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@ Moonriddengirl: or others: Today I worked on some articles from this list. Per the instructions at the top of the page I added SCV templates (such as 'cleaned' and 'deleted') next to appropriate individual article entries on the list after I determined the article had been deleted or after removed the copy vio concern from that specific article. However, when I came back later I saw that the SCV templates had been removed and the article listings which they referenced remained. What am I doing wrong?-- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
I've been keeping an eye on WP:SCV and doing little bits here and there. I looked today (even though I'm supposed to be on a wikibreak and vacation) and was glad to see that the backlog had been cleared. Awesome, heroic work! — Tom Morris ( talk) 18:10, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
The backlog at WP:SCV is not that bad right now, due in part to the heroic work of a few people and due in part to the frequent breakage of the bot.
I'm wondering if there's a better way to get the community involved in responding to these. I was wondering yesterday whether it would be a good idea to propose that SCV cover articles completely with a template with instructions for next steps - something simpler than the one we use at WP:CP, which can be removed by anyone.
The template would have to acknowledge that there can be many valid reasons for text matches that do not indicate copyright issues, but that due to the identification of a text match, human review is needed to verify the article is one of them. It would acknowledge that there are sometimes false positive. It would request that anyone removing the tag place an explanation at the talk page if the text is not a copyright issue and provide directions for rewriting if it is, but can be fixed. It could also include a caution to article creators that restoring the text as it was posted is not license compliant may lead to a block of their account. It might even include a note that if the copyright issue was a well-intentioned mistake and they do not wish to repair it, leaving the template in place will take care of it, as somebody will fix or delete it.
The purpose is to help better educate people who create the copyright issues so that they can fix the issues themselves, so these notices are not removed without comment leaving copyright issues that are not noticed by new page reviewers who don't check the history (I wouldn't) and so that page reviewers themselves have better instructions on what to do to help resolve these issues.
What do you guys think? Is you like the basic idea I'd be happy to mock-up a template and take it to one of the Village Pumps for feedback.
If you have other basic ideas on what to do to help make this work function better, I'm all ears. :) The one thing I know is that my episodic outreach at WP:AN is of limited use. Not no use; we've picked up people that way. But we need more than one or two.
Some of the people I've thought of who might care ([[User: MER-C | MER-C ]]—[[User: Wizardman | Wizardman ]]—[[User: James086 | James086 ]]—[[User: Justlettersandnumbers | Justlettersandnumbers ]]—[[User: Sphilbrick | Sphilbrick ]]) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:41, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Nobody got the group ping; it just didn't work. Either I did something wrong, or...it just doesn't work. :D There's a lot of technical stuff in here that I don't know. So I'm going to ping a colleague of mine who knows almost everything to see if she knows about potential filters and colors and whatnot. WhatamIdoing, no pressure - I did say you know "almost" everything. :) Do you know if these kinds of things are possible? Easy? Historically never granted? -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:28, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
I just did a brief check and found that almost every single Taiwanese drama created has copy-right issues.... (2000-2010) (2011-present). Many of the korean dramas ( 1997 to 2014) and Japanese dramas have copy-right issues as well. SmileBlueJay97 talk 05:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
What, if anything, should we do when there is obvious Copying within Wikipedia but it's not clear what the source article is, in those all-too-frequent cases when the the contributor does not respond to requests to provide attribution (a single random example is Karosa LC 757)? Day after day here gets hung up on these after all the more serious problems have been dealt with. I've tagged some of these articles with {{ Copying within Wikipedia}}, but I happened to look at the documentation and find that it is "highly unrecommended". Why is that, I wonder? Slightly more drastic would be to redirect the page with a note to say "please restore only with proper attribution"; might that be an acceptable approach? Pinging Moonriddengirl, Wizardman, MER-C, Sphilbrick, Crow – who did I forget? – in case any of them has any comment. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 11:11, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Justlettersandnumbers, if you can't figure it out, you can always blank and list at WP:CP with a note of explanation on the talk page. The content can be retained if attributed, of course, but until then - it's a copyvio. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:40, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
==Copying within Wikipedia==
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from one or more pages into DESTINATION PAGE. While you are welcome to re-use the content of Wikipedia, here or elsewhere, our licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{ copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. Please either provide attribution in this case, or identify the source article so that someone else can do it. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. ~~~~ |
Pinging @ Coren:, @ Crow:, @ Hut 8.5:, @ Moonriddengirl:, @ MER-C:, @ Diannaa: as potential interessees. User:CorenSearchBot currently only works for article and draft namespace, but I see rather frequently copyright violating texts being posted on user pages (chiefly in user sandboxes); would an expansion of the bot's namespace scope make sense? Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 15:02, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Did you copy this content from another Wikipedia article? If so, that's fine, just follow the steps at WP:CWWor something?
