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The prod was removed from Francisco "O Baby" Rosario, anyone want to try to find a source before it is sent to AfD? I dropped a line on the removers talkpage but it was his first edit so I'm not holding out much hope. J04n( talk page) 18:58, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Anybody else having problem with their editting toolbar? I use the old editting toolbar rather than the new enhanced editting tool bar as the old one links to the reftools citation templates which can autofill the citation template fields from the source when it can which usually results in a full citation when pulling from Google Books. Today, I find I got the enhanced toolbar to due to an upgrade glitch, but regardless of my preference setting, and regardless of what I do, I cannot get the old toolbar back. I've reported it at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 131#Editing. I thought I'd share this in case anybody else was having a similar problem. -- Whpq ( talk) 16:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Did you try My Preferences → Editing → Beta features → unclick "Enhanced editing toolbar". I'm using monobook and it worked for me. -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 16:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
On a tenuously related note - I can't get my watchlist script to work. Anyone else using 'user:js/watchlist.js' by chance? -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 18:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
importScript('User:Apoc2400/refToolbarPlus.js');
to your monobook.js or vector.js as appropriate will get you a cite button. On mine (vector), the cite button is on the left side instead of the right, and the subsequent citation format selector buttons are not properly ligned up, but a proper reference can be generated. Does anybody know what the correct .js file is for import? My understanding is that the one I used may differ from the one used by the gadget checkbox. --
Whpq (
talk) 20:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm stuck on Ferdinand, Hereditary Prince of Leiningen, I left a message at WikiProject Royalty and Nobility but do any of you have any ideas? I've had no luck getting some of these either adequately sourced or deleted. J04n( talk page) 22:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Not seeing it here at the moment, although I was using it earlier. -- j⚛e decker talk to me 23:02, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
I worked on Alexander Radchenko earlier today picking an article from a lengthy "R" list. Did some other stuff and just went back to pick another "R" article and found that most were gone. I though "Crazy mad props to whoever rifled through that!". Then I noticed that "J" list was full of articles when the letter had been cleared. And it was because their first name begins with "J". I looked at Jean Ragnotti thinking maybe somebody removed the DEFAULTSORT but it still there yet this is being dumped into "J" rather than "R". -- Whpq ( talk) 20:08, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Another 400 free Credo Reference accounts have been made available for Wikipedians, kindly donated by the company and arranged by Erik Möller of the Wikimedia Foundation. We've drawn up some eligibility criteria to direct the accounts to content contributors, and after that it's first-come, first-served. The list will open on Wednesday, March 23 at 22:00 UTC, and will remain open for seven days. See Wikipedia:Credo accounts.
Feel free to add your name even if you're lower on the list than the 400th, in case people ahead of you aren't eligible, and good luck! SlimVirgin TALK| CONTRIBS 04:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I put in a request for another watchlist notice. J04n( talk page) 12:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
We've been given three weeks from 8am this morning and the total has already dipped below 9,000. Current totals are:
unreferenced BLPs
All articles 8,989
So already we've got the 2009 figure below the 2010 one, and if the watchlisting works as well as it did last time we could end April with fewer 2009 uBLPs than 2011 ones. Ϣere SpielChequers 11:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
I know that in the past we've steered clear of the oldest month, thinking natural selection will take care of it, but this case, with it dropping naturally only very slowly, and giving us the opportunity to clear out a whole half year, think it suits. Nice and small, too, after the previous behemoth! Interesting that despite the joe-excepted burnout, June 09 was still done at a 25ppd average, compared to a 35ppd average for most (but not all) previous months. The-Pope ( talk) 06:11, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
I references all of the 'G's but I can't see the individual letters in edit mode in order to cross off the letter 'G' on the main project page - is the template set up correctly? -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 17:26, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
There's only one article left not at deletion, it's Omprakash Singh.
