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OK, heads up on this one. At Commonwealth Realm there's a barney (or possibly a blarney) over whether the Irish Free State can be described as a Former Commonwealth Realm (it wasn't) or a Former Dominion (it was) for the sake of tidiness. WARNING: arcane terminology and knowledge and gumboots required. -- Pete ( talk) 20:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Mostly finished now, but this was an epic move, move 2, move review, move 3, move 4, all in the space of a few weeks. Result? The article stayed at its original title of Deadmau5. Probably thousands of lines of text over a single character. Debate still continues at Talk:Deadmau5 as to how his name is actually pronounced. Does it deserve a place here? -- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 02:24, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I was trying to make sense of a pointless argument on a Talk Page and someone linked to this Page. It really helps keeps ones feet on the ground and puts things into perspective. Think of what could be accomplished if all of this time and energy went to creating good content. Thanks for pulling this all together! Newjerseyliz ( talk) 00:04, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Section Frequent date of birth to death punctuation contains two examples supposedly showing two different ways to punctuate date ranges. Except that the punctuation of both examples is the same, even in the source text. I'm afraid to be BOLD here. David Spector ( talk) 15:23, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
If you don't think creationism is a myth you're hardly going to be happy that the article is called creation myth. Along with the amount of times the word right, real, good, true etc. are put in quotation marks around here it's clear this site has an anti-religious bias. If you're about to post that reality has an anti-religious bias then don't bother, I see it coming a mile off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.87.126 ( talk) 23:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
How about this dispute ( Arbitration case on Tree shaping) on "tree shaping"? It seems like it should qualify for this list. Liz Read! Talk! 16:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
It's too bad this word was used, with a moment's thought you'll realize you're stating what is non respected content is in the same category as people with disabilities. Could a more thoughtful and descriptive word be used? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.205.238.62 ( talk) 17:06, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Agree. Learningnave, that's certainly a common point of view. That doesn't make it right. Another point of view, especially in those who have disabilities, have friends or people with disabilities in their family, or work professionally helping those with disabilities, is that both "lame" and "crippled" have historically been used in a derisive sense, rather than an objective and descriptive sense. Similarly for "blind", "black", and even "gay" in other contexts. Yes, this is about being aware and considerate of people's feelings. There is nothing wrong with using analogies and similes; they are good rhetoric. But there is something wrong with borrowing words in a way that belittles those with disabilities. And there is also something wrong with giving excuses, as you just did, to ignore people's feelings. "Political correctness" is a good descriptive term when applied to social norms (or even legislative norms) that institutionalize being considerate. But it is misused when one implies that political correctness is in any way a bad thing. We grow as a society through many mechanisms, and political correctness is one of them. If there is a humorous saying that requires suspension of political correctness, I have no use for it. I certainly object to its use in the voice of Wikipedia. If Wikipedia, when it speaks for itself, were to make more use of inconsiderate language, the world would soon notice and might justifiably figure that Wikipedia was getting too big for its britches, acting like a bully having fun at others' expense. We don't need that. David Spector ( talk) 15:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I would like to explore some possible alternatives. If we can agree on one, we can nominate the page to be moved/renamed. Some rather lame ideas:
I highly recommend http://www.guymacon.com/flame.html as a source of inspiration... -- Guy Macon ( talk) 20:21, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
The debate over the title of the Chelsea Manning article has to be breaking some records for length and lameness. Any chance this could get added to the list? NickCT ( talk) 05:50, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I would wait until the dust settles in a month or so, then have a look. Technically, it's a page move war but I think it's a near certainty that lame-ness will fall out of it. Just because one editor thinks it isn't funny, doesn't mean we all share that opinion! ;-) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I am considering making a proposal with the usual support/oppose votes, but first I want to talk it over informally. At this time I am NOT asking for opinions about whether you support or oppose the proposal, but rather for opinions as to whether I am proposing the right thing, suggested tweaks, etc.
Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars has become the "go to" place if you have a grudge or otherwise dislike the results of a discussion, mixed in with a bunch of legitimate entries that, put together, make just deleting the page an undesirable option. I propose the following solution:
MOVING FORWARD
I propose the following guidelines, to be placed at the top of this talk page:
FIXING THE EXISTING ENTRIES
I propose that
Again, I don't want your opinion as to how you would vote, but I do want your opinion as to whether I can improve the proposal.
