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in useful reminders "when deletion is not an option" and "deletion policy" both link to the same thing.
sigh. (just needed to vent) Bwithh 22:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Ugh! OK, that bums me out. As does this yardstick of notability. How about, at least, if there are no secondary sources, then they're not notable... Pete.Hurd 05:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
As we all know, wikipedia is being flooded with minor news stories that will completely fail the 100-year test, such as
2007 Western United States freeze
2006 Auckland Blackout. There is currently no policy that addresses these articles, and they all pass
WP:N as they've been featured in multiple published works. I am of the opinion, and I've noticed that others agree with me, that not only do these pages clog up wikipedia with poorly-written non-notable articles that will never be revisited a week after their creation, but they undermine wikinews, whose primary goal is to report these events.
Obviously, not all news events are non-notable - for example, see 2003 invasion of Iraq - so I don't think we should cull all news-related articles. I do, however, think that we should create a guideline that addresses the historical importance of these events.
This guideline should take the following into account:
If an article doesn't meet these criteria, there is very little chance of it being revisited, and therefore very little chance that it will ever become a good article. It should be taken to wikinews instead, where such articles are welcome.
What do you guys think? Any suggestions?
Ultra-Loser [ T ] [ C ] 02:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(news). He just let me know on my userpage and I wanted to bring this to the attention of the project. (I do have stuff to say on this subject but need to think more about it) Bwithh 08:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I've started setting up the framework for reviewing articles. The goal , of course, is to FIX an article so that we don't need to delete it. I think we can all agree that only articles that fail the policies need deletion, so we typically have a three-step framework here.
1) Someone comes up with a list of possible remedies. As an example, a list might be "source the article, and if we can't make sure we can verify it. If we can verify it, stub it, otherwise delete it."
2) We try to fix the article ourselves. Sourcing, notability support, wikifying, whatever. If we can't, we take a very quick straw poll on whether the article is "for shit" or if we proceed down the list of remedies.
3) If the article is officially "for shit" (fails ALL of the following WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:OR, then we go ahead and nom for deletion. Otherwise, we proceed down the list of remedies.
The goal is fourfold here.
So, ideas? Feedback? -- Elar a girl Talk| Count 09:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
An interesting effort by User:Trialsanderrors to look at WP:N. Some good ideas, others perhaps not so wonderful, but my first impression is that it is progress. See User:Trialsanderrors/On notability. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deletion I kind of want to mount this on a wall somewhere here like a moose head Bwithh 08:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common Dreams NewsCenter would benefit from editors who don't have a political axe to grind. Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Did some scoring recently. Out of 10 random AfD's, I could only find one keep I disagreed with, but two deletes that I might have voted keep on, and both of those went back to DRV and were overturned.
Biggest issue is definitely neglected AfD. This is where things get abused, articles can be wrongly deleted out of hand. -- Elar a girl Talk| Count 18:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
This Wikiproject is for realists, not deletionists, correct? I pray that the right mindsets join this project. — Deckill er 00:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I listed Template:Anglicanism2 for deletion on MfD. Did I do everything correctly? This is my first *fD posting. Kyaa the Catlord 13:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I nominated my first article for deletion today, Coney Island Hot Dog Stand. Why can't I see it on today's list? Kyaa the Catlord 15:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
User:GRBerry/Deletion Log Stats contains a statistical summary of all items deleted on January 24, my time zone. I just finished parsing deletion reasons last night. It is an Excel file with pivot table on my home computer, so if analysis of a particular sub-set of the data (eg, Image space only, or non-redirect (Main) space only, or Articles deleted by the 10 most active admins, or...) is requested, I can do it but only at certain times of the day. Already analyzed: activity by namespace, activity by reasons, activity by admin. GRBerry 15:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Randy_Conrad. I actually though this would survive an afd, but it seems to have been unanimously given a delete consensus by other editors (I didn't even know it had been nom'd). I fully expect this to turn up at DRV soon with the argument that "its a DYK article, and it is unacceptable to have redlinks in the DYK archive" plus "this guy appeared on TV and in local newspapers". Bwithh 16:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I ended up doing some poking around in two books I owned about anime and manga (bought them when I was on a big Macross kick). There's some notability in here for a lot of these minor suits, I think, although it is difficult to find.
I've stated before that if something can be sourced, it should be. After a rather long series of posts on WP:GUNDAM, I think I'm beginning to see the scope of the problem.
It's not that the things aren't notable. Most of the sourcing is buried in Japanese, which I can't fucking read very well. Lots of it is scattered around rather obscure books like the ones I own. Certainly we know Gundam itself is notable. A lot of the minor suits may or may not be notable. But the REAL issue is that the people writing the articles aren't focused on showing notability.
It's not easy to write, or to learn to create articles, that will stand up to an AfD. I suspect everyone in WP:SCISSORS does it naturally because of the way we think, but this is, in our own way, a sort of systemic bias. I was making what I intended to be a stub yesterday and I ended up finding five mainstream sources for it. Most people don't make articles that way.
With the Gundam articles, some of the stuff, like the RX-78, was clearly notable. But finding signs of it was difficult. A lot of the stats and history are available in a number of places, a lot of the artwork for some suits influnced later things such as Battletech and Robotech. But the people making the articles don't think to include that stuff -- or in some case, know where to FIND it.