So, anyway, what next? ;-) -- joe decker talk to me 17:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm surprised that this is the first time I've encountered this problem: the only possible refs I can find for the article on Adrian Fulle are behind various paywalls which makes them, I think, unusable for our purposes. The article itself is a puff piece created by the subject's own company which needs fixing (if it survives). I would have said that it is a possible candidate for deletion on notability grounds but it is also possible that the stuff behind the paywalls would count towards establishing WP:GNG and/or WP:ENT. Advice appreciated.-- CharlieDelta ( talk) 22:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey. We didn't discuss a trophy for Feb 2009; I guess because it went by so fast. In honour of the speed at which that was worked through, I suggest this: -- Whpq ( talk) 12:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
There are 27 Taiwanese baseball players in the UBLP category, if anyone fancies a mostly routine task. Many seem to have been created by the same user back in 2007. Most have links through the zh.wikipedia page to the player's stats page at the Chinese Professional Baseball League website and to a non-RS but informative page at Wikipedia Taiwan Baseball, both of which are useful as the transliteration of the Chinese names varies a bit. No worries if this doesn't appeal to anyone. I'll get to it myself at some point. Haven't posted a message at either WikiProject Baseball (the articles probably need updating as well) or WikiProject Taiwan yet but could do that when I get back later today.-- CharlieDelta ( talk) 08:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm stuck on Elisa (Japanese singer), and could really use an extra pair of eyes. Thanks. -- joe decker talk to me 19:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
What do folks think about Shantal Méndez?
I'm going through the lists of remaining sportspeople and politicians (I find them much easier than those pesky artists/authors/actors and musicians!) and by now I've clicked on most of them at least once, but for whatever reason moved on without adding a ref (ie they look hard!) Well today I clicked again on Richie Reid, he's one of our favourites - an Irish hurler. I am so used to clicking on the google news link and instantly clicking on "archives" that I almost missed the top link - a "where are they now" feature on him that was published yesterday! "Like raaainnn, on your wedding day... Isn't it coincidental". The-Pope ( talk) 13:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Of the remaining few--nearly all of them have some language challenges attached. Yi Chung, the Korean prince, I've requested help from WikiProject Korea from, there are sources at KRWIKI on that Prince but I can't quite connect those sources well enough to use one in our article because of the language trouble, I suspect someone with a bit of Korean would have no trouble bringing him up to "BLP sourced". The three Z's are apparently all related, and might be easily taken out with a single good source if they're really notable. Enjoy! -- joe decker talk to me 18:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
You will note that our momentary drop below 6,000 came with a rebound to over 6,200. The jump was due to Z-bot finding living people marked with the unreferenced tag and upgrading that tag to BLP unreferenced. -- joe decker talk to me 17:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
We're down to the last few that aren't under some form of deletion:
I was kinda looking at September 2009, but it's all good, really. What d'y'all think? -- joe decker talk to me 01:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Currently there are 900 UBLPs left from 2009. We've been averaging 30-50 per day recently, so it should be done by early June. July 2 will be the 1 year anniversary of this project. There are a further 1662 from the first half of 2010 - ie 2562 UBLPs that were tagged before WP:URBLPR existed. There are 15+30+2=47 days left until the anniversary... 2562/47 = 54.5. Not much more than our average.