Suggestions? -- Guy Macon ( talk) 19:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I ended up looking into this because I volunteer at WP:DRN and because Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars is on my watchlist. Please try to take the following in the spirit in which it was intended.
Here is a timeline of the recent "edit war"
13:50, 20 October 2013: 2Awwsome files a case at WP:DRN concerning Frédéric Chopin [3]
16:29, 21 October 2013: 2Awwsome adds Chopin link to Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars [4]
17:16, 21 October 2013: Volunteer Marek Reverts(1RR) [5]
17:31, 21 October 2013: Lesion Reverts (1RR) [6]
17:49, 20 October 2013: 2Awwsome warns Volunteer Marek [7]
18:14, 21 October 2013: Volunteer Marek Reverts (2RR) [8]
18:19, 21 October 2013: 2Awwsome Reverts (1RR) [9]
18:21, 21 October 2013: Volunteer Marek warns 2Awwsome [10]
17:16, 22 October 2013: 24 hours; Volunteer Marek drops to (1RR)
17:22, 22 October 2013: 2Awwsome Self-Reverts (drops to 0RR) [11]
18:19, 21 October 2013: 24 hours; 2Awwsome drops to (0RR) even if the self-revert is not counted.
My conclusion: you all need to get into the habit of following the advice at WP:BRD and WP:TALKDONTREVERT, you need to stop giving people warning on their user pages when they are at 1RR, and you all -- every one of you -- need to do better at working together and discussing issues rather than reaching for the revert button (other than as specified at WP:BRD. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 20:37, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Really, is the purpose of this page to give a forum for axe-grinding for disgruntled edit warriors who fail to convince others on some dispute or obtain consensus so they come here to try and achieve some kind of catharsis?
And btw, this joke got ... lame (and stale and weak), long time ago. Maybe it's time to preserve the page in some historical version and lock it up. Volunteer Marek 18:24, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm wanting to add Highest-valued currency unit as a lame edit war due to edits around the Bitcoin (Is it a currency? What is a currency anyway?) but I'm not sure where it should be included. Politics? Lists? Which section would it fit best in? ZanderSchubert ( talk) 07:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
It appears that there is only one citation after the word 'Hungarian' in reference to his nationality. 180.200.158.158 ( talk) 01:22, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Why isn't Senkaku Islands listed yet? I have zero interest in these barren uninhabited islands that Japan, China, and Taiwan want so badly, but there are always messages flying around Wikipedia about the war over the page's title. Lame! Ntsimp ( talk) 16:40, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
I think I may have started a edit war against 70.27.98.190, and I am very strictly saying that, he has put an edit that says that WZJZ has been killed along with 5 other stations, and at the same time, it was also a "Wiki hoax." I believe that massacare involving a gang of woman so clever to kill stations and forcing the FCC to give them up is not real as it has never happened ever and would have been a first. It would have also been the most catastrophic event in broadcasting HISTORY!!! I believe this should be stopped, please sign or comment about this on 70.27.98.190's talk page and make him stop this.
Thanks! 50.9.114.198 ( talk) 02:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
P.S. I fixed this problem, so this lame edit war has ended, but you can still reply to this man that did it, NOT ME, and tell why you did this and if you agree.
Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.9.114.198 ( talk) 03:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
This page on an Aztec mythical monster has seen an edit war regarding a "popular culture" section about the creature's brief appearance in an episode of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Edit summaries include ""In Pop Culture" sections are discouraged per WP:POPCULTURE (you cretin))," "gas all bronies," and one that nicely sums up this whole matter: "shut up about ponies goddamn" 69.111.73.139 ( talk) 01:09, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this qualifies. September 19, 2014 there was a rapid-fire revert war at Dicksucker.
Dispute: Can Dicksucker redirect to Fellatio? (Dicksucker technically refers the person rather than the act.)
The odd angle is that the reverts were of a WP:DUMMYEDIT, abusing the editsummary to argue it. Alsee ( talk) 06:50, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
See where I mentioned WP:Lamest edit wars at Talk:Dicksucker. Flyer22 ( talk) 06:57, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
I just wanted to take a moment to thank all who have participated in creating this article. I think it is a riot, teeming with subtle and sardonic humor. I really appreciated it. (I do, however, think that the caution sign is totally unnecessary and subtracts from the effect. The average person who participates on Wikipedia is very intelligent and erudite.)
