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The usage of Dr. Who! ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is up for discussion, see Talk:Dr. Who! (Tujamo and Plastik Funk song) -- 70.24.250.192 ( talk) 22:17, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
How could T. J. "Red" Arnall have written "Cocaine blues" when Woody Guthrie wrote it in 44??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.241.224.3 ( talk)
I'm hoping we can wind up and actually action the suggestion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Songs/Archive_9#Singles_template_Language_field? to allow editors an optional language field. This is particularly needed for (a) songs which aren't obvious, such as names Maria (song), and (b) for English-titled songs which are actually sung in Korean, Japanese, French or other languages despite an English title. In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:23, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
The song title "Seattle" is also an instrumental recording (45RPM) by the band "The Fabulous Wailers" ["Seattle" (Etiquette, 1963)] as shown on "The Fabulous Wailers" wiki page. [1] 130.76.32.51 ( talk) 18:16, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Jan Crutchfield is generally credited as the writer of this song, but David Ruffin is credited as the writer on his 1973 self-titled album. Ruffin also claimed that he wrote the song. The copyright office list both Crutchfield and Ruffin as writers of this song, but does not mention a date. Does anyone know who actually wrote it? 173.51.123.97 ( talk) 07:09, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia states that "The Beastie Boys sampled "Pump It Up" for their song "Egg Man" on their album Paul's Boutique." I can find no evidence of this in the actual song, though Egg Man definitely samples a song with a similar bass line called "Superfly" by Curtis Mayfield. There are no sources cited in the article for the "Egg Man" claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tablesitter ( talk • contribs) 20:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
At Talk:Thirsty (song), a debate started about whether or not streaming should be considered a single format. As this is something that could apply to any single release, and not just the one that sparked the conversation, it would be best to get consensus here and see how we, as a WikiProject, feel about streaming being considered a single format. Pinging those involved in the talk page discussion: @ Calvin999: @ Lil-unique1: @ IndianBio: @ STATicVapor: @ Bluesatellite: — Status ( talk · contribs) 06:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
My main drawback with streaming being used as a single release format is that has any other record charts included streaming actively as one of its component charts except for Billboard? If it is widely being included as one of the components for determining the primary charts, then I'm fine with accepting it as a medium for single release. — Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Stop discussing "Thirty" here. This isn't what this discussion is about. — Status ( talk · contribs) 18:23, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Streaming is a component of the Billboard Hot 100, Hot Country Songs, Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, and Hot Rock Songs - the major genre charts. I don't think there is a separate streaming chart as such but I do think that if a label makes the announcement that a song is a single, and then makes it available to stream it can be referred to as a single. I only think it should be allowed if BOTH of those conditions are met and WP:DUCK applies (if it is promoted and receives a music video etc). However, if a digital or radio date is released, that should be used instead of streaming in the infobox. Songs can now chart as a result of streaming and as we've seen in the UK, some labels don't even release songs for download anymore, instead using an impact day. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 20:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Per Lil-unique1, streaming has been widely recognized by Billboard along with radio airplay and sales. As for @ IndianBio:, streaming has been included on German Singles Chart [3] (previously only sales, now sales+streaming). It will be included on UK Singles Chart as well [4] (currently only sales). Recording Industry Association of America has combined streaming and sales for certification (Lady Gaga's " Bad Romance" is the first Diamond Award recipient of streaming+sales single [5]). IFPI Denmark has also provided certification separately for streaming. [6] So, if the question is "is streaming a single format?", the answer is "if radio airplay is a single format, then so is streaming." Streaming is even recognized by certification providers, but radio airplay is not. Not every song uploaded to streaming provider is called single, just like not every song played on the radio is called single. I personally believe that only official announcements count. If a label / an artist announced a song as a single, then it must be a single (either for sale/radio/streaming). Bluesatellite ( talk) 00:51, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
punto de inicio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.236.12.71 ( talk) 06:48, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello. It has come to my attention that, one year ago, User:Richhoncho removed every "Category:YYYY songs" from their corresponding "Category:YYYY singles" and justified it with "a single is (or was!) a piece of plastic" ( example). Richhoncho also categorized many articles on singles both as "YYYY songs" and "YYYY singles", which I consider redundant, since I always thought singles were just songs released in a special, commercial way. I personally disagree with those changes, not only because we are in the digital download era (a downloaded song is not a piece of plastic), but also because I never knew singles not being songs was something to be so sure about. If that's the new and right way, I'd like to have it confirmed by the fellow members of this project so that I (and other editors in doubt that may consult this topic in the future) can create articles with this in mind. I will also invite members of the WikiProject Music to comment on this matter. Victão Lopes Fala! 20:45, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
The usage of Womanizer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion. See talk:Womanizer (song) where it is requested that the song replace the disambiguation page. -- 65.94.171.126 ( talk) 05:08, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
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I wrote a new article for the Pierce the Veil song "King for a Day" because it got charted at Hot Rock Charts and Digital Rock Songs Charts both published on Billboard. The song was nominated for Best Video and Best Single at the 2013s Kerrang! Awards and won for the best music video. I even found something about the songs background. Sourches are in the article. -- Goroth ( talk) 04:46, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
It has been greatly improved since last assessment. Hope to get a B-class (or even A-class, if yiu guys really have A-class reviews, as I saw it says '4' on A-class article count). Forbidden User ( talk) 14:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
There's an ongoing debate here about whether or not to include the radio version of this song as a single infobox. Additional comments are welcomed. ALittle Quenhi ( talk to me) 06:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
The usage of Dr. Who (song) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, where Dr. Who! (Tujamo and Plastik Funk song) has been requested to be renamed to " Dr. Who (song)". For the discussion, see talk: Dr. Who! (Tujamo and Plastik Funk song) -- 65.94.171.126 ( talk) 05:25, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
For 90% of songs there's only 1 artist. So why then not for such songs always have FOO redirect to FOO (artist song)? Whom does not having the artist name in title benefit? In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:27, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I should say that what I'm asking is purely on the level of what is best for readers, I am trying to understand who benefits from removing an artist name when the redirect redirects there anyway just as redirect
Mozart redirects to
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. This is my question.