I remain unconvinced that the best thing to do to unsourced articles is to delete them out of hand until and unless an attempt is made to source them. I assumed, and I think most of the people voting in these AfD's assumed, that the articles COULD not be sourced reliably. I'm beginning to think that some people writing them don't see the POINT of sourcing them reliably. "Well, if my sources aren't good enough for you, too bad" seems to be the mindset for some of them. This is more due to the fact that they aren't here to do anything but write articles for what they like. AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
But no one else is making an attempt to fix what is wrong here. I'd like to see some firm guidelines one what makes things notable. Star Wars has a lot of problems with some minor elements in the same fashion as Gundam does. I don't want to delete things (I'm not a believer that calling something "cruft" magically means I can delete it at will) until I'm convinced they can't be sourced. Right now, I think many of these can be sourced and just haven't been.
Thoughts?-- Elar a girl Talk| Count 18:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've created {{ FindSources}} to help... well... find sources really. Especially in AfDs and so forth. Addhoc 13:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Fyi, another editor I have never encountered before has come along and accusing me of "rampant experimentation", has reverted all my changes to the template (which did not make it "radically" different as he suggests, I think) and basically told me to get my own page. Oh well. Bwithh Join Up! See the World!
I've written one on the above topic at User:Moreschi/My left sock. Something we all know already but I thought it would be useful to have a model we could check against if it is suspected that an article matches this "My left sock" pattern. Cheers, Moreschi Request a recording? 17:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello, deletionists. Not sure if you as a group have came across this issue before, but take a look at the articles in Category:Japanese porn stars. Now I'm sure some of these people are notable. But then there are articles like: Saya Misaki, Kyoko Ayana, Yuria Kato, Miho Maeshima, etc etc. And some of the articles look lengthy, but they seem to be just a description of a porn star's personal life or career, without asserting why the particular porn star is worth noting, if there is anything about her that is worth noting at all. I can't go through all of the articles. Help would be appreciated. I don't care to see WP become a directory of Japanese porn stars. Hong Qi Gong ( Talk - Contribs) 02:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Right, a couple of things. One, this isn't the place for whatever row you fellows have been having. Two, we aren't deletionists here. We are editors interested in deletion. There's a difference. Three, please see WP:PORNBIO and WP:N and work from there. Thank you. Cheers, Moreschi Request a recording? 10:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Although the WP:PORNBIO guideline exists and is quite clear, I think the main problem with attempting to delete these articles is that most contributors to the English wikipedia do not read Japanese, and therefore can't tell if these "actors" meet the criteria. We could always say "there are no English sources on the article that indicate that the subject passes WP:PORNBIO so they probably don't pass it", but most of the people here like to be very sure that, when they're nominating/voting for the deletion of an article, the subject is non-notable. The same applies when checking the stars against WP:V - if we can't read the sources, we can't vote delete on account of them failing WP:V.
Anyone who can read Japanese, however, is free and encouraged to check the articles in question against WP:PORNBIO. I just don't think that people should be voting for the deletion of articles when they can't read the sources. Ultra-Loser [ T ] [ C ] 11:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Moreschi - I apologise if I used the wrong name for members of this WikiProject. But if there's any "row" between me and User:Dekkappai, it is because he takes issue with that I think some of the articles in that category ought to be deleted because the people for which they are created are not notable. Yes, there may be cases where the sources that verify their notability are entirely in Japanese and that presents a difficulty for English WP. However, this does not mean that they should get a free pass to exist just based on an ever-present assumption that they may possibly be verified to be notable - otherwise all articles on subjects of non-English origin could use this justification to stay in existence forever, no matter if these subjects are actually notable or not. What we can see, however, is that some of these articles have existed for a long time, and they remain unable to assert notability. Two out of the four examples I gave in my first comment here were created in 2005, yet the articles are only a few sentences long each. Other examples of these articles exist in the category - a few sentences, a listing of porn movies, and maybe a picture. The only attempt to assert notability seems to be that, for example, so-and-so has "24 DVDs listed on Japanese Amazon.com". Now to the best of my knowledge, that does not establish why someone is notable at all. But again, I am only bringing these articles to your attention, as you seem to know much better than I do what kinds of articles ought to be deleted and what ought to be kept. Hong Qi Gong ( Talk - Contribs) 15:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Deletion review currently has an unusually high level of participation by people that don't appear to be Wikipedia regulars. Anyone with spare time want to help sort out which nominations are legitimate and which aren't? (I will probably be closing most of the reviews, as the new default DRV closer. So I'm not looking into that until they become ripe for closure.) GRBerry 00:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
This article is extremely worrying; an AFD apparently won over by WP:SPAs. Obviously, webcomics are infamously murky, but that this could go unnoticed is unnerving. Gracenotes T § 01:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/02/13/jimmy-wales-wants-to-go-tabloid
I hope these will be legitimate transwiki target sites (without wikinews licensing problems). Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 05:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
is Wikipedia:Attribution replacing WP:V or what? ( WP:Verifiability is still up.)
