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So...related to Flying Tigers: Shadows Over China and the AfD, there are multiple websites with questionable reliability. Posting here for a clearer consensus on whether any of these sources should be used. Xbox Addict seems to consist of two people right now [1], Generacion and TrueAchievements don't even have staff pages. Tavern has a staff page here [2] and XboxHub here [3]. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
I feel that these have gotten a bit ragged and it should be noted that they have limitations and don't represent the extent of either type of sources listed on this page. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 02:19, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi guys. I have discovered a new old source called Computer Entertainer magazine, including from the dinosaur days of video gaming when there were almost no industry magazines, and video game reviews were often done in newspapers! It ran from at least 1981 to 1990 I think. That's the range of scans that are said to be archived at archive.org. The only problem with that recent archive is that it hasn't been archived properly with inline page-flipping and OCR search yet, but rather as a couple of huge PDFs to download and scroll through. A quicker glance of a few articles is seen at this site.
Until then, I'm creating new citations for each issue but reusing that same url like this:
<ref name="Computer Entertainer July 1985">{{cite magazine | magazine=Computer Entertainer | title=Computer Entertainer | date=July 1985 | volume=4 | issue=4 | url=https://archive.org/download/ComputerEntertainer/ | accessdate=July 2, 2019}}</ref>
I have recently cited the magazine in my recent major expansion of
the NES launch and
R.O.B., which you can find if you search those articles for "computer entertainer". You'll see other modern sources I added about the NES launch.
Computer Entertainer has major, broad, competent coverage of the entire home computing and video gaming industry. Every issue I've seen has at least one page each on Atari, Apple II, Macintosh, Commodore 64, console games, and others. It has thorough individual software reviews with a rating system. Very notably and uniquely, they attend CES with aggressive coverage including rumors and preannouncements, so we can better sort out the murky facts such as the different NES launch libraries in test markets and in nationwide full launch. Their writing tone is professional and sometimes also touched by the fanatical, passionate, and humorous—like when they welcomed the launch of Computer Entertainment magazine which seemingly aped their name.
So I wanted to let you all know about this wonderful source, the recent article expansions, and ask experienced vetters if we can add it as a VGRS which I assume is a certainty. What other magazines cover the 1980s crash era, especially the NES launch? There's the Japanese Beep! which covered some AVS and NES but isnt in English and there's this Video Game History Foundation archive of NES launch. Thank you. — Smuckola (talk) 09:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
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This has previously been discussed in May 2016. Back then, there appeared to be a broad consensus (as they'd only recently been formed) it was worth waiting to see how things panned out. Lack of a website (reviews were only published on YouTube) was also listed as a concern. Since then, the publication has been included as a member of the game critics voting jury for The Game Awards, [1] the E3 Game Critics Awards, [2] and has been listed by OpenCritic as their Most Trusted Publication. [3] These demonstrate that the publication has gained a reputation as a reliable source within the industry. The publication now also has a website, to which full review texts (alongside a review score) are published, which mitigates the previous concerns regarding it being a YouTube-only publication. On this basis, I think Easy Allies should be considered reliable instead of situational. Domeditrix ( talk) 13:55, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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Bringing this from discussion at Template talk:Video game reviews. For those who are unaware, MobyGames now has weighted review aggregation separate from its user-generated scores. This could potentially be useful if no GameRankings or Metacritic score exists. For instance, Knuckles' Chaotix has no score on GR or MC, but it does on Moby ( [4]). JOE BRO 64 20:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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Gamest was a long-running Japanese magazine that covered arcade games, notably those by Sega, Namco, Konami, Capcom and SNK. They've also done interviews with development teams and given out awards for games. Began in 1986 and abruptly stopped around 1999 when the publishing company went bankrupt — most of the writers for Gamest would then go to Enterbrain and create Monthly Arcadia, which as far as I know still continues. Lots of old Gamest issues are present on the Internet Archive, so I think it would be helpful for sourcing more obscure arcade games. I'd say both of these are perfectly fine to use as sources, but I want to hear other's opinions on it first. Namcokid47 ( talk) 17:45, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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Part of IBT Media and formerly a sister site to Newsweek. [5] EIC profile can be found here; he was formerly an editor for Newsweek and IGN. Lordtobi ( ✉) 21:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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I think there are notable smartphone video games out there but it's becoming harder to verify or to improve them because we're not allowed to use certain sources dedicated to their coverage. I think we are asking for a lot from them based on editorial or review policy. Some of that information may not be readily available to the public. And I've never seen someone question IGN or GameSpot's policies or staff. I find this relevant because a former IGN reviewer was caught plagiarizing. And this wasn't that long ago. These sites also existed for a long time and policies may have been updated and changed.