I have asked this of a couple of individual editors before and never received an answer. The usual answer is in the lines of "it doesn't help readers, it is
WP:PRECISION" which is fine, we can do things that make life difficult for readers if policy is iron-clad with no exceptions, but
WP:PRECISION says there can be exceptions:
Usually, titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that. For instance, Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta is too precise, as Mother Teresa is precise enough to indicate exactly the same topic. On the other hand, Horowitz would not be precise enough to identify unambiguously the famous classical pianist Vladimir Horowitz. Exceptions to the precision criterion may sometimes result from the application of some other naming criteria. Most of these exceptions are described in specific Wikipedia guidelines or by Wikipedia projects, such as Primary topic, Geographic names, or Names of royals and nobles. For instance:
I feel what we're doing here is akin to Horowitz which would not be precise enough to identify unambiguously the famous classical pianist Vladimir Horowitz. We're creating 1000s of articles which are a giant frustrating guessing game for readers, and for no discernable reason. Why are we doing it? In ictu oculi ( talk) 05:43, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Mayast and Michael Bednarek already explained it all. We don't disambiguate titles if there's no reason for it, and that's everything we need to bear in mind for now. Anyway, this should actually be discussed at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation or somewhere else. Why should song articles work differently than the rest of Wikipedia? Why shouldn't this be applied at album articles too? Let us give a wider group of editors the opportunity to discuss such a change in naming conventions. I would be against it anyway for the aforementioned reasons. Victão Lopes Fala! 15:27, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
When creating an article do not check if another song of the same title is already mentioned in an artist bio or an album article. If you can create the article at FOO then do so. If you cannot create at FOO, create at FOO (song) even if a dozen other songs exist. Do not hatlink the article "for other songs see disambiguation". Do not include the artist name (The Angels song) except as a last resort.
In ictu oculi asked above, For 90% of songs there's only 1 artist. So why then not for such songs always have FOO redirect to FOO (artist song)? Whom does not having the artist name in title benefit? and there doesn't appear to be an answer other than "look at the guidelines." So I would like to ask a slightly reworded version of the question :-
Thanks, -- Richhoncho ( talk) 09:05, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks guys, fair answers, although I would not move, I can't fault your answers. So now I ask question #2
Again, thanks for your answers. Cheers. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 00:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, what exactly is your Harusame question? Completing my comment above: Wikipedia is already quite confusing and technically complex for new editors, why confuse them further by saying "hey, create song articles with the name people would search for, but don't forget about those who could search for another song with that same name"? The possibility of adopting this procedure may pave the way for subsequent oddities such as the ones I cited above. It's all in the same logic of "let me specify X because someone might one day search for Y and they'll be disappointed and unfairly charged for browsing the wrong article in their mobile phones". Films, albums, games... they're all products subjected to having other works with the same name. Why are we only talking about songs? Victão Lopes Fala! 18:13, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
I am totally confused. Where in songdab does it reference primarytopic? There is an inherent contradiction between the two guidelines. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 22:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
There has been much comment regarding “other projects” in this debate and how songs should not differ. Here are some examples variations from other projects.
I would think that there is enough there to confirm that, providing that policies are adhered to, then there is absolutely no reason why songs can’t use more practical guidelines suitable for songs. Cheers. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 09:45, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Participants in this discussion (or other Project participants) may be interested in several current relevant requested moves for song/album articles:
I may have missed a couple. As you can see, the appropriateness of disambiguating songs and albums has been much discussed lately. A lot of the same folks have been contributing over and over (myself included), so it would be good to get fresh perspectives. Dohn joe ( talk) 18:44, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Suddenly a raft of less important Grammy Awards templates are being created. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards and prizes#Grammy Award templates.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:55, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Is " indie-flavoured electronica best described as indie rock-influenced electronica, or indietronica? Adabow ( talk) 08:43, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
When a model becomes the subject of a music video, I noticed that the role is described as "Principle" in some resumes. Others say "Dancer/Model". What is correct? for a music video chronology table with a column for role?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:45, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that there is an entry for an older song with this title but not the new song by Michael Franti. I'm not really into editing Wikipedia but thought someone who does do editing would like to know. Just FYI. 50.39.121.52 ( talk) 20:12, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
There is a current discussion on whether or not the certifications should be used on the Template:Certification Table Entry. Erick ( talk) 22:11, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
can somebody please help me find free use of an image for the song cover of "Hella Hoes" by ASAP Mob.? I cant find the image on any free use site (could you also provide some websites that have free images?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camcamhamham ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Renaming discussion is taking place. -- George Ho ( talk) 06:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
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198.23.5.73 (
talk) 00:30, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't this ' Shutterbug' page be on Wiktionary instead of Wikipedia. It talks about a term in particular and is not a very notable song as such. No other details are included anyway. Surprisingly, though the piece was quite informative, it's a new addition to the English language as not many reputed Dictionaries have included it as yet. So keeping it under Wiktionary would make more sense.
