This is an organized place for discussions regarding the List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes' section for "possible F5/EF5/IF5 tornadoes". Each individual tornado has a section for discussions and notes. This page and these discussions began in June 2024 or later. NOTE This page contains a lot of sections. Be aware of that before proceeding.

Doing a quick note here. So I started this page so we, as a community, can formally decide on the guidelines for the possible F5/EF5/IF5 tornadoes first and then after a consensus forms for that, discussing each of the tornadoes. Currently, each tornado has a subsection already made, but I have hidden them until we have a consensus for the chart guidelines first. The Weather Event Writer ( Talk Page) 22:06, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Has this page been abandoned or something? Because only three people including myself have actually replied on here. West Virginia WXeditor ( talk) 17:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Conversing on Wikipedia is by nature slow, and we're waiting for the discussions about individual tornadoes to open up. Nothing can be changed on the List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes subsection without consensus, and reliable consensus can hardly be built with 3 editors. I suppose it'd be wise to call some more editors who could help build consensus and start deliberation; @ CapeVerdeWave, @ MarioProtIV, @ TornadoLGS, @ Sir MemeGod, we would appreciate your contributions to this page and the deliberations to follow. GeorgeMemulous ( talk) 02:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Usually talk pages in obscure corners like this aren't very visible. I didn't even know this page was here until I got pinged to it. TornadoLGS ( talk) 02:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ditto. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 03:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Due to all the dang canvassing accusations I had back in 2023, I was honestly worried about pinging people. I did the standard talk page notifications (F5/EF5 talk page & WP:Weather's talk page), but besides that, there wasn't much else I was going to do. I will send out full alerts to all WP:Weather editors via their individual talk pages in the morning. The Weather Event Writer ( Talk Page) 03:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Okay, you're all good. I'm glad you made me aware of this page though so I can give my own input in here. Thanks! Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 03:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

You should thank GeorgeMemulous for that. I think he’s the one who pinged everyone. West Virginia WXeditor ( talk) 14:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Before beginning the process of assessing each tornado, the current consensus/directions for the charts is as follows:

1. The tornado was previously rated F5/EF5/IF5 or has been rated F5/EF5/IF5 by another scientist (preferably an academic publication)
2. The tornado caused damage assessed to be "possibly" F5/EF5/IF5. Potentially, a rating of F5/EF5/IF5 was considered
3. The tornado was assessed to "possibly" be F5/EF5/IF5 intensity. Statements of possible F5/EF5/IF5 intensity may come from mobile radar measurements.

Guideline consensus (Result:)

Do you support the above guidelines for the charts?

• Support – Yes, I support the above guidelines. A direct statement of either a rating of F5/EF5/IF5, possible F5/EF5/IF5 damage, including tornadoes where the rating was considered, and a direct statement of possible F5/EF5/IF5 (with "F5", "EF5", or "IF5" directly quoted) intensity. I do support those criteria. The Weather Event Writer ( Talk Page) 22:06, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support – As per WeatherWriter’s rationale. But it must mention F5, EF5, IF5, or an equivalent thereof (in the sense of having possibly been at said intensity). West Virginia WXeditor ( talk) 18:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  I would like to add that if it mentions T-10 or T-11 on the TORRO scale, or an EF/JEF-5 on the Canadian/Japanese EF-scale, it should also be included. West Virginia WXeditor ( talk) 02:52, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  Why is it that only me, WeatherWriter, and GeorgeMemulous reply on this thread?? West Virginia WXeditor ( talk) 17:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support per all above - if tornadoes are known to have F5/IF5/EF5 intensity and it's not explicitly mentioned, however, I do believe there should be some validation process so that it's not instantly written off, perhaps verification online from experts via Twitter or public statements by request. As well, e-mails may come into debate, as a previous editor mentioned Perrysville 2017 as potentially producing EF5 damage (halted by NWS Paducah staff disagreements on the rating), and as the only source was an e-mail it may not stand on its own but should further be researched. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeMemulous ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support per all above messages (mainly GeorgeMemulous's statement). Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 02:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply