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I've now been running my interwiki bot ZwoBot since July now, and there have been no serious problems so far. AllyUnion has asked me to request a bot flag for the bot's account, so that it doesn't appear on recentchanges. Does anyone disagree on this issue? -- Head 09:41, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
Please add User:HasharBot on Wikipedia:Bots. Been around for a year. It uses the python wikipedia framework and I use it for interwiki update as well as for solving disambiguations sometime.
Hashar 14:06, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
The purpose of this bot is to notify users on their talk page of an event or reminder, based on whatever they schedule the bot to do so and whatever message they set up with the bot. More details found at User:NotificationBot. -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:15, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to modify Pearle to select articles from categories and add those selections to wiki pages. The first application will be Template:Opentask. As discussed on Template talk:Opentask, I'd like to throw up a selection of articles from four different categories, once every 24 hours or so. (I'm tired of doing it myself.) I will have to embed some HTML comments which the bot will look for so it will know where to insert article lists. -- Beland 09:37, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Kurando-san will automatically archive any WikiProject that has not been edited in the past 6 months, and who's talk page hasn't been edited in the past 2 months. If the talk page doesn't exist, it is assumed as the same thing as a talk page that hasn't been edited in the past 2 months. -- AllyUnion (talk) 22:58, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I'm es:Usuario:Armin76 from spanish wikipedia and I want to get a bot flag for this user to create interwiki links from spanish wikipedia to english wikipedia.
-- KnightRider 16:19, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Is the following text reasonable enough to put on the project page? -- Beland 05:02, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:07, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
I would like to request to be able to add all known species of plant life by scientific and common name to the Wikipedia automatically with a taxobox on each page. I don't have an exact source yet and I don't have any code yet. -- AllyUnion (talk) 08:41, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I think the only list of plants I can add are established and very well known plants whos sciencific name classification hasn't changed since the last past 25-50 years. -- AllyUnion (talk) 19:25, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In addition to this request, I wish to use a bot to automatically correct and add the taxobox to all plant articles. -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:46, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
What is the current status of this proposal? -- Beland 05:11, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Could it be a good idea for someone to create a bot that looks for new users that don't have a userpage set up that edits the userpage by setting up some helpful links that the new user could use to start his/her carrer in Wikipedia? -- Admiral Roo 11:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I finally have cable again, after almost a month after the hurricane. Whobot is running again, until final approval. See original request here. ∞ Who ?¿? 21:33, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
I wanted to inform everyone that Whobot has been running at 10sec intervals, as I had planned to have a bot flag by now. I do not wish to flood RC, but cfd has been backed up, and I've been quite buzy. There are a huge number of naming conventions that have become speedy, and it affects a great deal of categories. Until the bug gets fixed on Meta, bot flags can't be set. If there are any objections, please let me know. ∞ Who ?¿? 10:05, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Interwiki bots should take extra care when doing interwiki links involving Unicode characters larger then U+FFFF. These don't fit into 16-bits, and must be represented by a surrogate pair, see UTF-16.
For example, this edit by FlaBot wrecked the zh: interwiki link for Bohrium. The Chinese character in question is U+28A0F (or &166415;) and looks like 金+波. -- Curps 09:45, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Open proxies have been getting more of a problem again lately, and the blacklisting incorporated into mediawiki isn't making much of a dent in it. Since Wikipedia has been upgraded a while back and the block list now finally scales nicely, I was thinking of resurrecting the preemptive proxy blocker bot. Any comments? -- fvw * 15:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I'm going to start it on blocking the first batch now. I'm going to be behind the computer for the entire run (email me if I don't respond to talk quickly enough, I may just not have loaded any fresh wikipedia pages), but if you see anything you feel is wrong by all means please unblock. -- fvw * 18:53, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm no longer putting time into this one; is there anyone who's willing to take over the job of supporting the blocks (a few emails a week with people who don't understand they're running tor or where there's an open proxy running through their ISP proxy and you need to contact the ISP)? If not I'll get rid of its blocks, which seems a bit of a waste. -- fvw * 02:01, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I want to run a simple bot, to be titled User:PhD-Econobot, for the purpose of disambiguating between the two pages that used to be Native Americans. This requires checking a long series of links, including redirects as well as American Indian and its redirects. My bot would be completely manual and would not be making superrapid edits. Do I need a bot flag? Looking at Wikipedia:Bots, it appears that there are some bots running in a similar fashion that do not require flags. - Nat Kraus e 08:26, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