redirect to WP:ATT created Feb 16: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=WP:V&action=history
Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 05:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've created a {{ Prod-nn}} template, which hopefully is fairly self explanatory... Addhoc 22:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
been taking a little bit of a wikibreak recently, but this whole ridiculous saga by Timothy Noah (see his article and talk page on Timothy Noah) on Slate.com has roused me from my slumber:
http://www.slate.com/id/2160839/
Note that he's not only arguing against all notability guidelines (okay, we can all have a reasonable debate about how well the guidelines are working, though Noah seems to be dismissing them all based on close-to-zero actual wikipedia experience), but he also thinks that he ought to be able to write articles on his cleaning lady and mailman without any independent verifiable sourcing except materials provided by them themselves (and he would be "especially irritated" if other people objected to this). We almost all have government documents, qualification diplomas, school yearbooks and other kinds of certificates and records testifying that we exist and we have done stuff - so we would all deserve a page in Noah's vision (and he doesnt seem bothered about us writing our own articles either - though he insists all this won't turn Wikipedia into MySpace. Well, ok, perhaps not MySpaace (soemthing of a straw man comparison), but more likely a resume dump/social networking site). Anyway, this may be the first mainstream media column promoting extreme inclusionism (admittedly written by someone with very little experience of wikipedia and some shakey journalistic skills - see my comments on the Timothy Noah article talk page) Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 14:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
It would seem that Essjay has been lying to alot of people about alot of things. Some time ago an article was created by a Single Purpose Account to cover the "emerging scandal". The AfD for this article is going to be an AfD for the history books as it looks like alot of users are ignoring the deletion criteria and closing ranks. I would recommend that all interested in the deltion process check out the AfD for the article. NeoFreak 16:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
This article meets the appropriate policies; deleting it would be a move to save face for Wikipedia, which will naturally be seen as bad in the public's eyes. — Deckill er 23:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Everyone should be looking at the new BLP courtesy deletion proposed guildline. If I'm not mistaken this is more fallout from the Essjay incident. The basic idea is that any subject of any Bio can as an admin to delete his bio if he as a problem wit it. Of course there are alot of other stipulations but that's the premise. NeoFreak 18:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else remember Robert McElwaine? His bio is up at AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert E. McElwaine. McElwaine doesn't seem to have managed even Archimedes Plutonium-style minimal real-world celebrity so far as I can see. If anyone is aware of reliablish sources which could be used to rewrite the article, this would be the time to speak up. UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I am asking for your help in evaluating this article for deletion based om WP:NOR criterion. At the first glance the article looks plausible, but after a careful reading, it is nothing more than an exposition of a certain book with occasional supportive references to some other books. The most important issue is that this term (in phylosophical sense) is not the one used in the referenced books, (they talk about "Grand Unified Theory", "Ultimate Theory"), in other words, this term is not a well-established one, and therefore the article is OR. At first I thought it could be salvaged into artice about the book in question, but again it comes to my nimd, lacking secondary sources, it will be still original research.
I do not want to list for nomination all by myself, because I am not an expert in the topic, and my judgement is superficial, therefore I wanted to test my opinion without wasting time of wider crowd.
Please comment. Thank you. Mukadderat 23:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
User:Sceptre/Deletionist cabal. Will ( I hope they cannot see, I AM THE GREAT DESTROYER!) 17:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if there was a criteria for notability of so-called psychics like Chip Coffey. I prodded, but the author deprodded it. hbdragon88 00:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys, I hope you find this category helpful in trimming down unneeded articles in Wikipedia. Some of these articles are notable but some are just articles about a band created one day. I don't know which is which since I'm not an expert when it comes to musical groups. -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
I have requested a bot to generate lists of pages created by single-purpose accounts. The reason for the request is that I expect that many pages created by SPAs will be tests, vanity pages, advertising, and pages that otherwise do not meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. The bot-generated list may make it easier to identify and correct or delete such pages.
Given the effort required to create the bot, it is important to know beforehand whether enough people would be willing to work on the bot-generated list. For more details and to share your thoughts, please see the thread at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Identifying SPA contributions. Thank you, Black Falcon ( Talk) 00:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Can someone nominate List of basketball players. It is (incredibly) unfinished, only lists specific players, and the criteria in undefined Thanks in advanced. Mm40 ( talk) 02:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way we can expand opportunities for caucusing in a way that is fair? Caucusing is typically a normal part of decision-making in large assemblies (see also Wikipedia:PARL#Allowability_of_caucuses). The downside is that the side with a less organized constituency tends to lose, but that already happens. We have some vote stacking going on off-wiki through IRC, chat, email, etc. See also the discussion going on at Wikipedia_talk:Canvassing about whether we should let users opt-in to receive canvassing. Template:Canvass would allow them to set restrictions on such canvassing. The advantage to doing it on-wiki is that it's more transparent, and could help level the playing field between the established users who have these off-wiki communication systems, and relatively new users, or those who have simply spent more time writing articles than making such connections. Obuibo Mbstpo ( talk) 06:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
To avoid or rein in a lot of the AfD arguments relating to articles about crimes that are covered widely in the media, I've proposed a new guideline as an addition to the notability guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (criminal acts) which may be of interest to you, since it may help in AfD debates. Best wishes Fritzpoll ( talk) 17:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
In light of the discussion at WP:CLN it is apparent that lists and categories complement each other on Wikipedia, and are often used to do many of the same things. There is much overlap and duplication between them, and that's good. It is not good when deletion discussions involving them are not handled by the same people. Which is occuring now.
When somebody has a problem with a category they don't like, they come to category-for-deletion WP:CFD, because the criteria are not the the same as for articles (we also have separate deletion discussion boards as you see in WP:XFD, eight in all, for other things). However, when people want to delete a list article ( list of ships, List of trees, List of birds), which is essentialy the same thing as a category, but in list-form, they go to the article deletion discussion page, WP:AFD. That's not good, because the criteria for notable articles are not the same as those for list-articles. The latter only need a header paragraph to explain themselves (see WP:LIST), and then elements which are individually notable. As in List of birds. But other kinds of wiki-articles normally put up for deletion have more stringent notability requirements, and their verifiability methods are not of the same type (a list article many only have hyperlinked elements and nothing else).