I'm not going to ask Joe, J04n, Pburka, CharlieD and the other regulars to step up their pace - you guys are doing more than your fair share. I think that we should approach some of the old guard, or admins/experienced editors in general, or maybe do another watchlist notice in mid June, and try to expand it to 10-20 people doing 3-5 each day, not 3-5 people doing 10-20 each day. Clearing out every UBLP that existed when this project started by the 12 month anniversary will be an awesome achievement... so who's up for it? The-Pope ( talk) 17:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
September? July? Something further out? -- joe decker talk to me 01:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I nominated this at AfD but there has been no response. Can the BLP Rescue team perhaps find a good reason to keep it? -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Since Catscan is still having problems here's a list of the ones still to reference or tag for deletion:
Hut 8.5 17:40, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Finish the year? -- joe decker talk to me 18:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Just sent Naseem Vicky to AfD for a second round, but I don't feel too good about it. There's a lot of non-RS stuff out there to sort though, and I the Urdu language barrier is tall, so there's probably something there that I've missed, at least that's what my gut (and the unanimous keep at the previous AfD) are telling me. Have at! :) -- joe decker talk to me 03:15, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I thought it might be worthwhile trying another recruiting notice - but before we do another watchlist one (maybe at the end of the month?), it might be worth a different tack. I've posted messages on noticeboards or project talk pages in the past, and on user talk pages of those who've created UBLPs, but we've never tried a direct appeal to other experienced editors. There are plenty of good editors out there who have either helped out in the past or just haven't ever come this way. I was thinking if each of us posted the following message, or a variant of it as you see fit, to talk pages of possibly interested editors (maybe those who took part in the BLPRFCs?) or editors that you "know" from other wiki interactions, we might be able to finish off the remaining 4875 fairly quickly - remember 5000 UBLPs were removed in December. So, here are my ideas for the messages to users and projects. Feel free to use them as is, edit them, or write your own from scratch... but lets see how big a chunk we can take out of the count in June 2011. (And I'll try to update the "by topic" list count later tonight... Dec 4 is a long time ago!) Cheers, The-Pope ( talk) 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
For users:
Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the Unreferenced Biographies of Living People, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 938 (as of 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). We are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Wikipedia:
All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable references from reliable sources and remove the {{ BLP unsourced}} template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at WP:URBLPR or WT:URBLP.
We understand that everyone has different priorities for their limited time on Wikipedia, so if you are unable to help, that's OK too, but thank you for any assistance you can provide. The-Pope ( talk) 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
For projects:
Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the Unreferenced Biographies of Living People, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 938 (as of 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). We are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Wikipedia:
All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable references from reliable sources and remove the {{ BLP unsourced}} template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at WP:URBLPR or WT:URBLP.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. The-Pope ( talk) 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I just BLP Prodded about 35 completely unreferenced(with 1 exception) BLPs that where created in the last week. Expect June 2011 to rise for a while. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 23:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Both are marked as Unreference BLPs. It that appropriate? What makes a BLP and can the BLP PROD be applied to bands and similar? Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 00:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Is the reference on Kathleen Gibson considered a reference so that it can NOT be WP:BLPPRODded? Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 18:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm trying to focus in on some of the associated issues to BLP Rescue. One of the things that crops up is the amount of
Unreferenced musician BLPs and the relative slowness that it reduces. This slowness in reduction is in part I think due to the contiued addition of new musician articles marked as unsourced. Many musician pages seems to be one time creations(promotional?). I checked all the recent additions and all off them have at least one link on them, admitely a very low quality one, sometimes the artists personal website, label website, myspace etc. In such cases as have a low quality link should they be marked with the {{
BLP unsourced}}
? The template documentation implies not. Regards,
SunCreator (
talk) 11:57, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
There is a database report that shows only 300-400 articles that would qualify for BLPPROD that are tagged with BLP unreferenced, so cleaning up that grey line won't solve much. I think we can only keep slogging through them one at a time and make a call each time, and the only real solution is to be fairly vicious with PROD/AFDing ones that you don't get an easy ref, and forcing the "It's a BLP so it needs good, significant, reliable, independent references" line at AFD if it seems to be drifting towards a "keep on good faith" type of approach. Parts of the Music project - namely Metal and Opera have both been really good - User:J04n I think was instrumental in that work.