I do think it has some merit that AppSpy and 148Apps are endorsed by the same parent company, Steel Media, and some of the key staff of Pocket Gamer are credited as editors. AppSpy has good decent coverage on their staff, but 148Apps is incomplete and only has the current ones. But even though they dont have a complete list readily available, the older reviewers are still credited and accessible. Unlike IGN where their older content is listed as just "IGN Staff".
Also, Pocket Gamer features content from both sites. [6] [7]. (hopefully i dont look like a total idiot) Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 08:15, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
And if an editorial policy would be present, we would consider it reliable? Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 21:27, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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The staff is here [8], and review system here [9]. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 08:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
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Also known as just "Inside Gaming". There was a previous discussion before about this source here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources/Archive 10#A few sites for Sonic X, a current FAC which i believe provided great evidence for it to being at least being reliable situationally. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 22:03, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
From the peanut gallery. I don't think it does a very thorough job but alas, if you're interested in reading something in-between a critique and a report, I just happened upon this and haven't seen it posted before. czar 20:21, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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Relatively new website authored by seasoned journalists (including Escapist Magazine, The Verge, and Destructoid) and industry specialists. Has a high emphasis on business analyses. Lordtobi ( ✉) 17:50, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
I think that this website should be reconsidered as a source for CS:GO (I am the person who drafted HLTV, just as a disclaimer). It's by far the most used CS:GO website for news. They are also very often the only source which still exists of news dating back to the 2000s. As for their writers, they are paid to write, and not contributors from the form. One of the, MIRAA, was a part of the Esports Hall of Fame nomination board, which consists of trusted people from the community such as Paul Chaloner and Richard Lewis (journalist).
As for the actual content of the news, they almost always report uncontroversial facts. Many of the articles cited by users on Wikipedia are news articles talking about a match result, something which can't really by lied about. Their ranking is used by some tournament organisers, and CS:GO analysts consider them to be the "official rankings." This doesn't have much to do with their whether or not their news is trustworthy, but they are trusted by Valve as the matches on HLTV are integrated into the official CS:GO game. Lxxl ( talk) 04:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
I want to suggest that Shmuplations be considered a situational source - that is, one that can be used if direct Japanese magazine sources are not accessible. I feel that the owner has demonstrated the ability to read and translate Japanese adequately, and has demonstrated access as well. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 17:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
This was brought up in an earlier disucssion by KGRAMR, so I became a bit curious and decided to look at it. Neo Geo Freak was a popular Japanese magazine from the mid-1990's that focused on Neo Geo games and other SNK hardware, featuring interviews and other developer info that would be really useful for articles. Lasted from 1995 to 2000, although there was a short revival in 2005. Many of the writers are from Gamest and its successor magazine Monthly Arcadia, and some of them would later leave to write for both of those magazines. Like Gamest, many issues are available on the Wayback Machine. I'd definitely consider this to be reliable, although I am interested to hear other's opinions on it. Namcokid47 ( talk) 23:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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I am considering reviewing
First generation of video game consoles for GA. I am pinging
Crimsonfox, the nominator, to let them know that. I checked some of the sources to assess their quality, and one of them, Gamester81, caught my attention. I have never heard of the website or the person running it, so I am already skeptical of the website's credibility. The reference in the Wikipedia article links
here, and I found no evidence of ethics, credentials, etc., either by clicking on
About or on the name of that article's
author. I say the source is unquestionably unreliable.