I’ve never been involved with an edit war and have never taken down anyone else’s contributions without first building a consensus to do so on the relevant talk pages. However, I once came close. I was astonished when after I had added a quotation to the Agathon article to discover it had been reverted in record time by another editor. Agathon? That immortal Athenian tragic poet whose name lies in the hearts of men and women everywhere? Come now. I tell you my blood was boiling, and I was all ready to revert the reversion and demand a hearing with the Wiki Supreme Court (or whatever) if this rogue editor persisted with such vandalism of my august contribution! However, I managed to check my baser instincts and engaged in constructive dialogue with the other editor and reached a compromise. Ah, such are the virtues of politic! After all, this was hardly the Climate Change or the Israel-Palestine Conflict articles. So one can understand why I was taken aback. Today Agathon, tomorrow Jerusalem! We can do it! HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 15:06, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Are U2 an "Irish band" or simply a band that happen to be from Ireland, since two of their members were born in the UK? All parties to this edit war were equally mistaken as they are neither an Irish Band, A British band, a British-Irish band or an Irish-British band. They are in fact a Dutch band and have been ever since they became resident for tax purposes in the Netherlands. Netgeek-UK ( talk) 21:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
The edit war is here Persian Gulf naming dispute 78.148.75.177 ( talk) 15:40, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
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I am requesting that the link from " ~*~ StAr TrEk InTo DaRkNeSs ~*~ " under Star Trek (I/i)nto Darkness under Names be removed, as: ►It is a non-useful redlink ►the page it linked to was deleted, with a prohibition on recreating it. Alex33212 ( talk) 02:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
The section "Deletion wars" contains both the lines "6: ... Earth (all April Fools' jokes)..." and "... pages that are nominated for deletion during April Fools. Examples include Earth (nine times)..." Which is it? Presumably this error has never been caught before because no one has ever read that far down the page. Will some wikihistorian please correct this contradiction? 50.46.200.131 ( talk) 07:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
This settles it. Copernicus is not Polish, German, or Prussian. He is from the lovely country of Renaissance. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:11, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Julius Caesar has never tasted a Caesar Salad. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:14, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Whichever Final fantasy game is more canon, that's what her name shall be. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
This reptile is in it's own order, the Rhynchocephalia. It's not a lizard or an amniote. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:25, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
If there is a conflict between British vs. American spelling, the British spelling should be canon, since Wikipedia was invented in Great Britain. I hope this will prevent further stupid edit wars. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:30, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
The article currently calls hummus a snack. In the West, hummus is eaten as a snack condiment, but in the Middle East hummus is eaten as a meal on all sides of the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.11.48 ( talk) 19:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Does he qualify for Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons? Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:39, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
The word 'Lamest' should be something that's not a slur, i nominate Silliest. [1] 212.51.117.25 ( talk) 17:36, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Silly is offensive to the holy, happy people. I protest. It should be self-offensive to all of us. What about: Full-assed, lamest, blindest, dumbest, niggardliest, moronicest, idioticest, silliest, disablingest wars? then? Zezen ( talk) 16:15, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
I propose most interesting edits wars or perhaps most notable edit wars 78.148.75.177 ( talk) 17:19, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
They're not just notable, but notable because of how particularly useless they are. I'm not sure any of the other suggestions really mean the same. Yes, it could be a slur, but many words have many different meanings, and that's not the way it's used in this context. I might suggest stupid, but that could be a slur too if only you go back in time a little.
