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This article targets people who are not going to have any idea what the word "transclusion" means. I'm a computer scientist and I had to look it up again to be sure what it meant. Its use on this page is not even correct (not that most readers will know that). The statement that "The "Transclusion" icon (a puzzle piece) allows you to edit templates" is, I think, just wrong. You click on the puzzle piece to edit information contained in template parameters. This is not the same as editing the template itself. The transclusion icon has at least three different uses depending on where you encounter it. Under reference content it allows you to import templates (it says it is allowing you to ADD templates, but that's not exactly the same). If you encounter it when editing a reference, it allows you to edit data contained in a template. Finally if you click the puzzle piece when you are editing a non-template reference, it seems to have no discernible purpose.
I would edit the tutorial but the real problem is bigger than the word transclusion; the problem is that a single icon with opaque name is used to do substantially different things, none of them exactly what the tutorial suggests. Camdenmaine ( talk) 01:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Is it possible to opt out VisualEditor? If so, it should be explained in the user guide. -- Custoo ( talk) 23:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
The VisEd link instruction workflow shows no obvious way to specify a link URL, whether internal Wiki or external. If there is a way (and there obviously must be...) then it should be added to the example in the instruction flow. I tried to use the VisEd procedure to make a correction on the Blue Moon beer info. page and gave up...see my comments on that page. -- Webbie
I can see the "edit source" tab but not the tab for VisualEditor :-( TINY MARK 09:34, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Searching for images via VE does not only work on Commons, but also includes the local Wikipedia's files (simple test: search for a local non-free file under fair-use) - atleast it does on en-Wiki, assuming other Wikis behave similar. Yesterday's newsletter DYK had the same small error :).. GermanJoe ( talk) 11:05, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I see no information in the user guide about how to do a piped link. Such links are very common in Wikipedia articles; it would be great to know how to do this in VE, or, if it's not yet possible, then a note saying not to even try. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:46, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
It looks very out of place at the bottom of the article. -- 64.4.68.234 ( talk) 15:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
On my screen, the formatting section, which the text illustrates with the word paragraph is nothing but a large empty rectangle (with no coloration and a near invisible border) with a small triangle. Kdammers ( talk) 06:43, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
This was the only part I could find that contained the word paragraph. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 20:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
So when you open VisualEditor, you see the toolbar like this:
except that the space that's supposed to say "Paragraph" (or whatever the formatting is for that line) is blank. Is that also true when you put your cursor in the middle of a section heading? What web browser are you using? Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 18:40, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
I agree with User:Fram that the lead needs clarification about the state of VisualEditor and about how to access the older Wikitext option. (I'm checking on necessary updates.) -- Maggie Dennis (WMF) ( talk) 12:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the paragraph about the RFC becuase it's off-topic and has no practical effect. It feels a bit like someone changing WP:FIRST to say "Here's instructions on how to create your first article. By the way, most of us senior editors don't want you to be able to do this." However, if the RFC were ever implemented, then I would support the inclusion of information to the effect that a bunch of editors decided that abunch of other editors weren't able to use VisualEditor, because that does have practical information (namely, that the second group of editors needs to go read a different help page). Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 15:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
The user-guide says "To delete an image or media file, select it, and then press delete or ← Backspace." A few months ago that certainly worked, however that doesnt work when I try that now, on Linux/monobook/Firefox&Chrome and Windows/vector/Firefox&Safari. Control-X works on both platforms. Likewise pressing delete or backspace on references & templates also doesn't work. Is that an intentional change? If so, the guide needs updating. John Vandenberg ( chat) 07:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
The guide doesn't seem to explain how to add a new line to a bulleted or numbered list with-out either adding a new bullet (or number) or indenting. I tried to do it, but the only thing that got accepted was really messed up (so I used source editing). In other words, how do I do the equivalent of putting in ":" under a bullet? Kdammers ( talk) 10:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
The User guide says that it takes a "few seconds" for the VE to open. I find that it takes more like a minute, even for a short article. I use Chrome which is a supported browser, they say, with the vector skin. What am I doing wrong? I've never managed to make an edit in VE. Thanks, Soranoch ( talk) 22:39, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
As I noted else-where, the word "Paragraph" does not display until some action is taken: The screen shot shown here is not what I see when I first go to edit beta. Kdammers ( talk) 09:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I have been able to find out what happened (and happens!) with the "Bold" and "Italic": it depends on where the (invisible) cursor stands when you open the page. So in Social Democratic Party (Moldova), you get nothing, in Allister, West Virginia, you get a box around the "Bold" icon, and in Anveshanam, both the bold and italic symbols are boxed.