All this produces very WP:LAME edit wars, as you see on the WP:DRV page. For example, List of bow tie wearers has been up for deletion 4 times, and has only survived by now having many, many in-article cites, which makes it look very much unlike List of birds. All that because nay-sayers demanded article criteria for what is essentially a category in list-form. You can see much the same type of problem with List of notable people who wore the bowler hat, which is now up for deletion review on WP:DRV on the grounds that some people are arguing that the existence of the list itself needs defending as a point of WP:V, when in fact, this is really a "what categories are natural?" discussion.
Comments? I'm going to repost this around on the several TALK pages which deal with this matter. S B H arris 01:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone. A discussion on whether multilanguage or international publication establishes notability is taking place in WP:BK right here. This is a meaningful opportunity to shape Wikipedia policy regarding this particular issue. I have also notified Wikiproject Inclusion. Estemi ( talk) 04:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I just met an editor who uses deletion templates to either delete or improve articles that he personally thinks are important (using CSD and PROD). Is this proper? (see Gordonrox24 ( talk · contribs)) 76.66.193.69 ( talk) 07:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I've put up a proposal at WT:AfD on which I would appreciate some "deletionist" perspective and feedback: Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#ARSify.3F Jclemens ( talk) 18:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the participant category be Category:WikiProject Deletion participants, instead of Category:WikiProject Deletionism participants? If I understand correctly, the project hasn't been called "WikiProject Deletionism" for years... Jafeluv ( talk) 08:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
You might like Wikipedia:Coordination/afdrelists, which is updated every hour. @ harej 01:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I've started a thread on whether closing rationales should stay optional here. Please contribute! Fences& Windows 01:01, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
What percentage of all the articles created by: a. Non-autoconfirmed registered users b. Auto-confirmed registered users get deleted via: 1. speedy deletion, 2. proposed deletion and 3. articles for deletion? Fences& Windows 23:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I apologize if this is posted anywhere but I couldn't find any mention of it. Does Wikipedia have templates that are only intended for use on one page? Thanks, Uyvsdi ( talk) 03:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi
There needs to be better checks and balances in the process of how articles are currently nominated for deletion, to prevent notable topics from being deleted without actual qualification per Wikipedia article deletion guidelines. This is a significant problem, because it is very likely that notable topics are being injustly deleted. It's easy to nominate an article for deletion and then type five or six words and wait to see if an article will be deleted, whereas it takes more time to refute nominations. Perhaps there should be more sophisticated criterion to nominate articles for deletion. As it is now, anyone can nominate any article without providing a just rationale for doing so, and can instead simply base the nomination upon basic, generic and inspecific statements such as "doesn't pass general notability guidelines", while not specifically stating which parts of the guidelines they are supposedly referring to. If nobody comes along to correct an injust or baseless nomination, the article is then deleted based upon unqualified, general statements that don't actually correspond with the required source searching per WP:BEFORE prior to nominating an article for deletion. This definitely makes it very easy for people to censor Wikipedia, for whatever subjective reasons. Here's how it's done: an article is nominated for deletion and an AfD entry is created, a generic rationale is provided to misqualify the deletion without actually checking for reliable sources to establish topic notability. Afterward, if nobody comes along to correct the faulty nomination, the article is deleted. It's also easy for people to message one-another to delete articles, often per an "as per nom" rationale, while disregarding the actual notability of topics. If nobody comes along and provides an objective analysis to refute the deletion of an article in which the topic is actually notable, nominated per generic statements and without the required source searching prior to nomination, then the article disappears. Hopefully Wikipedia can introduce better checks and balances to prevent this type of easily accomplished, simple censorship. One idea is to include a requirement prior to article nomination for deletion in which the nominator has to state, or check-box on a template, that they've performed the required minimum search in Google Books and in the Google News Archive required by WP:BEFORE, and in Google Scholar for academic subjects, as suggested in WP:BEFORE. This would be a simple addition to the AfD nomination process that would add significant integrity to the process, and would also encourage users to follow the proper procedures.
Please place responses regarding this matter here on this WikiProject Deletion Discussion page below, rather than on my personal talk page. In this manner, other users can view and respond to responses. Thank you. Northamerica1000 ( talk) 08:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
76.65.128.132 ( talk) 05:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Is anyone active in this project? Mad Man American ( talk) 16:44, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
I think it's a good idea to have around. I'd actually like to see this project welcome those of the whole range of opinions on what is/isn't appropriate material for a full article, it's a discussion that needs to be undertaken. Right now, except in dead obvious cases, whether or not an article stays is largely determined by who happens to show up at AfD that day and whether they like it or don't. I think that is far from the ideal situation. I'd like to see the focus on a few questions:
This has been an intractable debate for many years now, and the current state of affairs is that we muddle through case by case, often alienating people on both sides. Without getting into prescriptive, no-exceptions policy, I'd still like to see us have much better written rules that eliminate a lot of uncertainty as to whether an article is appropriate or not. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:47, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
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in useful reminders "when deletion is not an option" and "deletion policy" both link to the same thing.
sigh. (just needed to vent) Bwithh 22:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Ugh! OK, that bums me out. As does this yardstick of notability. How about, at least, if there are no secondary sources, then they're not notable... Pete.Hurd 05:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
As we all know, wikipedia is being flooded with minor news stories that will completely fail the 100-year test, such as
2007 Western United States freeze
2006 Auckland Blackout. There is currently no policy that addresses these articles, and they all pass
WP:N as they've been featured in multiple published works. I am of the opinion, and I've noticed that others agree with me, that not only do these pages clog up wikipedia with poorly-written non-notable articles that will never be revisited a week after their creation, but they undermine wikinews, whose primary goal is to report these events.