AnnieAnanya ( talk) 07:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC)Annie
Shouldn't this song by included. I couldn't remember the title so came here to look for it but couldn't find it. Not sure what city this is about, but a song about the Detroit riot by Gordon Lightfoot, Black Day in July, made me remember Phil sang a similar song. I have vague memories of those days, the daily body count announced on the TV every night still haunts and I lived in the country, so the riots in the cities didn't strike me as being as terrible as they were as they might now. But that was a terrible time.
So it goes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.187.196.189 ( talk) 04:11, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Page move discussion still ongoing. -- George Ho ( talk) 19:01, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
An anon has been repeatedly adding a Gwar version to the " Carry On Wayward Son" article, but there's no discussion of it in the article, although the anon has been adding a link to Loudwire, http://loudwire.com/gwar-play-hilarious-cover-of-kansas-carry-on-my-wayward-son/ and a link to YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIl7d1VVwOc to support its notability. Could someone please either write a paragraph about the cover version, or explain to the anon why it's not really appropriate (or my why it is)? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 00:17, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at the featured article candidates talk page about critical reception sections in music articles which members of this Wikiproject may be interested in. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 02:10, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
The usage of Hello Kitty (song) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see Talk:Hello Kitty (Avril Lavigne song) -- 70.51.46.146 ( talk) 05:38, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I Hope You Find It, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. BlueMoonset ( talk) 00:07, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
HI I created this. Feel free to begin a detailed series of categories of music video filming locations. The UK could be split by county/city and have categories like Category:Music videos shot in Manchester. @ Ritchie333: might be interested.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:30, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Discussion still intact; join in. -- George Ho ( talk) 21:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
FWIW, there is a discussion on what Makes a single on our sister project. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 12:45, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Please, check my topic here. -- 188.135.197.238 ( talk) 12:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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The current text states that the protagonist of the song is caring for her premature child, but the lyrics state that she was premature: "I was born three months too early The doctors gave me thirty days"
The lyrics that mention her kids don't say anything about them being premature: "A single mom who works two jobs Who loves her kids and never stops With gentle hands and a heart of a fighter I'm a survivor"
A consistent theme throughout the song is that she faces adversity without giving up, no matter how hard things get.
All lyrics quoted from Cite error: The <ref>
tag has too many names (see the
help page).
71.46.65.22 (
talk) 03:32, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#VG comments subpages regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Songs articles that would be affected by this action are these:
If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Songs' use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. - Thibbs ( talk) 15:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
I've started a peer review for the WP:GA quality article, R U Professional.
Comments to help further improve quality would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/R U Professional/archive1.
— Cirt ( talk) 19:20, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Page move proposed; discuss it there by clicking above. -- George Ho ( talk) 17:44, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Third page move proposal discussed; join in. -- George Ho ( talk) 17:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
This received no commentary during its first week and has been relisted. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 06:14, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
This song was published in 1944 and Marion Hutton sang the song in the 1944 Abbott and Costello picture "In Society". It was also a feature song of Gracie Fields when she toured Australia and New Zealand. [2] DL Hewitt ( talk) 23:41, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
References
Is there is list of acceptable external lyrics databases to link to? More specifically, is http://www.lyricsondemand.com/ properly licenced, as this anon claims? Adabow ( talk) 03:43, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
The author of the hymn, "Blood-washed Pilgrim" is listed as John Matthias, but a song bearing striking similarities was authored by Russell Kelso Carter, who also wrote "Standing On The Promises". He wrote it in the mid-late 1880s. Are these the same songs? Did Kelso use Matthias' song? The information on both versions can be found at this site below, along with scanned copies of both songs (Matthias' hymn is a separate search).
