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Perhaps someone from this WikiProject can help out at Talk:Vessel Drum and Bugle Corps#Untitled? Someone who represents the organization is seeking assistance and they might find it helpful to discuss some of their concerns with other Wikipedians are more familiar with this genre of article. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 04:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
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Many articles for drum corps are have been deleted or are being considered for deletion Blake675 ( talk) 21:10, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- I tend to frequent other areas of Wikipedia and don't land on drum corps pages very often, but I do so once in a while and I just noticed that there is some aggressive deletion going on, and it seems to be driven by editors/admins who don't have any familiarity with the activity, making arguments along lines such as "The page about corps X should be deleted because they have never had competitive success, with no history of finishing in the top 3". This ignores the high visibility and influence that all of the DCI corps finishing in the top 12 get by virtue of being in the Finals broadcast and in the recordings, and classes as "not notable due to no competitive success" some incredibly influential corps like the Crossmen, who have appeared in the DCI Finals 29 times! The other argument seems to be that since drum corps don't get a lot of mainstream press coverage, they are not notable according to Wikipedia's standards. (Coverage in periodicals about marching music, e.g., Drum Corps World, apparently does not count for anything.) This is maybe a good argument for a traditional encyclopedia (i.e., the print ones that mostly no longer exist), but not for Wikipedia, where there are many, many topics that are accepted as "notable" and have much smaller number of people who know or think much about the topic in question than drum corps, which has hundreds of thousands of people in this category if you count participants, spectators, and fans. I don't really know how to counter this or where to argue about it, though, as the deletions are happening in piecemeal fashion and there isn't a central place to discuss what really should count as relevant for inclusion in Wikipedia. Suggetions? Dr.RMills ( talk) 05:51, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
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Aymatth2 (
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On the pages where the bands have repertoires or programs, only the composers or performers are linked. What about the music itself? AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 23:03, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
I'm noticing that the tables for Yearly programs and score aren't standarized between corps, especially between DCI and DCA/former DCA corps. Should that be something to consider or apply? Hiya2527 ( talk) 02:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
| This is the
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Perhaps someone from this WikiProject can help out at Talk:Vessel Drum and Bugle Corps#Untitled? Someone who represents the organization is seeking assistance and they might find it helpful to discuss some of their concerns with other Wikipedians are more familiar with this genre of article. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 04:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Sabian listed at Requested moves
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Many articles for drum corps are have been deleted or are being considered for deletion Blake675 ( talk) 21:10, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- I tend to frequent other areas of Wikipedia and don't land on drum corps pages very often, but I do so once in a while and I just noticed that there is some aggressive deletion going on, and it seems to be driven by editors/admins who don't have any familiarity with the activity, making arguments along lines such as "The page about corps X should be deleted because they have never had competitive success, with no history of finishing in the top 3". This ignores the high visibility and influence that all of the DCI corps finishing in the top 12 get by virtue of being in the Finals broadcast and in the recordings, and classes as "not notable due to no competitive success" some incredibly influential corps like the Crossmen, who have appeared in the DCI Finals 29 times! The other argument seems to be that since drum corps don't get a lot of mainstream press coverage, they are not notable according to Wikipedia's standards. (Coverage in periodicals about marching music, e.g., Drum Corps World, apparently does not count for anything.) This is maybe a good argument for a traditional encyclopedia (i.e., the print ones that mostly no longer exist), but not for Wikipedia, where there are many, many topics that are accepted as "notable" and have much smaller number of people who know or think much about the topic in question than drum corps, which has hundreds of thousands of people in this category if you count participants, spectators, and fans. I don't really know how to counter this or where to argue about it, though, as the deletions are happening in piecemeal fashion and there isn't a central place to discuss what really should count as relevant for inclusion in Wikipedia. Suggetions? Dr.RMills ( talk) 05:51, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at
Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent
Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{
WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.
No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{ WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.
However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{
WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present.
Aymatth2 (
talk) 16:52, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
On the pages where the bands have repertoires or programs, only the composers or performers are linked. What about the music itself? AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 23:03, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
I'm noticing that the tables for Yearly programs and score aren't standarized between corps, especially between DCI and DCA/former DCA corps. Should that be something to consider or apply? Hiya2527 ( talk) 02:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)