Similarly, in Mrs. Bob Cratchit's Wild Christmas Binge, I get the "Paragraph" visible, but in Manja, Madagascar, I don't. Fram ( talk) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
How is a redirect made in VE?
The introduction says that in order to opt-in for the VisualEditor, you must go to your preferences, with a link to Preferences->Editing. However, there is no opt-in option here. I had to go to Preferences->Beta features to find the opt-in option. Is this just me? Jaardon ( talk) 18:59, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
The documentation for Editing images and other media files says "Once inserted.... You can resize it using the handles at its corners." I question whether resizing should be supported in the VE UI. If it is, then surely the docs should mention that normally images should not be resized manually, to reduce the potential for conflict when more experienced editors revert the size changes? - Pointillist ( talk) 00:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
An idea. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:50, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Am happy to see a Cite menu with categories for Website, Book, Newspaper and Journal. To my mind, this is a big step in making VE a viable replacement for the source editor. Is the feature documented somewhere? Barte ( talk) 01:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
The Cite instructions are out-of-date, so I boldly fixed them but got reverted. Could someone with more experience than me update them? Thanks! Nicolas1981 ( talk) 06:52, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
The National Library of Australia provides Wikipedia-format citations (as well as other formats) for everything in the catalogue including millions of books, journal articles, digitised newspaper articles, pictures etc. E.g. for this digitised newspaper article, you get this citation:
{{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16680964 |title=CARNEGIE CLARK RETIRES. |newspaper=[[Sydney_morning_herald|The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)]] |location=NSW |date=28 May 1930 |accessdate=8 May 2015 |page=17 |publisher=National Library of Australia}}
However, I cannot work out how to enter these using the Visual Editor because when I use the "Cite basic form" it wraps the pasted text with nowiki tags with no apparent way to disable that behaviour. Take a look at the last citation in the Carnegie Clark article to see my problem.
I am planning to teach 2 groups of Australian librarians the VE next month but if I can't solve the problem of how to cite resources in Australian libraries, I'll have to keep teaching the source editor.
Thanks. Kerry ( talk) 21:45, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
The user guide says to click "edit beta" and also has screenshots saying "edit beta", but the interface no longer includes "beta".
Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide#First step: opt in says "you can still use VisualEditor by adding ?veaction=edit
to the end of a Wikipedia page URL." I suggest mentioning you can click the normal edit tab first and then change ?action=edit
to ?veaction=edit
.
PrimeHunter (
talk)
01:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I found these two stray bits in my notes; I think they were 'lost' during the recent updates:
Tablet users can use VisualEditor on the mobile version of Wikipedia. While editing a page, click on the cog in the top-right corner of your screen and select
Edit
.
Clicking on the "Edit source" tab will open the classic wikitext source editor.
I can't decide if they're important enough to include again (although the image is out of date). Also, User:John Broughton (and anyone else who's interested): Do you think that we should add information about VisualEditor on mobile devices? The toolbar is smaller/fewer features, and the button has a different icon. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 23:32, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Is there any interest in the community for creating a step-by-step tutorial along the same lines as Wikipedia:Tutorial? It would be good for new users to be taught how to use this interface before they learn markup. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo) talk 10:59, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I've made a basic Help:Introduction_to_editing_(VE) page! I aim eventually to do one for references, tables, images and templates. Please let me know what you think. Any improvements and suggestions are welcome. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo) talk 11:16, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
I've just updated Help:Referencing for beginners#Using VisualEditor, which has reminded me that c:User:Neil P. Quinn-WMF/Visual editor has some interesting animated gifs. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 19:54, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
{{
intro to}}
page?