http://www.hymnary.org/person/Carter_RK
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I've nominated a WP:FA article related to this project for WP:TFAR consideration as Today's Featured Article, please see discussion at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Irreplaceable. — Cirt ( talk) 20:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Page move is requested; comment there. -- George Ho ( talk) 07:17, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
This is a notice about Category:Songs articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock ( talk) 20:07, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
An editor recently removed songwriters from the writer category tree without input from anyone, thus some other opinions are needed in order to develop a consensus. Please see the discussion here: Category talk:Songwriters. Your project is the only one with a tag on the related Songwriter article. Aboutmovies ( talk) 04:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I do not understand the "rating" of an article I wrote for German Wikipedia and which a friend translated to English. Talk:All for the Beatles. What does it mean and how can this be helpful for whom? The article is complete, there are no furter information known about this song. -- Krächz ( talk) 23:58, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Does this policy pertain to discussion of a rendition only, or does it extend even to mentioning a rendition in a list? ⌘ ⇔ ChristTrekker 15:39, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
All I want to ask for now is the genre of the songs My Way and Boiler by Limp Bizkit ?? Is it Nu Metal or Rap Rock or Rap Metal or a combination of any two of these genres or all three at once ?? Please help me out..... DtwipzB Talk 14:18, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I'm looking for a little guidance establishing notability for songs in South Korea. Pretty much every song released in Korea charts on at least one version of the primary national chart in that country, Gaon. (There was Billboard chart for about three years but it has folded.) Thus, according to Wikipedia's notability requirements, every song, no matter how minor, qualifies for an article. We have a huge glut of articles of what are realistically non-notable songs, and I could use some clarification with the following scenarios:
So in the end, we have a gazillion songs that all claim notability, because charting on a major national chart is the only notability requirement for songs, as far as I can tell. Yet these are songs that pretty much no one ever heard other than hardcore fans. This is genre filled with very passionate, very inclusionist editors, so they take those requirements entirely literally when justifying these articles. I'm going to post this over at the record charts Wikiproject for their perspectives also. Thanks for any guidance. Shinyang-i ( talk) 05:39, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
talking about versions, the colombian singer luz aída made a castilan' one about 1980 known as "solo estás tú" (only you are) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertogestor ( talk • contribs) 01:50, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
I notice that many articles have used the "misc" field of the single infobox to include a link to the music video (on artist's official youtube, no copyright violations). Is this appropriate? Is it appropriate to link to the music video in the external links section? I saw some old discussion on this subject but wanted to know if I'd missed any recent changes. It impressed me as being a little bit WP:PROMO, so I thought I'd ask for an opinion here. Thanks! Shinyang-i ( talk) 04:50, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
When this song was first released with video, it was a much different video than the one that now accompanies it. The original video had a combat theme with a soldier's flashbacks. Why was it changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.155.133.67 ( talk) 04:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
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A user is disputing the use of the term " one of the best-selling singles of all-time" on Talk:Meghan Trainor, a term used widely among GA-class song articles as well, such as Poker Face (Lady Gaga song), ...Baby One More Time, Bad Romance, Just the Way You Are (Bruno Mars song), Waka Waka (This Time For Africa) among many others. The user feels that it is WP:OR and WP:PEACOCK to use the term without a source that directly refers to the song as "one of the best-selling singles of all-time" irregardless of if it features on the List of best-selling singles or not. On the same page the use of the term singer-songwriter is also being disputed. Comments will be appreciated at Talk:Meghan Trainor. - Lips are movin 21:20, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
@ Lips Are Movin and Winkelvi: It's perfectly fine to ask for input on Wikiprojects, it is not canvassing. WV is correct that such statement need to be cited, with a reliable source. Lapadite ( talk) 17:31, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello. There are many, many articles for Korean pop songs. As with most songs, most do not meet notability guidelines, even though they may have been hits. A few have been AFD'd and have had to be relisted many times due to few comments or high levels of fancommenting. It's been a real fight and pretty unpleasant. Even big hits have virtually no information published about them, and most sections recommended on the MOS for this project are left blank. The articles can never realistically become anything more than personnel and chart listings, and maybe a description of the music video. This is, of course, compounded by a lack of reliable sources in English, but honestly, Korean pop is a commercial entity, not an art, so no one writes about chord structures even (especially) in Korean. Given that multiple groups have maybe 10 or 12 non-notable song articles apiece and the difficulty of persuading kpop fans that most songs are not notable, does anyone have advice for getting these articles successfully and succinctly AFD'd? As long as they stay, editors think it means every new song deserves an article and continue to create articles for every new song, too. Thank you for any advice. Shinyang-i ( talk) 05:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Interested editors are invited to discuss whether or not there should be a primary topic for "Cry Me a River". Talk:Cry Me a River#Requested move 27 January 2015. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 23:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello. I'm a member of WP:KOREA and I'm in the process of merging a bunch of song articles with their relevant album or EP articles. I'm not a member of WP Songs, but if no one has an objection, I will change the "class" field on the WP Songs talk page tag to "redirect" as I'm adding the "this article was merged to..." template. I'd been just deleting them but another editor re-added the tag with that class change, so upon advice from another editor I will do that instead. Please let me know if you'd prefer I take some other action instead. Thanks! Shinyang-i ( talk) 03:42, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
During a program on David Steinberg, popular comedian from the 1960's and 1970's I was interested to find that he was a neighbor to Carly Simon and a sister. During which, according to the program that they became close. It was early in both careers but the friendship remains to this day. During an interview for the program Simon somewhat describes aspects of the "Your So Vain" character being similar to the way Steinberg acted at that time being high sought out from many females leaving Simon to be somewhat of a "wingman". I think the Wiki article for one the missing persons is David Steinberg21:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx317 ( talk • contribs)
could someone add the Lyrics of the song Elan by Nightwish to its page? and if anyone can, could someone add a clip to the song's page as well?