Gamingforfun
365
18:08, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
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Nours was an old Japanese gaming magazine published by Namco that began in 1993. Covered many of Namco's arcade and home console games, commonly having developer interviews and other useful information that I think can be used for articles. Was renamed to B-Nours in 2005, later to Side-B and then Side-BN following the formation of Namco Bandai Games. Became Side-876 sometime in the late 2010's, and continues to this day. Almost every issue of the magazine is on Bandai Namco's official Japanese website], so finding issues will be easy. I'd say this is a good primary source, and would be great to use for stuff like release dates and development info. Namcokid47 ( talk) 03:27, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Just wanted to throw up a few sources that I think are good. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 02:18, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "GameDaily.biz" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
A successor site to GameDaily (a reliable source) launched in 2018 by Greenlit Content. Key staff includes editor-at-large James Brightman, who also founded the old GameDaily and was the editor-in-chief of GamesIndustry.biz, another reliable source. Lordtobi ( ✉) 18:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
There is a request for comment on the reliability of VG Chartz. If you are interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § RfC: VG Chartz. — Newslinger talk 02:52, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Hive4media.com(renamed later to home media retailing) Website formerly operated by Video Store Magazine. It's there online version. Covered primarily the home entertainment industry but also news related to games. Some examples [13], [14], [15] , [16] John Gaudios of Shacknews, The Holywood Reporter, CNN, Variety, Entertainment Weekly etc covered the news there. Among others. Can this be added&listed as Defunct websites that also covered games at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources ? Timur9008 ( talk) 12:52, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
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Website established in 2004 that focuses on video game history, alongside reviews for arcade and console games. They've been referenced by a plethora of reliable sources, including
1UP.com (they've even listed Racketboy as part of the 101 Favorite Game Sites list),
Ars Technica,
Game Informer,
GamePro,
Joystiq,
Kotaku and
Wired. Doesn't appear that user-generated content is present either. Seems okay to me.
Namcokid
47
(Contribs)
14:37, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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Website and YouTube channel that focuses on development and facts related to video games. They claim to have been featured in multiple press outlets such as Huffington Post, MCV, Game Informer, MTV, Nerdist, IGN, Gamespot and the Houston Press. The issue I have is that their website and YouTube channel are entirely based on user-submitted content, which leads to a lot of their content having false or misinformed information in it (such as how Space Invaders caused a coin shortage or how the creator of Pac-Man left Namco in disgust over his paycheck). Really no editorial staff, either. I think this site is unreliable. Namcokid 47 (Contribs) 13:35, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
Any reason why the composer biographies aren't considered reliable? I'm just curious. JOE BRO 64 20:00, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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I had brought this up back in 2017 but little discussion. As the site is now somewhat in the news (around the Hearthstone ban over Hong Kong protests), it reminds me we haven't decided on this. The site's major coverage are video games and esports in SE Asia. It has an editorial team [17] and frequently used by our other RSes for interviews for non-English speaking players in esports. -- Masem ( t) 22:22, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
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Seems like a fan website. Has a review system [18] and staff list [19], but nothing indicates that this is a reliable source to use for. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 22:25, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
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This is a blog owned and written by Erik Voskuil, documenting toys, video games and other products made by Nintendo prior to the release of Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros. and the Family Computer. While blogs are usually considered unreliable, this one I think has some merit as his work has been featured in publications such as GamestTM, Kotaku, Retro Gamer, N-Zone and Nintendo Dream magazine. Eric has also published the book Before Mario and has contributed to the books Nintendo Complete Guide - Toys, Gunpei Yokoi - Vie et philosophie du dieu des jouets Nintendo and The History of Nintendo Vol. 1. The blog itself is also pretty well-written and contains a treasure-trove of Nintendo-related information, much of which isn't documented anywhere else online as far as I can tell. This is a great resource if you ask me and I do think it has some reliability to it, but I'd like to hear what others think of this. Namcokid 47 (Contribs) 17:11, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Indie Game Reviewer" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo Currently used in a GA Ancient Trader, doesn't seem reliable at all. From what I can see, there is no staff page at all, just an "about" one [20]. Had an article deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indie Game Reviewer. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 21:28, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
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Website that seems to mostly focus on Pokémon related news. The website seems to have been featured in two reliable sources currently (as far as I can find), one from USgamer and one from Polygon, with the former being an interview with the site's owner and the latter a simple reference to it. The interview specifies the website as a "one-man operation" and from looking at the website I can't seem to find any kind of editorial oversight. I'd also say that one reference from a RS isn't really enough to make this a reliable source, so I'd want to say that this website is unreliable.