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)
talk
05:04, 21 November 2015 (UTC){{
intro to box}}
, that might be useful for transcluding into other help pages.
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)
talk
12:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)I have updated a few pages with the new intros ...pls add more as need be....still need to add PDFs to Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia#External links....
{{
intro to box}}
Hello, I looked but can't see the information? Iamnotacylon ( talk) 18:03, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm editing a coord template in Visual Editor, changing the "dim" parameter, which will make a change in the external link that is offered when the page is rendered. I like the way the template editor facilitates changing the template. But I can't test my changes before I save, since I can't find a way to get the page actually rendered into a preview of the actual page. Or I can't find a way to click on the coord entry and follow the link that will be generated, rather than just editing the coord template parameters again. Please provide a way to test clicking on the link rendered by this and other templates. If that is too hard, please explain in the interactive help what the best way to test is (changing to "edit source" with "keep changes" and "Show Preview"?). And then add a way to switch straight to the "show preview" option in Edit Source without having to remember to "keep changes"..... ★NealMcB★ ( talk) 15:35, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Now that en.wiki has moved over to using a single edit tab, the images on how to access VE will need to be updated. Are there any screenshots already in the commons or do new ones have to be made? Help:Introduction_to_editing_with_VisualEditor will need to be updated too. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo) talk 12:45, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Most of the int:XYZ transculusions are currently misformatting, e.g.:
{{int:visualeditor-dialog-transclusion-add-param}}
displays <visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip>
It's a bit beyond my technical abilities to fix. Any ideas?
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)
talk
07:33, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
If i entered a link with "_" the "_" will be replaced with a blank. How could i stop this behaviour? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulrich C. Thiess ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Is there a way to correct an error which has crept into the VisualEditor, which would prevent it from messing with the format of an association football player biography infobox? I am specifically talking about the years1/clubs1/caps1/goals1 section. If a player has played for more than one club, in the plain text editor, the clubs/stats will be listed like this:
|years1 =
|clubs1 =
|caps1 =
|goals1 =
|years2 =
|clubs2 =
|caps2 =
|goals2 =
When you edit an infobox through the VisualEditor and then save, it does this to the list:
|years1 =
|years2 =
|clubs1 =
|clubs2 =
|caps1 =
|caps2 =
|goals1 =
|goals2 =
Is there any way that the VisualEditor can be adjusted so that it does not alter the formatting of a football biography infobox? There is an example here where a moderator comes down on me for a good faith edit of mine. I didn't intentionally mess up the infobox, VisualEditor messed it up. Beatpoet ( talk) 17:56, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi all
Is the enabling VE page out of date? I recently taught some people to edit Wikipedia and VE has been religated to a small unmarked pencil icon in the editing window, its super hard to find.... Having it documented here would be great help.
Thanks
-- John Cummings ( talk) 12:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
The Teahouse is still receiving calls from editors confused about the recent change from 'Save changes' or 'Save page' to 'Publish changes' and 'Publish page'. I have added a note at the top of the page to alert users to this discrepancy in the Guide. If anyone can update these screenshots and associated text, that would be helpful. A full list of outstanding pages with images and text that need changing can be found here. Regards, Nick Moyes ( talk) 22:29, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I'm interested in Infobox templates.
On template pages such as Template:Infobox_soap_character, there is a list of parameters with accompanying descriptions of how to use them, like here: Template:Infobox_soap_character#Parameter descriptions. In Visual Editor I would expect these to appear when an editor clicks the "i" icon when filling in a template field (when visually-editing a page that uses the infobox template, such as Sami Brady) but they do not! Instead, we just get a message saying "no field description available" when an editor moves the mouse over the icon. How is this "i" field description put into use? If it was active it would be a would be a wonderful help to editors, and much improve the quality of editorial contributions to infoboxes! How then is it implemented? How do we get the parameter descriptions in the template to appear in Visual Editor?
