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Hi! I have a question about the difference between using a bot and the very useful User:Lupin's Popups tool. I've tried working with solve_disambiguation.py in manual mode in conjunction with the popup-tool and met with great success. Based on the information contained within the WP:BOT article page, any use of pywikipedia should be done under a bot account. Though, I don't see much difference in running the bot in a manual mode (where each edit is scrutinized and responded to on screen) and using the Popups tool to do the same thing. Would one also need a bot account to use the automated editing available in Popups? Just wondering before I consider continuing with pywikipedia or stick with Popups. Thanks :-). >: Roby Wayne Talk 07:30, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
We are Luigi30. You will be assimil... wrong bot.
I (Luigi30) am looking for approval on a bot to clean out WP:RA's created articles. Obviously it'd require approval to delete each link so I don't clean out legitimate blue links (redirects, sources). It'd run using pywikipedia. I don't think I'd need to run it more than once a week seeing as how infrequently Requested Articles is used. It takes me 3 hours to do it by hand, I'd say it'd take a couple hours to put together the bot and it'd be a whole lot quicker to delete each one. I've got the username LuigiBot as you can tell. LuigiBot 22:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I hereby request approval for running bot MalafayaBot. This bot will exchange interwikis between the English and Georgian Wikipedia using the pywikipedia software. Malafaya 18:01, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I am looking for approval to run my WikiBot: User:Aweebot . I will start the bot nightly or every other night at 8 PM PST. It will run on wikipedia en and it is running pywikipedia. This bot will do Solve Disambiguation, Categories, Redirects, interWiki. Why do I need the bot? Well I want to help out in the Wikicommunity to make wikipedia even better. Is it important enough for Wikipedia to allow my bot? I think another bot helping out would make wikipedia better, as there is a growing ammount of articles, we want to keep growing and not have mistakes that never get fixed on articles. Thanks -- Actown 02:55, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
On basis of what is the interwiki bot policy being made? The policy as it is now makes it impossible to actually run the bot, because it will get all interwikis. Apparently it was created by someone who has not first checked the actual working of the bot. Who was it, where has this been decided, and what can I do to get the policy under discussion again? - Andre Engels 09:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
How about we amend the policy to the following:
If using the pywikipedia framework:
Users who run such bots must prove themselves to be responsible and harmless, and work closely with the community of interwiki bot operators. Users who come from other language Wikipedias must demonstrate some proof of credibility, such as being an Administrator of a major language Wikipedia, Bureacrat, developer for the pywikipedia framework, or being vouched by a credibile user on the English Wikipedia.
Would that be much better? Instead of focusing on whether a user can speak the language, how about focus on whether the user is responsible enough to keep on eye on their bot, and stop their bot if it goes awry. The issue that I want to try to avoid is that an operator of an interwiki bot refuses to stop his or her bot on the basis they believe it is working correctly, when there is evidence that is not. -- AllyUnion (talk) 00:15, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#A cut and paste bot. Who was running this? jni 08:37, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it would be worth having a standardised means of flagging unauthorised bots. How about a template to stick on the user talk page of a suspected bot? It would serve a triple purpose:
-- Smjg 12:04, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
User:DHN-bot - an Interwiki bot to exchange interwiki with the Vietnamese Wikipedia. DHN 22:18, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
What computer language do one uses to create Wikipedia bots? CG 22:35, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
This is a request from my talk page: -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Would it be possible for you to add to sandbot (or some other regularly-run bot) the unconditional deletion of the weather in London? Wikipedia:How to edit a page uses this title as an example of a red link but of course it keeps getting created. -- RHaworth 17:02, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
The answer yes, but requires community approval. -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
This is the text from Wikipedia:How to edit a page:
The weather in London is a page that does not exist yet.
Sorry about my ocnfusion over protecting a page. Will creation of the page show up on a Watchlist. If so, then a bot is hardly necessary (but won't do any harm), if a couple of admins have the page on their watchlists it will get deleted fast enough.-- Commander Keane 05:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
This is a new user who appears to be using some sort of automated or semi-automated spellchecker script, which appears to be systematically violating spelling conventions by switching to the British style. If someone could politely handle this matter, it would be appreciated, as I have little technical knowledge in this area. — MC MasterChef :: Leave a tip — 09:25, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
This bot has been used by its owner Bluemoose ( talk · contribs) to move the 1911 template under the References heading. I disagree with this action, for a number of reasons:
Is there concensus for Bluebot's actions? This particular activity is not cited in the request (above) which is for other valuable stuff. (I have also asked this question on the template's talk page, and will do elsewhere as well.) Noisy | Talk 10:09, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The author is requested to resolve all questions, and problems before the bot is blocked. -- AllyUnion (talk) 13:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
As is pointed out above, Noisy is completely wrong, there is no issue to resolve. I answered Belands question where he asked it, why do you say it was unresolved? Since then I have moved on to do other things with my bot. I have made ~60,000 edits with my bot with no valid compaints and many compliments. I have unblocked my bot now. Martin 14:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Martin 15:50, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Users using bots should be aware that they should make every effort to run their bots off a server, on a separate IP address. Due to changes in dealing with sockpuppets in the MediaWiki software, a block of a user with a bot that runs off the same computer that the user edits, will cause the user unable to edit. -- AllyUnion (talk) 23:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
First, I want to apologise for running a semi-automated edit tool from my own account without even realising that there was a procedure for seeking approval. Someone soon put me right on that one, so I've stopped using it and come here.