ah ok. I thought the clip might be a copyright problem, but i didn't know that the lyrics might be copyrighted, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SGA314 ( talk • contribs) 16:25, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
I've seen Popdust used as a source for song/album reviews (e.g. On the Rocks (Nicole Scherzinger song) and Trouble (Iggy Azalea song)). Is this website a valid source for reviews? Jacques Peterson is called a "famous U.S. music critic" here, but KpopStarz isn't exactly a reliable source. Random86 ( talk) 02:36, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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The usage of Dr. Who! ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is up for discussion, see Talk:Dr. Who! (Tujamo and Plastik Funk song) -- 70.24.250.192 ( talk) 22:17, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
How could T. J. "Red" Arnall have written "Cocaine blues" when Woody Guthrie wrote it in 44??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.241.224.3 ( talk)
I'm hoping we can wind up and actually action the suggestion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Songs/Archive_9#Singles_template_Language_field? to allow editors an optional language field. This is particularly needed for (a) songs which aren't obvious, such as names Maria (song), and (b) for English-titled songs which are actually sung in Korean, Japanese, French or other languages despite an English title. In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:23, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
The song title "Seattle" is also an instrumental recording (45RPM) by the band "The Fabulous Wailers" ["Seattle" (Etiquette, 1963)] as shown on "The Fabulous Wailers" wiki page. [1] 130.76.32.51 ( talk) 18:16, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Jan Crutchfield is generally credited as the writer of this song, but David Ruffin is credited as the writer on his 1973 self-titled album. Ruffin also claimed that he wrote the song. The copyright office list both Crutchfield and Ruffin as writers of this song, but does not mention a date. Does anyone know who actually wrote it? 173.51.123.97 ( talk) 07:09, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia states that "The Beastie Boys sampled "Pump It Up" for their song "Egg Man" on their album Paul's Boutique." I can find no evidence of this in the actual song, though Egg Man definitely samples a song with a similar bass line called "Superfly" by Curtis Mayfield. There are no sources cited in the article for the "Egg Man" claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tablesitter ( talk • contribs) 20:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
At Talk:Thirsty (song), a debate started about whether or not streaming should be considered a single format. As this is something that could apply to any single release, and not just the one that sparked the conversation, it would be best to get consensus here and see how we, as a WikiProject, feel about streaming being considered a single format. Pinging those involved in the talk page discussion: @ Calvin999: @ Lil-unique1: @ IndianBio: @ STATicVapor: @ Bluesatellite: — Status ( talk · contribs) 06:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
My main drawback with streaming being used as a single release format is that has any other record charts included streaming actively as one of its component charts except for Billboard? If it is widely being included as one of the components for determining the primary charts, then I'm fine with accepting it as a medium for single release. — Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Stop discussing "Thirty" here. This isn't what this discussion is about. — Status ( talk · contribs) 18:23, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Streaming is a component of the Billboard Hot 100, Hot Country Songs, Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, and Hot Rock Songs - the major genre charts. I don't think there is a separate streaming chart as such but I do think that if a label makes the announcement that a song is a single, and then makes it available to stream it can be referred to as a single. I only think it should be allowed if BOTH of those conditions are met and WP:DUCK applies (if it is promoted and receives a music video etc). However, if a digital or radio date is released, that should be used instead of streaming in the infobox. Songs can now chart as a result of streaming and as we've seen in the UK, some labels don't even release songs for download anymore, instead using an impact day. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 20:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Per Lil-unique1, streaming has been widely recognized by Billboard along with radio airplay and sales. As for @ IndianBio:, streaming has been included on German Singles Chart [3] (previously only sales, now sales+streaming). It will be included on UK Singles Chart as well [4] (currently only sales). Recording Industry Association of America has combined streaming and sales for certification (Lady Gaga's " Bad Romance" is the first Diamond Award recipient of streaming+sales single [5]). IFPI Denmark has also provided certification separately for streaming. [6] So, if the question is "is streaming a single format?", the answer is "if radio airplay is a single format, then so is streaming." Streaming is even recognized by certification providers, but radio airplay is not. Not every song uploaded to streaming provider is called single, just like not every song played on the radio is called single. I personally believe that only official announcements count. If a label / an artist announced a song as a single, then it must be a single (either for sale/radio/streaming). Bluesatellite ( talk) 00:51, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
punto de inicio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.236.12.71 ( talk) 06:48, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello. It has come to my attention that, one year ago, User:Richhoncho removed every "Category:YYYY songs" from their corresponding "Category:YYYY singles" and justified it with "a single is (or was!) a piece of plastic" ( example). Richhoncho also categorized many articles on singles both as "YYYY songs" and "YYYY singles", which I consider redundant, since I always thought singles were just songs released in a special, commercial way. I personally disagree with those changes, not only because we are in the digital download era (a downloaded song is not a piece of plastic), but also because I never knew singles not being songs was something to be so sure about. If that's the new and right way, I'd like to have it confirmed by the fellow members of this project so that I (and other editors in doubt that may consult this topic in the future) can create articles with this in mind. I will also invite members of the WikiProject Music to comment on this matter. Victão Lopes Fala! 20:45, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
The usage of Womanizer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion. See talk:Womanizer (song) where it is requested that the song replace the disambiguation page. -- 65.94.171.126 ( talk) 05:08, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
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I wrote a new article for the Pierce the Veil song "King for a Day" because it got charted at Hot Rock Charts and Digital Rock Songs Charts both published on Billboard. The song was nominated for Best Video and Best Single at the 2013s Kerrang! Awards and won for the best music video. I even found something about the songs background. Sourches are in the article. -- Goroth ( talk) 04:46, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
It has been greatly improved since last assessment. Hope to get a B-class (or even A-class, if yiu guys really have A-class reviews, as I saw it says '4' on A-class article count). Forbidden User ( talk) 14:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
There's an ongoing debate here about whether or not to include the radio version of this song as a single infobox. Additional comments are welcomed. ALittle Quenhi ( talk to me) 06:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
The usage of Dr. Who (song) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, where Dr. Who! (Tujamo and Plastik Funk song) has been requested to be renamed to " Dr. Who (song)". For the discussion, see talk: Dr. Who! (Tujamo and Plastik Funk song) -- 65.94.171.126 ( talk) 05:25, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
For 90% of songs there's only 1 artist. So why then not for such songs always have FOO redirect to FOO (artist song)? Whom does not having the artist name in title benefit? In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:27, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I should say that what I'm asking is purely on the level of what is best for readers, I am trying to understand who benefits from removing an artist name when the redirect redirects there anyway just as redirect
Mozart redirects to
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. This is my question.