And to be honest, MOST of the topic based tasks have been extremely poor. Unless you get a dedicated editor willing to give it focus, they have all been virtually untouched. Sports & regions have been helped by individual sports/regions - olympics, NFL, Football, hockey, Spain, Sweden, Australia etc being cleared, most of the other topics/regions have only been reduced by this month-by-month clearance. The-Pope ( talk) 15:05, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
It's pretty weird that the following recently created BLPs Niaz Mohammad Chowdhury, Petteri Kolinen, Judith sewell wright, Woody Thompson canNOT be BLP PRODDED. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 23:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
{{
No footnotes}}
, I disagree, it's like a cleanup tag as from a BLP point of view it is poor because it doesn't require a reliable source. Those so called "refs" you refer to can be facebook, myspace and any other link going. Articles in
Category:Articles_lacking_in-text_citations does not meet the criteria of having one reliable source, although it might mask the situation. Regards,
SunCreator (
talk) 14:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
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The prod was removed from Francisco "O Baby" Rosario, anyone want to try to find a source before it is sent to AfD? I dropped a line on the removers talkpage but it was his first edit so I'm not holding out much hope. J04n( talk page) 18:58, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Anybody else having problem with their editting toolbar? I use the old editting toolbar rather than the new enhanced editting tool bar as the old one links to the reftools citation templates which can autofill the citation template fields from the source when it can which usually results in a full citation when pulling from Google Books. Today, I find I got the enhanced toolbar to due to an upgrade glitch, but regardless of my preference setting, and regardless of what I do, I cannot get the old toolbar back. I've reported it at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 131#Editing. I thought I'd share this in case anybody else was having a similar problem. -- Whpq ( talk) 16:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Did you try My Preferences → Editing → Beta features → unclick "Enhanced editing toolbar". I'm using monobook and it worked for me. -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 16:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
On a tenuously related note - I can't get my watchlist script to work. Anyone else using 'user:js/watchlist.js' by chance? -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 18:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
importScript('User:Apoc2400/refToolbarPlus.js');
to your monobook.js or vector.js as appropriate will get you a cite button. On mine (vector), the cite button is on the left side instead of the right, and the subsequent citation format selector buttons are not properly ligned up, but a proper reference can be generated. Does anybody know what the correct .js file is for import? My understanding is that the one I used may differ from the one used by the gadget checkbox. --
Whpq (
talk) 20:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm stuck on Ferdinand, Hereditary Prince of Leiningen, I left a message at WikiProject Royalty and Nobility but do any of you have any ideas? I've had no luck getting some of these either adequately sourced or deleted. J04n( talk page) 22:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Not seeing it here at the moment, although I was using it earlier. -- j⚛e decker talk to me 23:02, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
I worked on Alexander Radchenko earlier today picking an article from a lengthy "R" list. Did some other stuff and just went back to pick another "R" article and found that most were gone. I though "Crazy mad props to whoever rifled through that!". Then I noticed that "J" list was full of articles when the letter had been cleared. And it was because their first name begins with "J". I looked at Jean Ragnotti thinking maybe somebody removed the DEFAULTSORT but it still there yet this is being dumped into "J" rather than "R". -- Whpq ( talk) 20:08, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Another 400 free Credo Reference accounts have been made available for Wikipedians, kindly donated by the company and arranged by Erik Möller of the Wikimedia Foundation. We've drawn up some eligibility criteria to direct the accounts to content contributors, and after that it's first-come, first-served. The list will open on Wednesday, March 23 at 22:00 UTC, and will remain open for seven days. See Wikipedia:Credo accounts.
Feel free to add your name even if you're lower on the list than the 400th, in case people ahead of you aren't eligible, and good luck! SlimVirgin TALK| CONTRIBS 04:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I put in a request for another watchlist notice. J04n( talk page) 12:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
We've been given three weeks from 8am this morning and the total has already dipped below 9,000. Current totals are:
unreferenced BLPs
All articles 8,989
So already we've got the 2009 figure below the 2010 one, and if the watchlisting works as well as it did last time we could end April with fewer 2009 uBLPs than 2011 ones. Ϣere SpielChequers 11:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
I know that in the past we've steered clear of the oldest month, thinking natural selection will take care of it, but this case, with it dropping naturally only very slowly, and giving us the opportunity to clear out a whole half year, think it suits. Nice and small, too, after the previous behemoth! Interesting that despite the joe-excepted burnout, June 09 was still done at a 25ppd average, compared to a 35ppd average for most (but not all) previous months. The-Pope ( talk) 06:11, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
I references all of the 'G's but I can't see the individual letters in edit mode in order to cross off the letter 'G' on the main project page - is the template set up correctly? -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 17:26, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
There's only one article left not at deletion, it's Omprakash Singh.