Obviously, not all news events are non-notable - for example, see 2003 invasion of Iraq - so I don't think we should cull all news-related articles. I do, however, think that we should create a guideline that addresses the historical importance of these events.
This guideline should take the following into account:
If an article doesn't meet these criteria, there is very little chance of it being revisited, and therefore very little chance that it will ever become a good article. It should be taken to wikinews instead, where such articles are welcome.
What do you guys think? Any suggestions?
Ultra-Loser [ T ] [ C ] 02:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(news). He just let me know on my userpage and I wanted to bring this to the attention of the project. (I do have stuff to say on this subject but need to think more about it) Bwithh 08:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I've started setting up the framework for reviewing articles. The goal , of course, is to FIX an article so that we don't need to delete it. I think we can all agree that only articles that fail the policies need deletion, so we typically have a three-step framework here.
1) Someone comes up with a list of possible remedies. As an example, a list might be "source the article, and if we can't make sure we can verify it. If we can verify it, stub it, otherwise delete it."
2) We try to fix the article ourselves. Sourcing, notability support, wikifying, whatever. If we can't, we take a very quick straw poll on whether the article is "for shit" or if we proceed down the list of remedies.
3) If the article is officially "for shit" (fails ALL of the following WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:OR, then we go ahead and nom for deletion. Otherwise, we proceed down the list of remedies.
The goal is fourfold here.
So, ideas? Feedback? -- Elar a girl Talk| Count 09:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
An interesting effort by User:Trialsanderrors to look at WP:N. Some good ideas, others perhaps not so wonderful, but my first impression is that it is progress. See User:Trialsanderrors/On notability. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deletion I kind of want to mount this on a wall somewhere here like a moose head Bwithh 08:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common Dreams NewsCenter would benefit from editors who don't have a political axe to grind. Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Did some scoring recently. Out of 10 random AfD's, I could only find one keep I disagreed with, but two deletes that I might have voted keep on, and both of those went back to DRV and were overturned.
Biggest issue is definitely neglected AfD. This is where things get abused, articles can be wrongly deleted out of hand. -- Elar a girl Talk| Count 18:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
This Wikiproject is for realists, not deletionists, correct? I pray that the right mindsets join this project. — Deckill er 00:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I listed Template:Anglicanism2 for deletion on MfD. Did I do everything correctly? This is my first *fD posting. Kyaa the Catlord 13:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I nominated my first article for deletion today, Coney Island Hot Dog Stand. Why can't I see it on today's list? Kyaa the Catlord 15:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
User:GRBerry/Deletion Log Stats contains a statistical summary of all items deleted on January 24, my time zone. I just finished parsing deletion reasons last night. It is an Excel file with pivot table on my home computer, so if analysis of a particular sub-set of the data (eg, Image space only, or non-redirect (Main) space only, or Articles deleted by the 10 most active admins, or...) is requested, I can do it but only at certain times of the day. Already analyzed: activity by namespace, activity by reasons, activity by admin. GRBerry 15:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Randy_Conrad. I actually though this would survive an afd, but it seems to have been unanimously given a delete consensus by other editors (I didn't even know it had been nom'd). I fully expect this to turn up at DRV soon with the argument that "its a DYK article, and it is unacceptable to have redlinks in the DYK archive" plus "this guy appeared on TV and in local newspapers". Bwithh 16:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I ended up doing some poking around in two books I owned about anime and manga (bought them when I was on a big Macross kick). There's some notability in here for a lot of these minor suits, I think, although it is difficult to find.
I've stated before that if something can be sourced, it should be. After a rather long series of posts on WP:GUNDAM, I think I'm beginning to see the scope of the problem.
It's not that the things aren't notable. Most of the sourcing is buried in Japanese, which I can't fucking read very well. Lots of it is scattered around rather obscure books like the ones I own. Certainly we know Gundam itself is notable. A lot of the minor suits may or may not be notable. But the REAL issue is that the people writing the articles aren't focused on showing notability.
It's not easy to write, or to learn to create articles, that will stand up to an AfD. I suspect everyone in WP:SCISSORS does it naturally because of the way we think, but this is, in our own way, a sort of systemic bias. I was making what I intended to be a stub yesterday and I ended up finding five mainstream sources for it. Most people don't make articles that way.
With the Gundam articles, some of the stuff, like the RX-78, was clearly notable. But finding signs of it was difficult. A lot of the stats and history are available in a number of places, a lot of the artwork for some suits influnced later things such as Battletech and Robotech. But the people making the articles don't think to include that stuff -- or in some case, know where to FIND it.