I have asked this of a couple of individual editors before and never received an answer. The usual answer is in the lines of "it doesn't help readers, it is
WP:PRECISION" which is fine, we can do things that make life difficult for readers if policy is iron-clad with no exceptions, but
WP:PRECISION says there can be exceptions:
Usually, titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that. For instance, Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta is too precise, as Mother Teresa is precise enough to indicate exactly the same topic. On the other hand, Horowitz would not be precise enough to identify unambiguously the famous classical pianist Vladimir Horowitz. Exceptions to the precision criterion may sometimes result from the application of some other naming criteria. Most of these exceptions are described in specific Wikipedia guidelines or by Wikipedia projects, such as Primary topic, Geographic names, or Names of royals and nobles. For instance:
I feel what we're doing here is akin to Horowitz which would not be precise enough to identify unambiguously the famous classical pianist Vladimir Horowitz. We're creating 1000s of articles which are a giant frustrating guessing game for readers, and for no discernable reason. Why are we doing it? In ictu oculi ( talk) 05:43, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Mayast and Michael Bednarek already explained it all. We don't disambiguate titles if there's no reason for it, and that's everything we need to bear in mind for now. Anyway, this should actually be discussed at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation or somewhere else. Why should song articles work differently than the rest of Wikipedia? Why shouldn't this be applied at album articles too? Let us give a wider group of editors the opportunity to discuss such a change in naming conventions. I would be against it anyway for the aforementioned reasons. Victão Lopes Fala! 15:27, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
When creating an article do not check if another song of the same title is already mentioned in an artist bio or an album article. If you can create the article at FOO then do so. If you cannot create at FOO, create at FOO (song) even if a dozen other songs exist. Do not hatlink the article "for other songs see disambiguation". Do not include the artist name (The Angels song) except as a last resort.
In ictu oculi asked above, For 90% of songs there's only 1 artist. So why then not for such songs always have FOO redirect to FOO (artist song)? Whom does not having the artist name in title benefit? and there doesn't appear to be an answer other than "look at the guidelines." So I would like to ask a slightly reworded version of the question :-
Thanks, -- Richhoncho ( talk) 09:05, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks guys, fair answers, although I would not move, I can't fault your answers. So now I ask question #2
Again, thanks for your answers. Cheers. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 00:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, what exactly is your Harusame question? Completing my comment above: Wikipedia is already quite confusing and technically complex for new editors, why confuse them further by saying "hey, create song articles with the name people would search for, but don't forget about those who could search for another song with that same name"? The possibility of adopting this procedure may pave the way for subsequent oddities such as the ones I cited above. It's all in the same logic of "let me specify X because someone might one day search for Y and they'll be disappointed and unfairly charged for browsing the wrong article in their mobile phones". Films, albums, games... they're all products subjected to having other works with the same name. Why are we only talking about songs? Victão Lopes Fala! 18:13, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
I am totally confused. Where in songdab does it reference primarytopic? There is an inherent contradiction between the two guidelines. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 22:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
There has been much comment regarding “other projects” in this debate and how songs should not differ. Here are some examples variations from other projects.
I would think that there is enough there to confirm that, providing that policies are adhered to, then there is absolutely no reason why songs can’t use more practical guidelines suitable for songs. Cheers. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 09:45, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Participants in this discussion (or other Project participants) may be interested in several current relevant requested moves for song/album articles:
I may have missed a couple. As you can see, the appropriateness of disambiguating songs and albums has been much discussed lately. A lot of the same folks have been contributing over and over (myself included), so it would be good to get fresh perspectives. Dohn joe ( talk) 18:44, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Suddenly a raft of less important Grammy Awards templates are being created. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards and prizes#Grammy Award templates.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:55, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Is " indie-flavoured electronica best described as indie rock-influenced electronica, or indietronica? Adabow ( talk) 08:43, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
When a model becomes the subject of a music video, I noticed that the role is described as "Principle" in some resumes. Others say "Dancer/Model". What is correct? for a music video chronology table with a column for role?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:45, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that there is an entry for an older song with this title but not the new song by Michael Franti. I'm not really into editing Wikipedia but thought someone who does do editing would like to know. Just FYI. 50.39.121.52 ( talk) 20:12, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
There is a current discussion on whether or not the certifications should be used on the Template:Certification Table Entry. Erick ( talk) 22:11, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
can somebody please help me find free use of an image for the song cover of "Hella Hoes" by ASAP Mob.? I cant find the image on any free use site (could you also provide some websites that have free images?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camcamhamham ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Renaming discussion is taking place. -- George Ho ( talk) 06:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
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198.23.5.73 (
talk) 00:30, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't this ' Shutterbug' page be on Wiktionary instead of Wikipedia. It talks about a term in particular and is not a very notable song as such. No other details are included anyway. Surprisingly, though the piece was quite informative, it's a new addition to the English language as not many reputed Dictionaries have included it as yet. So keeping it under Wiktionary would make more sense.