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Potentially reliable, it has it's own article on it:Multiplayer.it, seems to be up since 1999. There is a staff page [21], but no editorial policy. It seems to also give coverage to mobile games, which is needed in a lack of such sources in the recent times (mostly relying on Pocket Gamer/Touch Arcade/Gamezebo). Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 16:59, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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This is a very old gaming magazine, thus, a reliable source for califications at Metacritic. -- Amitie 10g ( talk) 14:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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I see Nintenderos as a reliable source, and I seen several califications from they at Metacritic. -- Amitie 10g ( talk) 14:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Yet another Nintendo-specislized gaming website. I see this as a reliable source, as Metacritic considered them in their califications. -- Amitie 10g ( talk) 14:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Another old gaming-specialized website, and a reliable source. -- Amitie 10g ( talk) 14:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Considering both sources' reliability is questioned in an AfD ongoing now, it's the best action to start a discussion for both.
4Players is a German online website that exists since 2000, now owned by Computec. Staff list is on [22], and currently included in Template: Video game reviews.
es:Meristation is a Spanish website that exists since 1997, and a part of a newspaper Diario AS. Staff list is on [23]. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 14:51, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
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Website that seems to focus on Nintendo related news. As far as I can find, the website has been mentioned in one reliable source so far, from Nintendo Life. Looking at the website, I am unable to find any mention about editorial oversight. There are several people working on the website, with one full-time writer who has been working in the video game industry as a writer for eleven years, as per the We need your support page. I am unable to find who those other people are or what they do or if they have any kind of experience in journalism. They also mentioned financial issues on that page, so I'm assuming the people working for that website aren't paid. Because of these reasons, I think this website is unreliable. Stefvanschie ( talk) 16:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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So...related to Flying Tigers: Shadows Over China and the AfD, there are multiple websites with questionable reliability. Posting here for a clearer consensus on whether any of these sources should be used. Xbox Addict seems to consist of two people right now [1], Generacion and TrueAchievements don't even have staff pages. Tavern has a staff page here [2] and XboxHub here [3]. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
I feel that these have gotten a bit ragged and it should be noted that they have limitations and don't represent the extent of either type of sources listed on this page. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 02:19, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi guys. I have discovered a new old source called Computer Entertainer magazine, including from the dinosaur days of video gaming when there were almost no industry magazines, and video game reviews were often done in newspapers! It ran from at least 1981 to 1990 I think. That's the range of scans that are said to be archived at archive.org. The only problem with that recent archive is that it hasn't been archived properly with inline page-flipping and OCR search yet, but rather as a couple of huge PDFs to download and scroll through. A quicker glance of a few articles is seen at this site.
Until then, I'm creating new citations for each issue but reusing that same url like this:
<ref name="Computer Entertainer July 1985">{{cite magazine | magazine=Computer Entertainer | title=Computer Entertainer | date=July 1985 | volume=4 | issue=4 | url=https://archive.org/download/ComputerEntertainer/ | accessdate=July 2, 2019}}</ref>
I have recently cited the magazine in my recent major expansion of
the NES launch and
R.O.B., which you can find if you search those articles for "computer entertainer". You'll see other modern sources I added about the NES launch.
Computer Entertainer has major, broad, competent coverage of the entire home computing and video gaming industry. Every issue I've seen has at least one page each on Atari, Apple II, Macintosh, Commodore 64, console games, and others. It has thorough individual software reviews with a rating system. Very notably and uniquely, they attend CES with aggressive coverage including rumors and preannouncements, so we can better sort out the murky facts such as the different NES launch libraries in test markets and in nationwide full launch. Their writing tone is professional and sometimes also touched by the fanatical, passionate, and humorous—like when they welcomed the launch of Computer Entertainment magazine which seemingly aped their name.
