to draft a Helen Orr page for Wikipedia -- wish I had done all this sooner in my life because I have end stage C9pD and have the sense that if I don't personally do this, much will be most to history that shouldn't bebl
APA journal program and the fact that there were no male technical editors and no opportunity for female technical editors to rise to any position of higher pay grade unless they possessed a phd. There were also issues of sexual harassment on the joob, as APA members and Journal editors attended cocktail parties with female staff and some apparently thought they had rightvtovtake liberties v with female staff during time spentin Nation's capitol away from wives at home, Helen Orr received all such complaints, as did Herald P Van Cott Director of Office of Communications Management and Developmen, who filled in temporarily for Helen, until her "replacement" could be hired Helen Orp suceeded by Anita DeVivo in about 1972 [I am quite capable of doing my own fact checking on the date and specifics I have mentioned here.] Anderkin123 ( talk) 12:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Do we have examples to show, as The MLA style manual article does? ~ RoboAction 07:59, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I can't seem to find in the manual how to format in-text URLs. Does anyone know how to do this? Gary 17:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Wow I am rushed for time and making typos deviating v from APA style myself ha just for the helluvit in trying ro communicate a lot quickly but I trust others can extract from what I wrote before a punchy, crunchy list of suggested imrovements, perceived need. I like what*s already beensaid about letting the editions of style manual speak for themselves -- must acknowledge the pub manual edition that was such a model of incompetence -- read about it at the time in external sources, whereas in my day, at APA, the Pub manual had stellar reputation and "we girls" knew that and we new that, painstakingly following it and havingvweeklyvmeetingvascthoughbin acsororityvto makechusingvstylecsheets in ourvownbworkbgenerated from ourvmeetingvp, Helen coordinatinfvwith copsubstantiveccontentveditors , thexwholevprocess ofcwhat whpwentbon to produce to -- when all proofreading reading was done by hand -- journals were printer by Lancaster Press in PA -- the markup process etc, so much info could be captured in meaningful way showing how technology changed under our eyes . The advent of IBM selective typewriters the encoding of machine readable. records of Psych Abstracts all the ads and brochures see "times are changing and with them information products and services offered by the APA". I personally wrote some copy appearing over signature of APA Executive OfficerbKenneth Little promoting Journal Supplement Abstract Service in that era and retained copies of ads and technical reports frombthatvtime, which I definitely vibrant to upload to Commons
Anderkin123 ( talk) 12:58, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
This is obviously important since this is an online encyclopedia. The format is not to be found on owl.english.purdue.edu, and not here. Someone put it on!
et al. is an abbreviation of "et alii", so it should have the period, right? I'm not sure what the APA style says about this, though.
Yes, I'm sure that "et al." followed by a dot. However, DO NOT use italic. -- Pbice 00:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
This article really needs a good solid explanation of how to handle wikipedia articles. This thing is the world's fastest-growing and most comprehensive single source of information.
This also needs a style for DVDs and Video Cassettes
The style strikes many authors as imperfect. It forbids authors to number their section headings, a common practice in science journals that permits cross referencing. APA style also requires cited authors to be identified just by their initials, as in "J. A. Smith" rather than "Joan A. Smith", making it hard for readers to look up references. The Manual is long and forces scholars to spend many hours trying to conform to its prescriptions. Finally, APA style is established by a small, unelected editorial committee, who offer users no way to request changes. A further issue with APA style is that it supports an extremely wide variation of in-text citation styles, so reference management software (e.g., bibtex, Endnote) may not conform perfectly to APA style. --This is unsourced and sounds very editorial.-- Tznkai 21:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
This article was recently given a Wikify tag, but in comparison to most such tagged articles this one is in good shape, I suggest removing this tag, which I will do in a day or two unless I get negative comment. The tag was added by an Anon with almost no edit history on his IP address, but who knows if that is complete..... SailorfromNH Talk - Contrib 00:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I just had to congratulate whomever's idea it was for the titles of those articles... I was glancing through and saw Kramer, C. ... very clever, and a nice touch, I thought. Narnia and Detroit, perpetual foes?
Anyway, just thought I'd congratulate everyone, it's touches like these that make reading Wikipedia a joy. -- Jackson 02:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thinks it's wacky that a page on a form of standard formatting has a tag saying it needs just that?
Does anyone know of a program that converts wikipedia "cite journal" links into APA style links?