AnnieAnanya ( talk) 07:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC)Annie
Shouldn't this song by included. I couldn't remember the title so came here to look for it but couldn't find it. Not sure what city this is about, but a song about the Detroit riot by Gordon Lightfoot, Black Day in July, made me remember Phil sang a similar song. I have vague memories of those days, the daily body count announced on the TV every night still haunts and I lived in the country, so the riots in the cities didn't strike me as being as terrible as they were as they might now. But that was a terrible time.
So it goes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.187.196.189 ( talk) 04:11, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Page move discussion still ongoing. -- George Ho ( talk) 19:01, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
An anon has been repeatedly adding a Gwar version to the " Carry On Wayward Son" article, but there's no discussion of it in the article, although the anon has been adding a link to Loudwire, http://loudwire.com/gwar-play-hilarious-cover-of-kansas-carry-on-my-wayward-son/ and a link to YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIl7d1VVwOc to support its notability. Could someone please either write a paragraph about the cover version, or explain to the anon why it's not really appropriate (or my why it is)? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 00:17, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at the featured article candidates talk page about critical reception sections in music articles which members of this Wikiproject may be interested in. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 02:10, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
The usage of Hello Kitty (song) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see Talk:Hello Kitty (Avril Lavigne song) -- 70.51.46.146 ( talk) 05:38, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I Hope You Find It, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. BlueMoonset ( talk) 00:07, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
HI I created this. Feel free to begin a detailed series of categories of music video filming locations. The UK could be split by county/city and have categories like Category:Music videos shot in Manchester. @ Ritchie333: might be interested.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:30, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Discussion still intact; join in. -- George Ho ( talk) 21:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
FWIW, there is a discussion on what Makes a single on our sister project. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 12:45, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Please, check my topic here. -- 188.135.197.238 ( talk) 12:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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The current text states that the protagonist of the song is caring for her premature child, but the lyrics state that she was premature: "I was born three months too early The doctors gave me thirty days"
The lyrics that mention her kids don't say anything about them being premature: "A single mom who works two jobs Who loves her kids and never stops With gentle hands and a heart of a fighter I'm a survivor"
A consistent theme throughout the song is that she faces adversity without giving up, no matter how hard things get.
All lyrics quoted from Cite error: The <ref>
tag has too many names (see the
help page).
71.46.65.22 (
talk) 03:32, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#VG comments subpages regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Songs articles that would be affected by this action are these:
If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Songs' use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. - Thibbs ( talk) 15:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
I've started a peer review for the WP:GA quality article, R U Professional.
Comments to help further improve quality would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/R U Professional/archive1.
— Cirt ( talk) 19:20, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Page move proposed; discuss it there by clicking above. -- George Ho ( talk) 17:44, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Third page move proposal discussed; join in. -- George Ho ( talk) 17:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
This received no commentary during its first week and has been relisted. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 06:14, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
This song was published in 1944 and Marion Hutton sang the song in the 1944 Abbott and Costello picture "In Society". It was also a feature song of Gracie Fields when she toured Australia and New Zealand. [2] DL Hewitt ( talk) 23:41, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
References
Is there is list of acceptable external lyrics databases to link to? More specifically, is http://www.lyricsondemand.com/ properly licenced, as this anon claims? Adabow ( talk) 03:43, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
The author of the hymn, "Blood-washed Pilgrim" is listed as John Matthias, but a song bearing striking similarities was authored by Russell Kelso Carter, who also wrote "Standing On The Promises". He wrote it in the mid-late 1880s. Are these the same songs? Did Kelso use Matthias' song? The information on both versions can be found at this site below, along with scanned copies of both songs (Matthias' hymn is a separate search).