So I wanted to let you all know about this wonderful source, the recent article expansions, and ask experienced vetters if we can add it as a VGRS which I assume is a certainty. What other magazines cover the 1980s crash era, especially the NES launch? There's the Japanese Beep! which covered some AVS and NES but isnt in English and there's this Video Game History Foundation archive of NES launch. Thank you. — Smuckola (talk) 09:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
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This has previously been discussed in May 2016. Back then, there appeared to be a broad consensus (as they'd only recently been formed) it was worth waiting to see how things panned out. Lack of a website (reviews were only published on YouTube) was also listed as a concern. Since then, the publication has been included as a member of the game critics voting jury for The Game Awards, [1] the E3 Game Critics Awards, [2] and has been listed by OpenCritic as their Most Trusted Publication. [3] These demonstrate that the publication has gained a reputation as a reliable source within the industry. The publication now also has a website, to which full review texts (alongside a review score) are published, which mitigates the previous concerns regarding it being a YouTube-only publication. On this basis, I think Easy Allies should be considered reliable instead of situational. Domeditrix ( talk) 13:55, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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Bringing this from discussion at Template talk:Video game reviews. For those who are unaware, MobyGames now has weighted review aggregation separate from its user-generated scores. This could potentially be useful if no GameRankings or Metacritic score exists. For instance, Knuckles' Chaotix has no score on GR or MC, but it does on Moby ( [4]). JOE BRO 64 20:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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Gamest was a long-running Japanese magazine that covered arcade games, notably those by Sega, Namco, Konami, Capcom and SNK. They've also done interviews with development teams and given out awards for games. Began in 1986 and abruptly stopped around 1999 when the publishing company went bankrupt — most of the writers for Gamest would then go to Enterbrain and create Monthly Arcadia, which as far as I know still continues. Lots of old Gamest issues are present on the Internet Archive, so I think it would be helpful for sourcing more obscure arcade games. I'd say both of these are perfectly fine to use as sources, but I want to hear other's opinions on it first. Namcokid47 ( talk) 17:45, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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Part of IBT Media and formerly a sister site to Newsweek. [5] EIC profile can be found here; he was formerly an editor for Newsweek and IGN. Lordtobi ( ✉) 21:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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I think there are notable smartphone video games out there but it's becoming harder to verify or to improve them because we're not allowed to use certain sources dedicated to their coverage. I think we are asking for a lot from them based on editorial or review policy. Some of that information may not be readily available to the public. And I've never seen someone question IGN or GameSpot's policies or staff. I find this relevant because a former IGN reviewer was caught plagiarizing. And this wasn't that long ago. These sites also existed for a long time and policies may have been updated and changed.
I do think it has some merit that AppSpy and 148Apps are endorsed by the same parent company, Steel Media, and some of the key staff of Pocket Gamer are credited as editors. AppSpy has good decent coverage on their staff, but 148Apps is incomplete and only has the current ones. But even though they dont have a complete list readily available, the older reviewers are still credited and accessible. Unlike IGN where their older content is listed as just "IGN Staff".
Also, Pocket Gamer features content from both sites. [6] [7]. (hopefully i dont look like a total idiot) Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 08:15, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
And if an editorial policy would be present, we would consider it reliable? Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 21:27, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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The staff is here [8], and review system here [9]. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 08:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
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Also known as just "Inside Gaming". There was a previous discussion before about this source here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources/Archive 10#A few sites for Sonic X, a current FAC which i believe provided great evidence for it to being at least being reliable situationally. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 22:03, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
From the peanut gallery. I don't think it does a very thorough job but alas, if you're interested in reading something in-between a critique and a report, I just happened upon this and haven't seen it posted before. czar 20:21, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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Relatively new website authored by seasoned journalists (including Escapist Magazine, The Verge, and Destructoid) and industry specialists. Has a high emphasis on business analyses. Lordtobi ( ✉) 17:50, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
I think that this website should be reconsidered as a source for CS:GO (I am the person who drafted HLTV, just as a disclaimer). It's by far the most used CS:GO website for news. They are also very often the only source which still exists of news dating back to the 2000s. As for their writers, they are paid to write, and not contributors from the form. One of the, MIRAA, was a part of the Esports Hall of Fame nomination board, which consists of trusted people from the community such as Paul Chaloner and Richard Lewis (journalist).