::*Make userspace NOINDEX by default (with easy magic-word removal of that, for those who do want indexing)? I'm not sure why that is not currently the case. It would not only limit the exposure of copyvios until we can address them, but also remove much of the motivation for promotional user pages.
Due to the discontinuation of the Yahoo BOSS search API, CorenSearchBot has been down since April 2nd. The WMF Community Tech team is currently working with Coren to find and implement a replacement API. Ryan Kaldari (WMF) ( talk) 22:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Editors interested in identifying and resolving copyright violations may enjoy CopyPatrol, a new tool from Community Tech, powered by User:EranBot. The tool is essentially a web interface for User:EranBot/Copyright/rc, but works much in the same way CorenSearchBot worked by combing recent changes and identifying possible copyright violations. Login with your Wikimedia account to get started. Use "Page fixed" after removing the copyright violation, or "No action needed" if there is no violation or it has already been resolved. You can provide feedback here. Hope you all find this useful! Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) ( talk) 16:53, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
The MFD has concluded with marking this historical, but there are some links to clean up and the page to edit. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:41, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
This project page was nominated for deletion on 8 November 2017. The result of the discussion was mark as historical. |
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@ Moonriddengirl: or others: Today I worked on some articles from this list. Per the instructions at the top of the page I added SCV templates (such as 'cleaned' and 'deleted') next to appropriate individual article entries on the list after I determined the article had been deleted or after removed the copy vio concern from that specific article. However, when I came back later I saw that the SCV templates had been removed and the article listings which they referenced remained. What am I doing wrong?-- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
I've been keeping an eye on WP:SCV and doing little bits here and there. I looked today (even though I'm supposed to be on a wikibreak and vacation) and was glad to see that the backlog had been cleared. Awesome, heroic work! — Tom Morris ( talk) 18:10, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
The backlog at WP:SCV is not that bad right now, due in part to the heroic work of a few people and due in part to the frequent breakage of the bot.
I'm wondering if there's a better way to get the community involved in responding to these. I was wondering yesterday whether it would be a good idea to propose that SCV cover articles completely with a template with instructions for next steps - something simpler than the one we use at WP:CP, which can be removed by anyone.
The template would have to acknowledge that there can be many valid reasons for text matches that do not indicate copyright issues, but that due to the identification of a text match, human review is needed to verify the article is one of them. It would acknowledge that there are sometimes false positive. It would request that anyone removing the tag place an explanation at the talk page if the text is not a copyright issue and provide directions for rewriting if it is, but can be fixed. It could also include a caution to article creators that restoring the text as it was posted is not license compliant may lead to a block of their account. It might even include a note that if the copyright issue was a well-intentioned mistake and they do not wish to repair it, leaving the template in place will take care of it, as somebody will fix or delete it.
The purpose is to help better educate people who create the copyright issues so that they can fix the issues themselves, so these notices are not removed without comment leaving copyright issues that are not noticed by new page reviewers who don't check the history (I wouldn't) and so that page reviewers themselves have better instructions on what to do to help resolve these issues.
What do you guys think? Is you like the basic idea I'd be happy to mock-up a template and take it to one of the Village Pumps for feedback.