Benjamin (
talk) 17:22, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
References
Not sure whether this belongs in the fan section or the separate fan page. Sourcing is impressive: 'Washington Post' published a summary on this edit war over whether Garfield the cat is male or gender neutral--both sides of the warring factions cited sources of their own. [12] Leaving the decision to others on how to categorize (perhaps an incipient "Edit wars so lame they made real world news")? Skrydstrup ( talk) 19:39, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Any move war over the difference between a primary title and a redirect. Most recently it has had to do with Ching Hai, whose disciples call Supreme Master Ching Hai. The redirect has been there for ten years, but some of her disciples apparently want to insist that the form with the honorific be primary. They can find her anyway. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:54, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
The article name here should match the actual article name, right? Benjamin ( talk) 09:16, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
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Add a semi-protection template to the top of the page so readers will know that it's semi-protected without having to click "View Source." 98.197.198.46 ( talk) 22:13, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
The main reason that I transcluded the pages was so there wouldn't be a content fork, where information would be added to the parent page or the appropriate child page—but not both. There are also other benefits, like improved ability to navigate through the editor. What do you think? The Nth User I like to use parser functions. Care to differ or discuss? 18:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Can we please start a meta- editwar about WP:LAME? ((( The Quixotic Potato))) ( talk) 18:45, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Anyone know when the T Rex self edit war was? It sounds funny and I'd love to see a link to the edits in question. Macoroni ( talk) 12:08, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
In all seriousness we can never let something like this be merged, removed or die, because it serves as a mirror to those who organize edit- Agincourts over petty squabbles. Double Plus Ungood ( talk) 22:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
I like it too, but it seems kind of old? Like, a MAJORITY of all content is from 2009/2010 edit wars, (not that this is bad in itself, and I don't think they should be removed or anything,) but has nothing notable happened in the last 7 years? 65.129.144.106 ( talk) 03:51, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Hey guys! I'm not sure if these belong here but the talk pages on Vikings, Norsemen & Oeselians certainly look quite impressive right now :) Blomsterhagens ( talk) 17:05, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
What are the criteria for inclusion for this page? Is length enough? Could an edit war be very long, but not very lame? Is there any place to document content disputes that aren't really edit wars? Benjamin ( talk) 10:35, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
It appears to be seven citations immediately after "Hungarian", not nine. Should I edit the article over this lame, minor pedantic point or will I spark an editing war? aspaa 00:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
The page right now is very long. I propose, sections be made based on Quality and barely funny needs to be culled out. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 13:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. WP:SNOW Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:55, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars →
Wikipedia:Most ridiculous edit wars – This article should be moved per
WP:OM; "lame" can be considered a slur and while Wikipedia is not censored, there is no encyclopedic or humorous reason to include this. The same point can be communicated using "ridiculous" or similar language.
Aspening (
talk) 18:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Earlier I did a couple italic runs of the page, but haven't read it in detail yet and look forward to doing so. But I just came across this gem in the article and wanted to share it so those who haven't focused some attention on it yet could maybe check it out: "....Bot v Bot v Bot v Bot.... In a spree of 60 edits in less than 20 minutes, four bots edit warred about which hidden comment should be added to the top of Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism."
So, has there ever been an edit war on WP:LAME? (And now that I've asked this question, if the answer is "not yet", on the grounds of WP:BEANS I will indef block anyone who engages in one here. If I bother to notice.) -- llywrch ( talk) 08:32, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Particularly in ethnicity and nationality section? Kay girl 97 ( talk) 01:25, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
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Edit the sub-header for consistency: instead of Kyiv / Kiev, the capital of Ukraine
change it to Kyiv / Kiev
(and also to be consistent with
Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars/Names#Involving_other_languages).--
73.75.115.5 (
talk) 13:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Could anyone please cover COVID-19 vs. Coronavirus disease 2019 and SARS-CoV-2 vs. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 disputes? There is even a template now in the beginning of Talk:Coronavirus disease 2019. Note that a move review is now ongoing. Quite tangential, but just as lame: Spanish flu vs. 1918 flu pandemic and 1889–1890 flu pandemic vs. 1889–1890 pandemic. Ain92 ( talk) 20:17, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
In the most recent article about this page (disclosure: I am quoted but hadn't seen the article until today), the author notes at the top that this page uses ableist language (specifically our use of lame). The best alternative I could come up with "Most ridiculous edit wars". Before starting a move discussion I thought it might make sense to try and see if there is any brainstorming around a possible name. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:07, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