I remain unconvinced that the best thing to do to unsourced articles is to delete them out of hand until and unless an attempt is made to source them. I assumed, and I think most of the people voting in these AfD's assumed, that the articles COULD not be sourced reliably. I'm beginning to think that some people writing them don't see the POINT of sourcing them reliably. "Well, if my sources aren't good enough for you, too bad" seems to be the mindset for some of them. This is more due to the fact that they aren't here to do anything but write articles for what they like. AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
But no one else is making an attempt to fix what is wrong here. I'd like to see some firm guidelines one what makes things notable. Star Wars has a lot of problems with some minor elements in the same fashion as Gundam does. I don't want to delete things (I'm not a believer that calling something "cruft" magically means I can delete it at will) until I'm convinced they can't be sourced. Right now, I think many of these can be sourced and just haven't been.
Thoughts?-- Elar a girl Talk| Count 18:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've created {{ FindSources}} to help... well... find sources really. Especially in AfDs and so forth. Addhoc 13:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Fyi, another editor I have never encountered before has come along and accusing me of "rampant experimentation", has reverted all my changes to the template (which did not make it "radically" different as he suggests, I think) and basically told me to get my own page. Oh well. Bwithh Join Up! See the World!
I've written one on the above topic at User:Moreschi/My left sock. Something we all know already but I thought it would be useful to have a model we could check against if it is suspected that an article matches this "My left sock" pattern. Cheers, Moreschi Request a recording? 17:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello, deletionists. Not sure if you as a group have came across this issue before, but take a look at the articles in Category:Japanese porn stars. Now I'm sure some of these people are notable. But then there are articles like: Saya Misaki, Kyoko Ayana, Yuria Kato, Miho Maeshima, etc etc. And some of the articles look lengthy, but they seem to be just a description of a porn star's personal life or career, without asserting why the particular porn star is worth noting, if there is anything about her that is worth noting at all. I can't go through all of the articles. Help would be appreciated. I don't care to see WP become a directory of Japanese porn stars. Hong Qi Gong ( Talk - Contribs) 02:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Right, a couple of things. One, this isn't the place for whatever row you fellows have been having. Two, we aren't deletionists here. We are editors interested in deletion. There's a difference. Three, please see WP:PORNBIO and WP:N and work from there. Thank you. Cheers, Moreschi Request a recording? 10:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Although the WP:PORNBIO guideline exists and is quite clear, I think the main problem with attempting to delete these articles is that most contributors to the English wikipedia do not read Japanese, and therefore can't tell if these "actors" meet the criteria. We could always say "there are no English sources on the article that indicate that the subject passes WP:PORNBIO so they probably don't pass it", but most of the people here like to be very sure that, when they're nominating/voting for the deletion of an article, the subject is non-notable. The same applies when checking the stars against WP:V - if we can't read the sources, we can't vote delete on account of them failing WP:V.
Anyone who can read Japanese, however, is free and encouraged to check the articles in question against WP:PORNBIO. I just don't think that people should be voting for the deletion of articles when they can't read the sources. Ultra-Loser [ T ] [ C ] 11:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Moreschi - I apologise if I used the wrong name for members of this WikiProject. But if there's any "row" between me and User:Dekkappai, it is because he takes issue with that I think some of the articles in that category ought to be deleted because the people for which they are created are not notable. Yes, there may be cases where the sources that verify their notability are entirely in Japanese and that presents a difficulty for English WP. However, this does not mean that they should get a free pass to exist just based on an ever-present assumption that they may possibly be verified to be notable - otherwise all articles on subjects of non-English origin could use this justification to stay in existence forever, no matter if these subjects are actually notable or not. What we can see, however, is that some of these articles have existed for a long time, and they remain unable to assert notability. Two out of the four examples I gave in my first comment here were created in 2005, yet the articles are only a few sentences long each. Other examples of these articles exist in the category - a few sentences, a listing of porn movies, and maybe a picture. The only attempt to assert notability seems to be that, for example, so-and-so has "24 DVDs listed on Japanese Amazon.com". Now to the best of my knowledge, that does not establish why someone is notable at all. But again, I am only bringing these articles to your attention, as you seem to know much better than I do what kinds of articles ought to be deleted and what ought to be kept. Hong Qi Gong ( Talk - Contribs) 15:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Deletion review currently has an unusually high level of participation by people that don't appear to be Wikipedia regulars. Anyone with spare time want to help sort out which nominations are legitimate and which aren't? (I will probably be closing most of the reviews, as the new default DRV closer. So I'm not looking into that until they become ripe for closure.) GRBerry 00:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
This article is extremely worrying; an AFD apparently won over by WP:SPAs. Obviously, webcomics are infamously murky, but that this could go unnoticed is unnerving. Gracenotes T § 01:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/02/13/jimmy-wales-wants-to-go-tabloid
I hope these will be legitimate transwiki target sites (without wikinews licensing problems). Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 05:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
is Wikipedia:Attribution replacing WP:V or what? ( WP:Verifiability is still up.)