Does anyone know of a program that converts APA style links to wikipedia "cite journal" links?
Example:
Johnston, G. (2006, August). Anti-Americanism: An Exploration of a Contested Concept in Western Europe. The Department of Political Science, Louisiana State University. Retrieved October 1, 2006, from etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-05102006-104506/unrestricted/Johnston_dis.pdf.
Converts into:
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Or, alternatively:
Converts into: Johnston, G. (2006, August). Anti-Americanism: An Exploration of a Contested Concept in Western Europe. The Department of Political Science, Louisiana State University. Retrieved October 1, 2006, from etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-05102006-104506/unrestricted/Johnston_dis.pdf. |
Thanks in advance. RWV 16:35, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know where to find what specific changes made to APA Style recently? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.87.200.220 ( talk) 16:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC).
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 06:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I have a question... does anyone else feel that this article violates the "what wikipedia is not" in the sense of it reads like a "How-to."
Thanks
V. Joe ( talk) 19:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the
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template after adding a short introduction about the use of heading. Of course, this is just to describe what heading are and not to explain how to. The APA Manual is used for actual reference in how to use heading in an APA manuscript. Legohead1 ( talk) 15:33, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
I recently attempted to have college papers published in Grin. The respectfully decline to accept APA style citations because APA on authored books do not require a page number. I am assuming that reason for the disuse of the Ibid and Op cit style of publication was for convenience. I am assuming the professors that require this style have good intentions. However, the rules the professors abide by are akin to that of the NCAA towards professionalism in college sports. Only there is no professional league for the academic student to attempt to reconstitute after a lifetime of dedication to learning.
Direct quotation from Grin Publication: "At some quotations the page numbers about the quoted sources are missing (like f. ex.: Clark, T. J. (1999), Grady, R. B. (1996) Pfleeger, S. L. (2001) aso.)
At much information it is not obvious where the presented findings are derived from. However, the exact identification of the sources one wins information from is imperatively at academic research and writing.
Unfortunately, a reference at the end of the work within a bibliography and without the exact page numbers does not satisfy copyright claims.
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Since the sixth edition was published in July and contains many changes, is anyone here insisting that descriptions of the fifth edition rules continue? I suggest the fifth edition rules be replaced with the corrected sixth edition. Skywriter ( talk) 13:57, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
As it is right now, the article is not so much an article about APA style as it is a gigantic bitch- piss- and kvetch-fest about errors in the most recent edition of the APA style guide. The article is in desperate need of a good introduction, a thorough discussion of APA style itself, and THEN a criticism section (if not a link to a separate criticism article). I really really want to like Wikipedia, but it's exactly this kind of poorly-organized unevenly-edited excuse for content that makes Wikipedia seem less like an encyclopedia and more like a turd with a thin veneer of competence. Stromcarlson ( talk) 09:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, Stromcarlson, for sharing your rant that is not at all helpful. Editors, writers and scholars most interested in APA Style will be most interested in the sixth edition. APA took a giant hit with its latest stylebook and, contrary to your claims, the information presented about the sixth edition ought not be buried at the end of the article. This is not a criticism of APA style. It is an encyclopedic guide to consumer aspects of that agency's most current style book and how to get around its errors. For anyone writing a thesis, a book, or an article for a journal that requires APA style, 6th edition, the information at the top of this page is exactly what is needed to make an informed choice on how to buy a version of the style guide that is not riddled with error. This information is not easy to come by--APA does not make it easy to come by as this information is now buried in several places on its blog. If I had not been editing a doctoral dissertation that requires the application of APA style, I would not have known of the pitfalls in the current edition. The value of this information is not as presented in your vulgar explosion but in the items that aid researchers in coming to terms with the problems of a poorly published style book. This is not my opinion. The facts about the sixth edition are properly documented and voiced by scholars. The information regarding fifth edition should be modified to reflect the many changes over the fifth edition. Perhaps Stromcarlson, unless you are simply blowing hot air, you will make a positive contribution such as adding to the article by describing APA sixth edition style and the changes in this edition. Skywriter ( talk) 00:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
It's been more than a month and no one has commented to suggestion that article be updated to reflect changes from the 5th to 6th edition. Meanwhile, I have read WP:NOTHOWTO and believe it applies here. Does anyone object to the removal of the how-to directions for the 5th edition manual? I don't want to blank all those sections without hearing what you have to say. Please advise. Skywriter ( talk) 03:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
They should only have been removed if you were replacing them with the new ones, otherwise the article is only about the manual and its publication and actually has nothing to do with the style itself, which was an all too prominent aspect of the article as it was. Valethar ( talk) 13:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Fifth edition directions restored until sixth edition directions are provided as a replacement.
Valethar (
talk) 13:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps you will say how inclusion of the old set of how-to rules reflects WP:NOTHOWTO, which states that Wikipedia is not a how-to manual? Skywriter ( talk) 18:49, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, misunderstood why you deleted them. I think the information is all necessary, but maybe the examples are not. Without the information it ceases to become about the style though, so good midground needs to be found. Valethar ( talk) 13:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Edits to this article are apparently being made by an APA employee with access to APA internal documents. The changes that were made caused this article to sound like a public relations response and not a Wikipedia article. The article was then edited with references to APA's internal documents removed. Those edits were reverted. Links critical of APA's handling of errors in the 6th edition were deleted; adjectives and adverbs and other excess verbiage were added to put a positive spin on APA's handling of this matter, despite public criticisms which were censored in this article.
Changes to this article should reflect Wikipedia guidelines for style and no free advertising. This means that editors must be aware that articles can not appear to be written by personnel of a public relations department or firm. It also means that critical viewpoints can not be censored.
The link to this article, written by a North Carolina librarian, was inappropriately deleted. [2] It will be reinstated. Please do not remove it again.
Skywriter ( talk) 19:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
This article is in urgent need of cleanup. As it stands, it is now mostly a manual on how to follow the APA style, which is exactly what WP is not. -- Crusio ( talk) 17:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
I believe we have some disagreement about the WP:Not and the utility of this page. It looks like there was a previous discussion a couple years ago that did not end in consensus. Let us reopen that discussion here and see if a consensus is reached. Until such time the info should be left up so it can be evaluated. Either way I will abide by it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avalongod ( talk • contribs) 05:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Link I added was removed: "If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it" Well, here I am. I still think a link to my site is warranted, given that is it the only current (2012) web site that combines a citation generator and a scholarly discussion forum on the topic of styles, e.g. APA. Sincerely, Kent Loffy ( talk) 12:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
The notes and references for this article should exemplify the APA style format conventions. For example, APA style specifies that article dates should be given with the year first, then a comma, followed by the English month name and then day, for example: Smith, John (2013, April 1). The title of some article. <other information>. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.149.72.128 ( talk) 17:27, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
The citation to this document--APA Publication Manual Task Force (June 1977). "Guidelines for nonsexist language in APA journals [Change Sheet 2]". American Psychologist. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association. 30 (6): 682–684. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.32.6.487. ISSN 0003-066X. OCLC 696450842. Retrieved October 27, 2011.--lists the wrong volume (it's 32) and the wrong page numbers (they're 487-494). I tried to change them but my changes seem not to work. The citation link goes to the correct citation, which shows the text here is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronny8 ( talk • contribs) 14:05, 18 May 2017 (UTC) Ron Foster 13:36, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Ronny8
This should move to Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association or perhaps APA Publication Manual, to follow typical short usage, and be rescoped to cover the work, with the style stuff it recommends as a subtopic, along with publication history, etc., the way we treat AMA Manual of Style, MLA Style Manual, The Chicago Manual of Style, New Hart's Rules, etc. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼
The phrase "APA Style is complex" in this section does not figure in any of the two cited sources. Amara-Amaziɣ ( talk) 02:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Many people and institutions have accepted the APA guides, but what, beyond popularity, justifies their existence? I've found several post hoc rationales. The one by Madigan, Johnson, and Linton is perhaps a best-of-breed: The language of psychology: APA style as epistemology
Were there ever any published objectives that drove the development of these guides? Let alone a path from objectives to requirements analysis to published guides?
Page Notes ( talk) 19:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
The format 41.59.81.19 ( talk) 00:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
APA mission statement
should use more first person statements than third person which obscures actor, making it seem as though things just mysteriously appear and the organization gets sorta nonomically "involved" ? Needs better diction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anderkin123 ( talk • contribs) 14:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
This article notes that APA style is utilized by medical journals which is not true. Peer reviewed medical journals almost exclusively use Vancouver style. See Vancouver system and ICMJE recommendations. 216.243.32.50 ( talk) 03:07, 5 August 2023 (UTC)