Thank you for your assistance. Aliveness Cascade ( talk) 23:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi all, is it possible to address someone using the visual editor? e.g. @Botatao: blablabla Botatao ( talk) 09:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I've put up a proposal at the Village Pump to replace the old WP:I and WP:T with the superior Help:Intro. Any opinions welcomed there. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo) talk 02:51, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi Akash kashi ( talk) 00:53, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
How to include the Citoid into the visual editor of arz.wikipedia.org, any help please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HitomiAkane ( talk • contribs) 05:10, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
I can not add no wiki tag , please advice Omda4wady ( talk) 11:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to create interwiki links with the VisualEditor? I tried using VE's link insertion feature but it wouldn't recognise a Wikipedia link to Wiktionary. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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I'm editing articles that contain a lot of formatnums, and because it's organized in tables it's much easier to use the visual editor for it. I'm having a problem with this magicword though: I can't edit the numbers in it (because it's interpreted as a template). How can I edit a formatnum easily via the visual editor (or can it be implemented)? Julio974◆ ( Talk- Contribs) 14:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Is it possible to have Visual Editor not use default ref names like :0: and :1:? I am encountering these more and more and this is actually screwing up newbie editors, who don't seem to be able to tell which ref they are actually citing due to this... Jytdog ( talk) 06:43, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
":0"
-style ref names are coming from, and I just find out. Three and a half years later, it is way past time to fix this. In the help section of Wikipedia,
WP:REFNAME discourages this style of ref name, but in the visual editor, they are the unchangeable default. Wikipedia should stop making war against its own help guidelines. Can we please fix the visual editor now? It is possible to create a name generator that grabs parts of the author, publication, website, date, and title to come up with unique and meaningful ref names. Also note that editors learn from what they see, and every time editors see one of these abominable ":0"
-style ref names in the source editor, they learn to write abominable Wikitext themselves, so each such abomination generated by the visual editor causes similar abominations generated by users who copy the style they see. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
07:41, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
@ Jonesey95, Evolution and evolvability, Anomalocaris, and Valereee:, just painfully fixed up some VE refname cruft yet again, and that was only half a dozen unique ref names. Although the VE-named ref thing keeps popping up on my radar, I can never remember where all the places are where it's being discussed, and end up wasting time looking for it, every time. So I just created WP:VisualEditor/Named references as a central hub where we can link everything from, as there didn't seem to be such a page anywhere. Feel free to have a look, and please do add anything to it that makes sense. It's mostly a brief Introduction, followed by a bunch of links, as I didn't want to duplicate information already covered elsewhere. If a longer Intro makes sense, or if there's info not contained elsewhere that ought to be recorded somewhere, this is the place. Also adding @ PamD: who I remember initiated a discussion about this at some point; I've probably linked it from the hub page. Please ping anyone who I missed who you think might be interested. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 02:15, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
I'm a newbie using visual editor. I know how to cite a newspaper article, using the cite link and the newspaper article template. But when I finish entering the info about the first cite, I don't see a way to re-summon the template to enter info about the second source. Pdramshaw ( talk) 23:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Just wanted to say that the screenshots about the references are from the previous "edition" of VE, before the "create new source" and "use an existing source" were there. TeamGale ( talk) 02:12, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2022 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parwat singh mahich ( talk • contribs) 14:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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This article is less than a stub and contains information that is simply wrong. I don't know if there is any way to fix it other than to completely rewrite it. PortWallisTechnologies ( talk) 12:21, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
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On May 26th, 2022, the Warriors advanced to their 7th NBA Finals after defeating the Dallas Mavericks in the Western Conference Finals, 4-1. It should be 6th NBA Finals. FaisalZia23 ( talk) 10:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Is there an option to turn off the citation templates or the footnotes beside the actual content text for us to copyedit more easily? Wei4Earth ( talk, contribs) 03:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
I'm a seasoned Wikipedia member, and sometime editor. Recently I noticed an edit in a history with a "Visual Editor" tag. I followed the link and it brought me to this page.
