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Replacability

@ SNUGGUMS: While I appreciate your concerns with the image's non-free vs free replicability, I have disputed the tagging given this image more accurately conveys the four main actors of the film (Johnson, Merced, Sweeney, and O'Connor) in costume during the film's shoot rather than two random unaffiliated images of only two of those actors being used in the Filming section. Prior to uploading this file, I had considered toying with uploading free files of Merced, Sweeney, Roberts, Scott, and Rahim to this article in the Pre-production section (as I have similarly done for other recent superhero film articles such as Blue Beetle (film) or Batgirl (film), although I made the determination that too much of those could be counterintuitive to conveying the actors in association with this film itself. Given the purpose of this image is to showcase the actors in costume during filming and not only to provide a visual representation of some of the actors, I do not believe that a free version replacement is the right move here, nor do I believe any of the set photos are produced with free equivalents. I am open to introducing other cast images in the Cast section via a gallery with a scrollbar to help provide visual representation there, though I would caution the overabundance of using images to convey such aspects which would otherwise suffice with this singular image of the actors directly involved in this film's production/filming. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 04:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I was going to use an individual shot for O'Connor to add with Merced and Sweeney, but couldn't find one, and it feels repetitive to have two pics of Johnson in the page (even when starring in the lead role). No objections to using free images of other cast members as you've suggested. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 05:10, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
If two pics of Johnson is a concern, we can easily remove the singular one in the cast section. I think using this image and free images of the remaining actors (Rahim, Roberts, and Scott) would be the best compromise. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 18:17, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, that was one of my concerns. Assuming this joint photo here doesn't get deleted, would you more likely move that up to cast to replace the solo pic, or just have it be in a different production subsection from any free images of other cast members? SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 20:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I think this image works well where it is presently placed within the article, and that other free images of Rahim, Scott, and Roberts could be added to the Pre-production section where their castings are discussed, or in the Post-production section where their roles are more discussed. There is no harm in including a solo image of Johnson in the cast section given much of it includes discussion of her character though it could also be moved to the Critical Response or Marketing sections where some of her dialogue is discussed, or removed entirely which I'm fine with as I don't want to overload this article with multiple images. Given four actors could be covered by this single image, I think retaining this one in the Filming section is good as it is more suitable there as opposed to overstuffing the Cast section. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 22:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I have added some free images of select cast members in the "Post-production" section of the article to help convey where the additional images would belong. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 01:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ SNUGGUMS: In the name of compromise, I have moved this image to the Cast section, replacing the solo Johnson one. Does this all look good to you in terms of addressing your concerns with this file's irreplaceability? Trailblazer101 ( talk) 23:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Unless a free solo pic of O'Connor turns up, I'll say yes. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 01:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Replacability

@ SNUGGUMS: While I appreciate your concerns with the image's non-free vs free replicability, I have disputed the tagging given this image more accurately conveys the four main actors of the film (Johnson, Merced, Sweeney, and O'Connor) in costume during the film's shoot rather than two random unaffiliated images of only two of those actors being used in the Filming section. Prior to uploading this file, I had considered toying with uploading free files of Merced, Sweeney, Roberts, Scott, and Rahim to this article in the Pre-production section (as I have similarly done for other recent superhero film articles such as Blue Beetle (film) or Batgirl (film), although I made the determination that too much of those could be counterintuitive to conveying the actors in association with this film itself. Given the purpose of this image is to showcase the actors in costume during filming and not only to provide a visual representation of some of the actors, I do not believe that a free version replacement is the right move here, nor do I believe any of the set photos are produced with free equivalents. I am open to introducing other cast images in the Cast section via a gallery with a scrollbar to help provide visual representation there, though I would caution the overabundance of using images to convey such aspects which would otherwise suffice with this singular image of the actors directly involved in this film's production/filming. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 04:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I was going to use an individual shot for O'Connor to add with Merced and Sweeney, but couldn't find one, and it feels repetitive to have two pics of Johnson in the page (even when starring in the lead role). No objections to using free images of other cast members as you've suggested. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 05:10, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
If two pics of Johnson is a concern, we can easily remove the singular one in the cast section. I think using this image and free images of the remaining actors (Rahim, Roberts, and Scott) would be the best compromise. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 18:17, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, that was one of my concerns. Assuming this joint photo here doesn't get deleted, would you more likely move that up to cast to replace the solo pic, or just have it be in a different production subsection from any free images of other cast members? SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 20:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I think this image works well where it is presently placed within the article, and that other free images of Rahim, Scott, and Roberts could be added to the Pre-production section where their castings are discussed, or in the Post-production section where their roles are more discussed. There is no harm in including a solo image of Johnson in the cast section given much of it includes discussion of her character though it could also be moved to the Critical Response or Marketing sections where some of her dialogue is discussed, or removed entirely which I'm fine with as I don't want to overload this article with multiple images. Given four actors could be covered by this single image, I think retaining this one in the Filming section is good as it is more suitable there as opposed to overstuffing the Cast section. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 22:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I have added some free images of select cast members in the "Post-production" section of the article to help convey where the additional images would belong. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 01:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ SNUGGUMS: In the name of compromise, I have moved this image to the Cast section, replacing the solo Johnson one. Does this all look good to you in terms of addressing your concerns with this file's irreplaceability? Trailblazer101 ( talk) 23:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Unless a free solo pic of O'Connor turns up, I'll say yes. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 01:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply


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