As for the actual content of the news, they almost always report uncontroversial facts. Many of the articles cited by users on Wikipedia are news articles talking about a match result, something which can't really by lied about. Their ranking is used by some tournament organisers, and CS:GO analysts consider them to be the "official rankings." This doesn't have much to do with their whether or not their news is trustworthy, but they are trusted by Valve as the matches on HLTV are integrated into the official CS:GO game. Lxxl ( talk) 04:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
I want to suggest that Shmuplations be considered a situational source - that is, one that can be used if direct Japanese magazine sources are not accessible. I feel that the owner has demonstrated the ability to read and translate Japanese adequately, and has demonstrated access as well. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 17:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
This was brought up in an earlier disucssion by KGRAMR, so I became a bit curious and decided to look at it. Neo Geo Freak was a popular Japanese magazine from the mid-1990's that focused on Neo Geo games and other SNK hardware, featuring interviews and other developer info that would be really useful for articles. Lasted from 1995 to 2000, although there was a short revival in 2005. Many of the writers are from Gamest and its successor magazine Monthly Arcadia, and some of them would later leave to write for both of those magazines. Like Gamest, many issues are available on the Wayback Machine. I'd definitely consider this to be reliable, although I am interested to hear other's opinions on it. Namcokid47 ( talk) 23:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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I am considering reviewing
First generation of video game consoles for GA. I am pinging
Crimsonfox, the nominator, to let them know that. I checked some of the sources to assess their quality, and one of them, Gamester81, caught my attention. I have never heard of the website or the person running it, so I am already skeptical of the website's credibility. The reference in the Wikipedia article links
here, and I found no evidence of ethics, credentials, etc., either by clicking on
About or on the name of that article's
author. I say the source is unquestionably unreliable.
Gamingforfun
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Nours was an old Japanese gaming magazine published by Namco that began in 1993. Covered many of Namco's arcade and home console games, commonly having developer interviews and other useful information that I think can be used for articles. Was renamed to B-Nours in 2005, later to Side-B and then Side-BN following the formation of Namco Bandai Games. Became Side-876 sometime in the late 2010's, and continues to this day. Almost every issue of the magazine is on Bandai Namco's official Japanese website], so finding issues will be easy. I'd say this is a good primary source, and would be great to use for stuff like release dates and development info. Namcokid47 ( talk) 03:27, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Just wanted to throw up a few sources that I think are good. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 02:18, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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A successor site to GameDaily (a reliable source) launched in 2018 by Greenlit Content. Key staff includes editor-at-large James Brightman, who also founded the old GameDaily and was the editor-in-chief of GamesIndustry.biz, another reliable source. Lordtobi ( ✉) 18:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
There is a request for comment on the reliability of VG Chartz. If you are interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § RfC: VG Chartz. — Newslinger talk 02:52, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Hive4media.com(renamed later to home media retailing) Website formerly operated by Video Store Magazine. It's there online version. Covered primarily the home entertainment industry but also news related to games. Some examples [13], [14], [15] , [16] John Gaudios of Shacknews, The Holywood Reporter, CNN, Variety, Entertainment Weekly etc covered the news there. Among others. Can this be added&listed as Defunct websites that also covered games at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources ? Timur9008 ( talk) 12:52, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
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Website established in 2004 that focuses on video game history, alongside reviews for arcade and console games. They've been referenced by a plethora of reliable sources, including
1UP.com (they've even listed Racketboy as part of the 101 Favorite Game Sites list),
Ars Technica,
Game Informer,
GamePro,
Joystiq,
Kotaku and
Wired. Doesn't appear that user-generated content is present either. Seems okay to me.