So, anyway, what next? ;-) -- joe decker talk to me 17:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm surprised that this is the first time I've encountered this problem: the only possible refs I can find for the article on Adrian Fulle are behind various paywalls which makes them, I think, unusable for our purposes. The article itself is a puff piece created by the subject's own company which needs fixing (if it survives). I would have said that it is a possible candidate for deletion on notability grounds but it is also possible that the stuff behind the paywalls would count towards establishing WP:GNG and/or WP:ENT. Advice appreciated.-- CharlieDelta ( talk) 22:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey. We didn't discuss a trophy for Feb 2009; I guess because it went by so fast. In honour of the speed at which that was worked through, I suggest this: -- Whpq ( talk) 12:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
There are 27 Taiwanese baseball players in the UBLP category, if anyone fancies a mostly routine task. Many seem to have been created by the same user back in 2007. Most have links through the zh.wikipedia page to the player's stats page at the Chinese Professional Baseball League website and to a non-RS but informative page at Wikipedia Taiwan Baseball, both of which are useful as the transliteration of the Chinese names varies a bit. No worries if this doesn't appeal to anyone. I'll get to it myself at some point. Haven't posted a message at either WikiProject Baseball (the articles probably need updating as well) or WikiProject Taiwan yet but could do that when I get back later today.-- CharlieDelta ( talk) 08:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm stuck on Elisa (Japanese singer), and could really use an extra pair of eyes. Thanks. -- joe decker talk to me 19:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
What do folks think about Shantal Méndez?
I'm going through the lists of remaining sportspeople and politicians (I find them much easier than those pesky artists/authors/actors and musicians!) and by now I've clicked on most of them at least once, but for whatever reason moved on without adding a ref (ie they look hard!) Well today I clicked again on Richie Reid, he's one of our favourites - an Irish hurler. I am so used to clicking on the google news link and instantly clicking on "archives" that I almost missed the top link - a "where are they now" feature on him that was published yesterday! "Like raaainnn, on your wedding day... Isn't it coincidental". The-Pope ( talk) 13:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Of the remaining few--nearly all of them have some language challenges attached. Yi Chung, the Korean prince, I've requested help from WikiProject Korea from, there are sources at KRWIKI on that Prince but I can't quite connect those sources well enough to use one in our article because of the language trouble, I suspect someone with a bit of Korean would have no trouble bringing him up to "BLP sourced". The three Z's are apparently all related, and might be easily taken out with a single good source if they're really notable. Enjoy! -- joe decker talk to me 18:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
You will note that our momentary drop below 6,000 came with a rebound to over 6,200. The jump was due to Z-bot finding living people marked with the unreferenced tag and upgrading that tag to BLP unreferenced. -- joe decker talk to me 17:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
We're down to the last few that aren't under some form of deletion:
I was kinda looking at September 2009, but it's all good, really. What d'y'all think? -- joe decker talk to me 01:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Currently there are 900 UBLPs left from 2009. We've been averaging 30-50 per day recently, so it should be done by early June. July 2 will be the 1 year anniversary of this project. There are a further 1662 from the first half of 2010 - ie 2562 UBLPs that were tagged before WP:URBLPR existed. There are 15+30+2=47 days left until the anniversary... 2562/47 = 54.5. Not much more than our average.
I'm not going to ask Joe, J04n, Pburka, CharlieD and the other regulars to step up their pace - you guys are doing more than your fair share. I think that we should approach some of the old guard, or admins/experienced editors in general, or maybe do another watchlist notice in mid June, and try to expand it to 10-20 people doing 3-5 each day, not 3-5 people doing 10-20 each day. Clearing out every UBLP that existed when this project started by the 12 month anniversary will be an awesome achievement... so who's up for it? The-Pope ( talk) 17:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
September? July? Something further out? -- joe decker talk to me 01:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I nominated this at AfD but there has been no response. Can the BLP Rescue team perhaps find a good reason to keep it? -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Since Catscan is still having problems here's a list of the ones still to reference or tag for deletion:
Hut 8.5 17:40, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Finish the year? -- joe decker talk to me 18:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Just sent Naseem Vicky to AfD for a second round, but I don't feel too good about it. There's a lot of non-RS stuff out there to sort though, and I the Urdu language barrier is tall, so there's probably something there that I've missed, at least that's what my gut (and the unanimous keep at the previous AfD) are telling me. Have at! :) -- joe decker talk to me 03:15, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I thought it might be worthwhile trying another recruiting notice - but before we do another watchlist one (maybe at the end of the month?), it might be worth a different tack. I've posted messages on noticeboards or project talk pages in the past, and on user talk pages of those who've created UBLPs, but we've never tried a direct appeal to other experienced editors. There are plenty of good editors out there who have either helped out in the past or just haven't ever come this way. I was thinking if each of us posted the following message, or a variant of it as you see fit, to talk pages of possibly interested editors (maybe those who took part in the BLPRFCs?) or editors that you "know" from other wiki interactions, we might be able to finish off the remaining 4875 fairly quickly - remember 5000 UBLPs were removed in December. So, here are my ideas for the messages to users and projects. Feel free to use them as is, edit them, or write your own from scratch... but lets see how big a chunk we can take out of the count in June 2011. (And I'll try to update the "by topic" list count later tonight... Dec 4 is a long time ago!) Cheers, The-Pope ( talk) 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
For users:
Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the Unreferenced Biographies of Living People, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 938 (as of 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). We are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Wikipedia:
All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable references from reliable sources and remove the {{ BLP unsourced}} template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at WP:URBLPR or WT:URBLP.