However, when trying to enable Visual Editor myself, I do not see any option to do so. My user preferences screen is missing the "Editing Mode" dropdown. My own Preferences screen appears like this:
I use Firefox Portable - although I don't know whether this is relevant? Please could somebody advise. Thank you. EuroSong talk 15:24, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
I couldn't find an answer here or online... Viu54071 ( talk) 23:33, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
This article targets people who are not going to have any idea what the word "transclusion" means. I'm a computer scientist and I had to look it up again to be sure what it meant. Its use on this page is not even correct (not that most readers will know that). The statement that "The "Transclusion" icon (a puzzle piece) allows you to edit templates" is, I think, just wrong. You click on the puzzle piece to edit information contained in template parameters. This is not the same as editing the template itself. The transclusion icon has at least three different uses depending on where you encounter it. Under reference content it allows you to import templates (it says it is allowing you to ADD templates, but that's not exactly the same). If you encounter it when editing a reference, it allows you to edit data contained in a template. Finally if you click the puzzle piece when you are editing a non-template reference, it seems to have no discernible purpose.
I would edit the tutorial but the real problem is bigger than the word transclusion; the problem is that a single icon with opaque name is used to do substantially different things, none of them exactly what the tutorial suggests. Camdenmaine ( talk) 01:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Is it possible to opt out VisualEditor? If so, it should be explained in the user guide. -- Custoo ( talk) 23:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
The VisEd link instruction workflow shows no obvious way to specify a link URL, whether internal Wiki or external. If there is a way (and there obviously must be...) then it should be added to the example in the instruction flow. I tried to use the VisEd procedure to make a correction on the Blue Moon beer info. page and gave up...see my comments on that page. -- Webbie
I can see the "edit source" tab but not the tab for VisualEditor :-( TINY MARK 09:34, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Searching for images via VE does not only work on Commons, but also includes the local Wikipedia's files (simple test: search for a local non-free file under fair-use) - atleast it does on en-Wiki, assuming other Wikis behave similar. Yesterday's newsletter DYK had the same small error :).. GermanJoe ( talk) 11:05, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I see no information in the user guide about how to do a piped link. Such links are very common in Wikipedia articles; it would be great to know how to do this in VE, or, if it's not yet possible, then a note saying not to even try. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:46, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
It looks very out of place at the bottom of the article. -- 64.4.68.234 ( talk) 15:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
On my screen, the formatting section, which the text illustrates with the word paragraph is nothing but a large empty rectangle (with no coloration and a near invisible border) with a small triangle. Kdammers ( talk) 06:43, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
This was the only part I could find that contained the word paragraph. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 20:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
So when you open VisualEditor, you see the toolbar like this:
except that the space that's supposed to say "Paragraph" (or whatever the formatting is for that line) is blank. Is that also true when you put your cursor in the middle of a section heading? What web browser are you using? Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 18:40, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
I agree with User:Fram that the lead needs clarification about the state of VisualEditor and about how to access the older Wikitext option. (I'm checking on necessary updates.) -- Maggie Dennis (WMF) ( talk) 12:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the paragraph about the RFC becuase it's off-topic and has no practical effect. It feels a bit like someone changing WP:FIRST to say "Here's instructions on how to create your first article. By the way, most of us senior editors don't want you to be able to do this." However, if the RFC were ever implemented, then I would support the inclusion of information to the effect that a bunch of editors decided that abunch of other editors weren't able to use VisualEditor, because that does have practical information (namely, that the second group of editors needs to go read a different help page). Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 15:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
The user-guide says "To delete an image or media file, select it, and then press delete or ← Backspace." A few months ago that certainly worked, however that doesnt work when I try that now, on Linux/monobook/Firefox&Chrome and Windows/vector/Firefox&Safari. Control-X works on both platforms. Likewise pressing delete or backspace on references & templates also doesn't work. Is that an intentional change? If so, the guide needs updating. John Vandenberg ( chat) 07:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
The guide doesn't seem to explain how to add a new line to a bulleted or numbered list with-out either adding a new bullet (or number) or indenting. I tried to do it, but the only thing that got accepted was really messed up (so I used source editing). In other words, how do I do the equivalent of putting in ":" under a bullet? Kdammers ( talk) 10:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
The User guide says that it takes a "few seconds" for the VE to open. I find that it takes more like a minute, even for a short article. I use Chrome which is a supported browser, they say, with the vector skin. What am I doing wrong? I've never managed to make an edit in VE. Thanks, Soranoch ( talk) 22:39, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
As I noted else-where, the word "Paragraph" does not display until some action is taken: The screen shot shown here is not what I see when I first go to edit beta. Kdammers ( talk) 09:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I have been able to find out what happened (and happens!) with the "Bold" and "Italic": it depends on where the (invisible) cursor stands when you open the page. So in Social Democratic Party (Moldova), you get nothing, in Allister, West Virginia, you get a box around the "Bold" icon, and in Anveshanam, both the bold and italic symbols are boxed.