Namcokid
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(Contribs)
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Website and YouTube channel that focuses on development and facts related to video games. They claim to have been featured in multiple press outlets such as Huffington Post, MCV, Game Informer, MTV, Nerdist, IGN, Gamespot and the Houston Press. The issue I have is that their website and YouTube channel are entirely based on user-submitted content, which leads to a lot of their content having false or misinformed information in it (such as how Space Invaders caused a coin shortage or how the creator of Pac-Man left Namco in disgust over his paycheck). Really no editorial staff, either. I think this site is unreliable. Namcokid 47 (Contribs) 13:35, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
Any reason why the composer biographies aren't considered reliable? I'm just curious. JOE BRO 64 20:00, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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I had brought this up back in 2017 but little discussion. As the site is now somewhat in the news (around the Hearthstone ban over Hong Kong protests), it reminds me we haven't decided on this. The site's major coverage are video games and esports in SE Asia. It has an editorial team [17] and frequently used by our other RSes for interviews for non-English speaking players in esports. -- Masem ( t) 22:22, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
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Seems like a fan website. Has a review system [18] and staff list [19], but nothing indicates that this is a reliable source to use for. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 22:25, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
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This is a blog owned and written by Erik Voskuil, documenting toys, video games and other products made by Nintendo prior to the release of Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros. and the Family Computer. While blogs are usually considered unreliable, this one I think has some merit as his work has been featured in publications such as GamestTM, Kotaku, Retro Gamer, N-Zone and Nintendo Dream magazine. Eric has also published the book Before Mario and has contributed to the books Nintendo Complete Guide - Toys, Gunpei Yokoi - Vie et philosophie du dieu des jouets Nintendo and The History of Nintendo Vol. 1. The blog itself is also pretty well-written and contains a treasure-trove of Nintendo-related information, much of which isn't documented anywhere else online as far as I can tell. This is a great resource if you ask me and I do think it has some reliability to it, but I'd like to hear what others think of this. Namcokid 47 (Contribs) 17:11, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
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Website that seems to mostly focus on Pokémon related news. The website seems to have been featured in two reliable sources currently (as far as I can find), one from USgamer and one from Polygon, with the former being an interview with the site's owner and the latter a simple reference to it. The interview specifies the website as a "one-man operation" and from looking at the website I can't seem to find any kind of editorial oversight. I'd also say that one reference from a RS isn't really enough to make this a reliable source, so I'd want to say that this website is unreliable.
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Potentially reliable, it has it's own article on it:Multiplayer.it, seems to be up since 1999. There is a staff page [21], but no editorial policy. It seems to also give coverage to mobile games, which is needed in a lack of such sources in the recent times (mostly relying on Pocket Gamer/Touch Arcade/Gamezebo). Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 16:59, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
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This is a very old gaming magazine, thus, a reliable source for califications at Metacritic. -- Amitie 10g ( talk) 14:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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I see Nintenderos as a reliable source, and I seen several califications from they at Metacritic. -- Amitie 10g ( talk) 14:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Yet another Nintendo-specislized gaming website. I see this as a reliable source, as Metacritic considered them in their califications. -- Amitie 10g ( talk) 14:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Another old gaming-specialized website, and a reliable source. -- Amitie 10g ( talk) 14:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Considering both sources' reliability is questioned in an AfD ongoing now, it's the best action to start a discussion for both.
4Players is a German online website that exists since 2000, now owned by Computec. Staff list is on [22], and currently included in Template: Video game reviews.
es:Meristation is a Spanish website that exists since 1997, and a part of a newspaper Diario AS. Staff list is on [23]. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 14:51, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
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Website that seems to focus on Nintendo related news. As far as I can find, the website has been mentioned in one reliable source so far, from Nintendo Life. Looking at the website, I am unable to find any mention about editorial oversight. There are several people working on the website, with one full-time writer who has been working in the video game industry as a writer for eleven years, as per the We need your support page. I am unable to find who those other people are or what they do or if they have any kind of experience in journalism. They also mentioned financial issues on that page, so I'm assuming the people working for that website aren't paid. Because of these reasons, I think this website is unreliable. Stefvanschie ( talk) 16:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)