redirect to WP:ATT created Feb 16: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=WP:V&action=history
Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 05:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've created a {{ Prod-nn}} template, which hopefully is fairly self explanatory... Addhoc 22:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
been taking a little bit of a wikibreak recently, but this whole ridiculous saga by Timothy Noah (see his article and talk page on Timothy Noah) on Slate.com has roused me from my slumber:
http://www.slate.com/id/2160839/
Note that he's not only arguing against all notability guidelines (okay, we can all have a reasonable debate about how well the guidelines are working, though Noah seems to be dismissing them all based on close-to-zero actual wikipedia experience), but he also thinks that he ought to be able to write articles on his cleaning lady and mailman without any independent verifiable sourcing except materials provided by them themselves (and he would be "especially irritated" if other people objected to this). We almost all have government documents, qualification diplomas, school yearbooks and other kinds of certificates and records testifying that we exist and we have done stuff - so we would all deserve a page in Noah's vision (and he doesnt seem bothered about us writing our own articles either - though he insists all this won't turn Wikipedia into MySpace. Well, ok, perhaps not MySpaace (soemthing of a straw man comparison), but more likely a resume dump/social networking site). Anyway, this may be the first mainstream media column promoting extreme inclusionism (admittedly written by someone with very little experience of wikipedia and some shakey journalistic skills - see my comments on the Timothy Noah article talk page) Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 14:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
It would seem that Essjay has been lying to alot of people about alot of things. Some time ago an article was created by a Single Purpose Account to cover the "emerging scandal". The AfD for this article is going to be an AfD for the history books as it looks like alot of users are ignoring the deletion criteria and closing ranks. I would recommend that all interested in the deltion process check out the AfD for the article. NeoFreak 16:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
This article meets the appropriate policies; deleting it would be a move to save face for Wikipedia, which will naturally be seen as bad in the public's eyes. — Deckill er 23:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Everyone should be looking at the new BLP courtesy deletion proposed guildline. If I'm not mistaken this is more fallout from the Essjay incident. The basic idea is that any subject of any Bio can as an admin to delete his bio if he as a problem wit it. Of course there are alot of other stipulations but that's the premise. NeoFreak 18:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else remember Robert McElwaine? His bio is up at AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert E. McElwaine. McElwaine doesn't seem to have managed even Archimedes Plutonium-style minimal real-world celebrity so far as I can see. If anyone is aware of reliablish sources which could be used to rewrite the article, this would be the time to speak up. UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I am asking for your help in evaluating this article for deletion based om WP:NOR criterion. At the first glance the article looks plausible, but after a careful reading, it is nothing more than an exposition of a certain book with occasional supportive references to some other books. The most important issue is that this term (in phylosophical sense) is not the one used in the referenced books, (they talk about "Grand Unified Theory", "Ultimate Theory"), in other words, this term is not a well-established one, and therefore the article is OR. At first I thought it could be salvaged into artice about the book in question, but again it comes to my nimd, lacking secondary sources, it will be still original research.
I do not want to list for nomination all by myself, because I am not an expert in the topic, and my judgement is superficial, therefore I wanted to test my opinion without wasting time of wider crowd.
Please comment. Thank you. Mukadderat 23:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
User:Sceptre/Deletionist cabal. Will ( I hope they cannot see, I AM THE GREAT DESTROYER!) 17:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if there was a criteria for notability of so-called psychics like Chip Coffey. I prodded, but the author deprodded it. hbdragon88 00:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys, I hope you find this category helpful in trimming down unneeded articles in Wikipedia. Some of these articles are notable but some are just articles about a band created one day. I don't know which is which since I'm not an expert when it comes to musical groups. -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
I have requested a bot to generate lists of pages created by single-purpose accounts. The reason for the request is that I expect that many pages created by SPAs will be tests, vanity pages, advertising, and pages that otherwise do not meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. The bot-generated list may make it easier to identify and correct or delete such pages.
Given the effort required to create the bot, it is important to know beforehand whether enough people would be willing to work on the bot-generated list. For more details and to share your thoughts, please see the thread at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Identifying SPA contributions. Thank you, Black Falcon ( Talk) 00:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Can someone nominate List of basketball players. It is (incredibly) unfinished, only lists specific players, and the criteria in undefined Thanks in advanced. Mm40 ( talk) 02:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way we can expand opportunities for caucusing in a way that is fair? Caucusing is typically a normal part of decision-making in large assemblies (see also Wikipedia:PARL#Allowability_of_caucuses). The downside is that the side with a less organized constituency tends to lose, but that already happens. We have some vote stacking going on off-wiki through IRC, chat, email, etc. See also the discussion going on at Wikipedia_talk:Canvassing about whether we should let users opt-in to receive canvassing. Template:Canvass would allow them to set restrictions on such canvassing. The advantage to doing it on-wiki is that it's more transparent, and could help level the playing field between the established users who have these off-wiki communication systems, and relatively new users, or those who have simply spent more time writing articles than making such connections. Obuibo Mbstpo ( talk) 06:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
To avoid or rein in a lot of the AfD arguments relating to articles about crimes that are covered widely in the media, I've proposed a new guideline as an addition to the notability guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (criminal acts) which may be of interest to you, since it may help in AfD debates. Best wishes Fritzpoll ( talk) 17:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
In light of the discussion at WP:CLN it is apparent that lists and categories complement each other on Wikipedia, and are often used to do many of the same things. There is much overlap and duplication between them, and that's good. It is not good when deletion discussions involving them are not handled by the same people. Which is occuring now.
When somebody has a problem with a category they don't like, they come to category-for-deletion WP:CFD, because the criteria are not the the same as for articles (we also have separate deletion discussion boards as you see in WP:XFD, eight in all, for other things). However, when people want to delete a list article ( list of ships, List of trees, List of birds), which is essentialy the same thing as a category, but in list-form, they go to the article deletion discussion page, WP:AFD. That's not good, because the criteria for notable articles are not the same as those for list-articles. The latter only need a header paragraph to explain themselves (see WP:LIST), and then elements which are individually notable. As in List of birds. But other kinds of wiki-articles normally put up for deletion have more stringent notability requirements, and their verifiability methods are not of the same type (a list article many only have hyperlinked elements and nothing else).