I want to run a program that helps me correct common errors in cricket articles by identifying candidate errors for me to consider. I'm not even sure whether this counts as a bot. One proposal earlier on this page suggests to me that some people might not consider it to be a true bot, although I would tend to think of it as one; but let me give you more details.
So far, I've been running it to correct "test" to "Test" (in the sense of Test match, an international cricket match). The bot is written in Perl and it works as follows:
So it doesn't make any edits itself. I run it occasionally, it downloads maybe fifty pages, I make twenty edits myself in the space of a minute or two, and then I wait a few minutes or a few hours before running it again. Have a look at my last 500 contributions for the typical impact.
My ideas for future tasks that this could do
We currently have something over 1500 cricket biographies, and a few hundred other cricket articles, so a program like this is a natural solution to improve conformance to WikiProject Cricket agreed house style.
So my questions are
Thanks very much. I hope that's enough information, but please ask if you need to know anything more.
Stephen Turner 12:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I am requesting that AFD Bot to purge the page cache of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion at 00:01 UTC every day. -- AllyUnion (talk) 21:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I have listed a series of redirects that start with "2005 English cricket season/" here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket#Redirects_that_need_fixing. Do you want a bot to go and remove the pages linking to them, then mark them for speedy deletion? -- AllyUnion (talk) 18:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Kakashi Bot will be used to perform this task.
I had an idea this evening - what about a bot or similar program (perhaps running on a local copy of wikipedia). It would cross reference between articles in different languages, looking for images that are in one, but not another.
Images frequently break the language barrier, and who knows what hidden gems might be found using this methodology? I propose that the results of this program would be put in a Wikipedia namespace page, so that individuals could work on cross-dissemination of images in a decentralized fashion (in the spirit of wikipedia).
A much more aggressive approach (I'm not sure what I think about this) would be to have a bot take this output and tag the bottom of every page for which an image was available in another language.
What do people think? I wouldn't mind providing some of the programming talent for this, but this kind of wikiwide action would need some pretty hefty official support. - JustinWick 01:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | ← | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | Archive 14 | Archive 15 | Archive 16 | → | Archive 20 |
Hi! I have a question about the difference between using a bot and the very useful User:Lupin's Popups tool. I've tried working with solve_disambiguation.py in manual mode in conjunction with the popup-tool and met with great success. Based on the information contained within the WP:BOT article page, any use of pywikipedia should be done under a bot account. Though, I don't see much difference in running the bot in a manual mode (where each edit is scrutinized and responded to on screen) and using the Popups tool to do the same thing. Would one also need a bot account to use the automated editing available in Popups? Just wondering before I consider continuing with pywikipedia or stick with Popups. Thanks :-). >: Roby Wayne Talk 07:30, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
We are Luigi30. You will be assimil... wrong bot.
I (Luigi30) am looking for approval on a bot to clean out WP:RA's created articles. Obviously it'd require approval to delete each link so I don't clean out legitimate blue links (redirects, sources). It'd run using pywikipedia. I don't think I'd need to run it more than once a week seeing as how infrequently Requested Articles is used. It takes me 3 hours to do it by hand, I'd say it'd take a couple hours to put together the bot and it'd be a whole lot quicker to delete each one. I've got the username LuigiBot as you can tell. LuigiBot 22:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I hereby request approval for running bot MalafayaBot. This bot will exchange interwikis between the English and Georgian Wikipedia using the pywikipedia software. Malafaya 18:01, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I am looking for approval to run my WikiBot: User:Aweebot . I will start the bot nightly or every other night at 8 PM PST. It will run on wikipedia en and it is running pywikipedia. This bot will do Solve Disambiguation, Categories, Redirects, interWiki. Why do I need the bot? Well I want to help out in the Wikicommunity to make wikipedia even better. Is it important enough for Wikipedia to allow my bot? I think another bot helping out would make wikipedia better, as there is a growing ammount of articles, we want to keep growing and not have mistakes that never get fixed on articles. Thanks -- Actown 02:55, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
On basis of what is the interwiki bot policy being made? The policy as it is now makes it impossible to actually run the bot, because it will get all interwikis. Apparently it was created by someone who has not first checked the actual working of the bot. Who was it, where has this been decided, and what can I do to get the policy under discussion again? - Andre Engels 09:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
How about we amend the policy to the following:
If using the pywikipedia framework:
Users who run such bots must prove themselves to be responsible and harmless, and work closely with the community of interwiki bot operators. Users who come from other language Wikipedias must demonstrate some proof of credibility, such as being an Administrator of a major language Wikipedia, Bureacrat, developer for the pywikipedia framework, or being vouched by a credibile user on the English Wikipedia.