I would like to request a permission to use KocjoBot on :en. Primary mission will be updating link between :en, :sl, :bs and :hr. So far the bot was running on other 3 WP (with bot-flag) and without problems. Regards, -- KocjoBot 22:12, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't understand your question; I also understand Croat and Bosnian (very similar languages to Slovene). Also, after I posted this request, I was asked by Serbian community to use KocjoBot on :sr; so this bot will be running on :bs, :en, hr:, :sl: and :sr. Because a lot of these WP has foreign iw, but others don't have theirs, so IMHO I think that this Bot is great need to coordinate these WP. Regards, -- Klemen Kocjancic 09:01, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I've alreay bot status on other 4 WP and there were running for some time now (in :sl over 20.000 edits, on others 900+). So far there were no problems with interwikis. Regards, -- Klemen Kocjancic 19:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
OK, I'll run it. Regards, -- Klemen Kocjancic 20:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
The bot recognized such "articles" (minimal text) as non-text and removes it from the list. If you see, what is on the page you'll see. If that is a problem, OK. I've already made modification. About "beyond what it's approved for": I meant that I'll be running bot on 5 WP with fixing IW of all languages, not just these 5. If this is problem, sorry for not making more clear. BTW. I would reply earlier, but Carnildo blocked my IP-address and not just KocjoBot, so I couldn't edit. Regards, -- Klemen Kocjancic 20:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
A question about this bot : he added interwikis to my user page and I want to control the interwikis I put on each user page for personal efficiency use. Has these bot be authorized to do that ? Sebjarod 13:10, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I wish to run a bot which will automatically update the dates and prune unsuccessful nominations on Wikipedia:Collaboration of the week. The bot would likely run daily, using the pywikipediabot framework. I've registered the name CollabBot for this. Talrias ( t | e | c) 12:40, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
The approval given to Chobot (see Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Archive_interwiki#Chobot) covers only links between the English and Korean wikipedias. Recent edits by the bot include interwiki links to other languages, exceeding the bot's approved behavior.
I have left a note on the operator's talk page. User:ChongDae indicates on their user page that they can speak English, Korean, and Japanese. I'm fine with expanding the permission to include these three languages, but our policy requires that we ask them to please not modify interwiki links to any other languages.
Misbehaving bots are subject to blocking on sight by administrators.
-- Beland 01:59, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I was running the bot with autonomous mode. When running in autonomous mode, the bot tries to collect interwiki links and update it. (The bot don't run in en: now.)
When I got the bot permission in en:, The bot could update only the home language wikipedia. At that time to update a link using a bot, I have to run the bot on ko: first; analyze the log of bot; change the language setting to en:; and update a missing links depending on the log. This process is easy to do mistakes and sometimes outdated. (The time difference between running of the bot in ko: and en: can be a week or more.)
The pywikipedia software was updated to allow multiple site simultaneously after July. ( cvs log) So I have been depend on it. Many other bot operators also use it. It is hard to say that the program is perfect, but it works well.
BTW, Is there any renewal procedure for bot's behavior? I want to update it. (for example, permission to generic interwiki bot, image mover to commons:, ...)-- ChongDae 18:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
The pywikipedia framework just assumes that any link to or from en:A is just as good as any other link, and that if fr:B links to en:A, any links to and from fr:B might as well go directly to en:A. Unless there is a conflict, e.g. nl:C links to fr:B and en:D, in which case it asks for manual intervention.
We should be explicit - do we want to establish a policy that all interwiki links must be manually reviewed? Personally, I think an interwiki link to a slightly-off article is better than none at all, and humans can check that sort of thing after the fact.
I think it's important to insist that bots only modify articles in languages the bot operator can understand, to deal with complaints from denizens of that Wikipedia.
But what about links to various other Wikipedias? If we insist on manual review of all interwiki links, then obviously bot operators must speak the target language. (And by doing so we miss out on some of the links suggested by the pywikipedia method.) But with an automated default, what's wrong with bot operators replying to a complaint, "I don't speak German; if you do and you think the link should be changed, go ahead"?
If we insist on manual review (whether while the bot is running or afterwords, by looking at contribs) we have a lot of enforcement to catch up on. If we don't, then we can basically give blanket permission to run any standard interwiki bot based on pywikipedia for anyone that can speak English and who we trust to run a bot. Personally, I'm fine with the latter. Some WikiProject can systematically check interwiki links, if they want, either by following bots around, or in some other fashion. (After all, people make bad interwiki links, too, whether because they don't speak a certain language very well, or because they didn't know that there's a better article to link to.) -- Beland 02:10, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
As for automated image moving to Commons, I would say that any such bot would need to:
Images that have more than one version are somewhat problematic, because several people may have copyright on the image, or maybe the image has been wholly replaced, and only the latest uploader (or maybe only the 2nd and the 4th) have copyright on it. I guess these would have to be done manually. -- Beland 02:22, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | ← | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | → | Archive 15 |
I've now been running my interwiki bot ZwoBot since July now, and there have been no serious problems so far. AllyUnion has asked me to request a bot flag for the bot's account, so that it doesn't appear on recentchanges. Does anyone disagree on this issue? -- Head 09:41, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
Please add User:HasharBot on Wikipedia:Bots. Been around for a year. It uses the python wikipedia framework and I use it for interwiki update as well as for solving disambiguations sometime.
