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I've noticed a user
Dave175 (
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block log) not vandalizing, but adding succession boxes to certain articles, such as various Flash and Robin entries. I don't think those make much sense for something as fluid as fictional, comics continuity. Can we get a quick consensus "vote" so I can be justified in removing this stuff? Or do I stand corrected?
No succession boxes, obviously.
dfg 05:35, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I started to add a superherobox. Apparently there have been two characters under this name. Does it need two boxes? (And can someone look and see if it seems right?) RJFJR 20:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I'd say yes, two boxes are needed since the two Sons of Vulcan are completely unrelated characters (but neither one is important enough to deserve a Wikientry just for himself.) I'll check out the article, see what I can add. Wilfredo Martinez 01:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I cleaned up the SHB, but the page is still clogged with lists of all the members from its incarnations, and needs a cleanup. -- DrBat 21:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Re: X-Men:_The_198_Files#The_198_Files - isn't this a bit much to copy from the issue? - SoM 13:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, all. Hiding has helped, but we sure could use more of y'all to take turns cut-and-pasting the Inkpot Award winners from that article's commented-out alphabetical list to the the Wikipedia year-by-year list. It's done so far through "I" (and "S" will be a bee-yatch), so any contributing hands would help those remaining pros get a little more deserved recognition linked.
Also, on a separate topic, a St. John Publications article is now up for anyone wishing to help flesh it out. Thanks. -- Tenebrae 20:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
It seems like almost all the user's edits are inserting his own pov into the articles. -- DrBat 20:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
One recurrent issue about Franco-Belgian comics article is its lack to point out specificities of the Flemish-side of the country. Hence some attemps to create a separated page for Belgian comics that would explain these regional specificities. It has already been discussed in both articles discussions whether it was a good idea or not, and there is a sort of consensus that it is not a good idea, but that the Flemish comics should deserve some increased attention. I have therefore created a temporary page here to gather facts and content about Flemish comics that could be later on added in Franco-Belgian comics article as a new section. This a call for colloaboration on this issue. If there are some experts around, feel free to contribute, add, reformat, rewrite, comment, ... Lvr 10:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone think the 'appearances' section are npov and unencylopediac (sp)?-- DrBat 00:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Pretty much all Spectre hosts have gotten their own pages, and I think Jim Corrigan should have one too. It should include the first Corrigan, which would mostly be focussed on the development he got in Ostrander's run (which I will be able to add onto later when I get access to my run again), but also the second one, which I'm sure some will be able to add onto.
I took the liberty of making the page already, adding a box and some info. Kusonaga 18:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Recently I've come across these Chronological Reading Order pages, notably on the Phantom Stranger page and Spectre page. I've put the Stranger Order up for deletion already, and deleted the sections from the articles. If nobody else puts up the Spectre Reading page up for deletion, I probably will. They are unnecessary and copyvio to boot. Kusonaga 18:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I'm running into commercial superhero art and cropped comic book covers tagged with Template:Promotional. Please don't do this. Template:Promotional is for material that comes from a press kit. Commercial art is only covered under Wikipedia:Fair use when in an article discussing that artist's work. Book / magazine / DVD covers that we are using should not be cropped to remove publishing information and trademarks. I'd like to encourage everyone invovled in this project to be more cautious with copyright-infringing material that we are claiming "fair use" on. See Wikipedia:Image use policy, and Wikipedia:Fair use criteria for more policy information. Thanks for understanding. Jkelly 03:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I've done some minor wikification on Century (comics), but I've seen that some of the other characters in Force Works have much better bios. I don't know much about the subject, so perhaps someone here might be able to have a look. Kevin 09:07, 24 April 2006 (UTC) There's an extensive bio at the Appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe. Check that out for a little help in writing up his bio. -- DoctorWorm7 18:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
So what exactly should be the response to this? Near as I can tell QuintusCinna just copied several DC pages and added his name.
WikiProject Arts
Announcing the creation of
WikiProject Arts, an effort to create a collaboration between all arts projects and artistically-minded Wikipedians in order to improve arts coverage. If you think you can help, please join us!
HAM 17:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I've redirected The Man of Steel to Man of Steel as they were informationally equivilent and Man of Steel was closer to the WP:MOSDAB standard. Since The Man of Steel has your template on the talk page (and Man of Steel did not), I thought I'd let you know. Feel free to adjust if you think me mis-guided, but let me know on a talk page somewhere why! John (Jwy) 05:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Rather than nominate this article for WP:AfD I thought I'd shout here for some TLC. I've asserted both CLEAN and EXPERT templates as documented on that talk. Looks like Categories need attention too. Best regards, Fra nkB 11:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
What is the consensus on including articles on comics pencillers? Do they pass the notability threshhold? User:Zoe| (talk) 18:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
There's a discussion going on over at the Thor talk page about moving the bulk of Thor (comics) to Thor (Marvel Comics) and turning the former into a summary or disambig page. I thought I'd mention it here so people can join in if they wish. CovenantD 17:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Fred Kida and Frank Springer, for you Golden/Silver Age fans. There's a lot there, but they can always be fleshed-out more. Stay well, all. -- Tenebrae 21:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
...Annnnnd, longtime Charlton Comics penciler Bill Fraccio makes my 50th contributed comics-creator bio. Jump in! -- Tenebrae 21:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
There's a semi-frequent vandal anon afflicting comics-related articles by removing all images from articles - rarely or never the same exact IP, but usually the IP address starts with 4.244
If you see one of these IPs editing an article on your watchlist, please check it AND, if it is the image-remover, please revert and add a note (including the relevant IP address) on Wikipedia:Long_term_abuse#4.244..2A..2A. Thanks. - SoM 23:10, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
We need opinions and suggestions in here! — Lesfer (talk/ @) 18:30, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
A few months back, an editor merged the former article on New Fun Comics into the article on More Fun Comics, the rationale being More Fun is the better known title. New Fun Comics became a redirect. I personally feel this isn't the way to go. New Fun Comics ran for a full year before changing its name, and under the name New Fun Comics it was historically significant as the first major DC Comic publication. On top of that, the image used to illustrate More Fun Comics now is the original image from New Fun Comics, so is no longer accurate. I would like to suggest that the two articles be essentially taken apart and recreate as separate articles, as they were before February. I considered simply reverting, but there has been additional edits done to More Fun Comics since the move. Now that there's a WikiProject on comic books and their history, what are people's thoughts on this? 23skidoo 21:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I'm not sure if this is the correct way to bring something up, but here goes. I'm a huge Legion of Super-Heroes fan, specifically, the post Zero Hour (roughly 1994-2004) version. I noticed that in the Legion wiki, if you click on someone like Cosmic Boy, who has had many versions, all the Cosmic Boys are covered. But if you click on someone like Gates, who only has one version, you get just him. Since they are listed by era, and in a sense, they are new versions of these characters, I think everyone should get an original entry. Example, if you click Starboy, you should get a profile about Thom Kallor, white guy who dated dream girl and grows up to become Starman, not Waid's version of him. I probably won't remember to check this, but if anyone wants to work with me on this, email me at LobsterAfternoon@gmail.com Best, Zach — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.79.168.160 ( talk • contribs)
I was a big DC fan for a few years starting with the Death of Superman and pretty much lost interest when my local store closed down after Kingdom Come. I've decided to start reading again, spurred by Infinite Crisis and 52, and the work of Wikiproject Comics has been invaluable in helping me catch up buying the miniseries I've missed and their various prologues/tie-ins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liu Bei ( talk • contribs)
Can anyone explain to me why OHOTMU strength stats are not okay/should not be added to character articles? I understand that they aren't necessarily kept to in the comics themselves, but the assertion that they aren't encyclopedic information or that they shouldn't be added under the powers and abilities section of the character's article is subjective, or at least not wholly objective. I'm wondering if there's a legal issue dealing with the copyright or license of the OHOTMU. I asked this question in Talk:Spider-Man#Enhanced Physicality and there's been a long running discussion going on there. As it stands, the Spider-Man article has been edited to include OHOTMU strength stats, as the consensus among those who at least purport to know about copyrights is that it is not breach of copyright to add them. If it is a breach of copyright, is it not also a breach to include information from Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Alternate Worlds 2005 in articles about Marvel Universes? I've heard this has been discussed before but I cannot find this in the archives, so an answer or a point in the right direction would be great. Thanks! Psyphics 16:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
If you add fictional information, clearly distinguish fact and fiction. As with normal articles, establish context so that a reader unfamiliar with the subject can get an idea about the article's meaning without having to check several links. Instead of
"Trillian was taken away from Earth by Zaphod when he visited a party."
write
"Trillian is a fictional character from Douglas Adams's radio, book and now film series The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. She is taken away from Earth in a spaceship when Zaphod Beeblebrox visits a party. Together with Zaphod, Adams chooses to have her explore the universe in the starship." And so on.
Hello all. There seems to be quite a discussion on here and on the Spider-Man board as to whether or not we should list the strength levels of our favorite heroes. I've been a professional journalist for more than 10 years, working for newspapers and magazines, as a reporter all the way up to an editor and I know something about copyright. In my experience, writing down Spider-Man's (or any other hero) strength stats and attributing it is not going against copyright. Believe me, I've seen enough Associated Press articles and other news organizations that have written that Spider-Man can lift 10 tons or more under duress in the past to know that. Besides, if we are really editors on here, it is our job and responsibility to accurately report on the topic, regardless of what a consensus says. If one does that, then that person should not be an editor. I apologize if I come off strong, but it's ingrained in me to report things as accurately as possible. I certainly don't see what the issue is of posting a hero's stats. -- Newseditor 12:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Believe me, Pc13, comic fans will always fight over how strong heroes are and writers, sadly, will ignore stats. The fact is, we are editors and as an editor it is our job to accurately report as much as possible.
Hiding said something that I mentioned in the Spider-Man page. List what how much he can lift, citing the source, but also note that writers tend to ignore the limit. That way, the reader has all the information in front of him and they can make their own decisions. It's not an editor's job to make the readers' decisions for them. -- Newseditor 16:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
A user is trying to change Huntress's current outfit to the one Jim Lee gave her that she only wore for a few months ( the one where here her stomach is exposed and she has no pants). -- DrBat 23:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | ← | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | → | Archive 15 |
I've noticed a user
Dave175 (
talk ·
contribs ·
deleted contribs ·
nuke contribs ·
logs ·
filter log ·
block user ·
block log) not vandalizing, but adding succession boxes to certain articles, such as various Flash and Robin entries. I don't think those make much sense for something as fluid as fictional, comics continuity. Can we get a quick consensus "vote" so I can be justified in removing this stuff? Or do I stand corrected?
No succession boxes, obviously.
dfg 05:35, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I started to add a superherobox. Apparently there have been two characters under this name. Does it need two boxes? (And can someone look and see if it seems right?) RJFJR 20:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I'd say yes, two boxes are needed since the two Sons of Vulcan are completely unrelated characters (but neither one is important enough to deserve a Wikientry just for himself.) I'll check out the article, see what I can add. Wilfredo Martinez 01:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I cleaned up the SHB, but the page is still clogged with lists of all the members from its incarnations, and needs a cleanup. -- DrBat 21:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Re: X-Men:_The_198_Files#The_198_Files - isn't this a bit much to copy from the issue? - SoM 13:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, all. Hiding has helped, but we sure could use more of y'all to take turns cut-and-pasting the Inkpot Award winners from that article's commented-out alphabetical list to the the Wikipedia year-by-year list. It's done so far through "I" (and "S" will be a bee-yatch), so any contributing hands would help those remaining pros get a little more deserved recognition linked.
Also, on a separate topic, a St. John Publications article is now up for anyone wishing to help flesh it out. Thanks. -- Tenebrae 20:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
It seems like almost all the user's edits are inserting his own pov into the articles. -- DrBat 20:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
One recurrent issue about Franco-Belgian comics article is its lack to point out specificities of the Flemish-side of the country. Hence some attemps to create a separated page for Belgian comics that would explain these regional specificities. It has already been discussed in both articles discussions whether it was a good idea or not, and there is a sort of consensus that it is not a good idea, but that the Flemish comics should deserve some increased attention. I have therefore created a temporary page here to gather facts and content about Flemish comics that could be later on added in Franco-Belgian comics article as a new section. This a call for colloaboration on this issue. If there are some experts around, feel free to contribute, add, reformat, rewrite, comment, ... Lvr 10:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone think the 'appearances' section are npov and unencylopediac (sp)?-- DrBat 00:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Pretty much all Spectre hosts have gotten their own pages, and I think Jim Corrigan should have one too. It should include the first Corrigan, which would mostly be focussed on the development he got in Ostrander's run (which I will be able to add onto later when I get access to my run again), but also the second one, which I'm sure some will be able to add onto.