Similarly, in Mrs. Bob Cratchit's Wild Christmas Binge, I get the "Paragraph" visible, but in Manja, Madagascar, I don't. Fram ( talk) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
How is a redirect made in VE?
The introduction says that in order to opt-in for the VisualEditor, you must go to your preferences, with a link to Preferences->Editing. However, there is no opt-in option here. I had to go to Preferences->Beta features to find the opt-in option. Is this just me? Jaardon ( talk) 18:59, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
The documentation for Editing images and other media files says "Once inserted.... You can resize it using the handles at its corners." I question whether resizing should be supported in the VE UI. If it is, then surely the docs should mention that normally images should not be resized manually, to reduce the potential for conflict when more experienced editors revert the size changes? - Pointillist ( talk) 00:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
An idea. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:50, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Am happy to see a Cite menu with categories for Website, Book, Newspaper and Journal. To my mind, this is a big step in making VE a viable replacement for the source editor. Is the feature documented somewhere? Barte ( talk) 01:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
The Cite instructions are out-of-date, so I boldly fixed them but got reverted. Could someone with more experience than me update them? Thanks! Nicolas1981 ( talk) 06:52, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
The National Library of Australia provides Wikipedia-format citations (as well as other formats) for everything in the catalogue including millions of books, journal articles, digitised newspaper articles, pictures etc. E.g. for this digitised newspaper article, you get this citation:
{{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16680964 |title=CARNEGIE CLARK RETIRES. |newspaper=[[Sydney_morning_herald|The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)]] |location=NSW |date=28 May 1930 |accessdate=8 May 2015 |page=17 |publisher=National Library of Australia}}
However, I cannot work out how to enter these using the Visual Editor because when I use the "Cite basic form" it wraps the pasted text with nowiki tags with no apparent way to disable that behaviour. Take a look at the last citation in the Carnegie Clark article to see my problem.
I am planning to teach 2 groups of Australian librarians the VE next month but if I can't solve the problem of how to cite resources in Australian libraries, I'll have to keep teaching the source editor.
Thanks. Kerry ( talk) 21:45, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
The user guide says to click "edit beta" and also has screenshots saying "edit beta", but the interface no longer includes "beta".
Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide#First step: opt in says "you can still use VisualEditor by adding ?veaction=edit
to the end of a Wikipedia page URL." I suggest mentioning you can click the normal edit tab first and then change ?action=edit
to ?veaction=edit
.
PrimeHunter (
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01:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I found these two stray bits in my notes; I think they were 'lost' during the recent updates:
Tablet users can use VisualEditor on the mobile version of Wikipedia. While editing a page, click on the cog in the top-right corner of your screen and select
Edit
.
Clicking on the "Edit source" tab will open the classic wikitext source editor.
I can't decide if they're important enough to include again (although the image is out of date). Also, User:John Broughton (and anyone else who's interested): Do you think that we should add information about VisualEditor on mobile devices? The toolbar is smaller/fewer features, and the button has a different icon. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 23:32, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Is there any interest in the community for creating a step-by-step tutorial along the same lines as Wikipedia:Tutorial? It would be good for new users to be taught how to use this interface before they learn markup. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo) talk 10:59, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I've made a basic Help:Introduction_to_editing_(VE) page! I aim eventually to do one for references, tables, images and templates. Please let me know what you think. Any improvements and suggestions are welcome. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo) talk 11:16, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
I've just updated Help:Referencing for beginners#Using VisualEditor, which has reminded me that c:User:Neil P. Quinn-WMF/Visual editor has some interesting animated gifs. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 19:54, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
{{
intro to}}
page?