Hashar 14:06, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
The purpose of this bot is to notify users on their talk page of an event or reminder, based on whatever they schedule the bot to do so and whatever message they set up with the bot. More details found at User:NotificationBot. -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:15, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to modify Pearle to select articles from categories and add those selections to wiki pages. The first application will be Template:Opentask. As discussed on Template talk:Opentask, I'd like to throw up a selection of articles from four different categories, once every 24 hours or so. (I'm tired of doing it myself.) I will have to embed some HTML comments which the bot will look for so it will know where to insert article lists. -- Beland 09:37, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Kurando-san will automatically archive any WikiProject that has not been edited in the past 6 months, and who's talk page hasn't been edited in the past 2 months. If the talk page doesn't exist, it is assumed as the same thing as a talk page that hasn't been edited in the past 2 months. -- AllyUnion (talk) 22:58, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I'm es:Usuario:Armin76 from spanish wikipedia and I want to get a bot flag for this user to create interwiki links from spanish wikipedia to english wikipedia.
-- KnightRider 16:19, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Is the following text reasonable enough to put on the project page? -- Beland 05:02, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:07, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
I would like to request to be able to add all known species of plant life by scientific and common name to the Wikipedia automatically with a taxobox on each page. I don't have an exact source yet and I don't have any code yet. -- AllyUnion (talk) 08:41, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I think the only list of plants I can add are established and very well known plants whos sciencific name classification hasn't changed since the last past 25-50 years. -- AllyUnion (talk) 19:25, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In addition to this request, I wish to use a bot to automatically correct and add the taxobox to all plant articles. -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:46, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
What is the current status of this proposal? -- Beland 05:11, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Could it be a good idea for someone to create a bot that looks for new users that don't have a userpage set up that edits the userpage by setting up some helpful links that the new user could use to start his/her carrer in Wikipedia? -- Admiral Roo 11:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I finally have cable again, after almost a month after the hurricane. Whobot is running again, until final approval. See original request here. ∞ Who ?¿? 21:33, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
I wanted to inform everyone that Whobot has been running at 10sec intervals, as I had planned to have a bot flag by now. I do not wish to flood RC, but cfd has been backed up, and I've been quite buzy. There are a huge number of naming conventions that have become speedy, and it affects a great deal of categories. Until the bug gets fixed on Meta, bot flags can't be set. If there are any objections, please let me know. ∞ Who ?¿? 10:05, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Interwiki bots should take extra care when doing interwiki links involving Unicode characters larger then U+FFFF. These don't fit into 16-bits, and must be represented by a surrogate pair, see UTF-16.
For example, this edit by FlaBot wrecked the zh: interwiki link for Bohrium. The Chinese character in question is U+28A0F (or &166415;) and looks like 金+波. -- Curps 09:45, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Open proxies have been getting more of a problem again lately, and the blacklisting incorporated into mediawiki isn't making much of a dent in it. Since Wikipedia has been upgraded a while back and the block list now finally scales nicely, I was thinking of resurrecting the preemptive proxy blocker bot. Any comments? -- fvw * 15:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I'm going to start it on blocking the first batch now. I'm going to be behind the computer for the entire run (email me if I don't respond to talk quickly enough, I may just not have loaded any fresh wikipedia pages), but if you see anything you feel is wrong by all means please unblock. -- fvw * 18:53, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm no longer putting time into this one; is there anyone who's willing to take over the job of supporting the blocks (a few emails a week with people who don't understand they're running tor or where there's an open proxy running through their ISP proxy and you need to contact the ISP)? If not I'll get rid of its blocks, which seems a bit of a waste. -- fvw * 02:01, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I want to run a simple bot, to be titled User:PhD-Econobot, for the purpose of disambiguating between the two pages that used to be Native Americans. This requires checking a long series of links, including redirects as well as American Indian and its redirects. My bot would be completely manual and would not be making superrapid edits. Do I need a bot flag? Looking at Wikipedia:Bots, it appears that there are some bots running in a similar fashion that do not require flags. - Nat Kraus e 08:26, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