If you have other basic ideas on what to do to help make this work function better, I'm all ears. :) The one thing I know is that my episodic outreach at WP:AN is of limited use. Not no use; we've picked up people that way. But we need more than one or two.
Some of the people I've thought of who might care ([[User: MER-C | MER-C ]]—[[User: Wizardman | Wizardman ]]—[[User: James086 | James086 ]]—[[User: Justlettersandnumbers | Justlettersandnumbers ]]—[[User: Sphilbrick | Sphilbrick ]]) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:41, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Nobody got the group ping; it just didn't work. Either I did something wrong, or...it just doesn't work. :D There's a lot of technical stuff in here that I don't know. So I'm going to ping a colleague of mine who knows almost everything to see if she knows about potential filters and colors and whatnot. WhatamIdoing, no pressure - I did say you know "almost" everything. :) Do you know if these kinds of things are possible? Easy? Historically never granted? -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:28, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
I just did a brief check and found that almost every single Taiwanese drama created has copy-right issues.... (2000-2010) (2011-present). Many of the korean dramas ( 1997 to 2014) and Japanese dramas have copy-right issues as well. SmileBlueJay97 talk 05:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
What, if anything, should we do when there is obvious Copying within Wikipedia but it's not clear what the source article is, in those all-too-frequent cases when the the contributor does not respond to requests to provide attribution (a single random example is Karosa LC 757)? Day after day here gets hung up on these after all the more serious problems have been dealt with. I've tagged some of these articles with {{ Copying within Wikipedia}}, but I happened to look at the documentation and find that it is "highly unrecommended". Why is that, I wonder? Slightly more drastic would be to redirect the page with a note to say "please restore only with proper attribution"; might that be an acceptable approach? Pinging Moonriddengirl, Wizardman, MER-C, Sphilbrick, Crow – who did I forget? – in case any of them has any comment. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 11:11, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Justlettersandnumbers, if you can't figure it out, you can always blank and list at WP:CP with a note of explanation on the talk page. The content can be retained if attributed, of course, but until then - it's a copyvio. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:40, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
==Copying within Wikipedia==
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from one or more pages into DESTINATION PAGE. While you are welcome to re-use the content of Wikipedia, here or elsewhere, our licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{ copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. Please either provide attribution in this case, or identify the source article so that someone else can do it. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. ~~~~ |
Pinging @ Coren:, @ Crow:, @ Hut 8.5:, @ Moonriddengirl:, @ MER-C:, @ Diannaa: as potential interessees. User:CorenSearchBot currently only works for article and draft namespace, but I see rather frequently copyright violating texts being posted on user pages (chiefly in user sandboxes); would an expansion of the bot's namespace scope make sense? Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 15:02, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Did you copy this content from another Wikipedia article? If so, that's fine, just follow the steps at WP:CWWor something?
::*Make userspace NOINDEX by default (with easy magic-word removal of that, for those who do want indexing)? I'm not sure why that is not currently the case. It would not only limit the exposure of copyvios until we can address them, but also remove much of the motivation for promotional user pages.
Due to the discontinuation of the Yahoo BOSS search API, CorenSearchBot has been down since April 2nd. The WMF Community Tech team is currently working with Coren to find and implement a replacement API. Ryan Kaldari (WMF) ( talk) 22:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Editors interested in identifying and resolving copyright violations may enjoy CopyPatrol, a new tool from Community Tech, powered by User:EranBot. The tool is essentially a web interface for User:EranBot/Copyright/rc, but works much in the same way CorenSearchBot worked by combing recent changes and identifying possible copyright violations. Login with your Wikimedia account to get started. Use "Page fixed" after removing the copyright violation, or "No action needed" if there is no violation or it has already been resolved. You can provide feedback here. Hope you all find this useful! Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) ( talk) 16:53, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
The MFD has concluded with marking this historical, but there are some links to clean up and the page to edit. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:41, 17 November 2017 (UTC)