At List of Starship flights the question of wether some Starship test flights were a success, a failure, a partial success, a partial failure, a succesful flight with a failed landing or a successful flight and landing with a failed recovery have/had a good potential. My main doubt is that it may have degenerated from a lame edit war to a lame talk page discussion too fast for inclusion in this list. Personuser ( talk) 20:25, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Does the edit war on Dante (name), Jerry (given name), and Hyperion belong here? I ask because I tried to add it, but then it got removed. Going to try and reach a consensus before this becomes meta-lame. The person who removed it said that it lasted for under an hour and wasn't even notable, but other edit wars on this page fit the description. RteeeeKed ( talk) 19:14, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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OK, heads up on this one. At Commonwealth Realm there's a barney (or possibly a blarney) over whether the Irish Free State can be described as a Former Commonwealth Realm (it wasn't) or a Former Dominion (it was) for the sake of tidiness. WARNING: arcane terminology and knowledge and gumboots required. -- Pete ( talk) 20:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Mostly finished now, but this was an epic move, move 2, move review, move 3, move 4, all in the space of a few weeks. Result? The article stayed at its original title of Deadmau5. Probably thousands of lines of text over a single character. Debate still continues at Talk:Deadmau5 as to how his name is actually pronounced. Does it deserve a place here? -- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 02:24, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I was trying to make sense of a pointless argument on a Talk Page and someone linked to this Page. It really helps keeps ones feet on the ground and puts things into perspective. Think of what could be accomplished if all of this time and energy went to creating good content. Thanks for pulling this all together! Newjerseyliz ( talk) 00:04, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Section Frequent date of birth to death punctuation contains two examples supposedly showing two different ways to punctuate date ranges. Except that the punctuation of both examples is the same, even in the source text. I'm afraid to be BOLD here. David Spector ( talk) 15:23, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
If you don't think creationism is a myth you're hardly going to be happy that the article is called creation myth. Along with the amount of times the word right, real, good, true etc. are put in quotation marks around here it's clear this site has an anti-religious bias. If you're about to post that reality has an anti-religious bias then don't bother, I see it coming a mile off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.87.126 ( talk) 23:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
How about this dispute ( Arbitration case on Tree shaping) on "tree shaping"? It seems like it should qualify for this list. Liz Read! Talk! 16:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
It's too bad this word was used, with a moment's thought you'll realize you're stating what is non respected content is in the same category as people with disabilities. Could a more thoughtful and descriptive word be used? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.205.238.62 ( talk) 17:06, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Agree. Learningnave, that's certainly a common point of view. That doesn't make it right. Another point of view, especially in those who have disabilities, have friends or people with disabilities in their family, or work professionally helping those with disabilities, is that both "lame" and "crippled" have historically been used in a derisive sense, rather than an objective and descriptive sense. Similarly for "blind", "black", and even "gay" in other contexts. Yes, this is about being aware and considerate of people's feelings. There is nothing wrong with using analogies and similes; they are good rhetoric. But there is something wrong with borrowing words in a way that belittles those with disabilities. And there is also something wrong with giving excuses, as you just did, to ignore people's feelings. "Political correctness" is a good descriptive term when applied to social norms (or even legislative norms) that institutionalize being considerate. But it is misused when one implies that political correctness is in any way a bad thing. We grow as a society through many mechanisms, and political correctness is one of them. If there is a humorous saying that requires suspension of political correctness, I have no use for it. I certainly object to its use in the voice of Wikipedia. If Wikipedia, when it speaks for itself, were to make more use of inconsiderate language, the world would soon notice and might justifiably figure that Wikipedia was getting too big for its britches, acting like a bully having fun at others' expense. We don't need that. David Spector ( talk) 15:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I would like to explore some possible alternatives. If we can agree on one, we can nominate the page to be moved/renamed. Some rather lame ideas:
I highly recommend http://www.guymacon.com/flame.html as a source of inspiration... -- Guy Macon ( talk) 20:21, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
The debate over the title of the Chelsea Manning article has to be breaking some records for length and lameness. Any chance this could get added to the list? NickCT ( talk) 05:50, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I would wait until the dust settles in a month or so, then have a look. Technically, it's a page move war but I think it's a near certainty that lame-ness will fall out of it. Just because one editor thinks it isn't funny, doesn't mean we all share that opinion! ;-) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I am considering making a proposal with the usual support/oppose votes, but first I want to talk it over informally. At this time I am NOT asking for opinions about whether you support or oppose the proposal, but rather for opinions as to whether I am proposing the right thing, suggested tweaks, etc.
Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars has become the "go to" place if you have a grudge or otherwise dislike the results of a discussion, mixed in with a bunch of legitimate entries that, put together, make just deleting the page an undesirable option. I propose the following solution:
MOVING FORWARD
I propose the following guidelines, to be placed at the top of this talk page:
FIXING THE EXISTING ENTRIES
I propose that
Again, I don't want your opinion as to how you would vote, but I do want your opinion as to whether I can improve the proposal.