I would like to request a permission to use KocjoBot on :en. Primary mission will be updating link between :en, :sl, :bs and :hr. So far the bot was running on other 3 WP (with bot-flag) and without problems. Regards, -- KocjoBot 22:12, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't understand your question; I also understand Croat and Bosnian (very similar languages to Slovene). Also, after I posted this request, I was asked by Serbian community to use KocjoBot on :sr; so this bot will be running on :bs, :en, hr:, :sl: and :sr. Because a lot of these WP has foreign iw, but others don't have theirs, so IMHO I think that this Bot is great need to coordinate these WP. Regards, -- Klemen Kocjancic 09:01, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I've alreay bot status on other 4 WP and there were running for some time now (in :sl over 20.000 edits, on others 900+). So far there were no problems with interwikis. Regards, -- Klemen Kocjancic 19:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
OK, I'll run it. Regards, -- Klemen Kocjancic 20:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
The bot recognized such "articles" (minimal text) as non-text and removes it from the list. If you see, what is on the page you'll see. If that is a problem, OK. I've already made modification. About "beyond what it's approved for": I meant that I'll be running bot on 5 WP with fixing IW of all languages, not just these 5. If this is problem, sorry for not making more clear. BTW. I would reply earlier, but Carnildo blocked my IP-address and not just KocjoBot, so I couldn't edit. Regards, -- Klemen Kocjancic 20:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
A question about this bot : he added interwikis to my user page and I want to control the interwikis I put on each user page for personal efficiency use. Has these bot be authorized to do that ? Sebjarod 13:10, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I wish to run a bot which will automatically update the dates and prune unsuccessful nominations on Wikipedia:Collaboration of the week. The bot would likely run daily, using the pywikipediabot framework. I've registered the name CollabBot for this. Talrias ( t | e | c) 12:40, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
The approval given to Chobot (see Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Archive_interwiki#Chobot) covers only links between the English and Korean wikipedias. Recent edits by the bot include interwiki links to other languages, exceeding the bot's approved behavior.
I have left a note on the operator's talk page. User:ChongDae indicates on their user page that they can speak English, Korean, and Japanese. I'm fine with expanding the permission to include these three languages, but our policy requires that we ask them to please not modify interwiki links to any other languages.
Misbehaving bots are subject to blocking on sight by administrators.
-- Beland 01:59, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I was running the bot with autonomous mode. When running in autonomous mode, the bot tries to collect interwiki links and update it. (The bot don't run in en: now.)
When I got the bot permission in en:, The bot could update only the home language wikipedia. At that time to update a link using a bot, I have to run the bot on ko: first; analyze the log of bot; change the language setting to en:; and update a missing links depending on the log. This process is easy to do mistakes and sometimes outdated. (The time difference between running of the bot in ko: and en: can be a week or more.)
The pywikipedia software was updated to allow multiple site simultaneously after July. ( cvs log) So I have been depend on it. Many other bot operators also use it. It is hard to say that the program is perfect, but it works well.
BTW, Is there any renewal procedure for bot's behavior? I want to update it. (for example, permission to generic interwiki bot, image mover to commons:, ...)-- ChongDae 18:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
The pywikipedia framework just assumes that any link to or from en:A is just as good as any other link, and that if fr:B links to en:A, any links to and from fr:B might as well go directly to en:A. Unless there is a conflict, e.g. nl:C links to fr:B and en:D, in which case it asks for manual intervention.
We should be explicit - do we want to establish a policy that all interwiki links must be manually reviewed? Personally, I think an interwiki link to a slightly-off article is better than none at all, and humans can check that sort of thing after the fact.
I think it's important to insist that bots only modify articles in languages the bot operator can understand, to deal with complaints from denizens of that Wikipedia.
But what about links to various other Wikipedias? If we insist on manual review of all interwiki links, then obviously bot operators must speak the target language. (And by doing so we miss out on some of the links suggested by the pywikipedia method.) But with an automated default, what's wrong with bot operators replying to a complaint, "I don't speak German; if you do and you think the link should be changed, go ahead"?
If we insist on manual review (whether while the bot is running or afterwords, by looking at contribs) we have a lot of enforcement to catch up on. If we don't, then we can basically give blanket permission to run any standard interwiki bot based on pywikipedia for anyone that can speak English and who we trust to run a bot. Personally, I'm fine with the latter. Some WikiProject can systematically check interwiki links, if they want, either by following bots around, or in some other fashion. (After all, people make bad interwiki links, too, whether because they don't speak a certain language very well, or because they didn't know that there's a better article to link to.) -- Beland 02:10, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
As for automated image moving to Commons, I would say that any such bot would need to:
Images that have more than one version are somewhat problematic, because several people may have copyright on the image, or maybe the image has been wholly replaced, and only the latest uploader (or maybe only the 2nd and the 4th) have copyright on it. I guess these would have to be done manually. -- Beland 02:22, 6 October 2005 (UTC)