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)
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05:04, 21 November 2015 (UTC){{
intro to box}}
, that might be useful for transcluding into other help pages.
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)
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12:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)I have updated a few pages with the new intros ...pls add more as need be....still need to add PDFs to Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia#External links....
{{
intro to box}}
Hello, I looked but can't see the information? Iamnotacylon ( talk) 18:03, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm editing a coord template in Visual Editor, changing the "dim" parameter, which will make a change in the external link that is offered when the page is rendered. I like the way the template editor facilitates changing the template. But I can't test my changes before I save, since I can't find a way to get the page actually rendered into a preview of the actual page. Or I can't find a way to click on the coord entry and follow the link that will be generated, rather than just editing the coord template parameters again. Please provide a way to test clicking on the link rendered by this and other templates. If that is too hard, please explain in the interactive help what the best way to test is (changing to "edit source" with "keep changes" and "Show Preview"?). And then add a way to switch straight to the "show preview" option in Edit Source without having to remember to "keep changes"..... ★NealMcB★ ( talk) 15:35, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Now that en.wiki has moved over to using a single edit tab, the images on how to access VE will need to be updated. Are there any screenshots already in the commons or do new ones have to be made? Help:Introduction_to_editing_with_VisualEditor will need to be updated too. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo) talk 12:45, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Most of the int:XYZ transculusions are currently misformatting, e.g.:
{{int:visualeditor-dialog-transclusion-add-param}}
displays <visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip>
It's a bit beyond my technical abilities to fix. Any ideas?
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)
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07:33, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
If i entered a link with "_" the "_" will be replaced with a blank. How could i stop this behaviour? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulrich C. Thiess ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Is there a way to correct an error which has crept into the VisualEditor, which would prevent it from messing with the format of an association football player biography infobox? I am specifically talking about the years1/clubs1/caps1/goals1 section. If a player has played for more than one club, in the plain text editor, the clubs/stats will be listed like this:
|years1 =
|clubs1 =
|caps1 =
|goals1 =
|years2 =
|clubs2 =
|caps2 =
|goals2 =
When you edit an infobox through the VisualEditor and then save, it does this to the list:
|years1 =
|years2 =
|clubs1 =
|clubs2 =
|caps1 =
|caps2 =
|goals1 =
|goals2 =
Is there any way that the VisualEditor can be adjusted so that it does not alter the formatting of a football biography infobox? There is an example here where a moderator comes down on me for a good faith edit of mine. I didn't intentionally mess up the infobox, VisualEditor messed it up. Beatpoet ( talk) 17:56, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi all
Is the enabling VE page out of date? I recently taught some people to edit Wikipedia and VE has been religated to a small unmarked pencil icon in the editing window, its super hard to find.... Having it documented here would be great help.
Thanks
-- John Cummings ( talk) 12:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
The Teahouse is still receiving calls from editors confused about the recent change from 'Save changes' or 'Save page' to 'Publish changes' and 'Publish page'. I have added a note at the top of the page to alert users to this discrepancy in the Guide. If anyone can update these screenshots and associated text, that would be helpful. A full list of outstanding pages with images and text that need changing can be found here. Regards, Nick Moyes ( talk) 22:29, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I'm interested in Infobox templates.
On template pages such as Template:Infobox_soap_character, there is a list of parameters with accompanying descriptions of how to use them, like here: Template:Infobox_soap_character#Parameter descriptions. In Visual Editor I would expect these to appear when an editor clicks the "i" icon when filling in a template field (when visually-editing a page that uses the infobox template, such as Sami Brady) but they do not! Instead, we just get a message saying "no field description available" when an editor moves the mouse over the icon. How is this "i" field description put into use? If it was active it would be a would be a wonderful help to editors, and much improve the quality of editorial contributions to infoboxes! How then is it implemented? How do we get the parameter descriptions in the template to appear in Visual Editor?