Suggestions? -- Guy Macon ( talk) 19:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I ended up looking into this because I volunteer at WP:DRN and because Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars is on my watchlist. Please try to take the following in the spirit in which it was intended.
Here is a timeline of the recent "edit war"
13:50, 20 October 2013: 2Awwsome files a case at WP:DRN concerning Frédéric Chopin [3]
16:29, 21 October 2013: 2Awwsome adds Chopin link to Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars [4]
17:16, 21 October 2013: Volunteer Marek Reverts(1RR) [5]
17:31, 21 October 2013: Lesion Reverts (1RR) [6]
17:49, 20 October 2013: 2Awwsome warns Volunteer Marek [7]
18:14, 21 October 2013: Volunteer Marek Reverts (2RR) [8]
18:19, 21 October 2013: 2Awwsome Reverts (1RR) [9]
18:21, 21 October 2013: Volunteer Marek warns 2Awwsome [10]
17:16, 22 October 2013: 24 hours; Volunteer Marek drops to (1RR)
17:22, 22 October 2013: 2Awwsome Self-Reverts (drops to 0RR) [11]
18:19, 21 October 2013: 24 hours; 2Awwsome drops to (0RR) even if the self-revert is not counted.
My conclusion: you all need to get into the habit of following the advice at WP:BRD and WP:TALKDONTREVERT, you need to stop giving people warning on their user pages when they are at 1RR, and you all -- every one of you -- need to do better at working together and discussing issues rather than reaching for the revert button (other than as specified at WP:BRD. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 20:37, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Really, is the purpose of this page to give a forum for axe-grinding for disgruntled edit warriors who fail to convince others on some dispute or obtain consensus so they come here to try and achieve some kind of catharsis?
And btw, this joke got ... lame (and stale and weak), long time ago. Maybe it's time to preserve the page in some historical version and lock it up. Volunteer Marek 18:24, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm wanting to add Highest-valued currency unit as a lame edit war due to edits around the Bitcoin (Is it a currency? What is a currency anyway?) but I'm not sure where it should be included. Politics? Lists? Which section would it fit best in? ZanderSchubert ( talk) 07:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
It appears that there is only one citation after the word 'Hungarian' in reference to his nationality. 180.200.158.158 ( talk) 01:22, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Why isn't Senkaku Islands listed yet? I have zero interest in these barren uninhabited islands that Japan, China, and Taiwan want so badly, but there are always messages flying around Wikipedia about the war over the page's title. Lame! Ntsimp ( talk) 16:40, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
I think I may have started a edit war against 70.27.98.190, and I am very strictly saying that, he has put an edit that says that WZJZ has been killed along with 5 other stations, and at the same time, it was also a "Wiki hoax." I believe that massacare involving a gang of woman so clever to kill stations and forcing the FCC to give them up is not real as it has never happened ever and would have been a first. It would have also been the most catastrophic event in broadcasting HISTORY!!! I believe this should be stopped, please sign or comment about this on 70.27.98.190's talk page and make him stop this.
Thanks! 50.9.114.198 ( talk) 02:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
P.S. I fixed this problem, so this lame edit war has ended, but you can still reply to this man that did it, NOT ME, and tell why you did this and if you agree.
Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.9.114.198 ( talk) 03:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
This page on an Aztec mythical monster has seen an edit war regarding a "popular culture" section about the creature's brief appearance in an episode of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Edit summaries include ""In Pop Culture" sections are discouraged per WP:POPCULTURE (you cretin))," "gas all bronies," and one that nicely sums up this whole matter: "shut up about ponies goddamn" 69.111.73.139 ( talk) 01:09, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this qualifies. September 19, 2014 there was a rapid-fire revert war at Dicksucker.
Dispute: Can Dicksucker redirect to Fellatio? (Dicksucker technically refers the person rather than the act.)
The odd angle is that the reverts were of a WP:DUMMYEDIT, abusing the editsummary to argue it. Alsee ( talk) 06:50, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
See where I mentioned WP:Lamest edit wars at Talk:Dicksucker. Flyer22 ( talk) 06:57, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
I just wanted to take a moment to thank all who have participated in creating this article. I think it is a riot, teeming with subtle and sardonic humor. I really appreciated it. (I do, however, think that the caution sign is totally unnecessary and subtracts from the effect. The average person who participates on Wikipedia is very intelligent and erudite.)