I took the liberty of making the page already, adding a box and some info. Kusonaga 18:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Recently I've come across these Chronological Reading Order pages, notably on the Phantom Stranger page and Spectre page. I've put the Stranger Order up for deletion already, and deleted the sections from the articles. If nobody else puts up the Spectre Reading page up for deletion, I probably will. They are unnecessary and copyvio to boot. Kusonaga 18:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I'm running into commercial superhero art and cropped comic book covers tagged with Template:Promotional. Please don't do this. Template:Promotional is for material that comes from a press kit. Commercial art is only covered under Wikipedia:Fair use when in an article discussing that artist's work. Book / magazine / DVD covers that we are using should not be cropped to remove publishing information and trademarks. I'd like to encourage everyone invovled in this project to be more cautious with copyright-infringing material that we are claiming "fair use" on. See Wikipedia:Image use policy, and Wikipedia:Fair use criteria for more policy information. Thanks for understanding. Jkelly 03:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I've done some minor wikification on Century (comics), but I've seen that some of the other characters in Force Works have much better bios. I don't know much about the subject, so perhaps someone here might be able to have a look. Kevin 09:07, 24 April 2006 (UTC) There's an extensive bio at the Appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe. Check that out for a little help in writing up his bio. -- DoctorWorm7 18:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
So what exactly should be the response to this? Near as I can tell QuintusCinna just copied several DC pages and added his name.
WikiProject Arts
Announcing the creation of
WikiProject Arts, an effort to create a collaboration between all arts projects and artistically-minded Wikipedians in order to improve arts coverage. If you think you can help, please join us!
HAM 17:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I've redirected The Man of Steel to Man of Steel as they were informationally equivilent and Man of Steel was closer to the WP:MOSDAB standard. Since The Man of Steel has your template on the talk page (and Man of Steel did not), I thought I'd let you know. Feel free to adjust if you think me mis-guided, but let me know on a talk page somewhere why! John (Jwy) 05:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Rather than nominate this article for WP:AfD I thought I'd shout here for some TLC. I've asserted both CLEAN and EXPERT templates as documented on that talk. Looks like Categories need attention too. Best regards, Fra nkB 11:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
What is the consensus on including articles on comics pencillers? Do they pass the notability threshhold? User:Zoe| (talk) 18:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
There's a discussion going on over at the Thor talk page about moving the bulk of Thor (comics) to Thor (Marvel Comics) and turning the former into a summary or disambig page. I thought I'd mention it here so people can join in if they wish. CovenantD 17:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Fred Kida and Frank Springer, for you Golden/Silver Age fans. There's a lot there, but they can always be fleshed-out more. Stay well, all. -- Tenebrae 21:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
...Annnnnd, longtime Charlton Comics penciler Bill Fraccio makes my 50th contributed comics-creator bio. Jump in! -- Tenebrae 21:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
There's a semi-frequent vandal anon afflicting comics-related articles by removing all images from articles - rarely or never the same exact IP, but usually the IP address starts with 4.244
If you see one of these IPs editing an article on your watchlist, please check it AND, if it is the image-remover, please revert and add a note (including the relevant IP address) on Wikipedia:Long_term_abuse#4.244..2A..2A. Thanks. - SoM 23:10, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
We need opinions and suggestions in here! — Lesfer (talk/ @) 18:30, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
A few months back, an editor merged the former article on New Fun Comics into the article on More Fun Comics, the rationale being More Fun is the better known title. New Fun Comics became a redirect. I personally feel this isn't the way to go. New Fun Comics ran for a full year before changing its name, and under the name New Fun Comics it was historically significant as the first major DC Comic publication. On top of that, the image used to illustrate More Fun Comics now is the original image from New Fun Comics, so is no longer accurate. I would like to suggest that the two articles be essentially taken apart and recreate as separate articles, as they were before February. I considered simply reverting, but there has been additional edits done to More Fun Comics since the move. Now that there's a WikiProject on comic books and their history, what are people's thoughts on this? 23skidoo 21:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I'm not sure if this is the correct way to bring something up, but here goes. I'm a huge Legion of Super-Heroes fan, specifically, the post Zero Hour (roughly 1994-2004) version. I noticed that in the Legion wiki, if you click on someone like Cosmic Boy, who has had many versions, all the Cosmic Boys are covered. But if you click on someone like Gates, who only has one version, you get just him. Since they are listed by era, and in a sense, they are new versions of these characters, I think everyone should get an original entry. Example, if you click Starboy, you should get a profile about Thom Kallor, white guy who dated dream girl and grows up to become Starman, not Waid's version of him. I probably won't remember to check this, but if anyone wants to work with me on this, email me at LobsterAfternoon@gmail.com Best, Zach — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.79.168.160 ( talk • contribs)
I was a big DC fan for a few years starting with the Death of Superman and pretty much lost interest when my local store closed down after Kingdom Come. I've decided to start reading again, spurred by Infinite Crisis and 52, and the work of Wikiproject Comics has been invaluable in helping me catch up buying the miniseries I've missed and their various prologues/tie-ins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liu Bei ( talk • contribs)
Can anyone explain to me why OHOTMU strength stats are not okay/should not be added to character articles? I understand that they aren't necessarily kept to in the comics themselves, but the assertion that they aren't encyclopedic information or that they shouldn't be added under the powers and abilities section of the character's article is subjective, or at least not wholly objective. I'm wondering if there's a legal issue dealing with the copyright or license of the OHOTMU. I asked this question in Talk:Spider-Man#Enhanced Physicality and there's been a long running discussion going on there. As it stands, the Spider-Man article has been edited to include OHOTMU strength stats, as the consensus among those who at least purport to know about copyrights is that it is not breach of copyright to add them. If it is a breach of copyright, is it not also a breach to include information from Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Alternate Worlds 2005 in articles about Marvel Universes? I've heard this has been discussed before but I cannot find this in the archives, so an answer or a point in the right direction would be great. Thanks! Psyphics 16:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
If you add fictional information, clearly distinguish fact and fiction. As with normal articles, establish context so that a reader unfamiliar with the subject can get an idea about the article's meaning without having to check several links. Instead of
"Trillian was taken away from Earth by Zaphod when he visited a party."
write
"Trillian is a fictional character from Douglas Adams's radio, book and now film series The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. She is taken away from Earth in a spaceship when Zaphod Beeblebrox visits a party. Together with Zaphod, Adams chooses to have her explore the universe in the starship." And so on.
Hello all. There seems to be quite a discussion on here and on the Spider-Man board as to whether or not we should list the strength levels of our favorite heroes. I've been a professional journalist for more than 10 years, working for newspapers and magazines, as a reporter all the way up to an editor and I know something about copyright. In my experience, writing down Spider-Man's (or any other hero) strength stats and attributing it is not going against copyright. Believe me, I've seen enough Associated Press articles and other news organizations that have written that Spider-Man can lift 10 tons or more under duress in the past to know that. Besides, if we are really editors on here, it is our job and responsibility to accurately report on the topic, regardless of what a consensus says. If one does that, then that person should not be an editor. I apologize if I come off strong, but it's ingrained in me to report things as accurately as possible. I certainly don't see what the issue is of posting a hero's stats. -- Newseditor 12:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Believe me, Pc13, comic fans will always fight over how strong heroes are and writers, sadly, will ignore stats. The fact is, we are editors and as an editor it is our job to accurately report as much as possible.
Hiding said something that I mentioned in the Spider-Man page. List what how much he can lift, citing the source, but also note that writers tend to ignore the limit. That way, the reader has all the information in front of him and they can make their own decisions. It's not an editor's job to make the readers' decisions for them. -- Newseditor 16:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
A user is trying to change Huntress's current outfit to the one Jim Lee gave her that she only wore for a few months ( the one where here her stomach is exposed and she has no pants). -- DrBat 23:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)