Thank you for your assistance. Aliveness Cascade ( talk) 23:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi all, is it possible to address someone using the visual editor? e.g. @Botatao: blablabla Botatao ( talk) 09:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I've put up a proposal at the Village Pump to replace the old WP:I and WP:T with the superior Help:Intro. Any opinions welcomed there. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo) talk 02:51, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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How to include the Citoid into the visual editor of arz.wikipedia.org, any help please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HitomiAkane ( talk • contribs) 05:10, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
I can not add no wiki tag , please advice Omda4wady ( talk) 11:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to create interwiki links with the VisualEditor? I tried using VE's link insertion feature but it wouldn't recognise a Wikipedia link to Wiktionary. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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I'm editing articles that contain a lot of formatnums, and because it's organized in tables it's much easier to use the visual editor for it. I'm having a problem with this magicword though: I can't edit the numbers in it (because it's interpreted as a template). How can I edit a formatnum easily via the visual editor (or can it be implemented)? Julio974◆ ( Talk- Contribs) 14:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Is it possible to have Visual Editor not use default ref names like :0: and :1:? I am encountering these more and more and this is actually screwing up newbie editors, who don't seem to be able to tell which ref they are actually citing due to this... Jytdog ( talk) 06:43, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
":0"
-style ref names are coming from, and I just find out. Three and a half years later, it is way past time to fix this. In the help section of Wikipedia,
WP:REFNAME discourages this style of ref name, but in the visual editor, they are the unchangeable default. Wikipedia should stop making war against its own help guidelines. Can we please fix the visual editor now? It is possible to create a name generator that grabs parts of the author, publication, website, date, and title to come up with unique and meaningful ref names. Also note that editors learn from what they see, and every time editors see one of these abominable ":0"
-style ref names in the source editor, they learn to write abominable Wikitext themselves, so each such abomination generated by the visual editor causes similar abominations generated by users who copy the style they see. —
Anomalocaris (
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07:41, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
@ Jonesey95, Evolution and evolvability, Anomalocaris, and Valereee:, just painfully fixed up some VE refname cruft yet again, and that was only half a dozen unique ref names. Although the VE-named ref thing keeps popping up on my radar, I can never remember where all the places are where it's being discussed, and end up wasting time looking for it, every time. So I just created WP:VisualEditor/Named references as a central hub where we can link everything from, as there didn't seem to be such a page anywhere. Feel free to have a look, and please do add anything to it that makes sense. It's mostly a brief Introduction, followed by a bunch of links, as I didn't want to duplicate information already covered elsewhere. If a longer Intro makes sense, or if there's info not contained elsewhere that ought to be recorded somewhere, this is the place. Also adding @ PamD: who I remember initiated a discussion about this at some point; I've probably linked it from the hub page. Please ping anyone who I missed who you think might be interested. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 02:15, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
I'm a newbie using visual editor. I know how to cite a newspaper article, using the cite link and the newspaper article template. But when I finish entering the info about the first cite, I don't see a way to re-summon the template to enter info about the second source. Pdramshaw ( talk) 23:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Just wanted to say that the screenshots about the references are from the previous "edition" of VE, before the "create new source" and "use an existing source" were there. TeamGale ( talk) 02:12, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2022 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parwat singh mahich ( talk • contribs) 14:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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This article is less than a stub and contains information that is simply wrong. I don't know if there is any way to fix it other than to completely rewrite it. PortWallisTechnologies ( talk) 12:21, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
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On May 26th, 2022, the Warriors advanced to their 7th NBA Finals after defeating the Dallas Mavericks in the Western Conference Finals, 4-1. It should be 6th NBA Finals. FaisalZia23 ( talk) 10:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Is there an option to turn off the citation templates or the footnotes beside the actual content text for us to copyedit more easily? Wei4Earth ( talk, contribs) 03:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
I'm a seasoned Wikipedia member, and sometime editor. Recently I noticed an edit in a history with a "Visual Editor" tag. I followed the link and it brought me to this page.
However, when trying to enable Visual Editor myself, I do not see any option to do so. My user preferences screen is missing the "Editing Mode" dropdown. My own Preferences screen appears like this:
I use Firefox Portable - although I don't know whether this is relevant? Please could somebody advise. Thank you. EuroSong talk 15:24, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
I couldn't find an answer here or online... Viu54071 ( talk) 23:33, 23 January 2023 (UTC)