I’ve never been involved with an edit war and have never taken down anyone else’s contributions without first building a consensus to do so on the relevant talk pages. However, I once came close. I was astonished when after I had added a quotation to the Agathon article to discover it had been reverted in record time by another editor. Agathon? That immortal Athenian tragic poet whose name lies in the hearts of men and women everywhere? Come now. I tell you my blood was boiling, and I was all ready to revert the reversion and demand a hearing with the Wiki Supreme Court (or whatever) if this rogue editor persisted with such vandalism of my august contribution! However, I managed to check my baser instincts and engaged in constructive dialogue with the other editor and reached a compromise. Ah, such are the virtues of politic! After all, this was hardly the Climate Change or the Israel-Palestine Conflict articles. So one can understand why I was taken aback. Today Agathon, tomorrow Jerusalem! We can do it! HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 15:06, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Are U2 an "Irish band" or simply a band that happen to be from Ireland, since two of their members were born in the UK? All parties to this edit war were equally mistaken as they are neither an Irish Band, A British band, a British-Irish band or an Irish-British band. They are in fact a Dutch band and have been ever since they became resident for tax purposes in the Netherlands. Netgeek-UK ( talk) 21:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
The edit war is here Persian Gulf naming dispute 78.148.75.177 ( talk) 15:40, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
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I am requesting that the link from " ~*~ StAr TrEk InTo DaRkNeSs ~*~ " under Star Trek (I/i)nto Darkness under Names be removed, as: ►It is a non-useful redlink ►the page it linked to was deleted, with a prohibition on recreating it. Alex33212 ( talk) 02:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
The section "Deletion wars" contains both the lines "6: ... Earth (all April Fools' jokes)..." and "... pages that are nominated for deletion during April Fools. Examples include Earth (nine times)..." Which is it? Presumably this error has never been caught before because no one has ever read that far down the page. Will some wikihistorian please correct this contradiction? 50.46.200.131 ( talk) 07:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
This settles it. Copernicus is not Polish, German, or Prussian. He is from the lovely country of Renaissance. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:11, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Julius Caesar has never tasted a Caesar Salad. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:14, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Whichever Final fantasy game is more canon, that's what her name shall be. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
This reptile is in it's own order, the Rhynchocephalia. It's not a lizard or an amniote. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:25, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
If there is a conflict between British vs. American spelling, the British spelling should be canon, since Wikipedia was invented in Great Britain. I hope this will prevent further stupid edit wars. Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:30, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
The article currently calls hummus a snack. In the West, hummus is eaten as a snack condiment, but in the Middle East hummus is eaten as a meal on all sides of the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.11.48 ( talk) 19:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Does he qualify for Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons? Charizardmewtwo ( talk) 18:39, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
The word 'Lamest' should be something that's not a slur, i nominate Silliest. [1] 212.51.117.25 ( talk) 17:36, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Silly is offensive to the holy, happy people. I protest. It should be self-offensive to all of us. What about: Full-assed, lamest, blindest, dumbest, niggardliest, moronicest, idioticest, silliest, disablingest wars? then? Zezen ( talk) 16:15, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
I propose most interesting edits wars or perhaps most notable edit wars 78.148.75.177 ( talk) 17:19, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
They're not just notable, but notable because of how particularly useless they are. I'm not sure any of the other suggestions really mean the same. Yes, it could be a slur, but many words have many different meanings, and that's not the way it's used in this context. I might suggest stupid, but that could be a slur too if only you go back in time a little.
