People are going to accuse us of meatpuppetry if we keep posting the same thing.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 23:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Biglobe News is just a syndicator of that (now dead-link) Japanese article, and its original outlet is a site called
Buzz Plus News, which I'd never heard of before. It looks like a bottom-of-the-barrel content farm and its Twitter account is currently suspended.
Nardog (
talk) 22:51, 31 January 2021 (UTC)reply
It looks like more reliable sources have covered the same content regarding the arrest e.g. Sankei Shimbun 1/19
[3] and
MBS TV 1/22
[4] -- I'll let
Smallbones decide if this needs updating. ☆ Bri (
talk) 00:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Those don't mention Wikipedia though.
Nardog (
talk) 00:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Nothing about that story really bothers me - and since this newspaper is supposed to be a snapshot in tine, I don't see any need to update it.
I see 3 things that this column should do to inform our readers about what is appearing in the media about Wikipedia.
find an article in a good source that says something of interest or different about WP. its not always easy to figure out what a good source is - especially in Japan or in non-English media.
tell the truth about what the story says and try to evaluate it in some way.
figure out if it is relevant to our readers. If not remove it
Each one of these has its risks, so we can fail. We took a good shot at each of the 3 points. But if we don't take risks, the column will be pretty boring. We also learn a lot from the comments! Thanks.
Smallbones(
smalltalk) 00:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Yeah, it's probably better off left alone at this point. The story itself is interesting indeed.
Nardog (
talk) 01:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Nice collection of links. Thank you.
Carrite (
talk) 17:26, 5 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Okay, if someone is interested in a collection of selected Russian links about 20-years of Wikipedia, here are
link 1 and
link 2 (in Russian). There was a lot of stuff. --
ssr (
talk) 06:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Ssr: I was really surprised at this. At first I though you were plagiarizing this column, but then I checked the dates and discovered that I must be plagiarizing you! Well actually most were different publications with similar headlines, either translations I guess, or "as inspired by". Great minds think alike!
Smallbones(
smalltalk) 01:57, 13 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Obligatory: In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia edits YOU!
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 17:54, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Davidwr: I thought the original was from @
Levivich: something like:
In Russia the government watches you edit Wikipedia.
In the US you watch the Russian government edit Wikipedia.
In Soviet Russia, Kremlin reads what you write on Wikipedia. In America, Kremlin writes what you read on Wikipedia.
Levivichharass/hound 02:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Let's be good Wikipedians and wikipedize: "
In Soviet Russia..." =))) --
ssr (
talk) 06:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)reply
People are going to accuse us of meatpuppetry if we keep posting the same thing.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 23:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Biglobe News is just a syndicator of that (now dead-link) Japanese article, and its original outlet is a site called
Buzz Plus News, which I'd never heard of before. It looks like a bottom-of-the-barrel content farm and its Twitter account is currently suspended.
Nardog (
talk) 22:51, 31 January 2021 (UTC)reply
It looks like more reliable sources have covered the same content regarding the arrest e.g. Sankei Shimbun 1/19
[3] and
MBS TV 1/22
[4] -- I'll let
Smallbones decide if this needs updating. ☆ Bri (
talk) 00:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Those don't mention Wikipedia though.
Nardog (
talk) 00:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Nothing about that story really bothers me - and since this newspaper is supposed to be a snapshot in tine, I don't see any need to update it.
I see 3 things that this column should do to inform our readers about what is appearing in the media about Wikipedia.
find an article in a good source that says something of interest or different about WP. its not always easy to figure out what a good source is - especially in Japan or in non-English media.
tell the truth about what the story says and try to evaluate it in some way.
figure out if it is relevant to our readers. If not remove it
Each one of these has its risks, so we can fail. We took a good shot at each of the 3 points. But if we don't take risks, the column will be pretty boring. We also learn a lot from the comments! Thanks.
Smallbones(
smalltalk) 00:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Yeah, it's probably better off left alone at this point. The story itself is interesting indeed.
Nardog (
talk) 01:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Nice collection of links. Thank you.
Carrite (
talk) 17:26, 5 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Okay, if someone is interested in a collection of selected Russian links about 20-years of Wikipedia, here are
link 1 and
link 2 (in Russian). There was a lot of stuff. --
ssr (
talk) 06:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Ssr: I was really surprised at this. At first I though you were plagiarizing this column, but then I checked the dates and discovered that I must be plagiarizing you! Well actually most were different publications with similar headlines, either translations I guess, or "as inspired by". Great minds think alike!
Smallbones(
smalltalk) 01:57, 13 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Obligatory: In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia edits YOU!
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 17:54, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Davidwr: I thought the original was from @
Levivich: something like:
In Russia the government watches you edit Wikipedia.
In the US you watch the Russian government edit Wikipedia.
In Soviet Russia, Kremlin reads what you write on Wikipedia. In America, Kremlin writes what you read on Wikipedia.
Levivichharass/hound 02:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Let's be good Wikipedians and wikipedize: "
In Soviet Russia..." =))) --
ssr (
talk) 06:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)reply