All this produces very WP:LAME edit wars, as you see on the WP:DRV page. For example, List of bow tie wearers has been up for deletion 4 times, and has only survived by now having many, many in-article cites, which makes it look very much unlike List of birds. All that because nay-sayers demanded article criteria for what is essentially a category in list-form. You can see much the same type of problem with List of notable people who wore the bowler hat, which is now up for deletion review on WP:DRV on the grounds that some people are arguing that the existence of the list itself needs defending as a point of WP:V, when in fact, this is really a "what categories are natural?" discussion.
Comments? I'm going to repost this around on the several TALK pages which deal with this matter. S B H arris 01:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone. A discussion on whether multilanguage or international publication establishes notability is taking place in WP:BK right here. This is a meaningful opportunity to shape Wikipedia policy regarding this particular issue. I have also notified Wikiproject Inclusion. Estemi ( talk) 04:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I just met an editor who uses deletion templates to either delete or improve articles that he personally thinks are important (using CSD and PROD). Is this proper? (see Gordonrox24 ( talk · contribs)) 76.66.193.69 ( talk) 07:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I've put up a proposal at WT:AfD on which I would appreciate some "deletionist" perspective and feedback: Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#ARSify.3F Jclemens ( talk) 18:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the participant category be Category:WikiProject Deletion participants, instead of Category:WikiProject Deletionism participants? If I understand correctly, the project hasn't been called "WikiProject Deletionism" for years... Jafeluv ( talk) 08:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
You might like Wikipedia:Coordination/afdrelists, which is updated every hour. @ harej 01:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I've started a thread on whether closing rationales should stay optional here. Please contribute! Fences& Windows 01:01, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
What percentage of all the articles created by: a. Non-autoconfirmed registered users b. Auto-confirmed registered users get deleted via: 1. speedy deletion, 2. proposed deletion and 3. articles for deletion? Fences& Windows 23:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I apologize if this is posted anywhere but I couldn't find any mention of it. Does Wikipedia have templates that are only intended for use on one page? Thanks, Uyvsdi ( talk) 03:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi
There needs to be better checks and balances in the process of how articles are currently nominated for deletion, to prevent notable topics from being deleted without actual qualification per Wikipedia article deletion guidelines. This is a significant problem, because it is very likely that notable topics are being injustly deleted. It's easy to nominate an article for deletion and then type five or six words and wait to see if an article will be deleted, whereas it takes more time to refute nominations. Perhaps there should be more sophisticated criterion to nominate articles for deletion. As it is now, anyone can nominate any article without providing a just rationale for doing so, and can instead simply base the nomination upon basic, generic and inspecific statements such as "doesn't pass general notability guidelines", while not specifically stating which parts of the guidelines they are supposedly referring to. If nobody comes along to correct an injust or baseless nomination, the article is then deleted based upon unqualified, general statements that don't actually correspond with the required source searching per WP:BEFORE prior to nominating an article for deletion. This definitely makes it very easy for people to censor Wikipedia, for whatever subjective reasons. Here's how it's done: an article is nominated for deletion and an AfD entry is created, a generic rationale is provided to misqualify the deletion without actually checking for reliable sources to establish topic notability. Afterward, if nobody comes along to correct the faulty nomination, the article is deleted. It's also easy for people to message one-another to delete articles, often per an "as per nom" rationale, while disregarding the actual notability of topics. If nobody comes along and provides an objective analysis to refute the deletion of an article in which the topic is actually notable, nominated per generic statements and without the required source searching prior to nomination, then the article disappears. Hopefully Wikipedia can introduce better checks and balances to prevent this type of easily accomplished, simple censorship. One idea is to include a requirement prior to article nomination for deletion in which the nominator has to state, or check-box on a template, that they've performed the required minimum search in Google Books and in the Google News Archive required by WP:BEFORE, and in Google Scholar for academic subjects, as suggested in WP:BEFORE. This would be a simple addition to the AfD nomination process that would add significant integrity to the process, and would also encourage users to follow the proper procedures.
Please place responses regarding this matter here on this WikiProject Deletion Discussion page below, rather than on my personal talk page. In this manner, other users can view and respond to responses. Thank you. Northamerica1000 ( talk) 08:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
76.65.128.132 ( talk) 05:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Is anyone active in this project? Mad Man American ( talk) 16:44, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
I think it's a good idea to have around. I'd actually like to see this project welcome those of the whole range of opinions on what is/isn't appropriate material for a full article, it's a discussion that needs to be undertaken. Right now, except in dead obvious cases, whether or not an article stays is largely determined by who happens to show up at AfD that day and whether they like it or don't. I think that is far from the ideal situation. I'd like to see the focus on a few questions:
This has been an intractable debate for many years now, and the current state of affairs is that we muddle through case by case, often alienating people on both sides. Without getting into prescriptive, no-exceptions policy, I'd still like to see us have much better written rules that eliminate a lot of uncertainty as to whether an article is appropriate or not. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:47, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
— Northamerica1000 (talk) 03:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:No content on page. Since you had some involvement with the Template:No content on page redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). 70.24.247.127 ( talk) 02:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
FYI, Template:Cleanup AfD ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 70.50.148.122 ( talk) 02:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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