We understand that everyone has different priorities for their limited time on Wikipedia, so if you are unable to help, that's OK too, but thank you for any assistance you can provide. The-Pope ( talk) 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
For projects:
Since early in 2010, many editors have assisted in the referencing or removal of over 90% of the Unreferenced Biographies of Living People, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 938 (as of 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). We are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Wikipedia:
All you have to do is pick your articles and then add suitable references from reliable sources and remove the {{ BLP unsourced}} template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at WP:URBLPR or WT:URBLP.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. The-Pope ( talk) 15:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I just BLP Prodded about 35 completely unreferenced(with 1 exception) BLPs that where created in the last week. Expect June 2011 to rise for a while. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 23:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Both are marked as Unreference BLPs. It that appropriate? What makes a BLP and can the BLP PROD be applied to bands and similar? Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 00:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Is the reference on Kathleen Gibson considered a reference so that it can NOT be WP:BLPPRODded? Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 18:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm trying to focus in on some of the associated issues to BLP Rescue. One of the things that crops up is the amount of
Unreferenced musician BLPs and the relative slowness that it reduces. This slowness in reduction is in part I think due to the contiued addition of new musician articles marked as unsourced. Many musician pages seems to be one time creations(promotional?). I checked all the recent additions and all off them have at least one link on them, admitely a very low quality one, sometimes the artists personal website, label website, myspace etc. In such cases as have a low quality link should they be marked with the {{
BLP unsourced}}
? The template documentation implies not. Regards,
SunCreator (
talk) 11:57, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
There is a database report that shows only 300-400 articles that would qualify for BLPPROD that are tagged with BLP unreferenced, so cleaning up that grey line won't solve much. I think we can only keep slogging through them one at a time and make a call each time, and the only real solution is to be fairly vicious with PROD/AFDing ones that you don't get an easy ref, and forcing the "It's a BLP so it needs good, significant, reliable, independent references" line at AFD if it seems to be drifting towards a "keep on good faith" type of approach. Parts of the Music project - namely Metal and Opera have both been really good - User:J04n I think was instrumental in that work.
And to be honest, MOST of the topic based tasks have been extremely poor. Unless you get a dedicated editor willing to give it focus, they have all been virtually untouched. Sports & regions have been helped by individual sports/regions - olympics, NFL, Football, hockey, Spain, Sweden, Australia etc being cleared, most of the other topics/regions have only been reduced by this month-by-month clearance. The-Pope ( talk) 15:05, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
It's pretty weird that the following recently created BLPs Niaz Mohammad Chowdhury, Petteri Kolinen, Judith sewell wright, Woody Thompson canNOT be BLP PRODDED. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 23:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
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, I disagree, it's like a cleanup tag as from a BLP point of view it is poor because it doesn't require a reliable source. Those so called "refs" you refer to can be facebook, myspace and any other link going. Articles in
Category:Articles_lacking_in-text_citations does not meet the criteria of having one reliable source, although it might mask the situation. Regards,
SunCreator (
talk) 14:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)