http://www.hymnary.org/person/Carter_RK
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I've nominated a WP:FA article related to this project for WP:TFAR consideration as Today's Featured Article, please see discussion at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Irreplaceable. — Cirt ( talk) 20:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Page move is requested; comment there. -- George Ho ( talk) 07:17, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
This is a notice about Category:Songs articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock ( talk) 20:07, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
An editor recently removed songwriters from the writer category tree without input from anyone, thus some other opinions are needed in order to develop a consensus. Please see the discussion here: Category talk:Songwriters. Your project is the only one with a tag on the related Songwriter article. Aboutmovies ( talk) 04:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I do not understand the "rating" of an article I wrote for German Wikipedia and which a friend translated to English. Talk:All for the Beatles. What does it mean and how can this be helpful for whom? The article is complete, there are no furter information known about this song. -- Krächz ( talk) 23:58, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Does this policy pertain to discussion of a rendition only, or does it extend even to mentioning a rendition in a list? ⌘ ⇔ ChristTrekker 15:39, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
All I want to ask for now is the genre of the songs My Way and Boiler by Limp Bizkit ?? Is it Nu Metal or Rap Rock or Rap Metal or a combination of any two of these genres or all three at once ?? Please help me out..... DtwipzB Talk 14:18, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I'm looking for a little guidance establishing notability for songs in South Korea. Pretty much every song released in Korea charts on at least one version of the primary national chart in that country, Gaon. (There was Billboard chart for about three years but it has folded.) Thus, according to Wikipedia's notability requirements, every song, no matter how minor, qualifies for an article. We have a huge glut of articles of what are realistically non-notable songs, and I could use some clarification with the following scenarios:
So in the end, we have a gazillion songs that all claim notability, because charting on a major national chart is the only notability requirement for songs, as far as I can tell. Yet these are songs that pretty much no one ever heard other than hardcore fans. This is genre filled with very passionate, very inclusionist editors, so they take those requirements entirely literally when justifying these articles. I'm going to post this over at the record charts Wikiproject for their perspectives also. Thanks for any guidance. Shinyang-i ( talk) 05:39, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
talking about versions, the colombian singer luz aída made a castilan' one about 1980 known as "solo estás tú" (only you are) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertogestor ( talk • contribs) 01:50, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
I notice that many articles have used the "misc" field of the single infobox to include a link to the music video (on artist's official youtube, no copyright violations). Is this appropriate? Is it appropriate to link to the music video in the external links section? I saw some old discussion on this subject but wanted to know if I'd missed any recent changes. It impressed me as being a little bit WP:PROMO, so I thought I'd ask for an opinion here. Thanks! Shinyang-i ( talk) 04:50, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
When this song was first released with video, it was a much different video than the one that now accompanies it. The original video had a combat theme with a soldier's flashbacks. Why was it changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.155.133.67 ( talk) 04:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
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A user is disputing the use of the term " one of the best-selling singles of all-time" on Talk:Meghan Trainor, a term used widely among GA-class song articles as well, such as Poker Face (Lady Gaga song), ...Baby One More Time, Bad Romance, Just the Way You Are (Bruno Mars song), Waka Waka (This Time For Africa) among many others. The user feels that it is WP:OR and WP:PEACOCK to use the term without a source that directly refers to the song as "one of the best-selling singles of all-time" irregardless of if it features on the List of best-selling singles or not. On the same page the use of the term singer-songwriter is also being disputed. Comments will be appreciated at Talk:Meghan Trainor. - Lips are movin 21:20, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
@ Lips Are Movin and Winkelvi: It's perfectly fine to ask for input on Wikiprojects, it is not canvassing. WV is correct that such statement need to be cited, with a reliable source. Lapadite ( talk) 17:31, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello. There are many, many articles for Korean pop songs. As with most songs, most do not meet notability guidelines, even though they may have been hits. A few have been AFD'd and have had to be relisted many times due to few comments or high levels of fancommenting. It's been a real fight and pretty unpleasant. Even big hits have virtually no information published about them, and most sections recommended on the MOS for this project are left blank. The articles can never realistically become anything more than personnel and chart listings, and maybe a description of the music video. This is, of course, compounded by a lack of reliable sources in English, but honestly, Korean pop is a commercial entity, not an art, so no one writes about chord structures even (especially) in Korean. Given that multiple groups have maybe 10 or 12 non-notable song articles apiece and the difficulty of persuading kpop fans that most songs are not notable, does anyone have advice for getting these articles successfully and succinctly AFD'd? As long as they stay, editors think it means every new song deserves an article and continue to create articles for every new song, too. Thank you for any advice. Shinyang-i ( talk) 05:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Interested editors are invited to discuss whether or not there should be a primary topic for "Cry Me a River". Talk:Cry Me a River#Requested move 27 January 2015. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 23:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello. I'm a member of WP:KOREA and I'm in the process of merging a bunch of song articles with their relevant album or EP articles. I'm not a member of WP Songs, but if no one has an objection, I will change the "class" field on the WP Songs talk page tag to "redirect" as I'm adding the "this article was merged to..." template. I'd been just deleting them but another editor re-added the tag with that class change, so upon advice from another editor I will do that instead. Please let me know if you'd prefer I take some other action instead. Thanks! Shinyang-i ( talk) 03:42, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
During a program on David Steinberg, popular comedian from the 1960's and 1970's I was interested to find that he was a neighbor to Carly Simon and a sister. During which, according to the program that they became close. It was early in both careers but the friendship remains to this day. During an interview for the program Simon somewhat describes aspects of the "Your So Vain" character being similar to the way Steinberg acted at that time being high sought out from many females leaving Simon to be somewhat of a "wingman". I think the Wiki article for one the missing persons is David Steinberg21:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx317 ( talk • contribs)
could someone add the Lyrics of the song Elan by Nightwish to its page? and if anyone can, could someone add a clip to the song's page as well?
ah ok. I thought the clip might be a copyright problem, but i didn't know that the lyrics might be copyrighted, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SGA314 ( talk • contribs) 16:25, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
I've seen Popdust used as a source for song/album reviews (e.g. On the Rocks (Nicole Scherzinger song) and Trouble (Iggy Azalea song)). Is this website a valid source for reviews? Jacques Peterson is called a "famous U.S. music critic" here, but KpopStarz isn't exactly a reliable source. Random86 ( talk) 02:36, 11 March 2015 (UTC)