Benjamin (
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References
Not sure whether this belongs in the fan section or the separate fan page. Sourcing is impressive: 'Washington Post' published a summary on this edit war over whether Garfield the cat is male or gender neutral--both sides of the warring factions cited sources of their own. [12] Leaving the decision to others on how to categorize (perhaps an incipient "Edit wars so lame they made real world news")? Skrydstrup ( talk) 19:39, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Any move war over the difference between a primary title and a redirect. Most recently it has had to do with Ching Hai, whose disciples call Supreme Master Ching Hai. The redirect has been there for ten years, but some of her disciples apparently want to insist that the form with the honorific be primary. They can find her anyway. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:54, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
The article name here should match the actual article name, right? Benjamin ( talk) 09:16, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
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Add a semi-protection template to the top of the page so readers will know that it's semi-protected without having to click "View Source." 98.197.198.46 ( talk) 22:13, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
The main reason that I transcluded the pages was so there wouldn't be a content fork, where information would be added to the parent page or the appropriate child page—but not both. There are also other benefits, like improved ability to navigate through the editor. What do you think? The Nth User I like to use parser functions. Care to differ or discuss? 18:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Can we please start a meta- editwar about WP:LAME? ((( The Quixotic Potato))) ( talk) 18:45, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Anyone know when the T Rex self edit war was? It sounds funny and I'd love to see a link to the edits in question. Macoroni ( talk) 12:08, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
In all seriousness we can never let something like this be merged, removed or die, because it serves as a mirror to those who organize edit- Agincourts over petty squabbles. Double Plus Ungood ( talk) 22:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
I like it too, but it seems kind of old? Like, a MAJORITY of all content is from 2009/2010 edit wars, (not that this is bad in itself, and I don't think they should be removed or anything,) but has nothing notable happened in the last 7 years? 65.129.144.106 ( talk) 03:51, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Hey guys! I'm not sure if these belong here but the talk pages on Vikings, Norsemen & Oeselians certainly look quite impressive right now :) Blomsterhagens ( talk) 17:05, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
What are the criteria for inclusion for this page? Is length enough? Could an edit war be very long, but not very lame? Is there any place to document content disputes that aren't really edit wars? Benjamin ( talk) 10:35, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
It appears to be seven citations immediately after "Hungarian", not nine. Should I edit the article over this lame, minor pedantic point or will I spark an editing war? aspaa 00:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
The page right now is very long. I propose, sections be made based on Quality and barely funny needs to be culled out. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 13:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. WP:SNOW Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:55, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars →
Wikipedia:Most ridiculous edit wars – This article should be moved per
WP:OM; "lame" can be considered a slur and while Wikipedia is not censored, there is no encyclopedic or humorous reason to include this. The same point can be communicated using "ridiculous" or similar language.
Aspening (
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Earlier I did a couple italic runs of the page, but haven't read it in detail yet and look forward to doing so. But I just came across this gem in the article and wanted to share it so those who haven't focused some attention on it yet could maybe check it out: "....Bot v Bot v Bot v Bot.... In a spree of 60 edits in less than 20 minutes, four bots edit warred about which hidden comment should be added to the top of Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism."
So, has there ever been an edit war on WP:LAME? (And now that I've asked this question, if the answer is "not yet", on the grounds of WP:BEANS I will indef block anyone who engages in one here. If I bother to notice.) -- llywrch ( talk) 08:32, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Particularly in ethnicity and nationality section? Kay girl 97 ( talk) 01:25, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
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Edit the sub-header for consistency: instead of Kyiv / Kiev, the capital of Ukraine
change it to Kyiv / Kiev
(and also to be consistent with
Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars/Names#Involving_other_languages).--
73.75.115.5 (
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Could anyone please cover COVID-19 vs. Coronavirus disease 2019 and SARS-CoV-2 vs. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 disputes? There is even a template now in the beginning of Talk:Coronavirus disease 2019. Note that a move review is now ongoing. Quite tangential, but just as lame: Spanish flu vs. 1918 flu pandemic and 1889–1890 flu pandemic vs. 1889–1890 pandemic. Ain92 ( talk) 20:17, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
In the most recent article about this page (disclosure: I am quoted but hadn't seen the article until today), the author notes at the top that this page uses ableist language (specifically our use of lame). The best alternative I could come up with "Most ridiculous edit wars". Before starting a move discussion I thought it might make sense to try and see if there is any brainstorming around a possible name. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:07, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
At List of Starship flights the question of wether some Starship test flights were a success, a failure, a partial success, a partial failure, a succesful flight with a failed landing or a successful flight and landing with a failed recovery have/had a good potential. My main doubt is that it may have degenerated from a lame edit war to a lame talk page discussion too fast for inclusion in this list. Personuser ( talk) 20:25, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Does the edit war on Dante (name), Jerry (given name), and Hyperion belong here? I ask because I tried to add it, but then it got removed. Going to try and reach a consensus before this becomes meta-lame. The person who removed it said that it lasted for under an hour and wasn't even notable, but other edit wars on this page fit the description. RteeeeKed ( talk) 19:14, 5 April 2021 (UTC)