Would that be much better? Instead of focusing on whether a user can speak the language, how about focus on whether the user is responsible enough to keep on eye on their bot, and stop their bot if it goes awry. The issue that I want to try to avoid is that an operator of an interwiki bot refuses to stop his or her bot on the basis they believe it is working correctly, when there is evidence that is not. -- AllyUnion (talk) 00:15, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#A cut and paste bot. Who was running this? jni 08:37, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it would be worth having a standardised means of flagging unauthorised bots. How about a template to stick on the user talk page of a suspected bot? It would serve a triple purpose:
-- Smjg 12:04, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
User:DHN-bot - an Interwiki bot to exchange interwiki with the Vietnamese Wikipedia. DHN 22:18, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
What computer language do one uses to create Wikipedia bots? CG 22:35, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
This is a request from my talk page: -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Would it be possible for you to add to sandbot (or some other regularly-run bot) the unconditional deletion of the weather in London? Wikipedia:How to edit a page uses this title as an example of a red link but of course it keeps getting created. -- RHaworth 17:02, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
The answer yes, but requires community approval. -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
This is the text from Wikipedia:How to edit a page:
The weather in London is a page that does not exist yet.
Sorry about my ocnfusion over protecting a page. Will creation of the page show up on a Watchlist. If so, then a bot is hardly necessary (but won't do any harm), if a couple of admins have the page on their watchlists it will get deleted fast enough.-- Commander Keane 05:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
This is a new user who appears to be using some sort of automated or semi-automated spellchecker script, which appears to be systematically violating spelling conventions by switching to the British style. If someone could politely handle this matter, it would be appreciated, as I have little technical knowledge in this area. — MC MasterChef :: Leave a tip — 09:25, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
This bot has been used by its owner Bluemoose ( talk · contribs) to move the 1911 template under the References heading. I disagree with this action, for a number of reasons:
Is there concensus for Bluebot's actions? This particular activity is not cited in the request (above) which is for other valuable stuff. (I have also asked this question on the template's talk page, and will do elsewhere as well.) Noisy | Talk 10:09, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The author is requested to resolve all questions, and problems before the bot is blocked. -- AllyUnion (talk) 13:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
As is pointed out above, Noisy is completely wrong, there is no issue to resolve. I answered Belands question where he asked it, why do you say it was unresolved? Since then I have moved on to do other things with my bot. I have made ~60,000 edits with my bot with no valid compaints and many compliments. I have unblocked my bot now. Martin 14:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Martin 15:50, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Users using bots should be aware that they should make every effort to run their bots off a server, on a separate IP address. Due to changes in dealing with sockpuppets in the MediaWiki software, a block of a user with a bot that runs off the same computer that the user edits, will cause the user unable to edit. -- AllyUnion (talk) 23:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
First, I want to apologise for running a semi-automated edit tool from my own account without even realising that there was a procedure for seeking approval. Someone soon put me right on that one, so I've stopped using it and come here.
I want to run a program that helps me correct common errors in cricket articles by identifying candidate errors for me to consider. I'm not even sure whether this counts as a bot. One proposal earlier on this page suggests to me that some people might not consider it to be a true bot, although I would tend to think of it as one; but let me give you more details.
So far, I've been running it to correct "test" to "Test" (in the sense of Test match, an international cricket match). The bot is written in Perl and it works as follows:
So it doesn't make any edits itself. I run it occasionally, it downloads maybe fifty pages, I make twenty edits myself in the space of a minute or two, and then I wait a few minutes or a few hours before running it again. Have a look at my last 500 contributions for the typical impact.
My ideas for future tasks that this could do
We currently have something over 1500 cricket biographies, and a few hundred other cricket articles, so a program like this is a natural solution to improve conformance to WikiProject Cricket agreed house style.
So my questions are
Thanks very much. I hope that's enough information, but please ask if you need to know anything more.
Stephen Turner 12:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I am requesting that AFD Bot to purge the page cache of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion at 00:01 UTC every day. -- AllyUnion (talk) 21:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I have listed a series of redirects that start with "2005 English cricket season/" here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket#Redirects_that_need_fixing. Do you want a bot to go and remove the pages linking to them, then mark them for speedy deletion? -- AllyUnion (talk) 18:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Kakashi Bot will be used to perform this task.
I had an idea this evening - what about a bot or similar program (perhaps running on a local copy of wikipedia). It would cross reference between articles in different languages, looking for images that are in one, but not another.
Images frequently break the language barrier, and who knows what hidden gems might be found using this methodology? I propose that the results of this program would be put in a Wikipedia namespace page, so that individuals could work on cross-dissemination of images in a decentralized fashion (in the spirit of wikipedia).
A much more aggressive approach (I'm not sure what I think about this) would be to have a bot take this output and tag the bottom of every page for which an image was available in another language.
What do people think? I wouldn't mind providing some of the programming talent for this, but this kind of wikiwide action would need some pretty hefty official support. - JustinWick 01:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)